Hi... I am trying to verify parents of Ann ELLIS, who married John Hemingray in 1815 in Alfreton. According to family information she was born in 1797, though the census record in 1841 gives an older age. Her parents may have been Thomas ELLIS and Jenny Fletcher ELLIS , who married in Alfreton circa 1790. However, since Ellis is such a common name, there is a William Ellis, wife Dorothy, who had a child Ann in 1797 from Chesterfield, that has caused me to further investigate. Ann and John Hemingray had at least three children: Samuel, Elizabeth and William. Trouble is...those names occur in both families. An even odder reference is found in a biography here in the States for William Hemingray, that suggests that his mother's people were originally from the area of Derbyshire near Castle Donington. I have no idea where that came from or how early . Sometimes these 19th century bios state facts from the 17th century with no verification of dates. So....this has become a bit of a brick wall. Bev W -----Original Message----- From: Charani <charani.b@gmail.com> To: derbysgen <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Apr 8, 2013 4:18 am Subject: [DBY] Brickwall Demolition - E I have some E surnames but either not in Derbyshire or post WWI. So it's over to you :)) Anyone with an E surname that's being a problem? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Patti, I have your Shaw's in my tree: John b. May 1600 Halifax, Yorkshire, England and d. 1664 Plymouth Colony, Massachusetts. Plymouth Colony Pilgrim (husband of Alice, father of John, Abigail, James and Jonathan). John & Alice children Son John b. ca 1622 Daur Abigail b. ca. 1624 married ca 1643 Stephen Bryant Son James b. ca. 1628 married 24 Dec 1652 Plymouth Colony to Mary Mitchell b. ca 1634 d. ca. 1679 Bridgewater, Plymouth Son Jonathan b. ca 1631 married 22 Jan 1656 to Phebe Watson . Jonathan's 2nd marriage abt 1683 to Persis Dudham b. ca. 1835 Jonathan & Phebe had daughter Lydia Shaw b. abt 1689 Eastham, MA d. ukn, married 4 Apr 1689 to Lt. Nicholas Snow b. 6 Dec 1663 Eastham, MA d. abt 1754 Rochester, MA. They had 7 children. Please contact me off list. Genealogy Research in UK: Ripley, Codnor, Heanor, Ilkeston, Derbyshire and the Districts of Belper, Basford and Loscoe: Birkinshaw, Brown, Brindley, Buxton, Evans, Gill, Grainger, Hutsby, Jenkins, Matkin, Oliver, Stanley, Wilson Cambridgeshire, Lincolnshire, Tyne And Wear, Yorkshire: Ashall, Aspey, Cheetham, Hall, Purvis, Sholing, Woolston, Southampton, Hampshire: Gilbert, Hinton, How, Lovell, Parker, Read Cornwall: Godfrey, Oliver, Trewartha, Tresidder Australia and New Zealand: Cheetham, Lovell Genealogy Research in USA: New York, New Jersey: Murray, Gill, Dilley, Gilbert California: Arnese, Curnow, Murray Rhode Island: Richardson Harold Murray Kansas City, Missouri, USA
First time visitor Seeking information regarding my SHAW ancestors and any possible Shaw relatives still living in Matlock, Derbyshire, England. My 9th Great Grandmother (I believe ) was Jean Editha Cunningham b. 23 Oct 1576 in Ashbourne, Derbyshire and died in Matlock. Her father is listed as Antonii Shaw. Was this a second marriage for her or was her mother's maiden name Cunningham? 9th Great Grandfather was Captain John Shaw. b. 1570 in Matlock d. 1620 in Conneticut - British American Colonies. Captain John Shaw arrived in Cape Cod in 1620 with his sons- Thomas, John and Edmund. Thomas who was one of the founders of Windsor, CT John b. May 1600 Halifax, Yorkshire, England and d.1664 Plymouth Colony, Massachusetts. Plymouth Colony Pilgrim (husband of Alice, father of John, Abigail, James and Jonathan). Edward aka Edmund S. Shaw b. 30 Jan 1595 in Matlock. He settled in Fairfield, CT and then in Cape May, NJ. He married Anne Kellet and Jane Pierson in NY. Edmund d. 3 May 1665 East Hampton, Long Island, NY. I would appreciate any information regarding my ancestors. Thank you. Patti Lee Gates
A message for Peter Patilla, First congratulations on a very helpful website. I have a family of Pearsons of Crich starting with my GGF x 4 Benjamin Pearson born 1756 approx and Mary Ogden There are nine children and one of them, Job, my GGF x3 moves to Chesterfield where at one point he is a hatter. His son James my GGF x 2 was a cabinet maker. He married Elizabeth Arthur of Wadshelf. The family names are all bible related so I was presuming that they were non conformists but I have noticed a Laurence Pearson, Quaker 1657 on your website. It looks as though the family goes back in Crich further than I thought. Stuart Hill (Hills of Crich and Wadshelf ) is my second cousin related to me through the Froggatts of Stonelow. We came across each other through a mailing list . He has provided me with leads to the Pearsons of Crich and I wondered whether you might know whether there are any Pearsons still in Crich. Kind regards , Jennifer N.
You can still search by batch numbers Aileen, if you start at this page here:- https://familysearch.org/ under 'Restrict Options By' you'll see on one line Location/Type/Batch Number click on Batch Number and up pops a box for you to type in the number That link that Jim sent looks like a good place to search for batch numbers if you don't already know them, I didn't know about that one thanks Jim. Cheers....Dawn ©¿©¬ ann wrote: > > Can anyone help me to find records on IGI > using batch numbers please, > since the changes to the family search I have been unable to find anything
Rita In my Crich records I have Enoch Walters of Pentrich marrying Anne Taylor of Pentrich on 9 Dec 1751 at Crich You say you have not come across any Greens in the Crich records. There are several but I presume not any that belong to you (sod's law) If you have any in particular you would like me to check again I will be pleased to do so Best wishes Peter On 5 Apr 2013, at 19:10, Rita Effnert wrote: > Am 05.04.2013 14:48, schrieb Peter Patilla: >> Afternoon all >> Updated names staring with G in the BMD section of www.crichparish.co.uk >> Trying to stay ahead of the brick-wall queries! >> >> Peter >> >> > Re: Crich names with G...I havent come across any Greens yet (my > maiden name) but I have noticed a couple of Walters...my dad's mother > was a Walters but from Pentrich- have noticed on the RG12 piece no 2744 > Folio 102-107 1891 Walters Enos 11 scholar, Crich Carr. I feel sure > this should be Enoch, also Isaac aged 6 Scholar could have been a relative. > Rita in Germany > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Am 05.04.2013 14:48, schrieb Peter Patilla: > Afternoon all > Updated names staring with G in the BMD section of www.crichparish.co.uk > Trying to stay ahead of the brick-wall queries! > > Peter > > Re: Crich names with G...I havent come across any Greens yet (my maiden name) but I have noticed a couple of Walters...my dad's mother was a Walters but from Pentrich- have noticed on the RG12 piece no 2744 Folio 102-107 1891 Walters Enos 11 scholar, Crich Carr. I feel sure this should be Enoch, also Isaac aged 6 Scholar could have been a relative. Rita in Germany
Afternoon all Updated names staring with G in the BMD section of www.crichparish.co.uk Trying to stay ahead of the brick-wall queries! Peter
I use to identify batch numbers and then link to appropriate pages http://www.archersoftware.co.uk/igi/ Bye Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "ann" <rosableu08@yahoo.co.uk> To: <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 1:20 PM Subject: [DBY] using batch numbers on IGI > > Can anyone help me to find records on IGI > using batch numbers please, > since the changes to the family search I have been unable to find anything > > Aileen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Can anyone help me to find records on IGI using batch numbers please, since the changes to the family search I have been unable to find anything Aileen
> >John > >Thank you for posting this - I have some similar silk cards from an elderly aunt, one of those is from a gentleman admirer who Grandma disapproved of and obviously she did not go on to marry him. > >I managed to find that Alfred married Ada Mary Meredith WHITEHEAD about Dec 1876. > >There is a Berridge family tree on ancestry showing that the Whiteheads go back to Worsop, and before that to Harthill, Yorks if anyone is interested. Some of them moved into Nottingham. > >Several of the surnames on that tree suggest they intermarried with families that appear on mine. > >There is a Berridge Road in Nottingham very close to where I was born which made me take a look! > >Regards >Mavis > > >From: John Palmer <johnpalmer@wirksworth.org.uk> >>To: DERBYSGEN-L@rootsweb.com >>Sent: Thursday, 4 April 2013, 10:58 >>Subject: [DBY] GISBORN Benjamin sent WOODFORD Nancy 2 love-cards. >> >>Hello Folks, >>Does anyone have GISBORN, WOODFORD, GREENHOUGH or STEANE in their family >>tree? >>See www.wirksworth.org.uk/X642.htm "Love from France" >> >>On Ebay I won two silk-embroidered love-cards, from a soldier 'Ben' in >>France WW1 >>to his girl 'Nancy' in Wirksworth. One card has dried flowers. >>Due to girl's unusual surname, managed to work out quite a large tree with >>dates for both families. >>Soldier survived the War, they married in 1923, had a daughter in 1923. Very >>romantic. >>See 'Research', which was exciting. Worked out how they met, also how her >>parents met. >>Soldier sent cards when Nancy was under 16, they married when she was 21. >>They had a daughter Jean E GISBORN in 1923. >> >>Regards to all, >>John Palmer, Dorset, England >>Author of Wirksworth website >>www.wirksworth.org.uk >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > >
Great research, glad you posted it.
Facinating. -----Original Message----- From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Palmer Sent: 04 April 2013 10:59 To: DERBYSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY] GISBORN Benjamin sent WOODFORD Nancy 2 love-cards. Hello Folks, Does anyone have GISBORN, WOODFORD, GREENHOUGH or STEANE in their family tree? See www.wirksworth.org.uk/X642.htm "Love from France" On Ebay I won two silk-embroidered love-cards, from a soldier 'Ben' in France WW1 to his girl 'Nancy' in Wirksworth. One card has dried flowers. Due to girl's unusual surname, managed to work out quite a large tree with dates for both families. Soldier survived the War, they married in 1923, had a daughter in 1923. Very romantic. See 'Research', which was exciting. Worked out how they met, also how her parents met. Soldier sent cards when Nancy was under 16, they married when she was 21. They had a daughter Jean E GISBORN in 1923. Regards to all, John Palmer, Dorset, England Author of Wirksworth website www.wirksworth.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Folks, Does anyone have GISBORN, WOODFORD, GREENHOUGH or STEANE in their family tree? See www.wirksworth.org.uk/X642.htm "Love from France" On Ebay I won two silk-embroidered love-cards, from a soldier 'Ben' in France WW1 to his girl 'Nancy' in Wirksworth. One card has dried flowers. Due to girl's unusual surname, managed to work out quite a large tree with dates for both families. Soldier survived the War, they married in 1923, had a daughter in 1923. Very romantic. See 'Research', which was exciting. Worked out how they met, also how her parents met. Soldier sent cards when Nancy was under 16, they married when she was 21. They had a daughter Jean E GISBORN in 1923. Regards to all, John Palmer, Dorset, England Author of Wirksworth website www.wirksworth.org.uk
It wasn't the age we (Christine & me) were worried about Peter, it was the father's name. In the Crich baptisms his father is listed as 'John' but there is no John & Elizabeth Bullock in the area in 1841, John & Elizabeth didn't have any other children baptised at Crich (or anywhere that we can find) and there is no marriage to be found either, or a death for a John, there is one for Elizabeth & Thomas' is at Wirksworth. As there is a child John of the right age living with Thomas & Elizabeth in 1841 we think the wrong name for the father was recorded. It's something we'll never be able to prove unfortunately. Cheers....Dawn ©¿©¬ Peter Patilla wrote: > Christine > I have checked the baptism date for John Bullock from my original notes and 1830 is what I recorded. I have cross-checked with Val Neal's transcription and she has the same year as does the IGI record. > May be the age is wrong on the 1841 census. > Given ages on the census, especially the 1841 need treating with some caution. My favourite is from my own tree where triplets (called Faith, Hope & Charity) over a three census period managed between them to have a ten year difference! > Peter
Christine I have checked the baptism date for John Bullock from my original notes and 1830 is what I recorded. I have cross-checked with Val Neal's transcription and she has the same year as does the IGI record. May be the age is wrong on the 1841 census. Given ages on the census, especially the 1841 need treating with some caution. My favourite is from my own tree where triplets (called Faith, Hope & Charity) over a three census period managed between them to have a ten year difference! Peter On 2 Apr 2013, at 19:31, Christine Simpson wrote: > Hi Sue > > Thanks for looking. I'm beginning to think that there may be a mistake in > the baptism records as there is a John Bullock, aged 9, living with his > parents Thomas and Elizabeth Bullock, on the 1841 Census at Crich. This > probably explains why no marriage can be found for a John Bullock. > > Regards > Christine > > -----Original Message----- > From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Sue Brown > Sent: 02 April 2013 18:03 > To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DBY] Marriage of John Bullock to Elizabeth Unknown > > Hi Christine, > > Afraid that there isn't a likely marriage in the Derbys Marriage Index > 1538-1837, including the as yet uncomputerised part. > Sorry about that. > > Sue > > >> ________________________________ >> >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 19:55:27 +0100 >> From: "Christine Simpson" <c.a.simpson@btinternet.com> >> Subject: [DBY] Marriage of John Bullock to Elizabeth Unknown >> To: <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <000c01ce2f0a$79bd7180$6d385480$@btinternet.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Hello Everyone >> >> >> >> I am looking for a marriage for John Bullock to Elizabeth Unknown >> around >> 1830 in Derbyshire. I have found the baptism on the Crich website, >> thanks to Peter Patilla's good work, of their son, John, baptised 14 >> November 1830. Their abode is given as Crich Carr. I have had a look >> on the Derbyshire Marriage Index 1537-1837 website but couldn't find >> any marriage that might fit. Any help would be appreciated. >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Christine >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the DERBYSGEN list administrator, send an email to >> DERBYSGEN-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the DERBYSGEN mailing list, send an email to > DERBYSGEN@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of DERBYSGEN Digest, Vol 8, Issue 80 >> **************************************** >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Sue and Dawn Thank you for the replies I can now add the Bonsall marriage date to the Crich Banns dates (Like to know whether the couple married or if it did not happen) Another good hit for the site Peter On 3 Apr 2013, at 08:38, Sue Brown wrote: > Hi Peter > > George Tomlinson of Tansley p Crich & Eliz Greenhough of Bonsall, married at Bonsall, 30 Oct 1764 by banns. This will be in the next update of the Derbyshire Marriage Index due later this month. > > Cheers, > > Sue > > http://www.derbyshiremarriages1538-1837.co.uk/ > >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 19:20:28 +0100 >> From: Peter Patilla <ppatilla@mac.com> >> Subject: [DBY] Bonsall marriage 1764 >> To: Derbysgen Derbyshire <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <56F58898-230B-4012-A1B6-AA9939609ABD@mac.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Evening all >> I do struggle with Bonsall records! >> I have banns read in Crich Oct 1764 to Elizabeth Greenhough and George Tomlinson >> but no marriage date, Elizabeth was from Bonsall so presume was married there >> I would like to confirm this if possible. >> Has anyone access to Bonsall marriages at this time? >> I would like to add the marriage date to my record if possible >> In hope, >> Peter >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Peter I have the Neale's CD of Bonsall and the marriage entry for George Tomlinson and Elizabeth Greenhough gives a date of 30 Oct 1764. George was from Tansley and Elizabeth from Bonsall although she doesn't seem to have been baptised there. Cheers....Dawn ©¿©¬ Peter Patilla wrote: > Has anyone access to Bonsall marriages at this time?
Hi Peter George Tomlinson of Tansley p Crich & Eliz Greenhough of Bonsall, married at Bonsall, 30 Oct 1764 by banns. This will be in the next update of the Derbyshire Marriage Index due later this month. Cheers, Sue http://www.derbyshiremarriages1538-1837.co.uk/ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 19:20:28 +0100 > From: Peter Patilla <ppatilla@mac.com> > Subject: [DBY] Bonsall marriage 1764 > To: Derbysgen Derbyshire <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <56F58898-230B-4012-A1B6-AA9939609ABD@mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Evening all > I do struggle with Bonsall records! > I have banns read in Crich Oct 1764 to Elizabeth Greenhough and George Tomlinson > but no marriage date, Elizabeth was from Bonsall so presume was married there > I would like to confirm this if possible. > Has anyone access to Bonsall marriages at this time? > I would like to add the marriage date to my record if possible > In hope, > Peter > >
Hi, Wondering if there are any relations to Moses BISHOP and his wife Annie LAMBERT. His 1st Wife Elizabeth Trenfield died in 1874 and Moses remarried 1875 June 8th ,Moses, pointsman, remarried after Elizabeth's death to Annie Lambert at Quarndon in the County of Derby. Moses residence at the time of his marriage was Longstone. 1881 census 25 Cummings Street, Litchurch, Derby. Moses 33, railway signalman born Oxon Combe Annie 30 born Leicestershire Thornton Edmund G.11,born Worcestershire Fladbury Andrew J. 10, ditto Tom A. 8 ditto Annie 4 born Derby William 3, ditto Winnie 8mths ditto , 1889 when his son Tom Arthur Bishop enlisted Moses was living at 39 Silver Hill Road Derby Derby Mercury - Wednesday 21 August 1889 Moses entered his flowers and vegetables in the Midland Railway Show Got 1st prize for his marrows 1891 census 16 Dover St. Derby Moses 43, railway signalman, born Oxfordshire Combe Annie 40, born Leicestershire Thornton Annie14 boot worker/Jacker? born Derby William 13, Newagent's assistant, ditto Minnie 10, ditto John 9, ditto Mary 7 ditto Harold 5 ditto 1901 census Alvaston 50 Baker Street Derby. Moses 52 railway signalman born Oxon Combe Annie 50 b. Leicestershire Thornton, Minnie 20 b.Derby, draper's assistant Mary 17, b. Derby, dressmaker Harold 15 b. Derby, Railway Clerk Alice M. 9 b.Derby, 1911 census The family were living at 46 Cooperative, St Derby Moses 62 Railway Signalman, Ann his wife 59, b. Lister Thornton Alice Maud 19, single , a dressmaker. . Ann says they were married for 35 years .She had 7 children all still alive.Moses has signed the form. 1923 Moses died the 28th April 1923 aged 74 at Derby at 46 Co-Operative Street Derby. Moses died of cardiac degeneration. His daughter M. Bishop signed his death certificate. His occupation was railway signalman. Would dearly love any member of this family to get in touch with me. I am hopeful that someone out there might have a photo of Moses BISHOP Many thanks Cheers Marilyn from Western Australia