Hi 'geners, more from Stanton by Dale. STANTON BY DALE BURIALS 1857 16 Feb 1857 Thomas CARTER Stanton 88 24 Feb 1857 William HALL (HULL?) Stanton by Dale 73 1 Mar 1857 Mary CHADWICK Stanton 75 2 Mar 1857 Ellen RUSHTON Nottingham 20 10 Apr 1857 John STAFFORD Stanton by Dale 78 12 May 1857 Sarah HIGGETT Stanton by Dale 15 21 May 1857 James MEAKIN Stanton 61 29 May 1857 Richard DILKS Sandiacre 8 9 Jun 1857 Harriet SEALS Risley 2 16 Jun 1857 Anne SEALS Risley 3m 8 Aug 1857 Elizabeth MEAKIN Stanton 64 18 Aug 1857 Hannah WOOD Melbourne 35 8 Sep 1857 Walter SHIPLEY Stanton 15 12 Sep 1857 John MEE Stanton 28 20 Sep 1857 Mary STAFFORD Derby 62 13 Oct 1857 Anne BARBER Stanton inf 15 Oct 1857 Sarah ADAMS Stanton 49 17 Dec 1857 Elizabeth FREARSON Stanton 86 23 Dec 1857 Joseph CHADWICK Stanton 54 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi 'geners, now to Sby B STANTON BY BRIDGE BURIALS 1873-1875 1 Apr 1873 Mary WHITAKER Kings Newton 76 12 Apr 1873 Thomas Henry WHITAKER Beddgelert 47 3 Apr 1874 Mary Elizabeth ROULSTON Stanton by Bridge 54 3 Mar 1875 Charles MURFIN Stanton by Bridge 82 3 Sep 1875 Henry GRAINGER Stanton by Bridge 85 10 Nov 1875 William Thomas SHARPE Stanton by Bridge 25 13 Dec 1875 Alice POXEN Stanton by Bridge died in Mickleover Asylum 85 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi list, to Smalley SMALLEY BURIALS 1841 1 Jan 1841 Mary MARTIN Smalley 71 18 Apr 1841 Jesse RATCLIFF Smalley inf 30 Jul 1841 Dorothy TURTON second wife of Job TURTON nee RAYNOR ,Aunt to George RAYNOR Smalley Green Farm 77 9 Aug 1841 Robert ABBOTT Shipley 19 22 Aug 1841 William REDGATE Loscoe 6 18 Dec 1841 Mary LIGGET Smalley 82 22 Dec 1841 Charles WALKER Shipley 39 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Many of us have had ancestors who, for one reason or another, found themselves in the Workhouse, an institution held in horror into the 20th century. In February 2013 a new book (A Grim Almanac of the Workhouse) is out which contains "365 incredible tales of fires, drownings, explosions and disasters, [and] infamous scandals such as the Andover affair". It sounds like it could offer an interesting insight into conditions in many workhouses but probably not suitable for bed time reading! Full details: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/Bookshop/details.aspx?titleId=2943 -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Afternoon all I have a brick wall on one of my Lea Mills men serving in WW1 In the Directors' Parcel Book there is an entry for Sam Atkins Pte 61990 D Coy 4th Res Hampshires. Bally Ruila(?) Ireland (no date or other info) Other than this I cannot find Sam in local census nor in military records on Ancestry. I cannot find where Bally Ruila is either (although hand written it seems clear; have also tried Bally Kuila) Would like him to be more than this brief entry. Would like to know what the Hampshires were doing in Ireland, where is Bally Ruila(?) and where he is hiding in the census. Little hope of finding him in military records. I do know he must have worked at Lea Mills or for the Marsden-Smedley family owners I hope a brighter soul than I can find out a little more Peter

Steve Thanks for that information and I may try to trace some more details re the Zeppelin after Xmas. Aileen On 10/12/2012 19:14, Ilkeston History wrote: > Aileen > > This may have been the January 1916 Midlands Zeppelin Raid. A large number > of the airships took off and raided this area including Hallam Fields and > the Stanton Iron Works. You should be able to track down some info on this > event at local library level i.e. newspapers etc. > > Steve > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2634/5449 - Release Date: 12/10/12 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

more Tissington TISSINGTON BURIALS 1866 22 Jan 1866 Anne HARDY Tissington 86 15 May 1866 John Allcock BOWLER Wood Eaves 14m 31 May 1866 Richard HOLLAND New Close Clifton 75 18 Jun 1866 Mary BUXTON Alsop en le Dale 82 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi 'geners, these from Wingerworth WINGERWORTH BURIALS 1849 16 Mar 1849 Elizabeth REVELL Wingerworth 76 5 May 1849 William GRATTON Timberland par North Wingfield 38 13 Jun 1849 George HARTLEY Wingerworth 1y 10m 11 Nov 1849 Isaac ISITT?(smudge) Wingerworth 7 25 Nov 1849 Sarah SMITH Wingerworth 19 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hil ist, to Tissington. TISSINGTON BURIALS 1859-1860 10 Dec 1859 Thomas REYNOLDS coachman Tissington 79 21 Dec 1859 Sarah ALLSOP Tissington 78 2 Jan 1860 Hannah WOODHOUSE Clifton 77 12 Feb 1860 female child Tissington 3 wks 27 May 1860 Job BULLOCK Tissington 46 30 Sep 1860 James SMITH Ashbourne 4 hours baptised by the Doctor 2 Oct 1860 John ALLSOP Tissington Parish clerk 85 2 Dec 1860 Joseph TWIGG Tissington 27 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Aileen This may have been the January 1916 Midlands Zeppelin Raid. A large number of the airships took off and raided this area including Hallam Fields and the Stanton Iron Works. You should be able to track down some info on this event at local library level i.e. newspapers etc. Steve -----Original Message----- From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Aileen Howard Sent: 10 December 2012 18:27 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DBY] Zeppelin Raid on Derby 1916 Hi there My mother was born in 1911 and I remember her telling me that she saw a Zeppelin passing over their house in Pinxton, Derbyshire, when she was a child. I wonder if the one she saw was the one which bombed Derby, as she would have been five years old at that time. Mum died in 2003, aged almost 92 years, so she is not around to ask. Regards to all, Aileen H ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2634/5449 - Release Date: 12/10/12

Hi there My mother was born in 1911 and I remember her telling me that she saw a Zeppelin passing over their house in Pinxton, Derbyshire, when she was a child. I wonder if the one she saw was the one which bombed Derby, as she would have been five years old at that time. Mum died in 2003, aged almost 92 years, so she is not around to ask. Regards to all, Aileen H

Hi, To all the people who replied to my request - thankyou - unfortunately I have not had any success, I am assuming that my friend's new address is not yet in the phone directory. Will send it to their old address and hope that it will forwarded on, many thanks, happy hunting, Annette

Glynn Waite wrote: > There is no reason why copies can't be ordered via bookshops in the UK. > However, it is possible that at the present time Nielsen haven't publicised > the ISBN (I have put it in a search engine and got a nil reply) - perhaps > the reason why the London bookshop believes that it has been privately > published? Hallo It wasn't your book I'd tried to buy. It was one that had been privately published. Thank you for clarifying things. It's nice to see you taking the time to do so. Connie in London

Sue, Many thanks for this information - it certainly opens up my search avenues. I have come across the name Sheavyn / Shevin in my research but at this point cannot place where - I do not have the name in the tree as it stands but may have seen it either in census or parish records. As the family then moved up the road to Stanton by Bridge it may have been there. Were my Mary's 1806 burial and the1758 / 1760 baptisms for Augustine & Mary's daughters also in Ticknall? I have found the Elizabeth - John Purslem marriage on Family Search so it could be worth doing a comparison of Henry and Elizabeth baptisms on that site to see if I can find a common area / parentage. This has certainly given me a new route to follow on a subject which I had considered a brick wall - thanks again. Best regards Bob -----Original Message----- From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Brown Sent: 09 December 2012 19:33 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DBY] DERBYSGEN Digest,Henry GRANGER Ticknall Hi Bob, I have the following burial besides Henry & William - Ann daughter of Henry Granger deceased & Mary his then wife, 30 June 1768. Mary Granger married on the 30th April 1758 to Augustine (Austin) Sheavyn, both of Ticknall, at Ticknall, by banns. I didn't realise it until I looked but there was an earlier Granger marriage - Elizabeth Granger married John Purslom, both of Ticknall, 18 April 1731 at Calke, by banns. Austin Shevin was buried 17 Dec 1780 at Ticknall, he was evidently a widower when he married Mary Granger as there was a Mary wife of Augustin Shevin buried 13 Feb 1757 at Ticknall. Mary herself seems to have been buried 19 Oct 1806 as a widow. Augustine & his first wife had Mary bap 16 Mar 1732/3, Ann bap 1 Mar 1737/8, Rachel bap 7 Dec 1740 and Catherine bap 13 June 1744. Augustine and Mary (Granger) had Hannah bap 22 Aug 1758, buried 16 Dec 1759 and Sarah bap 18 Nov 1760. Hope that helps a little. Just remembered, there is no gravestone to any of these in Ticknall churchyard, not a surviving one anyway. Cheers, Sue   > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 18:13:15 -0000 > From: "Bob Butler" <bob.butler@sky.com> > Subject: Re: [DBY] DERBYSGEN Digest, Henry GRANGER Ticknall > To: "'Sue Brown'" <suegorickbrown@yahoo.co.uk>, >     <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000d01cdd56f$b240f4e0$16c2dea0$@sky.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thanks Sue, > > I have done a search in the Notts FHS database and there is no Henry > in the likely period that I would imagine he would have been born.  > There are a few Grangers but not in the Sutton area. > > There is a family story that the Grangers were originally Huguenots > from France but there is no evidence to support this. > > I know that William Granger (Henry's son) was buried at Ticknall on > 31st Jan > 1755 - just a few months before Henry - but not of any others. > I haven't been able to find anything about Henry's wife Mary after his > death > - she would have been quite young then so probably remarried - > especially as she had children aged 10, 4 and 1 to care for. > Any information about the Grangers in Ticknall  that you can provide > would be appreciated. > I did have a look around the church graveyard but could not find any > headstones. > > Thanks again for your kind interest. > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Sue Brown > Sent: 08 December 2012 16:23 > To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DBY] DERBYSGEN Digest, Henry GRANGER Ticknall > > > >> Hi Bob, > There's nothing in the Ticknall settlement certificates, removal > orders and settlement examinations for him either. Might he have come > from the Sutton in Ashfield area if he married there, perhaps he was > working in Ticknall and married a girl back near where he came from. > His is the only Granger family in Ticknall. > Do you have the details of the two children buried at Ticknall as > well? If not I can supply. > Sue > >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 20:34:04 -0000 >> From: "Bob Butler" <bob.butler@sky.com> >> Subject: [DBY] Henry GRANGER Ticknall >> To: <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <00bd01cdd4ba$3379d380$9a6d7a80$@sky.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="us-ascii" >> >> Following Nirvard's recent posting about his Ticknall family I have >> been prompted to enquire if anyone can help with my wife's 5 x gt >> grandfather Henry GRANGER. >> >> >> >> I have his burial in Ticknall on 8th June 1755 - his marriage to >> Mary Slaney in Sutton in Ashfield, Notts gives his parish as >> Ticknall (4th Oct 1742) - the baptism of 4 children in Ticknall - >> John 1745, William >> 1747 (burial Ticknall 1755), Ann 1751, Francis 1754 >> >> >> >> I cannot find his baptism in or near Ticknall - can anyone help please? >> >> >> >> Many thanks in advance >> >> >> >> Bob >> >> >> >>   > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to Peter for mentioning the book - it is relevant to this group as it does include quite a bit of information about people. I hadn't intended joining this discussion, but in view of previous e-mails I think I had better explain the circumstances (I have had direct correspondence with Anne by the way). The book has only just been published. Copies were received from the printer on 27th November and it was registered with Nielsen on 1st December. The publisher's website is http://www.pynotpublishing.co.uk/ However, I have paid for the books to the printed (or will do by the end of the month) and, of course, have also paid Nick (the publisher) for the production. I deal with most of the sales via bookshops, as well as certain direct sales, although this only involves cheques. Nick deals with internet sales via his website, passing the money to me less a percentage; sometimes he deals with the postage, sometimes he asks me to attend to it. The UK postage cost is shown on the website; overseas costs can be advised if requested. There is no reason why copies can't be ordered via bookshops in the UK. However, it is possible that at the present time Nielsen haven't publicised the ISBN (I have put it in a search engine and got a nil reply) - perhaps the reason why the London bookshop believes that it has been privately published? So far as Amazon is concerned I do have to say that while the book is new and I have my initial outlay to recover, I have no intention of accepting any reduced price orders from that source. At the present time, copies of the book are available at various outlets in and around Matlock. Otherwise, it can be obtained from me direct or via the Pynot Publishing website. Another source is the Bill Hudson Transport Books website Apologies for getting involved in this correspondence as the author, but I think that in view of previous e-mails it was best to clarify the situation. Regards, Glynn On 9/12/12 20:18, "Connie" <connie.sparrer@gmail.com> wrote: > Hallo > > I tried to buy a book through a local bookshop. They said they > couldn't because it was privately published. It wasn't policy or > something. > > "Matlock Tramway" is a very new book. May be that is why it isn't on > Amazon. > > Connie in London >

ANNE wrote: > Hi Connie - I was more interested in picking up a copy at a local store or > ordering through Amazon, or some other source on this side of the pond. I > googled it on Amazon and it is not showing up on their site, neither on our > Canadian book distributor. I will go to my local store and give them the > ISBN number and see if they can order it. Hallo I tried to buy a book through a local bookshop. They said they couldn't because it was privately published. It wasn't policy or something. "Matlock Tramway" is a very new book. May be that is why it isn't on Amazon. Connie in London

Hi Bob, I have the following burial besides Henry & William - Ann daughter of Henry Granger deceased & Mary his then wife, 30 June 1768. Mary Granger married on the 30th April 1758 to Augustine (Austin) Sheavyn, both of Ticknall, at Ticknall, by banns. I didn't realise it until I looked but there was an earlier Granger marriage - Elizabeth Granger married John Purslom, both of Ticknall, 18 April 1731 at Calke, by banns. Austin Shevin was buried 17 Dec 1780 at Ticknall, he was evidently a widower when he married Mary Granger as there was a Mary wife of Augustin Shevin buried 13 Feb 1757 at Ticknall. Mary herself seems to have been buried 19 Oct 1806 as a widow. Augustine & his first wife had Mary bap 16 Mar 1732/3, Ann bap 1 Mar 1737/8, Rachel bap 7 Dec 1740 and Catherine bap 13 June 1744. Augustine and Mary (Granger) had Hannah bap 22 Aug 1758, buried 16 Dec 1759 and Sarah bap 18 Nov 1760. Hope that helps a little. Just remembered, there is no gravestone to any of these in Ticknall churchyard, not a surviving one anyway. Cheers, Sue   > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 18:13:15 -0000 > From: "Bob Butler" <bob.butler@sky.com> > Subject: Re: [DBY] DERBYSGEN Digest, Henry GRANGER Ticknall > To: "'Sue Brown'" <suegorickbrown@yahoo.co.uk>, >     <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000d01cdd56f$b240f4e0$16c2dea0$@sky.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thanks Sue, > > I have done a search in the Notts FHS database and there is no Henry in the > likely period that I would imagine he would have been born.  There are a few > Grangers but not in the Sutton area. > > There is a family story that the Grangers were originally Huguenots from > France but there is no evidence to support this. > > I know that William Granger (Henry's son) was buried at Ticknall on 31st Jan > 1755 - just a few months before Henry - but not of any others. > I haven't been able to find anything about Henry's wife Mary after his > death > - she would have been quite young then so probably remarried - especially as > she had children aged 10, 4 and 1 to care for. > Any information about the Grangers in Ticknall  that you can provide would > be appreciated. > I did have a look around the church graveyard but could not find any > headstones. > > Thanks again for your kind interest. > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Sue Brown > Sent: 08 December 2012 16:23 > To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DBY] DERBYSGEN Digest, Henry GRANGER Ticknall > > > >> Hi Bob, > There's nothing in the Ticknall settlement certificates, removal orders and > settlement examinations for him either. Might he have come from the Sutton > in Ashfield area if he married there, perhaps he was working in Ticknall and > married a girl back near where he came from. His is the only Granger family > in Ticknall. > Do you have the details of the two children buried at Ticknall as well? If > not I can supply. > Sue > >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 20:34:04 -0000 >> From: "Bob Butler" <bob.butler@sky.com> >> Subject: [DBY] Henry GRANGER Ticknall >> To: <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <00bd01cdd4ba$3379d380$9a6d7a80$@sky.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="us-ascii" >> >> Following Nirvard's recent posting about his Ticknall family I have >> been prompted to enquire if anyone can help with my wife's 5 x gt >> grandfather Henry GRANGER. >> >> >> >> I have his burial in Ticknall on 8th June 1755 - his marriage to Mary >> Slaney in Sutton in Ashfield, Notts gives his parish as Ticknall (4th >> Oct 1742) - the baptism of 4 children in Ticknall - John 1745, William >> 1747 (burial Ticknall 1755), Ann 1751, Francis 1754 >> >> >> >> I cannot find his baptism in or near Ticknall - can anyone help please? >> >> >> >> Many thanks in advance >> >> >> >> Bob >> >> >> >>   > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >

ANNE wrote: > Is this only available through the publisher? How do overseas residents > obtain a copy? Hallo I found this site by using a search engine. It tells you how to order and pay for a book. One option is Paypal. You don't need to have a Paypal account There are details on how to contact the author and buy through him. http://nicwhe8.freehostia.com/pynot/railway/matlock/matlock.html Connie in London

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: FFHS-NEWS RAF Museum to digitise thousands of World War I archive records for 1914-18 centenary Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 03:35:35 -0500 (EST) From: News from the Federation of Family History Societies Culture24 have announced that the RAF Museum is to digitise thousands of World War I archive records for 1914-18 centenary. The Hendon-based museum has received £64,000 from the Esmee Fairbairn Collections Fund to digitise, preserve and provide public access to around 300,000 First World War personnel records as part of a new permanent exhibition exploring the 1914-18 conflict. For more information visit: <www.culture24.org.uk/history%20%26%20heritage/war%20%26%20conflict/world%20war%20one/art411457> or http://bit.ly/VmKbxC if the above breaks Beryl Evans FFHS Archives Liaison Officer -------- Original Message ends -------- -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Thanks for this, Peter, which I've just ordered. I look forward to receiving it. Kind regards Joy > From: ppatilla@me.com > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 15:39:09 +0000 > To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DBY] Matlock tramway > > Afternoon all > Anyone with a Matlock interest would be pleased with a new book just released by Glynn Waite called The Matlock Cable Tramway. Lots of terrific photos, well researched, lovely quality. Really enjoyed reading it. > Not been paid for this! No relation to Glynn! > Peter > > Sent from my iPhone > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message