Welcome back June, I hope we can do some more Sawley & Smedley research Regards Darryl Sydney, Australia

Maureen Allen wrote: > Perhaps he divorced Hannah and went out to Buenos Aries and married > Eliza. The saga continues! Divorce was an expensive business at that time so rather unlikely, unless he took a "poor man's divorce". -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Mavis I have been looking up various items on the internet and come across something that you put on the Crich Strays. Where did you get this information from? Looks like maybe my Matthew Cope. Perhaps he divorced Hannah and went out to Buenos Aries and married Eliza. The saga continues! Maureen 28/5/1858 Cope, Eliza 21½ Critch, Derbyshire Married woman Cancer of the womb Buenos Aries J Chubb Ford Possible husband – Matthew Cope died 23/2/1891 aged 55, engineer (England) at Buenos Aries (submitted by Mavis Johnson) On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:27 AM, MAVIS JOHNSON <mayjaysomerset@btinternet.com> wrote: > Maureen, > > Have you considered that he might have been working on the canals or > waterways network? > > I have found some 'lost' ancestors this way - they did not stop necessarily > for census enumerators - who would not necessarily search out individual > boats moored along rivers/canals or even doing the coastal routes. > > The fact that he was an iron turner also suggests links to Butterley > Ironworks or similar? > > Do put your discoveries on the List > > Regards > Mavis > > From: Maureen Allen <allen_maureen1@sky.com> > To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2013, 9:14 > Subject: [DBY] Matthew COPE > > Thanks for all the replies to my query. Barbara and Louise I will > continue to try and find something in the navy records if I can. > > Maureen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Everyone, I'm Trying to locate to see if this is William Bradbury's first marriage or 2nd any help or suggestions would be appreciated.. County Derbyshire Place Mickleover Church All Saints RegisterNumber MarriageDate 29 Jan 1733 GroomForename William GroomSurname BRADBURY BrideForename Elizabeth BrideSurname ASHMORE FileNumber 30540 Thanks, Christine

I've had this query in the back of my mind but have deleted the emails. However, I just wondered if the description of "naval engineer" could equally well apply to a non-military naval career, perhaps in a shipyard. I believe that "naval architect" applies to somebody that designs ships, not just warships. good luck, Peter -----Original Message----- From: Maureen Allen Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 9:14 AM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY] Matthew COPE Thanks for all the replies to my query. Barbara and Louise I will continue to try and find something in the navy records if I can. Maureen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello MarjorieThank you very much for looking up SARAH ANN GREAVES in Glossop for me. I will continue to concentrate on Oldham/Ashton under Lyne.Regards Pat > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 11:24:38 -0000 > From: "Marjorie Ward" <marjorie.ward2@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [DBY] BRINGING HOME THE LOST & STRAYED > To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com > > Hello Pat > > Sarah Ann GREAVES appears not to have been baptised at Glossop - in fact > there are no GREAVES in that time period. > > best wishes > > Marjorie Ward > Derbyshire, UK

Thanks for all the replies to my query. Barbara and Louise I will continue to try and find something in the navy records if I can. Maureen

Hi list, to Ashbourne. ASHBOURNE ST OSWALD BURIALS 1832 Jun-Dec 1 Jun 1832 Richard BRADBURY Church St 42 20 Jun 1832 William BAGNOLD St John Street 25 29 Jun 1832 Martha SHORE Church St 72 29 Jun 1832 Richard BARKER Clifton 32 22 Jul 1832 Henry THACKER Sutton's Yard 68 27 Jul 1832 John DERBYSHIRE Below the Church 43 2 Aug 1832 Mary DERBYSHIRE Kniveton 75 15 Aug 1832 John WARD Dig St 50 8 Sep 1832 Sarah RIDDLESDEN Rocester 47 10 Sep 1832 an Irishman Compton no age given 2 Nov 1832 John CANTRELL Sturston 50 6 Nov 1832 Mary ROOSE Dig St 18 14 Nov 1832 Henry HOLLIS Sturston Lane 80 17 Nov 1832 Timothy BRANDRETH ? Alms Houses Church Yard 75 17 Nov 1832 Hannah HURD Derby 30 17 Nov 1832 Sarah BRADLEY Show ? Banks 60 22 Nov 1832 Edward WIBBERLEY Back Lane 78 4 Dec 1832 Anne ASHOVER Almhouse Church St 68 7 Dec 1832 James SOWTER Market Palce 49 11 Dec 1832 William CARRINGTON Clifton Lane 22 14 Dec 1832 George MALBON Tiger Yard 11 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi Isabel It is there now, not sure what went wrong but it didn't update itself Cheers Neil   http://claycross.org.uk/ >________________________________ > From: Isabel <govindamohini@sky.com> >To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com >Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2013, 9:14 >Subject: [DBY] Yesterdays updated > >Hi > >I cannot see the schools for Sandiacre on the Yesterdays Journey website.  I >have looked under schools on the left hand menu but Sandiacre doesn't >appear.  Does it come under a different place name? >Thank you > >Isabel > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Yes, Sorry, Dawn, You are correct. My mistake - I misread my files. I have a feeling they are near Hazelwood area, poss read it on a Land Tax, but have not found a death. Might be worth reading the Belper register. Thanks Hilary

Hello Diane, Following on from my short e-mail sent just before Christmas. The family of TEMPEST in the Duffield area must have been influential as a number of families in the area who were descendants but did not carry the surname of TEMPEST would use the name as a Christian name. Marilyn's GGGrandparents were John SMITH and Ellen nee SOWTER. Ellen was the daughter of George Sowter and Eliza BUXTON nee TEMPEST. The connection into the SMITH family is the second marriage of Eliza TEMPEST in 1827. John and Ellen SMITH named a daughter Eliza Tempest SMITH George Smith, Son of John & Ellen named a son William Tempest SMITH William Tempest SMITH named a daughter Eileen Tempest SMITH Marilyn grandaughter of William Tempest SMITH and myself named our son Richard Tempest BAGWORTH If you search on your maternal lines you may well find a TEMPEST marriage. From what you have said the chances are that the TEMPEST link is in Duffield. If you do find a link let me know as I have the TEMPEST family tree back as far as I can progress it, around 1660. Mike Bagworth Mickleover, Derby > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diane Tempest" <diane.tempest@btopenworld.com> > > A letter and a Bible. The letter is from John Tempest of Little Eaton Mill > > No 69 Paper Mills. He is sending £5 to my G G G Grandmother and says"if > you > > want any more ask other members of the family" Dated 1877. Her name was > > Susannah Skellern maiden name of Hope.Born Paddington. I have her Bible. > > She married a man called Rutty and at age 22 a widow married Skellern a > > Bookbinder in London.in 1834 > > They stayed together all the rest of their lives and died in an > Almshouse.My > > mother baptised me Diane Tempest WHY!!! WAS IT THE LETTERS? CAN > ANY-ONE > > THROW ANY LIGHT ON MY PROBLEM ?PLEASE. Diane. Tempest.

Hi I cannot see the schools for Sandiacre on the Yesterdays Journey website. I have looked under schools on the left hand menu but Sandiacre doesn't appear. Does it come under a different place name? Thank you Isabel

Hilary, Daughter Ann was baptised two months after her parents were married according to the familysearch.org website. Seeing it was so soon after they married have you thought that perhaps they had moved far away from home to be married & have the baby before they moved back home again. There are a couple of baptisms, 1808 & 1809, in Darton, Yorkshire with a father Thomas but no mother's name, might be worth looking into. There's also one in Mansfield, Nottingham 1808, no parents at all for that one but another one to follow up. In the 1851 census there's a Martha Blacker aged 73 living in Liverpool, she was born in Ireland, could be her, strangely the entry said she was a Widow AND unmarried! I then started to look for Martha in the 1841 census and that's when I came across a more likely entry! She was aged 65, Independent means, born in Derbyshire and living in Sheldon which is a chapelry in the Bakewell parish. I had a look on the Bakewell CD I have but there's no Blackers on there, however, I think I have the Sheldon MIs on microfiche which I will dig out and check tomorrow for you, as it's after 2am New Years Day here! Happy New Year....Dawn ©¿©¬ Hilary Thomas wrote: > > Hi All > > I've not been able to find Thomas BLACKER, who is married in Blackwell by > Alfreton in 1798 to Martha Helkin. They have a daughter Ann who is bapt > just a day before their marriage. > On the whole I havn't found many with this name in Derbyshire to give me any > clues. I'v searched for some years for this eleusive fellow.

Hi geners, to Os by Ash. OSMASTON BY ASJBOURNE BURIALS 1842 8 Jan 1842 John JOHNSON Derby 86 20 Feb 1842 Mary JOHNSON Osmaston 24* * 4 May 1842 Frances WHEATLEY Osmaston 67 22 Jul 1842 Isaac WIBBERLEY Osmaston 68 16 Sep 1842 Isaac WARNER Osmaston 65 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

now to SbyB STANTON BY BRIDGE BURIALS 1876 3 Jan 1876 Edith FIELDING Stanton by Bridge 3 2 Feb 1876 Emma RATCLIFF Stanton by Bridge 56 5 Jun 1876 Joseph ASHER Stanton by Bridge 72 20 Sep 1876 William WARD Stanton by Bridge 76 died in Shardlow workhouse 27 Dec 1876 Sarah WHITAKER Stanton by Bridge 54 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

to Riddings RIDDINGS BURIALS 1843 May-Jun 3 May 1843 Isaac FARNSWORTH Riddings 2 19 May 1843 William LIMB Pilsley 67 23 May 1843 Hannah WINROW Teversal? 15m 23 May 1843 Sarah Ann BARTON Somercotes 23 27 May 1843 Benjamin GRANEY Ironville 1 28 May 1843 Benjamin HARDSTAFF Somercotes 11m 28 May 1843 Alfred RICHARDSON Somercotes 13 16 Jun 1843 Fanny HANLEY ? Riddings 5 wks 18 Jun 1843 Emma WAGSTAFF Ironville 9m 18 Jun 1843 Ann GASGOINE Birchwood 51 19 Jun 1843 John ROE Greenhill Lane 6 25 Jun 1843 Betty BARNHAM Ironville 24 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

to Shirland SHIRLAND BURIALS 1845 4 Jan 1845 William PEACOCK Shirland 70 7 Jan 1845 Mary BREFFITT Higham 86 7 Jan 1845 Thomas JOINES Shirland a stranger 39 12 Jan 1845 Elizabeth WHITE Higham 48 21 Jan 1845 Sarah BATES Higham 55 3 Feb 1845 Thomas DAKIN Hillside 67 9 Feb 1845 William STOPPARD Hallfieldgate 76 11 Feb 1845 John TURNER Shirland 6 13 Feb 1845 John HOBSON Higham 65 3 Mar 1845 Sarah Maria MILLWARD Tibshelf 15 6 Mar 1845 Betty RILEY Alfreton 73 10 Mar 1845 Frances PURSGLOVE Shirland inf 21 Mar 1845 Sarah SIDDALL Alfreton 73 18 Apr 1845 Joseph COX Hallfieldgate 21 28 Apr 1845 John THORP Wessington 21 24 Jun 1845 John BLANT Shirland 8m 25 Jun 1845 Abraham HEARNSHAW Heage 71 24 Aug 1845 Joseph NELSON Shirland 62 31 Oct 1845 Samuel HOYLAND South Wingfield 56 9 Dec 1845 Ann COOPER Halllfieldgate 80 plus 25 Nov 1846 James TOMLINSON Wessington 15 death by accident from stone thrown by brother mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

now to Blackwell BLACKWELL BURIALS 1865 20 Jan 1865 Thomas WILSON Newton 79 24 Mar 1865 John WILD Blackwell 49 26 Mar 1865 Thomas SPENCER from Tapton Derbyshire 19 8 Apr 1865 George Wall BALL Blackwell 39 13 Oct 1865 Hannah wife of George DOBB Newton 23 3 Aug 1865 Mary the wid? (wife) of Joseph RAYNOR from Ripley 75 22 Oct 1865 Mary wife of George SILKSTONE Blackwell 43 5 Nov 1865 Sarah wife of Samuel DOBB Newton 37 6 Dec 1865 Sarah Ann wife of Alfred BOOT Hucknall Sutton in Ashfield 25 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi everyone I've been looking for some time for Henry NEWTON born June qtr 1844 in Draycott Derbyshire, son of George born 1815 Draycott and Elizabeth BOSWORTH born 1806 Derbyshire. The 1851 census shows Henry and brother John with father George, now a widower and farming 12 acres at Wilne. 1861, Henry and brother William are with father, now a butcher on High Road Beeston and remarried to Margaret CHADBURN born 1834 Mansfield. Henry's marriage certificate on 24 July 1865 shows he is a butcher and his wife to be Elizabeth SHIPSTONE b 1847 Basford. The couple are living on Plumtre Street Nottingham at the time if their marriage and Henry's father, George is now an Inn Keeper and in 1881 he is a Beerkeeper at Backmoor, Norton, Derbys. This is the last sighting of Henry that I can find although the 1871 shows his wife is living with her two children John Henry born 1865 (my grandfather) and Mary Elizabeth age 5 months and her mother Ann SHIPSTON on Lincoln Street Basford The children, surname recorded as SHIPSTONE in 1881 appear with their grandmother Ann in Basford whilst their mother Elizabeth is an Officer at Unon Workhouse, York Street Nottingham, occupation given as nurse of imbeciles and unmarried. I haven't found a divorce, death or any positive census record after 1865 so where are you Henry? Thanks for the opportunity to post this and wishing all a Happy and fruitful New Year Regards Nina

Aah that makes more sense. Have had a look for his navy record but can't find anything Maureen. Barbara -------------------------------------------------- From: "Maureen Allen" <allen_maureen1@sky.com> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 10:55 AM To: <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [DBY] Matthew COPE