Afternoon all Anyone with a Matlock interest would be pleased with a new book just released by Glynn Waite called The Matlock Cable Tramway. Lots of terrific photos, well researched, lovely quality. Really enjoyed reading it. Not been paid for this! No relation to Glynn! Peter Sent from my iPhone

Uk Whitepages is free at http://www.thephonebook.bt.com Hope this helps, but may not be up to date for recent move. Bob.

Hi Connie - I was more interested in picking up a copy at a local store or ordering through Amazon, or some other source on this side of the pond. I googled it on Amazon and it is not showing up on their site, neither on our Canadian book distributor. I will go to my local store and give them the ISBN number and see if they can order it. I could order through the publisher by credit card, and will resort to that if I have to. Thanks for the tip though, Anne -----Original Message----- From: Connie Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 1:46 PM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DBY] Matlock tramway ANNE wrote: > Is this only available through the publisher? How do overseas residents > obtain a copy? Hallo I found this site by using a search engine. It tells you how to order and pay for a book. One option is Paypal. You don't need to have a Paypal account There are details on how to contact the author and buy through him. http://nicwhe8.freehostia.com/pynot/railway/matlock/matlock.html Connie in London ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is this only available through the publisher? How do overseas residents obtain a copy? Thanks Anne in Hamilton -----Original Message----- From: Peter Patilla Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 10:39 AM To: Derbyshire Derbysgen Subject: [DBY] Matlock tramway Afternoon all Anyone with a Matlock interest would be pleased with a new book just released by Glynn Waite called The Matlock Cable Tramway. Lots of terrific photos, well researched, lovely quality. Really enjoyed reading it. Not been paid for this! No relation to Glynn! Peter Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi - try the bt phone book online - its free to search - see link below or search bt phone book online - if they are in it you might be lucky   http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/publisha.content/en/search/residential/search.publisha   Sue ________________________________ From: Jane Taylor <janetaylor21@ntlworld.com> To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 9 December 2012, 9:46 Subject: Re: [DBY] UK addresses (non gen) Chances are they will have paid to have their post redirected by the post office and also the new occupants will probably have a forwarding address. Hope that is of some help. Jane in Redcar -----Original Message----- From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Annette Watson Sent: 09 December 2012 00:06 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY] UK addresses (non gen) Hi everyone, I have a problem - my girlfriend and her husband in Hampshire have moved during the past few months - she sent me a new address and for what ever reason I cannot find it - I need to send her Christmas Calendar - I have checked 192.com, but one has to pay a subscription which I don't want to do for one address.    In Australia it is free to check names, addresses and phone numbers on whitepages - is there some way I can do this for UK without having to pay a subscription?.  I do know they have only moved about two miles from their previous home. Many thanks for any suggestions, happy hunting Annette WATSON Lismore Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com/ Version: 2013.0.2793 / Virus Database: 2634/5946 - Release Date: 12/08/12 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi everyone, I have a problem - my girlfriend and her husband in Hampshire have moved during the past few months - she sent me a new address and for what ever reason I cannot find it - I need to send her Christmas Calendar - I have checked 192.com, but one has to pay a subscription which I don't want to do for one address. In Australia it is free to check names, addresses and phone numbers on whitepages - is there some way I can do this for UK without having to pay a subscription?. I do know they have only moved about two miles from their previous home. Many thanks for any suggestions, happy hunting Annette WATSON Lismore Australia

Annette Watson wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have a problem - my girlfriend and her husband in Hampshire have moved > during the past few months - she sent me a new address and for what ever > reason I cannot find it - I need to send her Christmas Calendar - I have > checked 192.com, but one has to pay a subscription which I don't want to > do for one address. In Australia it is free to check names, addresses and > phone numbers on whitepages - is there some way I can do this for UK > without having to pay a subscription?. I do know they have only moved about > two miles from their previous home. It is free to check in the actual phone book but they would not yet be in there but the books are only published once a year. Directory enquiries won't give out a number unless you know the address. They don't give out the address at all. The other place would be the electoral roll but they would not be in there yet either. Unless all the rules have changed, of course. If your friend has chosen to be ex-directory and in the edited version of the electoral roll, their address won't be available. The only other options I can think of would be to contact their local paper and ask them to help or to send a card to their old address with "Please Forward" on the envelope and a note in the card asking for their address again or wait until you get a card from your friends. We have to put a return address on all mail going overseas, even if it is just the post code and house number. If anyone can help Annette at all, please do so *offlist*. I had a call from a long standing friend last night who'd managed to lose my address. Fortunately he had my number in his phone. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Chances are they will have paid to have their post redirected by the post office and also the new occupants will probably have a forwarding address. Hope that is of some help. Jane in Redcar -----Original Message----- From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Annette Watson Sent: 09 December 2012 00:06 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY] UK addresses (non gen) Hi everyone, I have a problem - my girlfriend and her husband in Hampshire have moved during the past few months - she sent me a new address and for what ever reason I cannot find it - I need to send her Christmas Calendar - I have checked 192.com, but one has to pay a subscription which I don't want to do for one address. In Australia it is free to check names, addresses and phone numbers on whitepages - is there some way I can do this for UK without having to pay a subscription?. I do know they have only moved about two miles from their previous home. Many thanks for any suggestions, happy hunting Annette WATSON Lismore Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2793 / Virus Database: 2634/5946 - Release Date: 12/08/12

IN the UK, most people pay for a mail redirection service for up to a year to allow all mail to catch up with a move so I suggest you just send it the their old address and it will probably find them. They are also likely to have left forwarding address labels with the new occupants if they are organised! Any directory you look at, and not sure which are free, would be unlikely to have been updated in the time they have moved. Good luck. Meg in Devon Message: 5 Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 11:06:09 +1100 From: Annette Watson <annete@aapt.net.au> Subject: [DBY] UK addresses (non gen) To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <6d3846$292vrq@icp-osb-irony-out3.iinet.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi everyone, I have a problem - my girlfriend and her husband in Hampshire have moved during the past few months - she sent me a new address and for what ever reason I cannot find it - I need to send her Christmas Calendar - I have checked 192.com, but one has to pay a subscription which I don't want to do for one address. In Australia it is free to check names, addresses and phone numbers on whitepages - is there some way I can do this for UK without having to pay a subscription?. I do know they have only moved about two miles from their previous home. Many thanks for any suggestions, happy hunting Annette WATSON Lismore Australia ------------------------------ To contact the DERBYSGEN list administrator, send an email to DERBYSGEN-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the DERBYSGEN mailing list, send an email to DERBYSGEN@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of DERBYSGEN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 480 *****************************************

Bob Butler wrote: > Family stories say that he was a farmer so possibly wealthy enough to buy > headstones - but then we all know not to trust family stories. Hallo I have an ancestor whose father was given as a farmer. The father was an ag lab but farmer sounds better when you're marrying the daughter of a well to do banker. The banker was anything but as well. Connie in London

Connie Family stories say that he was a farmer so possibly wealthy enough to buy headstones - but then we all know not to trust family stories. Thanks Bob -----Original Message----- From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Connie Sent: 08 December 2012 18:20 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DBY] Henry GRANGER Ticknall Bob Butler wrote: > I did have a look around the church graveyard but could not find any > headstones. Hallo Headstones were expensive items. Not every family could afford them. Connie in London ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bob Butler wrote: > I did have a look around the church graveyard but could not find any > headstones. Hallo Headstones were expensive items. Not every family could afford them. Connie in London

Thanks Sue, I have done a search in the Notts FHS database and there is no Henry in the likely period that I would imagine he would have been born. There are a few Grangers but not in the Sutton area. There is a family story that the Grangers were originally Huguenots from France but there is no evidence to support this. I know that William Granger (Henry's son) was buried at Ticknall on 31st Jan 1755 - just a few months before Henry - but not of any others. I haven't been able to find anything about Henry's wife Mary after his death - she would have been quite young then so probably remarried - especially as she had children aged 10, 4 and 1 to care for. Any information about the Grangers in Ticknall that you can provide would be appreciated. I did have a look around the church graveyard but could not find any headstones. Thanks again for your kind interest. Bob -----Original Message----- From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Brown Sent: 08 December 2012 16:23 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DBY] DERBYSGEN Digest, Henry GRANGER Ticknall > Hi Bob, There's nothing in the Ticknall settlement certificates, removal orders and settlement examinations for him either. Might he have come from the Sutton in Ashfield area if he married there, perhaps he was working in Ticknall and married a girl back near where he came from. His is the only Granger family in Ticknall. Do you have the details of the two children buried at Ticknall as well? If not I can supply. Sue > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 20:34:04 -0000 > From: "Bob Butler" <bob.butler@sky.com> > Subject: [DBY] Henry GRANGER Ticknall > To: <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00bd01cdd4ba$3379d380$9a6d7a80$@sky.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii" > > Following Nirvard's recent posting about his Ticknall family I have > been prompted to enquire if anyone can help with my wife's 5 x gt > grandfather Henry GRANGER. > > > > I have his burial in Ticknall on 8th June 1755 - his marriage to Mary > Slaney in Sutton in Ashfield, Notts gives his parish as Ticknall (4th > Oct 1742) - the baptism of 4 children in Ticknall - John 1745, William > 1747 (burial Ticknall 1755), Ann 1751, Francis 1754 > > > > I cannot find his baptism in or near Ticknall - can anyone help please? > > > > Many thanks in advance > > > > Bob > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Very many thanks Sue That does make me feel more comfortable that its the right parents and family I will see if I can find anything else on them Much appreciated Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 08/12/2012 16:12, Sue Brown wrote: > Hi Nivard, > > No problem, the marriage gives Joseph Cook, bachelor and Elizabeth > Boulstridge, spinster, both of this parish, banns, witnesses > Elizabeth Cook and William Cook, all four make their marks. > > Cheers, Sue >

Afternoon all In my research on WW1 men & women of Crich & Lea Mills I came across the bombing of Derby in 1916. I found it fascinating so have added an article on www.crichparish.co.uk (go to latest additions on home page if interested) I particularly like the following report Derby Daily Telegraph 16 February, 1916 THE MIDLANDS ZEPPELIN RAID INQUEST ON ANOTHER VICTIM “MURDER" AGAINST THE KAISER AND CROWN PRINCE JURY DECLINE TO ALTER VERDICT An inquest on a victim of the recent Zeppelin raid over the Midland counties who had died in hospital was held today. Deceased, a domestic servant, was walking with her sweetheart along a towing path when a bomb dropped near them, killing the man out right and severely injuring the girl. The jury found that death resulted from a bomb thrown from an enemy airship, and returned a verdict of “Wilful murder" against the Kaiser and Crown Prince as accessories before the fact. The Coroner remarked that there was no method of service against the Kaiser or Crown Prince, nor was it possible to take proceedings against them. The foreman of the jury enquired whether the verdict would not have weight at the end of the war. The Coroner replied he could hold out no hope, and suggested that the jury should reconsider their verdict. The Foreman said the jury were absolutely unanimous that the German Emperor and his son were guilty of murder, and declined to alter their verdict which the Coroner then recorded. Peter

> Hi Bob, There's nothing in the Ticknall settlement certificates, removal orders and settlement examinations for him either. Might he have come from the Sutton in Ashfield area if he married there, perhaps he was working in Ticknall and married a girl back near where he came from. His is the only Granger family in Ticknall. Do you have the details of the two children buried at Ticknall as well? If not I can supply. Sue > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 20:34:04 -0000 > From: "Bob Butler" <bob.butler@sky.com> > Subject: [DBY] Henry GRANGER Ticknall > To: <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00bd01cdd4ba$3379d380$9a6d7a80$@sky.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii" > > Following Nirvard's recent posting about his Ticknall family I have been > prompted to enquire if anyone can help with my wife's 5 x gt grandfather > Henry GRANGER. > > > > I have his burial in Ticknall on 8th June 1755 - his marriage to Mary Slaney > in Sutton in Ashfield, Notts gives his parish as Ticknall (4th Oct 1742) - > the baptism of 4 children in Ticknall - John 1745, William 1747 (burial > Ticknall 1755), Ann 1751, Francis 1754 > > > > I cannot find his baptism in or near Ticknall - can anyone help please? > > > > Many thanks in advance > > > > Bob > > > >

Hi Nivard, No problem, the marriage gives Joseph Cook, bachelor and Elizabeth Boulstridge, spinster, both of this parish, banns, witnesses Elizabeth Cook and William Cook, all four make their marks. Cheers, Sue >Message: 5 >Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 19:28:42 +0000 >From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> >Subject: Re: [DBY] DERBYSGEN Digest,  Joseph COOK - Ticknall circa >    1793 >To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <50C0F1EA.7010100@sky.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >Hi Sue > >Very much appreciate the help > >Particularly the burial as that does put a fresh twist on it, there is >certainly scope for another Joseph but it would have been good to find a >baptism for him > >All the birth years suggest 1791 or later which does tie in to a second >Joseph > >I will see if I can find any more on the children you mention > >George appears to survive but moved away from Ticknall as did Joseph > >I found a Wm COOK as a tenant in Ticknall in 1798 along with a Thomas COOK > >Would you by any chance have the detail of the marriage? > >JOSEPH COOK >Spouse:  ELIZABETH BOULSTRIDGE  Family >Marriage:  26 JUN 1815   Ticknall, Derby, England >M059001  1806 - 1812  0428946   Film  6903270   Film >M059001  1813 - 1837  0498136   Film  6903270   Film > >I know its unlikely to add much if anything but just wondered in case >the witnesses are related > >Thanks for the help, it is appreciated > >Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >On 06/12/2012 08:29, Sue Brown wrote: >> >> >> Hello Nivard, >> >> There is only one baptism of a Joseph Cook in Ticknall at around that >> time so you appear to have the right one, but there is a burial on >> the 20th May 1790 for Joseph son of William & Ann Cook, pauper. It is >> possible that the parents had another child called Joseph after >> Joseph died, there is a gap between the last 2 children from >> 1791-1797. The children are listed below. although Ticknall PRs seem >> pretty complete, there are baptisms that are known to be missing, not >> that that is much help here of course. >> >> William & Ann Cook had the following children: Ann bap 19 Feb 1775 >> when they were living on Derby Hills just outside the village Jane 11 >> May 1777 William 8 April 1781 George 11 Jan 1784 John 16 July 1786 >> Elizabeth 3 May 1789 and buried March 30th 1790 pauper Joseph son of >> William & Ann, baptised 9 May 1790, pauper, buried 20 May 1790 >> another Elizabeth 2 Oct 1791 pau[per] Mary 28 May 1797. >> >> William Cook married Ann Pemberton of Ravenstone Leics 7 Feb 1774 at >> Ticknall. >> >> Sue > > >       

Hi 'geners, now to Shardlow. SHARDLOW BURIALS 1847 1 Jan 1847 Elizabeth Soar BODEL Shardlow 17 7 Mar 1847 Thomas GILL Shardlow 30 27 Mar 1847 Hannah BATTERSBY Shardlow 86 11 Apr 1847 Benjamin HANDLEY Shardlow 25 2 May 1847 James HOUGH Shardlow Union Workhouse 55 31 May 1847 Robert DAYKN Shardlow 62 7 Jul 1847 Anne BAMFORD Shardlow 18 10 Jul 1847 William GRAHAM Shardlow 76 13 Jul 1847 Samuel THOMPSON Shardlow 39 26 Jul 1847 William GILL Derby Infirmary 32 19 Sep 1847 Charles ROBINSON Shardlow 9 7 Nov 1847 Mary CLAYTON Shardlow 47 28 Nov 1847 Hannah CLARKE Shardlow 64 10 Dec 1847 Emma COWLISHAW Shardlow 17m mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Morning 'geners, Mellor for a couple of months.Why not, all in a good cause you rebel. MELLOR BURIALS 1877 Jan-Feb 7 Jan 1877 James Dean son of William and Mary Ann FRANCE 3m 16 Jan 1877 James WILD Thornsett 60 17 Jan 1877 John MIDDLETON Cheadle in Cheshire 76 morning funeral 25 Jan 1877 James HARDMAN Holly-head in Mellor 62 30 Jan 1877 Francis BENNET Holly Wood End Mellor 52 1 Feb 1877 Matthew son of Jesse and Ellen Elizabeth WILD Oldham Lancs 7 Feb 1877 Aaron HURST Marple Ches 25 19 Feb 1877 John BUCKLEY Whitlefield 69 anyone know why "morning funeral" was significant enough to mention ? mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi 'geners, to Morton MORTON BURIALS 1896 8 Oct 1896 George Holmes COWLEY Morton 80 18 Oct 1896 James SALES or SAYLES Morton died Mickleover Asylum 33 2 Nov 1896 George Henry THOMPSON Morton 28 29 Nov 1896 John SWAIN Morton 52 20 Dec 1896 Ernest BURNHAM Morton 23 30 Dec 1896 William George DUNN Morton 1 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm