Hi Andrea....do you happen to have a RATCLIFFE ancestor that was married to a John BROWN? in your family? They were married 31st Oct, 1805 in Denby, Derbyshire. Ann was born about 1785. Barbara.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrea Newham" <andreanewham@hotmail.com> To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:17:28 AM Subject: [DBY] RATCLIFFE - thanks for help Hello all. Very grateful for the help in deciphering the attestation docs for my Gt- Uncle William. Don't think I'd have ever got 'forfeited a days pay'. The WO references have numbers after them so..........are they worth looking up does anyone know? The Attestation papers also mentioned that he'd previously been 'time-served in the Leicestershires'....a bit more digging has revealed he may also have fought in the Boer War and I'm seeking confirmation now! He'd have been very young (18) and must have been keen to leave Belper! Why did he join the Leicestershires? We may never know. It's sad but none of the family seem to have known anything about our ancestors military record! We must have lost touch with his widow. He was the eldest child of my Grans siblings and I have realised that he died on the same day as his Mum passed away in Derby! What a sad coincidence which neither would have known about obviously.....not until the telegram reached Derby later would the family have known. Thanks again you wonderful people! Andrea N Sent from my iPad ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Derby Mercury December 29, 1803 Derby, Wednesday, December 28 MARRIED On thgursday last, at the parish church of Hope, in this county, Mr Benjamin PEARSON, Jun. of Brough, to Miss ROBINSON, of Thornhill Carr; an accomplished young lady, with a handsome fortune. On Tuesday, Mr Joseph VERNON, of Hope, in this county, to Miss Mary HAMPSON, of Manchester. On Tuesday se'nnight, Mr H NORRIS, of Aston, near Sheffield; to Miss KESTEVEN, of Beighton Lawn, Yorkshire. DIED On Saturday last, aged 59, Mr Charles CALLOW, of this place, Calico Manufacturer. On the 18th inst. Mrs Elizabeth WRIGHT, an infirm maiden lady, aged 59, who resided at Snelston, in this county, about 5 o'clock in the evening left her house with an intention of attending a religious meeting in the neighbourhood: she unfortunately missed the footway, and having got into a wheat field, which being very wet and heavy, she was unable to extricate herself, and there perished from the inclemency of the night.

Derby Mercury December 15, 1803 Derby, Wednesday December 14 MARRIED At Ashborne, in this county, on Wednesday the 7th inst. Mr J WEBSTER, jun. of Smirrill, to Miss GALLIMORE, of the former place. DIED On Thursday last, Mr Francis BRENTNALL, of this town, grocer, in his 47th year. At Chapel-en-le-Frith, in this county, the 2d instant, Mr John M'KNAUGHT, in the 19th year of his age; universally beloved by all who had the pleasure of his acquaintance.

Derby Mercury December 8, 1803 Derby, Wednesday December 7 DIED At Edensor, in this county, the Rev. James PEAKE, M.A. Domestic Chaplain to his Grace the Duke of Devonshire, Rector of Kingsley, in the county of Stafford, minister of Edensor, and of Cartmel, in the county of Lancaster. At Wirksworth, on Wednesday last, aged 80, Mrs. Blackwall, relict of the late Rev. Thomas BLACKWALL, rector of Muggington, in this county. On Thursday last in the 72nd year of his age, Robert WRIGHT Esq. of Great Longstone, one of his Majesty's Justices of the Peace for this county. On Thursday last, at Brassington, in this county, in her 84th year, respected by her friends and acquaintance, Mrs PRESTWIDGE, relict of the late Mr John PRESTWIDGE, of that place. On Thursday last at Ardley, near Longford, in this county, aged 67, Mr Thomas WILKINS, steward to Edward COKE, Esq. in which situation he and his father had served that family upwards of a century with integrity and credit. He was kind to the poor, a sincere friend, and good companion; his death therefore will be regretted by a large circle of acquaintance. On Friday last, after a long illness, in the 20th year of his age, Mr John BROWNSON, eldest son of |Mr BROWNSON, of Allsop in the Dale, in this county,-" The fairest Blossoms ripen and decay the soonest." On Friday last, aged 78 years, Mrs BANCROFT, of this place. Sudden death- on Sunday night last, aged 67, Mr John TURNER, shopman to the late Mr TURNER and Mr PARKER, silversmiths, more than 40 years. He went to bed on the above evening, in apparent health and spirits as usual, -the next morning was found, a lifeless corpse.

Derby Mercury December 1, 1803 Derby, Wednesday November 30 MARRIED Monday last, Mr George BOWNES, grocer, of Crich, in this county, to Miss Mary HUDSON, daughter of Mr James HUDSON, of this town. DIED Monday the 28th inst. at Wingerworth in this county, of a decline, Miss Anne HUNLOKE, fourth daughter of Sir Henry HUNLOKE, Bart. On Wednesday last, at Alfreton, in this county, Mr James WILSON, plumber and glazier. At Kedleston, in this county, on Friday night last, Mrs HUMPSTON, aged 79. Thursday, at his father's house in North street, at the age of six years, Master Richard HINGSTON, whose death was occasioned by swallowing a brass nail, which, by entering his wind pipe, brought on suffocation. A serious caution to parents, to discourage, as much as possible, the putting of any sort of plaything in the mouth.

Derby Mercury November 24, 1803 Derby, Wednesday, 23 DIED Yesterday morning, at Bradby, in this county, aged 16, Lady Harriet STANHOPE, eldest daughter of the Right Hon. Earl Chesterfield. On Saturday last, after a long illness, aged 74, William Leaper SMITH, Esq. of this town. On Sunday se'nnight, Miss WRIGHT, daughter of Mr Wm. WRIGHT, of Strines, in this county. On the 17th inst. Thomas STENSON, a collier, accidently fell into one of the coal pits at West Hallam, in this county, and was unfortunately killed.

Derby Mercury November 17, 1803 Derby, Wednesday, November 16 MARRIED On Sunday se'nnight, mr Thomas FEUSDALE, Builer, in the Wicker, to Miss Sarah MARSHAL, only daughter of Mr Charles MARSHAL, of Snig Hill, in Sheffield. DIED On the 27th ult. aged 77, Mr TATEHAM, of Tibshelf, in this county, maltster

Derby Mercury 10 November 1803 Derby,Wednesday, November 9 MARRIED Saturday, at St Martin's Church, in Birmingham, Mr Edward BOUGHTON, of Claines, Worcestershire, to Miss Elizabeth ORGILL, of Thorntree, in this county. On Monday se'nnight, Mr Philip UNWIN, to Miss WAINWRIGHT, both of Sheffield. Lately, Mr BOWER, surgeon, of Sheffield, to Miss WARBURTON, daughter of Mr Samuel WARBURTON, of Bridgehouses. A few days since, at the Quakers' Meeting House, in Leeds, Mr Josiah FAIRBANK, of Sheffield, land surveyor, to Miss CARBUT, daughter of Mr F. CARBUT, of the former place, merchant. DIED On Thursday last at Heanor, in this county, in the 58th year of his age, John SUTTON, gent. much respected by all who knew him. On Sunday se'nnight, Mr John BLUNSTONE, of Risley, in this county, aged 48. On Monday se'nnight, Miss Ann WIGLEY, daughter of the late Rev. Benj. WIGLEY, of Sawley, in this county. On Saturday last, aged 36, Mr David COLLUMBELL, of this town, tailor and habit-maker. Committed to the county gaol since our last, Thomas CHADWICK, charged with stealing one turkey, the property of Joseph MELLOR.

Derby Mercury 3 November Derby, Wednesday, November 2 MARRIED On Monday se'nnight, Mr GREASLEY, hosier, Nottingham, to Miss Cassandra PEARSON, daughter of Mr Andrew PEARSON, bleacher of Basford. On Tuesday se'nnight, at Measham, in this county, Mr STEVENSON of Snareston, to Miss JEWSBURY, of the former place. Yesterday at Burton -upon-Trent, Mr TRAFFORD, of this town, to Miss MARTIN, of the former place. DIED Wednesday last, Mr TILLOTSON, merchant, of Coalpit-lane, in Sheffield.

You are all more than welcome! Jane in Redcar -----Original Message----- From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lcsearch3528@aol.com Sent: 29 May 2013 10:35 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DBY] Derby Mercury Thank you Hi Jane Thank you for all these most interesting posts. Lin In a message dated 29/05/2013 10:24:45 GMT Daylight Time, janetaylor21@ntlworld.com writes: Hopefully more to follow if time allows! Derby Mercury Thursday 27th October 1803 Wednesday 26 October MARRIED Yesterday, at All Saints church, Mr Thomas COX, to Miss Ann LLOYD, both of this place. On the 18th inst at St Ive's, Huntingdonshire, Mr Francis HOLLIWELL, watchmaker, of this town, to Miss E BENNETT, daughter of the late Rev. Abraham BENNETT, formerly of Wirksworth, in this county. DIED On Saturday last, 63, Mr James TOMLINSON, of this town. On the 15th inst, to Derby gaol, a girl about 13 years of age, on suspicion, and also on her own confession with having on the 13th instant set fire to a barn belonging to Mr Wm. Booth, of Pentridge, in this county, wherein was contained ten wagon loads of corn; -and on the 21st inst. John TIMMONS, charged upon oath with burgulariously breaking open the dwelling-house of Mr David PEARSON, of Peak Forest, on the night of the 8th or on the morning of the 9th instant, and stealing thereout sundry articles of wearing apparel. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3343 / Virus Database: 3184/6364 - Release Date: 05/28/13

Thank you Nivard, you are correct in your assumptions, and it seems that James Horace RAMSEY and Horace James RAMSAY are the same person. Can't wait to tell my Mum and Dad about the rogue in the family (if only by marriage). Still can't find Flora/Florry RAMSAY (nee HOLMES) or her two children after 1901 Jon Cantrill -- My family tree - RootsWeb's WorldConnect Project: C A N T R I L L http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=astridhq

Hopefully more to follow if time allows! Derby Mercury Thursday 27th October 1803 Wednesday 26 October MARRIED Yesterday, at All Saints church, Mr Thomas COX, to Miss Ann LLOYD, both of this place. On the 18th inst at St Ive's, Huntingdonshire, Mr Francis HOLLIWELL, watchmaker, of this town, to Miss E BENNETT, daughter of the late Rev. Abraham BENNETT, formerly of Wirksworth, in this county. DIED On Saturday last, 63, Mr James TOMLINSON, of this town. On the 15th inst, to Derby gaol, a girl about 13 years of age, on suspicion, and also on her own confession with having on the 13th instant set fire to a barn belonging to Mr Wm. Booth, of Pentridge, in this county, wherein was contained ten wagon loads of corn; -and on the 21st inst. John TIMMONS, charged upon oath with burgulariously breaking open the dwelling-house of Mr David PEARSON, of Peak Forest, on the night of the 8th or on the morning of the 9th instant, and stealing thereout sundry articles of wearing apparel.

Derby Mercury Thursday 20th October 1803 Derby, Wednesday 19 October MARRIED On Tuesday, Mr David ADLINGTON, jun. to Miss Mary CLAY, both of Northwingfield, in this county. On Thursday last at Sutton, in Scarsdale, in this county, Mr Robert HARDY, game-keeper, to C. KYNNERSLEY Esq. of Sutton Hall, to Miss Lydia WILBORN, of Calow, near Chesterfield. Yesterday at Muggington in this county, Mr James CARR of Ravensdale Park, to Miss OLDGATE of Hulland Ward. DIED On Monday se'nnight, at the house of the Rev. John BARKER, of Baslow, in this county, Elizabeth WHYTE, daughter of the late Mr. WHYTE, of Liverpool, and sister of Mrs. BARKER. On Thursday evening last, Richard MILNES, Esq. of Sandybrook, near Ashbourne, in this county, late of Granby Row , in Manchester. On Saturday last, at Mr LINNETT's, in Full street. Mrs WILKINSON, a maiden lady, aged 76. At Quarndon, near this place, on Sunday last, Mr FROST, aged 77. A few days since, Mr David HARRISON, of Doveridge, in this county, schoolmaster.

Derby Mercury 13th October 1803 Derby, Wednesday 12 October MARRIED On Thursday last, by the Rev. Bernard PORT, the Rev. Brownlow Villiers LAYARD (not clear sic), daughter of John PORT, Esq. of this place. At Eckington, on Friday, Mr John ROTHERHAM, farmer, of Mosbro' to Miss COOPER, daughter of Mr COOPER, of the same place. On Friday se'nnight, Mr Paul JACKSON, of Newark, to Miss Sarah CRESWICK, daughter of Mr James CRESWICK, paper manufacturer, of Sheffield. DIED At Buxton, on Tuesday se'nnight, of a typhus fever, in the 43rd year of his age, Mr Thomas TAYLOR, late a merchant of Liverpool. Yesterday, of an apoplexy, Mrs WHEELDON, aged 36, wife of Mr George WHEELDON, merchant, of this town; much regretted. Last week, much respected, Mr. Tho. BARKER, of Cowdale, in this county; also a few days afterwards, Mrs BARKER, his widow. On Friday last, at Osmaston, near this place, aged 31, Mrs WALTERS, wife of Mr John WALTERS, of that place, farmer. On the 6th inst. as George DAVIS, a workman employed at the local coal pits at Codnor park, in this county, was receiving a carriage loaden with cols at the mouth of one of the pits, the rope accidently broke, by which means the unfortunate man was precipitated to the bottom and killed on the spot.

Derby Mercury Thursday, October 6th, 1803 Derby, Wednesday 5th October DIED A few days ago, far advanced in years, Mrs WHEELDON, of Buxton, formerly of the Whiter Hart Inn, at that place. Last week, at Norton, Mrs FORD, relict of the late Hugh FORD, Esq. of Leek. On the 30th ult. as William TWELLS, a collier employed at the local coal pit at Ilkestone, in this county, was descending into one of the pits, the carriage suddenly gave way and precipitated the unfortunate man to the bottom, (about 30 yards.) He was most terribly bruised, and survived only two days, leaving a wife and seven children. A few days since a fire broke out in a barn belonging to Mr William BOOTH, at Pentridge, in this county, which happily was extinguished before much of the property was consumed.- We are sorry to state the Mr Robert MARSDEN, a considerable farmer of that place, as he was assisting to remove some thatch from the flames, suddenly fell down and instantly expired.

Derby Mercury September 29 1803 Wednesday September 28, Derby MARRIED On Wednesday last at Glossop, in this county, Mr William KERSHAW, to Miss ROBINSON, only daughter of Mr George ROBINSON, both of Charles-town near Glossop. On Wednesday, Mr Robert ROWBOTHAM, Silverplater, to Miss Elizabeth WOOD, both of Sheffield. On Saturday, se'nnight, between eight and nine o'clock in the evening, Mrs ANDREWS, who keeps cows and lives on Sheffield Moor, locked up her house and went to Sheffield market. On her return she found that it had been broken open, and her hoard, consisting of upwards of ninety guineas in gold and some notes carried away.

Derby Mercury Thursday 22 September 1803 Derby, Wednesday 21 September MARRIED On Saturday last, at Chaddesden, near this place, Mr BAYLEY, Mercer and Draper, of this town, to Miss HOLLAND, of the former place. DIED On Saturday last at Holbrooke, in this county, aged 60, sincerely and deservedly lamented by her family and friends, Mrs RADFORD, relict of the late Mr. RADFORD, of Hill-Top near Horsley- Woodhouse. A few days since. Thomas SIMES, an insane pauper, drowned himself at Duffield, near this place. On the 15th inst. at Osmaston, near Ashborne, Ann BEAM, a poor woman aged 84 years, by a fall dislocated her neck and immediately expired. The same day at Codnor park, William MEEKE, a boy aged 13 years, was killed in a coal pit; and at Ilkeston, a child aged 18 months was accidently drowned in the canal.

Derby Mercury Thursday 15 September 1803 Derby, Wednesday, September 14 BIRTH On Tuesday se'nnight, in Stafford, the lady of Captain DEARDEN, of the 6th Inniskilling Dragoons, of a son and heir. DIED On Thursday se'nnight, Mr KNUTTON, merchant of Sheffield. On Sunday se'nnight, at Winster, in this county, sincerely regretted by her family and acquaintance, Mrs STONE, wife of Mr STONE, surgeon, aged 34.- And the day following, Jos. STONE, son of the above. Wednesday last, Mrs WHITELOCK, wife of Mr WHITELOCK, silver-plater, of Sheffield. On Wednesday the 7th inst. a melancholy accident happened at Crich, in this county, as MRS TURTON, wife of Mr John TURTON, was attempting to water some linen which lay on the bank of a large fish pond near the house, when the act of lading water, she unfortunately fell in and was drowned;- the dish which she used for the purpose was seen in the pond, which led to a discovery. - The body was not found till two hours after; every means were used to restore her, but without effect.- By her death her husband has lost a virtuous and affectionate wife, her friends a real friend, and the world a true pattern of Christian charity and humility. A few days since a fire broke out in an outhouse belonging to Mr GRATTON, farmer, of North Wingfield, in this county, which consumed a quantity of old wheat, flour and bacon. It is supposed to have been occasioned by a spark flying through a hole in the kitchen chimney, which ajoined the building. Christenings. - There were upwards of thirty christenings in the parish church of Wirksworth, in this county, on Sunday last.

A few BMD. More to follow Jane in Redcar Derby Mercury Thursday 8th September Derby Wednesday 7th September 1803 MARRIED On Thursday se`nnight, at Matlock, in this county, Lieut. BOOTH, of the 76th Regiment, to Miss RAWLINSON. A few days ago; Lieutenant WILDING, of the Staffordshire Militia, to Miss TURNER of Liverpool. On Thursday se'nnight at St Peter's, Nottingham, Mr ADAMS, hosier, to Miss STEEVENS, second daughter of Robert STEEVENS, gent. of Loughborough. On Saturday se'nnight, at St Mary's, Nottingham, Mr BARLOW, merchant of Leicester, to Miss CAUNT, eldest daughter of the late Mr. Alderman CAUNT, of the former place. On Wednesday last, Walter STRICKLAND, Esq., son of Sir George STRICKLAND, Bart. of Boynton, Yorkshire, to Miss WESTERN, youngest daughter of the late Maximillian WESTERN, Esq. of Cokethorpe, Oxfordshire. On the 17th ult. Thomas FREEMAN, formerly of Leeds, but now of Wakefield, aged seventy, to Sarah PRESTON, aged eighty four. An amour has subsisted betwixt this tender pair for seventeen years, and though about two years ago the rogue Cupid, in one of his frolics, had dashed the cup of bliss from their lips, yet all-subduing Love prevailed, and, a few days previous to the marriage, Venus, eloping from the workhouse, flew with rapture to the arms of her conquering Adonis, and implored Hymen to unite their future destinies. Even the Gods cannot resist the fair! The petition was granted. DIED On the 25th ult. in London, Mrs BARTON, sister of E.M. MUNDY, Esq. M.P. for this county.-Her remains were interred at Heanor, near this place, on Saturday last. On Wednesday night the 31st ult. much regretted, Henry HUNTER, Esq. of Kilburne, in this county. At Clifton, near Bristol, the Lady of Capt. BURDETT, of the Royal Navy. on Monday se'nnight at his house in Nottingham, the Rev. Abel Collin LAUNDER, rector of Clifton and Elton, in Nottinghamshire. On Tuesday se'nnight, Mr William NAYLOR, a young local preacher of very promising talents, among the Methodists in Sheffield, and son of Mr NAYLOR in Angel Street. On Tuesday, aged, 87, Mr LIGHTWOOD, of Yoxall. Thursday, Mrs FINCH, wife of Mr W FINCH, of Bordesley, and daughter of the Rev. Dr. PRIESTLEY. On Sunday evening last, suddenly, aged 48, Mr James WITHERS, of the Marquis of Granby Public-house, in this town;- after coming out of the cellar with some ale, he sat himself down and expired immediately .

Hi Jane Thank you for all these most interesting posts. Lin In a message dated 29/05/2013 10:24:45 GMT Daylight Time, janetaylor21@ntlworld.com writes: Hopefully more to follow if time allows! Derby Mercury Thursday 27th October 1803 Wednesday 26 October MARRIED Yesterday, at All Saints church, Mr Thomas COX, to Miss Ann LLOYD, both of this place. On the 18th inst at St Ive's, Huntingdonshire, Mr Francis HOLLIWELL, watchmaker, of this town, to Miss E BENNETT, daughter of the late Rev. Abraham BENNETT, formerly of Wirksworth, in this county. DIED On Saturday last, 63, Mr James TOMLINSON, of this town. On the 15th inst, to Derby gaol, a girl about 13 years of age, on suspicion, and also on her own confession with having on the 13th instant set fire to a barn belonging to Mr Wm. Booth, of Pentridge, in this county, wherein was contained ten wagon loads of corn; -and on the 21st inst. John TIMMONS, charged upon oath with burgulariously breaking open the dwelling-house of Mr David PEARSON, of Peak Forest, on the night of the 8th or on the morning of the 9th instant, and stealing thereout sundry articles of wearing apparel. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message