Could someone explain how / where to find bastardy records? I have a Mary Higget Wildgoose, daughter of Elizabeth Wildgoose of Crich, born in 1798 in Crich. I presume there is a Higget lurking around somewhere. Many thanks Alison Merricks

Hi All I am interested in STURGES(S) in the Repton, Ticknall and Newton Solney area. Benjamin appears to be a favoured family Christian name. My husband's earliest ancestor on this branch is Benjamin STURGES born about 1710 and died May 1779 - buried in Newton Solney on May 31st. He married Hannah TARR - one for the Ts - on 15 July 1733 in Repton. On 12 Sept 1733 there is a Settlement Certificate for them from Newton Solney to Ticknall. Three of their 8 children were born in Ticknall, the rest later in Newton Solney. I have no other details of Hannah - not even her burial - except as a mother on the baptism records of the children. Any details of STURGESS in this area or TARR? I have details of some STURGESS families including some apprenticeship details but they don't fit together!! Geraldine Researching in Derbys: EVANS, GOODMAN, HARRISON, LEEDHAM, STATHAM, WALTON, WILTON, YEOMANS -----Original Message----- From: Charani Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 12:00 AM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY] Brickwall demolition - S & T Anyone stuck on surnames beginning with S or T? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Being something of an optimist I thought I would post some brief details of a SMITH family about whom I would like to know more. Ann SMITH married George Roberts at St Peters, Derby on 15th May 1815. Both came from Cubley, Ann's baptism being on 2nd July 1797. I believe that Ann's father was James SMITH, who was born around 1758 (I have found a burial in Cubley of a James Smith aged 86 on 2nd October 1844). At the time of the 1841 census James was a farmer at Cubley Hollies, with George and Ann and some of their children living with him there. I have also come across a settlement certificate for a James and Sophia Smith from Snelston to Cubley in 1784. Unfortunately I'm unlikely to be able to visit DRO any time soon to check the Snelston PRs. If anyone has any further information on James Smith or his family I would be really pleased to hear from them. Thanks Andy

Try this email address: tipper@one-name,org Chris has plenty of information. Barbara At 11:26 03/06/2013, you wrote: >Desperately Seeking → TIPPER Any in >Derbyshire and Staffordshire... please☺ Martin >Jackson, in a scorching Central Portugal ----

On 2013/06/03 12:13, Gill Salt wrote: > Salt family from wirksworth around 1700s please. And I've got the SOULT variation of this - mainly from the Ripley area. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Hi List, Looking for parents, ancestors, and more information on Abijah TYRRELL (1760-1838). This is what I do know: Born: 1760 in Derby; Died: 1838 in Derby Married: Amy WEDGEWOOD, 22 Oct 1782 in St. Alkmund's parish in Derby Children all born in Derby: Sarah (1783), Hannah (1785), Abijah Jr. (1787), Arthur (1790), Jonathan (1792), Charles (1795) and Elizabeth (1797). Also looking for any information on his wife, Amy WEDGEWOOD. I only have her name from the marriage record. Abijah TYRRELL, Jr. (1787-1864), born and died in Derby, married Hannah TETLEY 3 Jun 1817 in St. Alkmund's parish in Derby. She was born about 1790 in Coleorton, Leicestershire, and was supposedly from the TETLEY tea family. I am also looking for information on her parents and ancestors. Thanks in advance. Winston Cochrane Maineville, OH, USA

After a decade plus of searching and with the kind help of a fellow researcher the mystery of my ggg grandfather's confusing name of Wood / Willmott ( various spellings) was unravelled. It appears that he was born a Wood but his mother eventually married his father. Is anyone out there related to either William Towndrow or THomas Williamott as per the info below? I would love to learn about their families, particularly Thomas Williamott as he seems to have married another around the time Hannah gave birth. Unfortunately I can't remember or find the actual date. I had put this research away until the list came up with the great idea of working through the alphabet to research brick walls. When his wife died he then married Hannah Wood. How many of these children were his? Other than the first child it appears that Elizabeth and George, my direct relative, were but I don't know about Hannah b.1798. Here's hoping someone else is pursuing the same families. Many thanks. Noreen Hannah married Thomas Wilmott 4 July 1798 in Ashover. ASHOVER Bastardy 47 Hannah WOOD, William TOWNDROW and his surety 1790 53 Hannah WOOD, Thomas WILLIAMOTT 1793 Plus the following baptisms in Ashover Name: Mary Wood Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 18 Feb 1790 Baptism/Christening Place: Ashover, Derbyshire, England Birth Date: 13 Feb 1790 Father's Name: Mother's Name: Hannah Wood Name: Elizabeth Wood Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 02 Dec 1792 Baptism/Christening Place: Ashover, Derbyshire, England Birth Date: 25 Nov 1792 Father's Name: Mother's Name: Hannah Wood Name: George Wood Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 26 Oct 1794 Baptism/Christening Place: Ashover, Derbyshire, England Birth Date: 02 Oct 1794 Father's Name: Mother's Name: Hannah Wood Name: Hannah Wood Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 18 Mar 1798 Baptism/Christening Place: Ashover, Derbyshire, England Birth Date: 02 Dec 1797 Father's Name: Mother's Name: Hannah Wood

Hi Andy I located the marriage in the Peak Forest Chapel in Familysearch. Peak Forest Chapel is a peculiar and was not subject to or diregarded the marriage act, and therefore people came from all over to get married. A local Gretna Green! I sent for the Photocopy. It gave me:- Jacob Hadfield & Hannah Oxley Dec er ye 18th Underneath the name of Hannah Oxley it said Stockport The page was ruled for the date, all the months seemed to be abreviated, and it did not state where Jacob Hadfield came from. Most of the Brides birthplaces seemed to be listed, and fewer of the Grooms Some of the areas were Yorkshire,Youlgreave, Leek, Sheffield, Stockport,Glossop, Youlgreave again in just the eight records that were on my phootcopy. this was part of a page for the year of 1750. I have had a previous case of a marriage in 1738 William Gould and Ellen Bagot - where he was of Elkstone Alstonfield, Staffs and she of Idridgehay, Derbyshire. That one had taken a long time to find, and when I did find it I wondered how those two could have met...until I looked at a map and saw both had direct roads, well almost, to Ashbourne - an active market andbarracks town. The photocopy did not cost me. Hope this is helpful Hilary

Desperately Seeking → TIPPER Any in Derbyshire and Staffordshire... please☺ Martin Jackson, in a scorching Central Portugal -----Original Message----- From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charani Sent: 03 June 2013 00:00 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY] Brickwall demolition - S & T Anyone stuck on surnames beginning with S or T? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Salt family from wirksworth around 1700s please. Gill Sent from my iPad On 3 Jun 2013, at 00:00, Charani <charani.b@gmail.com> wrote: > Anyone stuck on surnames beginning with S or T? > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, > Greinton and Clutton, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Yes I have two brickwalls beginning with S Molly / Malley / Mary SIKES married Joseph HALL at Glossop parish church on 29 Aug 1790 (Molly) Under the name Malley or Mary she had 6 children 1793 - 1805, baptised at St Mary's Independent Glossop. They were said to be of Rowarth on these records. I am trying lo locate Molly/Malley/Mary SIKE's baptism and parents Secondly Mary SHEPLEY of Glossop married George BOWKER of the parish of Manchester at Glossop Parish Church 16.6.1764 They had a number of children first in Haughton, Lancs then Ashton under Lyne Lancs. Likewise I am trying to locate a baptism and parents for Mary SHEPLEY Thanks Bob -----Original Message----- From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charani Sent: 03 June 2013 00:00 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY] Brickwall demolition - S & T Anyone stuck on surnames beginning with S or T? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Hilary Thanks for the detail - I was aware of Peak Forest's peculiar status. I've a couple of Micklethwaites married there. As it's so cheap (!) and might have some location info, I'll give it a go. Best Wishes, Andy. At 04:54 03/06/2013, you wrote: >Hi Andy > >I located the marriage in the Peak Forest Chapel in Familysearch. Peak >Forest Chapel is a peculiar and was not subject to or diregarded the >marriage act, and therefore people came from all over >to get married. A local Gretna Green! I sent for the Photocopy. > >It gave me:- >Jacob Hadfield & Hannah Oxley Dec er ye 18th > Underneath the name of Hannah Oxley it said Stockport > >The page was ruled for the date, all the months seemed to be abreviated, >and it did not state where Jacob Hadfield came from. Most of the Brides >birthplaces seemed to be listed, and fewer of the >Grooms Some of the areas were Yorkshire,Youlgreave, Leek, Sheffield, >Stockport,Glossop, Youlgreave again in just the eight records that were on >my phootcopy. this was part of a page for the year of 1750. > >I have had a previous case of a marriage in 1738 William Gould and Ellen >Bagot - where he was of Elkstone Alstonfield, Staffs and she of >Idridgehay, Derbyshire. That one had taken a long time to find, and when I >did find it I wondered how those two could have met...until I looked at a >map and saw both had direct roads, well almost, to Ashbourne - an active >market andbarracks town. > >The photocopy did not cost me. Hope this is helpful > >Hilary > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anyone stuck on surnames beginning with S or T? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

At 11:13 01/06/2013, Hilary wrote: >I obtained a copy of a marriage from Peak Forest Chapel. The marriage of >JACOB HATFIELD with HANNAH OXLEY in 1750 Hannah Oxley was of Stockport. Hilary Not researching those names, but I do have a couple of Peak Forest marriages in my ONS. What info is recorded for the marriages there? I guess from your description just names of bride and groom and residence. Andy.

yes, any Tomlinsons? Thanks. Anne Boston, MA -----Original Message----- From: Charani <charani.b@gmail.com> To: derbysgen <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Jun 2, 2013 7:03 pm Subject: [DBY] Brickwall demolition - S & T Anyone stuck on surnames beginning with S or T? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As always, William SHARLEY for whom I cant find a birth/christening in the general time frame of 1802ish. I have him documented from his marriage to his death but nothing prior to 1827 Sally in USA On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Charani <charani.b@gmail.com> wrote: > Anyone stuck on surnames beginning with S or T? > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, > Greinton and Clutton, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Always interested in the name SPENCER in the New Mills, Hayfield etc area. In the early 1800's All my best in your own search. Mike Morris Toronto Canada >________________________________ > From: Charani <charani.b@gmail.com> >To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com >Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2013 7:00:05 PM >Anyone stuck on surnames beginning with S or T? <snip> > >- >

Thank you I will try that Regards Peter Sent from my iPhone On 2 Jun 2013, at 13:24, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Peter > > Well it does not look like the usual MID Oak Leaf > > And I don't recall seeing the Oak Leaf with a date on it > > I wonder if it is an association badge ? > > The Long Long Trail is probably the best place to ask > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 02/06/2013 12:26, Peter Patilla wrote: >> Nivard >> I will send photo off list >> It was in a framed photo with his two medals the British War and Victory medals (plus photo of himself) >> What is also odd (on my double checking) is his attestation date of 8:12:15 when the date on the clasp is 20:8:15?? >> I feel another unsolvable oddity rearing its head >> Peter > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Peter Well it does not look like the usual MID Oak Leaf And I don't recall seeing the Oak Leaf with a date on it I wonder if it is an association badge ? The Long Long Trail is probably the best place to ask Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 02/06/2013 12:26, Peter Patilla wrote: > Nivard > I will send photo off list > It was in a framed photo with his two medals the British War and Victory medals (plus photo of himself) > What is also odd (on my double checking) is his attestation date of 8:12:15 when the date on the clasp is 20:8:15?? > I feel another unsolvable oddity rearing its head > Peter

Nivard I will send photo off list It was in a framed photo with his two medals the British War and Victory medals (plus photo of himself) What is also odd (on my double checking) is his attestation date of 8:12:15 when the date on the clasp is 20:8:15?? I feel another unsolvable oddity rearing its head Peter On 2 Jun 2013, at 10:26, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Peter > > I am not aware of an official clasp for Ypres or so dated > > There is an earlier clasp to the 1914 Star dated 5th August - 22nd > November 1914 > > Which shows that the recipient had actually served under fire in that period > > What medal did you find it with? > > Do you have a picture > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 02/06/2013 10:06, Peter Patilla wrote: >> Morning all >> On of my WWI soldiers has, with his medals, a small leaf shaped clasp which has the inscription YPRES 20:8:15 >> Not seen this before >> Do not think it a "sweetheart clasp" >> Any ideas welcomed. >> Peter > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message