Hallo Please keep discussions about DNA to the appropriate lists. There are lists/forums on both Rootsweb and Rootschat for the purpose. Thank you -- List Admin, Derbysgen

Hi Andrea This appears to be your man UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 about William Ratcliffe Name: William Ratcliffe Birth Place: Derby Residence: Weston-on-trent, Derbyshire Death Date: 14 Feb 1916 Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: Derby Rank: Private Regiment: Sherwood Foresters (Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment) Battalion: 10th Battalion Number: 6121 Type of Casualty: Killed in action Theatre of War: Western European Theatre 15th Oct 1915 officer in command Battalion - forfeit one days pay for absence - in the field - on the 9th Oct 1915 3rd Dec 1915 officer in command Battalion - Rejoined Battalion - 26th Nov 1915 The last five lines are partly difficult to work out I wondered if the two "Dent"? referred to dental work, it mentions or infers dental problems elsewhere in his records, the two names being perhaps field hospitals Others read Rejoined Battalion in the field 30th Jan 1916 Reported Missing in the field 14th Feb 1916 Last line appears to read Authorised to Report Killed in Action 14th Feb 1916 which fits in with soldiers died WO List = War Office List but which particular list I don't know Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 24/05/2013 13:16, Andrea Newham wrote: > Hello folks > > Can anyone help me read the page (link below for those with Ancestry > sub) ive found for my Gt-Uncle on Ancestry - its from his Attestation > papers (i currently have taken advantage of free access for military > records this weekend). Im intrigued as to what the Casualty form is > saying on the first line dated 15/10/15, 4th line dated 3/12 and from > the 7th line onwards (starting 20/1/16) although i can read 'reported > missing'on 14/2/16. Im particularly interested in suggestions of > locations and what the final line says in full?? Also does anyone > know what 'WO list' is? > > I believe he was involved in the fighting around Ypres but im trying > to get a bit of background. Any help and advice gratefully > received. > > http://interactive.ancestry.com/1219/30974_186556-00151/1682010?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dBritishArmyService%26rank%3d1%26new%3d1%26so%3d3%26MSAV%3d0%26msT%3d1%26gss%3dms_db%26gsfn%3dwilliam%26gsln%3drat*%26msbdy%3d1879%26msbpn__ftp%3dDerbyshire%252c%2bEngland%26dbOnly%3d_F0003C18%257c_F0003C18_x%252c_F0003CA3%257c_F0003CA3_x%26uidh%3d000%26nreg%3d1&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults#?imageId=30974_186556-00159 > > Andrea Newham >

Afternoon all Just back from holiday and catching up on emails. Computer is sulking at lack of attention for a week and is going slow. I would like to thank all those who replied to my Isaac Patilla brick- wall query. The responses have really helped me. I like the suggestion from Andy that they may have "hidden" in the mine shaft to avoid the censuses. This seems like a possible Patilla trait! To feed-back the information received. I have two Isaac Patilla on my tree, one was married and lived in Crich area, the other (my brick wall) was a miner born in Shirland 1858. Thanks to Geraldine I have some answers but some more research oddities to sort out. Isaac had a brother Henry who changed his name to Alec between 1871 and 1881. They lived/boarded together until 1911. Their surname varied between Patilla, Turner and Clark. Their place of birth varied between Shirland and Sheffield (they did live in Sheffield for a time with Aunt Ann Bown). Throughout the census they were miners When they self-filled in the 1911 census they gave Turner as surname and misspelt forenames. When Isaac died in 1923 he was recorded as Isaac Patilla aged 65, miner. I am now going to look for Alec/Henry Patilla/Clark/Turner death. He will be hiding in there somewhere. Also trying to find why they used Turner as surname ... intrigued Very glad to have posted the query and thanks again to all who responded Peter On 21 May 2013, at 23:01, Geraldine Bancroft wrote: > Hi Peter > > Further to my last post, about change of name, there are two brothers in > Skegby in 1901 - Alec & Isaac - boarders with family named CLARK - the > surname has been dittoed down so these might be your two although the ages > are a bit out and born in Sheffield which could have been Shirland misheard? > > Again can't find a Isaac CLARK born 1858 Sheffield on any other Census. > > I have now found Isaac & Alic TURNER born Sheffield in Skegby in 1891 - > lodgers aged 31 & 33 - both miners & single. > > More questions than answers, I'm afraid! > > Geraldine > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Patilla > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 2:51 PM > To: Derbyshire Derbysgen > Subject: [DBY] Isaac Patilla vanishes > > Afternoon all > I have been waiting for the Ps to appear > My brick wall is Isaac Patilla born 1858 in Ashover/Brackenfield/Shirland > area; a miner who died 1923 in Mansfield area > I have tracked him with difficulty in 1861, 1871 and 1881 (Partiller, Pathia > and Satilla) > However the remaining three census have him hidden. I have tried prisons > (first avenue of enquiry) services, passenger lists but drawn a blank > I would like to find his whereabouts if possible > Peter > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello folks Can anyone help me read the page (link below for those with Ancestry sub) ive found for my Gt-Uncle on Ancestry - its from his Attestation papers (i currently have taken advantage of free access for military records this weekend).  Im intrigued as to what the Casualty form is saying on the first line dated 15/10/15, 4th line dated 3/12 and from the 7th line onwards (starting 20/1/16) although i can read 'reported missing'on 14/2/16.  Im particularly interested in suggestions of locations and what the final line says in full??  Also does anyone know what 'WO list' is? I believe he was involved in the fighting around Ypres but im trying to get a bit of background.  Any help and advice gratefully received. http://interactive.ancestry.com/1219/30974_186556-00151/1682010?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dBritishArmyService%26rank%3d1%26new%3d1%26so%3d3%26MSAV%3d0%26msT%3d1%26gss%3dms_db%26gsfn%3dwilliam%26gsln%3drat*%26msbdy%3d1879%26msbpn__ftp%3dDerbyshire%252c%2bEngland%26dbOnly%3d_F0003C18%257c_F0003C18_x%252c_F0003CA3%257c_F0003CA3_x%26uidh%3d000%26nreg%3d1&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults#?imageId=30974_186556-00159 Andrea Newham

Did you notice on the first line he lost (Forfeited) a days pay for absence. Mike Morris Toronto Canada ________________________________  From: Mike Morris <morrisind@rogers.com> To: "derbysgen@rootsweb.com" <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 10:33:35 AM Subject: Re: [DBY] Help with reading military notes - RATCLIFFE 'Killed in action in the field'.

'Killed in action in the field'. Mike Morris Toronto Canada >>>________________________________ >>> From: Andrea Newham <andreanewham@hotmail.com> >>>To: "derbysgen@rootsweb.com" <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> >>>Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 8:16:39 AM >>>Can anyone help me read the page (link below for those with Ancestry sub) ive found for my Gt-Uncle on Ancestry - its from his Attestation papers (i currently have taken advantage of free access for military records this weekend).  Im intrigued as to what the Casualty form is saying on the first line dated 15/10/15, 4th line dated 3/12 and from the 7th line onwards (starting 20/1/16) although i can read 'reported missing'on 14/2/16.  Im particularly interested in suggestions of locations and what the final line says in full??  Also does anyone know what 'WO list' is? >>> >>>I believe he was involved in the fighting around Ypres but im trying to get a bit of background.  Any help and advice gratefully received. >>> >>>http://interactive.ancestry.com/1219/30974_186556-00151/1682010?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dBritishArmyService%26rank%3d1%26new%3d1%26so%3d3%26MSAV%3d0%26msT%3d1%26gss%3dms_db%26gsfn%3dwilliam%26gsln%3drat*%26msbdy%3d1879%26msbpn__ftp%3dDerbyshire%252c%2bEngland%26dbOnly%3d_F0003C18%257c_F0003C18_x%252c_F0003CA3%257c_F0003CA3_x%26uidh%3d000%26nreg%3d1&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults#?imageId=30974_186556-00159

At 16:06 23/05/2013, you wrote: >My Dads Y chromosome DNA is J2B which originates in the Middle East. His male ancestors are from staffs for several centuries. >Sally Being YDNA, your immigrating ancestor must have been male. I don't know if male captives were brought back from the crusades, but Roman soldiers certainly came from all parts of Europe including the Middle East. You need more research to find when he came to this country - have others of the same surname tested? HTH Andy.

There has always been a tradition in this part of Cheshire/North Staffs that the folk on Biddulph Moor were descended from Saracens as they were slightly swarthier than normal. There is also a story that Thomas A Becket's mother was from the Middle East. Marie

My Dads Y chromosome DNA is J2B which originates in the Middle East. His male ancestors are from staffs for several centuries. Sally Sent from my iPad On 2013-05-23, at 3:22 AM, Marie Ball <marieballtov@gmail.com> wrote: > There has always been a tradition in this part of Cheshire/North Staffs > that the folk on Biddulph Moor were descended from Saracens as they were > slightly swarthier than normal. There is also a story that Thomas A > Becket's mother was from the Middle East. Marie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hej Rita Yes I think we have been in touch before but it was some years ago. Do you have any connection with the only ELLET/ELLIOT in my tree? Or do you belong to haplogroup U1b1? I tested for mDNA with FamilyTreeDNA and found that I belonged to this extremely rare haplogroup. (or at least extremely rare in the British Isles) Best wishes Graham Göteborg, Sweden ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Effnert" <kessie3@online.de> To: <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [DBY] Female line Am 21.05.2013 16:57, schrieb Graham Freeman: > Hej > I am trying to find out more about my female line but have come to a dead > end and have not been able to confirm that some of the candidates are the > right ones. I hope that someone will be able to help me. The ones that I´m > uncertain about are the ones furthest back in time. > > Does anyone have any information about the following persons/families? > > Ann HOPKINSON, b 1716 (approx) in Shirland, Derbys. Marr William ELLET > (ELLIOT?) (b 1709) 12 Jan 1737 Shirland > Elizabeth ELLOT (ELLIOT) b Nov 1740, Tibshelf, Derbys, Marr 1. Edward > WARDLEY, 1768, Tibshelf, Marr 2 John CHAPMAN (1734 - 1816)26 Feb 1781, bur > 2 > Mar 1785 > Elizabeth CHAPMAN, bap 19 Nov 1781, Tibshelf , Marr. John NUTTALL 25 Nov > 1805, Kirkby-in Ashfield, d 7 May 1826, Pinxton > Elizabeth NUTTALL, b 6 Apr 1816, Marr Jesse BALL 15 Sep 1835, Pinxton > > Elizabeths NUTTALL´s sisters were: > Mary 1809 -1854 > Sarah 1822 - 1836 > > Hannah BALL b 9 Feb 1851, Pinxton, Marr Edward John SPIERS , 19 May 1877. > d > 19 Jun 1899. > > There is one thing they should have and that is that they all belong to > mDNA > haplogroup U1b1. This haplogroup is extremely rare with only 0.7% of the > European population belonging to this group. There is a slightly higher > concentration in East Europe and higher in the Middle East but the number > of > people belong to this group becomes fewer the further west one goes in > Europe. How did a woman belonging to this haplogroup land in a litle area > of > eastern Derbyshire? > > I would be grateful to hear from anyone with information of these women or > who also belongs to haplogroup U1b1. > > Best wishes > Graham Freeman > Göteborg, Sweden > > > I too have the ELLET...ELLIOTT name in my tree, have we been in touch > before? Rita in Germany ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Graham You asked, "Does anyone have any information about the following persons/families?" Ann HOPKINSON, b 1716 (approx) in Shirland, Derbys. Marr William ELLET (ELLIOT?) (b 1709) 12 Jan 1737 Shirland I have a brickwall concerning a female HOPKINSON in Shirland, namely : "On the 3 April 1724, William Richards married Abigail Berkhamshire, both of the parish of South Wingfield, Derbyshire at their parish church. Three children survived namely William, George and Dorothy. Sadly Abigail Richards died and was buried in 1731 and was buried at nearby Shirland Parish Church. William Richards, then a widower with three young children, was given poor relief but on the 7 February 1733 he married Elizabeth Hopkinson at nearby South Normanton Parish Church, Derbyshire. Both were said to be of Higham in the parish of Shirland. Two more children were born, namely Francis and Mathew, before Elizabth Richards died in September 1737, leaving William Richards, with five children and a widower for the second time. The youngest Mathew Richards was aged 18 months at that time. Where did the family move to? What became of baby Mathew Richards?" Were the HOPKINSON family farmers in Shirland? I wonder were the "ELLET (ELLIOT?) family in the early 1700s really "of Shirland"? It is many years since I researched Higham, Shirland and nearby parishes. Regards Jack : www.richardsbygonetimes.co.uk

Hi Margaret, You are probably already aware of this, being that you know Pett was a common name in Kent, but in case it helps I thought you may be interested to hear there was a family of shipbuilders by the name of Pett who leased an area of woodland in around 1577, causing the place to become known as Petts Wood, which it is still called today. It is near Orpington and Chislehurst. Rumour has it that they supplied the wood for ship's masts for the Battle of The Spanish Armada and there is a pub (a Wetherspoons) named The Sovereign of The Seas in recognition of this,in Queensway, Petts Wood. I'm afraid I don't have anymore info on this and don't know whether the family actually lived in the area. Regards, Kathy Wadlow > From: mthackray@btinternet.com > To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DBY] PETT in Hartington/Biggin > > Hi > > I have been trying to trace back the Pett family that lived in Biggin, Hartington Nether Quarter. I've got back as far as 1685, to a William Petty born in Hartington, married to Alice Hall, with children Elizabeth b1709, Ellen b 1712, Thomas b1715, Alice b 1719, William b 1723 and James b 1726. (I'm descended from Thomas) > > Can anyone suggest how I could find out about earlier generations? Pett/Petty is a common name in Kent and Cornwall, but not in Derbyshire! I have theorised that the family came north to find work, maybe in lead mining, but it is only a theory! > > Thanks > > Margaret > > > ________________________________ > From: Charani <charani.b@gmail.com> > To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, 19 May 2013, 12:10 > Subject: [DBY] Brickwall Demolition - PQ > > > OK, you proved me wrong last week :)) > > Anyone with surnames beginning with P or Q which they are stuck at? > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, > Greinton and Clutton, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Peter Further to my last post, about change of name, there are two brothers in Skegby in 1901 - Alec & Isaac - boarders with family named CLARK - the surname has been dittoed down so these might be your two although the ages are a bit out and born in Sheffield which could have been Shirland misheard? Again can't find a Isaac CLARK born 1858 Sheffield on any other Census. I have now found Isaac & Alic TURNER born Sheffield in Skegby in 1891 - lodgers aged 31 & 33 - both miners & single. More questions than answers, I'm afraid! Geraldine -----Original Message----- From: Peter Patilla Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 2:51 PM To: Derbyshire Derbysgen Subject: [DBY] Isaac Patilla vanishes Afternoon all I have been waiting for the Ps to appear My brick wall is Isaac Patilla born 1858 in Ashover/Brackenfield/Shirland area; a miner who died 1923 in Mansfield area I have tracked him with difficulty in 1861, 1871 and 1881 (Partiller, Pathia and Satilla) However the remaining three census have him hidden. I have tried prisons (first avenue of enquiry) services, passenger lists but drawn a blank I would like to find his whereabouts if possible Peter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Peter & Mike Did your Isaac have a reason to change his name? You mentioned prisons! In 1911 I have found an Isac TURNER 53yrs born Shirland with brother Alec aged 59yrs born Shirland - both miners and unmarried. They are still in Skegby, Notts No Isaac Turner appears to exist born in 1858 in Shirland on any other census. Any thoughts on why a name change may be possible? Geraldine Regards Geraldine Bancroft -----Original Message----- From: Mike Fry Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:12 PM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DBY] Isaac Patilla vanishes On 2013/05/19 15:51, Peter Patilla wrote: > I have been waiting for the Ps to appear My brick wall is Isaac Patilla > born > 1858 in Ashover/Brackenfield/Shirland area; a miner who died 1923 in > Mansfield area FreeBMD: Birth: Isaac PERTILLER Mar Q 1858, Chesterfield RD, 7b/465 Death: Isaac PATILLA aged 65 Sep Q 1923, Mansfield RD, 7b/107 > I have tracked him with difficulty in 1861, 1871 and 1881 (Partiller, > Pathia > and Satilla) However the remaining three census have him hidden. I have > tried > prisons (first avenue of enquiry) services, passenger lists but drawn a > blank I would like to find his whereabouts if possible FamilySearch: 1881 Census Head Samuel Tideswell M 30 Shirebrook, Derbyshire, England Wife Mary Tideswell F 30 Skegby, Nottinghamshire, England Son John Tideswell M 10 Skegby, Nottinghamshire, England Son George Tideswell M 8 Skegby, Nottinghamshire, England Son William Tideswell M 6 Skegby, Nottinghamshire, England Son Samuel Tideswell M 5 Skegby, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Elizabeth Tideswell F 2 Skegby, Nottinghamshire, England Boarder Alec Satilla M 26 Shirland, Derbyshire, England Boarder Isaac Satilla M 23 Shirland, Derbyshire, England So, with a brother named Alec, and lodging in Skegby, Notts. The 1861 census should identify his parents. Looks like William & Elizabeth Several other siblings: William, George, Mary and Henry and another, 12-year old son - Alec? FamilySearch: 1871 Census appears to have him as PATTELA in Sheffield, and born in Sheller Nephew of an Anthey BOWN! Another likely brother in Henry PATTELA Can't see him in 1891 Census. But you've probably already got this information. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Am 21.05.2013 16:57, schrieb Graham Freeman: > Hej > I am trying to find out more about my female line but have come to a dead > end and have not been able to confirm that some of the candidates are the > right ones. I hope that someone will be able to help me. The ones that I´m > uncertain about are the ones furthest back in time. > > Does anyone have any information about the following persons/families? > > Ann HOPKINSON, b 1716 (approx) in Shirland, Derbys. Marr William ELLET > (ELLIOT?) (b 1709) 12 Jan 1737 Shirland > Elizabeth ELLOT (ELLIOT) b Nov 1740, Tibshelf, Derbys, Marr 1. Edward > WARDLEY, 1768, Tibshelf, Marr 2 John CHAPMAN (1734 - 1816)26 Feb 1781, bur 2 > Mar 1785 > Elizabeth CHAPMAN, bap 19 Nov 1781, Tibshelf , Marr. John NUTTALL 25 Nov > 1805, Kirkby-in Ashfield, d 7 May 1826, Pinxton > Elizabeth NUTTALL, b 6 Apr 1816, Marr Jesse BALL 15 Sep 1835, Pinxton > > Elizabeths NUTTALL´s sisters were: > Mary 1809 -1854 > Sarah 1822 - 1836 > > Hannah BALL b 9 Feb 1851, Pinxton, Marr Edward John SPIERS , 19 May 1877. d > 19 Jun 1899. > > There is one thing they should have and that is that they all belong to mDNA > haplogroup U1b1. This haplogroup is extremely rare with only 0.7% of the > European population belonging to this group. There is a slightly higher > concentration in East Europe and higher in the Middle East but the number of > people belong to this group becomes fewer the further west one goes in > Europe. How did a woman belonging to this haplogroup land in a litle area of > eastern Derbyshire? > > I would be grateful to hear from anyone with information of these women or > who also belongs to haplogroup U1b1. > > Best wishes > Graham Freeman > Göteborg, Sweden > > > I too have the ELLET...ELLIOTT name in my tree, have we been in touch before? Rita in Germany

Can anyone tell me if the Disk from Derbyshire Family History Society has Somercotes, Chesterfield and Belper on it - as I have since found out that it would be pointless to purchase Phillimore's as it doesn't contain these districts - as they have not been transcribed.... Cheers Karen

Hej I am trying to find out more about my female line but have come to a dead end and have not been able to confirm that some of the candidates are the right ones. I hope that someone will be able to help me. The ones that I´m uncertain about are the ones furthest back in time. Does anyone have any information about the following persons/families? Ann HOPKINSON, b 1716 (approx) in Shirland, Derbys. Marr William ELLET (ELLIOT?) (b 1709) 12 Jan 1737 Shirland Elizabeth ELLOT (ELLIOT) b Nov 1740, Tibshelf, Derbys, Marr 1. Edward WARDLEY, 1768, Tibshelf, Marr 2 John CHAPMAN (1734 - 1816)26 Feb 1781, bur 2 Mar 1785 Elizabeth CHAPMAN, bap 19 Nov 1781, Tibshelf , Marr. John NUTTALL 25 Nov 1805, Kirkby-in Ashfield, d 7 May 1826, Pinxton Elizabeth NUTTALL, b 6 Apr 1816, Marr Jesse BALL 15 Sep 1835, Pinxton Elizabeths NUTTALL´s sisters were: Mary 1809 -1854 Sarah 1822 - 1836 Hannah BALL b 9 Feb 1851, Pinxton, Marr Edward John SPIERS , 19 May 1877. d 19 Jun 1899. There is one thing they should have and that is that they all belong to mDNA haplogroup U1b1. This haplogroup is extremely rare with only 0.7% of the European population belonging to this group. There is a slightly higher concentration in East Europe and higher in the Middle East but the number of people belong to this group becomes fewer the further west one goes in Europe. How did a woman belonging to this haplogroup land in a litle area of eastern Derbyshire? I would be grateful to hear from anyone with information of these women or who also belongs to haplogroup U1b1. Best wishes Graham Freeman Göteborg, Sweden

Hi Jon, Census for 1871 and possibles for 1881 and 1891 sent off list. Bridget missing in 1871 and John living with parents and no wife or child in 1891. Christine

My gx2 grandmother, Eliza Smith PRICE was born in 1831 in Hartshorne, Derbys. On her marriage certificate her father is given as William PRICE (dec). Her mother was Frances SMITH and married William LABAND in Appleby Magna in 1836 (Parish Registers) by Licence where Frances is given as a spinster of Hartshorne. This would indicate that Eliza was illegitimate and hence Eliza SMITH PRICE. Frances & William LABAND had at least 4 children. Any info on William PRICE or Frances SMITH (in advance of S names!) anyone? Geraldine Bancroft Researching in Derbys: EVANS, GOODMAN, HARRISON, LEEDHAM, STATHAM, WALTON, WILTON, YEOMANS -----Original Message----- From: Charani Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 12:10 PM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY] Brickwall Demolition - PQ OK, you proved me wrong last week :)) Anyone with surnames beginning with P or Q which they are stuck at? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Karen A quick google for Derbyshire Family History Society bookshop gets <http://www.dfhs.org.uk/index.php?id=~bookshop&header=12> Which suggests the places of interest you mention are not covered I presume you are looking for marriages? re Phillimores If seeking Phillimores many are available for free You can view the catalogue for Phillimores at archive.org Just enter Phillimore at http://archive.org/details/texts When last I checked in 2010 the available indexes for Derbyshire were Available for free download or read online At www.archive.org Select Texts Keyword Derbyshire (or Phillimore) Vol 1 Dale Abbey 1667 - 1813 Stanton by Dale 1605 - 1812 Stanley 1754 - 1812 Breaston 1719 - 1810 Sandiacre 1581 - 1812 Risley 1720 - 1812 Ockbrook 1631 - 1812 Boulton 1756 - 1812 Heath alias Lownd or Lund 1682 - 1812 Church Broughton 1538 - 1812 Hault Hucknall 1660 - 1812 Mackworth 1603 - 1812 Allestree 1595 - 1812 Vol 4 St Alkmund Derby 1538 - 1812 Quarndon 1755 - 1812 Tickenhall 1628 - 1812 Foremark 1663 - 1812 Vol 5 Norton 1559 - 1812 St Michael 1559 - 1812 Chaddesden 1718 - 1812 West Hallam 1638 - 1812 Morton 1575 - 1812 Volume 8 Ilkeston 1785 - 1791 Aston upon Trent 1667 - 1812 Weston on Trent 1565 - 1812 Swarkeston 1604 - 1837 Barrow upon Trent and Twyford 1657 - 1812 Stanton by Bridge 1664 - 1837 Melbourne 1653 - 1812 Smisby 1720 - 1812 Parwich 1639 - 1837 Alsop le Dale 1701 - 1837 Vol 10 St Werburgh 1558 - 1837 Vol 12 Chapel en le Frith 1621 - 1837 Fairfield 1756 - 1837 Buxton 1718 - 1837 Repton 1578 - 1837 Vol 13 Wilne 1540 - 1837 Sawley 1656 - 1837 Elvaston 1651 - 1837 Morley 1540 - 1837 Smalley 1624 - 1837 Breadsall 1573 - 1837 Appendix Kedleston Protestation Roll 1641 There may be more now If seeking other DBY Parishes it may also be worth checking http://www.uk-genealogy.org.uk/Registers/ Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 21/05/2013 08:34, Karen wrote: > Can anyone tell me if the Disk from Derbyshire Family History Society > has Somercotes, Chesterfield and Belper on it - as I have since found > out that it would be pointless to purchase Phillimore's as it doesn't > contain these districts - as they have not been transcribed.... > > Cheers > Karen