Hi Barbara, I am not aware of any Connection to the Duffied Slaters, but of course there could be one somewhere. I know of about 3 different SLATER lines aound that part of Derbyshire. You didn't give any dates, my Joseph was born around 1703, son of Joseph SLAYER b 1673, S of Gilbert Slater who married Mary WRAGGE in 1672. These are all of Boyleston. Both of these had sons and I would need to follow their lines down, Sarah could have been a daughter of one of them. However I am not aware of the PARSON name either appearing in my Slater line. regards Hilary Message: 2 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 08:34:14 +0100 (BST) From: BARBARA WINDER <barbara.osbiston@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [DBY] S for SLATER To: "derbysgen@rootsweb.com" <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1370331254.28881.YahooMailNeo@web171501.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Has he any links to the Slaters of Hazlewood near Duffied? My great grandmother (times 5) on both my paternal OSBISTON lines was Sarah SLATER?-and her father was THOMAS PARSON SLATER. I've lots on them. She was a wheelwright and farmer. Barbara?

Hi Jo There's a bit of info at this website, (Peak District mining) http://www.pdmhs.com/ There's mention of a Well Grove Mine on page 59 of Ron Slack's book, which can be downloaded from the site. Possibly there's more info in other chapters of the book. By consulting the map at the beginning you'll be able to see whereabouts the mine was. Hope this helps Joan -----Original Message----- From: Jo Elliott Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 9:09 PM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY] Henry Elliott/Well Groove Mine. I've just obtained a will for Henry Elliott, Wirksworth dated 1818. In it he says: "Also I give and Devise unto my son Henry Elliott my share of the Well Groove Mine in the Liberty of Wirksworth" I have tried to find some reference to this mine but had no success.Does anyone have any ideas? Please. Jo ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Alison, It is run by the same person, but there maybe other details not in the website. Also, some one namers research spouses for completeness. It's worth an email at any rate. Good luck! Regards Julie Sent from my iPhone  On 4 Jun 2013, at 20:13, Alison <aliqot@aol.com> wrote: > Hello Julie, > > I've made use The Gaggle of Geese website at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~willgooseweb/ > Will check the one name study, but it may be the same person. In any > case, it's the Higgett that poses the problem. Thanks for your > suggestion. > > Alison > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Julie Goucher <anglers.rest@virgin.net> > To: derbysgen <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 19:21 > Subject: Re: [DBY] HIGGET WILDGOOSE > > > Hello, Have you tried the Wildgoose one name study? You could contact > the registrant at wildgoose@one-name.orgAlso have a look at the Guild > website www.one-name.orgRegardsJulieSent from my iPhone On 4 Jun 2013, > at 18:11, Peter Patilla <ppatilla@me.com> wrote:> Alison> Just in case, > I will state what you may have tried. On my www.crichparish.co.uk site > under church records BMD Hart-Hill sections are lots of possible men> > Peter> > On 4 Jun 2013, at 17:55, Peter Patilla wrote:> >> Alison>> Had > a quick poke around my records>> I have Mary (Higgot) Wildgoose bapt to > Elizabeth Wildgoose (spurious) 14 Oct 1798.>> >> I have Elizabeth > Wildgoose baptised 11 Oct 1771 (possible) and two others bapt in October > 1884 ; also one in Feb 1787 (possible if late baptism)>> There are > Higet/Higgate/Higgett/Higgott/ and other variations aplenty in the > records>> >> Cannot find an entry in the bastardy records for Crich>> >> > Looking for marriages around this time I can only find Elizabeth > Wildgoose to John Twigg on 18 Nov 1805 (both of Tansley)>> >> Sorry > could not be more helpful>> Regards>> Peter>> >> >> >> On 4 Jun 2013, at > 06:49, Aliqot wrote:>> >>> >>> Could someone explain how / where to find > bastardy records? I have a Mary Higget Wildgoose, daughter of > Elizabeth Wildgoose of Crich, born in 1798 in Crich. >>> >>> I presume > there is a Higget lurking around somewhere.>>> >>> Many thanks>>> >>> > Alison Merricks>>> -------------------------------To unsubscribe from > the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi. As Julie suggested for Wildgoose, you might also try the Higgett one name study on the same website. Barbara At 18:26 04/06/2013, you wrote: >Hello, Have you tried the Wildgoose one name study? You could >contact the registrant at wildgoose@one-name.org Also have a look at >the Guild website www.one-name.org Regards Julie S

Hi All, Totally stuck looking for birth/parents of Benjamin Torr b 1792 Hathersage. DRO no records for him 1785-1801. He married Hannah Whyatt in Manchester 1825, had 6 children 1825-1848. Found a burial for a Benjamin Torr in Hathersage 30 Aug 1822 aged 49 but can't verify he was father of 1792 born Benjamin. Found a marriage by Licence in Hathersage 17 May 1792, Robert Torr & Ann Frost (possibly pregnant)? can't find any birth. Witness for Licence application (in Edale) & marriage, John Wilkin. Also found a Removal Order Ann Frost, pregnant, from Hathersage to Thornsett in 1790. Waiting reply on this from Michael Spencer, if Order gives her age (30 at marriage) I can see if it might be the same person. The baby was a boy, but father was Thos. Brown. If anyone has any of these on their trees or any suggestions, I would be very grateful, as I might then be able to eliminate red herrings! I am intrigued to find out about my Derbyshire ancestors. Regards, Kathy in Kent > Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 00:00:05 +0100 > From: charani.b@gmail.com > To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DBY] Brickwall demolition - S & T > > Anyone stuck on surnames beginning with S or T? > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, > Greinton and Clutton, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've just obtained a will for Henry Elliott, Wirksworth dated 1818. In it he says: "Also I give and Devise unto my son Henry Elliott my share of the Well Groove Mine in the Liberty of Wirksworth" I have tried to find some reference to this mine but had no success.Does anyone have any ideas? Please. Jo

Hello, Have you tried the Wildgoose one name study? You could contact the registrant at wildgoose@one-name.org Also have a look at the Guild website www.one-name.org Regards Julie Sent from my iPhone  On 4 Jun 2013, at 18:11, Peter Patilla <ppatilla@me.com> wrote: > Alison > Just in case, I will state what you may have tried. On my www.crichparish.co.uk site under church records BMD Hart-Hill sections are lots of possible men > Peter > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 17:55, Peter Patilla wrote: > >> Alison >> Had a quick poke around my records >> I have Mary (Higgot) Wildgoose bapt to Elizabeth Wildgoose (spurious) 14 Oct 1798. >> >> I have Elizabeth Wildgoose baptised 11 Oct 1771 (possible) and two others bapt in October 1884 ; also one in Feb 1787 (possible if late baptism) >> There are Higet/Higgate/Higgett/Higgott/ and other variations aplenty in the records >> >> Cannot find an entry in the bastardy records for Crich >> >> Looking for marriages around this time I can only find Elizabeth Wildgoose to John Twigg on 18 Nov 1805 (both of Tansley) >> >> Sorry could not be more helpful >> Regards >> Peter >> >> >> >> On 4 Jun 2013, at 06:49, Aliqot wrote: >> >>> >>> Could someone explain how / where to find bastardy records? I have a Mary Higget Wildgoose, daughter of Elizabeth Wildgoose of Crich, born in 1798 in Crich. >>> >>> I presume there is a Higget lurking around somewhere. >>> >>> Many thanks >>> >>> Alison Merricks >>>

Alison Just in case, I will state what you may have tried. On my www.crichparish.co.uk site under church records BMD Hart-Hill sections are lots of possible men Peter On 4 Jun 2013, at 17:55, Peter Patilla wrote: > Alison > Had a quick poke around my records > I have Mary (Higgot) Wildgoose bapt to Elizabeth Wildgoose (spurious) 14 Oct 1798. > > I have Elizabeth Wildgoose baptised 11 Oct 1771 (possible) and two others bapt in October 1884 ; also one in Feb 1787 (possible if late baptism) > There are Higet/Higgate/Higgett/Higgott/ and other variations aplenty in the records > > Cannot find an entry in the bastardy records for Crich > > Looking for marriages around this time I can only find Elizabeth Wildgoose to John Twigg on 18 Nov 1805 (both of Tansley) > > Sorry could not be more helpful > Regards > Peter > > > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 06:49, Aliqot wrote: > >> >> Could someone explain how / where to find bastardy records? I have a Mary Higget Wildgoose, daughter of Elizabeth Wildgoose of Crich, born in 1798 in Crich. >> >> I presume there is a Higget lurking around somewhere. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Alison Merricks >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John Should have thought of checking your site, especially as quite a few of the soldiers were from Bole Hill area Had a quick look and several interesting items caught my eye. I will delve further after eating my humble repast (had a pleasant lunch at Lea Rhododendron Gardens with other Lea Mills researchers; after changing from shorts on instruction) Peter On 4 Jun 2013, at 10:08, John Palmer wrote: > Hello Peter, > If you click on http://www.wirksworth.org.uk/MENU.htm#search > and enter the words "Lea Mills" in the search box, you will be > presented with 289 mentions of Lea Mills in the Wirksworth > website. If you have the time to trawl through these (in your > panicky shorts under a boiling sun) you may come up with > some connections that you don't yet know about. > Regards, > John Palmer, Dorset, England > Author of Wirksworth website > www.wirksworth.org.uk > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Alison Had a quick poke around my records I have Mary (Higgot) Wildgoose bapt to Elizabeth Wildgoose (spurious) 14 Oct 1798. I have Elizabeth Wildgoose baptised 11 Oct 1771 (possible) and two others bapt in October 1884 ; also one in Feb 1787 (possible if late baptism) There are Higet/Higgate/Higgett/Higgott/ and other variations aplenty in the records Cannot find an entry in the bastardy records for Crich Looking for marriages around this time I can only find Elizabeth Wildgoose to John Twigg on 18 Nov 1805 (both of Tansley) Sorry could not be more helpful Regards Peter On 4 Jun 2013, at 06:49, Aliqot wrote: > > Could someone explain how / where to find bastardy records? I have a Mary Higget Wildgoose, daughter of Elizabeth Wildgoose of Crich, born in 1798 in Crich. > > I presume there is a Higget lurking around somewhere. > > Many thanks > > Alison Merricks > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Julie, I've made use The Gaggle of Geese website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~willgooseweb/ Will check the one name study, but it may be the same person. In any case, it's the Higgett that poses the problem. Thanks for your suggestion. Alison -----Original Message----- From: Julie Goucher <anglers.rest@virgin.net> To: derbysgen <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 19:21 Subject: Re: [DBY] HIGGET WILDGOOSE Hello, Have you tried the Wildgoose one name study? You could contact the registrant at wildgoose@one-name.orgAlso have a look at the Guild website www.one-name.orgRegardsJulieSent from my iPhone On 4 Jun 2013, at 18:11, Peter Patilla <ppatilla@me.com> wrote:> Alison> Just in case, I will state what you may have tried. On my www.crichparish.co.uk site under church records BMD Hart-Hill sections are lots of possible men> Peter> > On 4 Jun 2013, at 17:55, Peter Patilla wrote:> >> Alison>> Had a quick poke around my records>> I have Mary (Higgot) Wildgoose bapt to Elizabeth Wildgoose (spurious) 14 Oct 1798.>> >> I have Elizabeth Wildgoose baptised 11 Oct 1771 (possible) and two others bapt in October 1884 ; also one in Feb 1787 (possible if late baptism)>> There are Higet/Higgate/Higgett/Higgott/ and other variations aplenty in the records>> >> Cannot find an entry in the bastardy records for Crich>> >> Looking for marriages around this time I can only find Elizabeth Wildgoose to John Twigg on 18 Nov 1805 (both of Tansley)>> >> Sorry could not be more helpful>> Regards>> Peter>> >> >> >> On 4 Jun 2013, at 06:49, Aliqot wrote:>> >>> >>> Could someone explain how / where to find bastardy records? I have a Mary Higget Wildgoose, daughter of Elizabeth Wildgoose of Crich, born in 1798 in Crich. >>> >>> I presume there is a Higget lurking around somewhere.>>> >>> Many thanks>>> >>> Alison Merricks>>> -------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Peter, Thank you, I'll check that. It occurs to me that a legacy from an "uncle" John Higgett of Farley was mentioned at one stage, in the 1820s, I think. Perhaps that is where I should look. Alison -----Original Message----- From: Peter Patilla <ppatilla@me.com> To: derbysgen <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 18:12 Subject: Re: [DBY] HIGGET WILDGOOSE AlisonJust in case, I will state what you may have tried. On my www.crichparish.co.uk site under church records BMD Hart-Hill sections are lots of possible menPeterOn 4 Jun 2013, at 17:55, Peter Patilla wrote:> Alison> Had a quick poke around my records> I have Mary (Higgot) Wildgoose bapt to Elizabeth Wildgoose (spurious) 14 Oct 1798.> > I have Elizabeth Wildgoose baptised 11 Oct 1771 (possible) and two others bapt in October 1884 ; also one in Feb 1787 (possible if late baptism)> There are Higet/Higgate/Higgett/Higgott/ and other variations aplenty in the records> > Cannot find an entry in the bastardy records for Crich> > Looking for marriages around this time I can only find Elizabeth Wildgoose to John Twigg on 18 Nov 1805 (both of Tansley)> > Sorry could not be more helpful> Regards> Peter> > > > On 4 Jun 2013, at 06:49, Aliqot wrote:> >> >> Could someone explain how / where to find bastardy records? I have a Mary Higget Wildgoose, daughter of Elizabeth Wildgoose of Crich, born in 1798 in Crich. >> >> I presume there is a Higget lurking around somewhere.>> >> Many thanks>> >> Alison Merricks>> >> ------------------------------->> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Peter, Many thanks - from later census data, I reckon "my" Elizabeth was the one born in 1771. Would love to pin down a Higget (whatever spelling) as the name crops up elsewhere in my research too. Complicated story, involving NUTTALL of Highoredish - I think their family links to yours via SAUNDERS at some point. I'm sure we corresponded about these some years ago! Grateful for your help - at least I know there's nothing in Crich bastardy records. Alison -----Original Message----- From: Peter Patilla <ppatilla@mac.com> To: derbysgen <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 18:00 Subject: Re: [DBY] HIGGET WILDGOOSE AlisonHad a quick poke around my recordsI have Mary (Higgot) Wildgoose bapt to Elizabeth Wildgoose (spurious) 14 Oct 1798.I have Elizabeth Wildgoose baptised 11 Oct 1771 (possible) and two others bapt in October 1884 ; also one in Feb 1787 (possible if late baptism)There are Higet/Higgate/Higgett/Higgott/ and other variations aplenty in the recordsCannot find an entry in the bastardy records for CrichLooking for marriages around this time I can only find Elizabeth Wildgoose to John Twigg on 18 Nov 1805 (both of Tansley)Sorry could not be more helpfulRegardsPeterOn 4 Jun 2013, at 06:49, Aliqot wrote:> > Could someone explain how / where to find bastardy records? I have a Mary Higget Wildgoose, daughter of Elizabeth Wildgoose of Crich, born in 1798 in Crich. > > I presume there is a Higget lurking around somewhere.> > Many thanks> > Alison Merricks> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

THARM --- BULL I am at a complete stop in my research for the origins of a Charlotte BULL. Charlotte is well documented from her marriage in 1847 to her Death in 1889, using GRO and Census Returns. On her Marriage Certificate she is recorded as follows:- "24 May 1847 at Lichfield Registry Office; Thomas THARM of Full Age; Bachelor; Labourer of Stowe Street, Lichfield; son of James THARM, Labourer was Married to Charlotte BULL of Full Age; Spinster of Stowe Street, Lichfield; daughter of William Bull, Labourer. Both signed with their Mark." I note also that on the 1851 Census 'Where Born' is recorded as Derbysh. Ashbourne and age given as 24 On the 1861 Census 'Where Born' is Luton, Derbyshire (which I take to be Luton/Linton in C.Gresley) age given as 34 In both the 1871 and 1881 census, 'Where Born' is 'back' in Ashbourne and aged 40 years and 50 years respectively Charlotte's Death is recorded as aged 60 years in Q4 1889 in Burton-on-Trent ref: 6b 228 I have extensive BULL BMD's from the region from 1538 to the present day and cannot match Charlotte with any William BULL as the father; in fact there are No Charlotte BULL entries that are even a possibility. NOTE: the Charlotte BULL who appears on the 1841 Census as a Female Servant in Sutton-on-the-Hill marries a Joseph CHATTERTON just before the recorded Marriage of 'my' Charlotte, no more being heard of Charlotte and Joseph CHATTERTON though, after their Marriage. Regards, Martin

Hi All, I am searching for the wife of Joseph SLATER of Boyleston. He married a lady with the first name of Mary, but as we cannot find the marriage, I don't know her surname. They started having children in about 1724. Joseph was born in Sutton on the Hill, his mother came from there, but he was of the Wheelwright SLATER family that built what is now the Rose and Crown in Boyleston. There used to be a large wheel mounted on the wall of that pub, but it has since been taken down for "health and safety". Originally a Wheelwright shop, built around 1640 it became a pub probably closer to the 1800s. When the SLATER boys left home they all went out as Wheelwrights and Publicans, for about 7 generations. But where did Joseph marry and what was her name? I've had this one for about 20 years. By the way, there used to be a glass panel in the pub to show the construction of the wattle and daub wall of the pub. regards Hilary

Thanks for that, Barbara, but I am a co-researcher with Chris Tipper and publish most of his information on my Website. I am just hoping to 'catch the strays' if I can, much more work to do though... My Genealogy Site may be accessed here → <http;/www.clanjackson.co.uk/genealogy/ > where I include some 43,000 people whose origins are predominately Derbyshire and Staffordshire and currently represent just over 33 years of assembling the information. I should stress though that I apply a self-imposed limit on who are shown on the site - only those born before the end of 1913 are included, so the number on the public access site is just over 25,000 people... Martin -----Original Message----- From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Harvey Sent: 03 June 2013 19:20 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DBY] Brickwall demolition - S & T Try this email address: tipper@one-name,org Chris has plenty of information. Barbara At 11:26 03/06/2013, you wrote: >Desperately Seeking → TIPPER Any in >Derbyshire and Staffordshire... please☺ Martin Jackson, in a >scorching Central Portugal ---- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Peter, If you click on http://www.wirksworth.org.uk/MENU.htm#search and enter the words "Lea Mills" in the search box, you will be presented with 289 mentions of Lea Mills in the Wirksworth website. If you have the time to trawl through these (in your panicky shorts under a boiling sun) you may come up with some connections that you don't yet know about. Regards, John Palmer, Dorset, England Author of Wirksworth website www.wirksworth.org.uk

Hi Mike Thanks for your reply. I would be interested in seeing your research as I have got back to 1696 in Wirksworth, then nothing & Ripley is not far away. Thanks again. Regards Gill Sent from my iPad On 3 Jun 2013, at 17:35, Mike Fry <fredbonzo@iafrica.com> wrote: > On 2013/06/03 12:13, Gill Salt wrote: > >> Salt family from wirksworth around 1700s please. > > And I've got the SOULT variation of this - mainly from the Ripley area. > > -- > Regards, > Mike Fry > Johannesburg > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Has he any links to the Slaters of Hazlewood near Duffied? My great grandmother (times 5) on both my paternal OSBISTON lines was Sarah SLATER -and her father was THOMAS PARSON SLATER. I've lots on them. She was a wheelwright and farmer. Barbara  ________________________________ From: Hilary Thomas <organic22@bigpond.com> To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 4 June 2013, 1:29 Subject: [DBY] S for SLATER Hi All, I am searching for the wife of Joseph SLATER of Boyleston.  He married a lady with the first name of Mary, but as we cannot find the marriage, I don't know her surname. They started having children in about 1724.  Joseph was born in Sutton on the Hill, his mother came from there, but he was of the Wheelwright SLATER family that built what is now the Rose and Crown in Boyleston.  There used to be a large wheel mounted on the wall of that pub, but it has since been taken down for "health and safety". Originally a Wheelwright shop, built around 1640  it became a pub probably closer to the 1800s.  When the SLATER boys left home they all went out as Wheelwrights and Publicans, for about 7 generations. But where did Joseph marry and what was her name?  I've had this one for about 20 years. By the way, there used to be a glass panel in the pub to show the construction of the wattle and daub wall of the pub. regards Hilary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Morning all I have been working with a small team of volunteers at Lea Mills to prepare a suitable memorial to the men who worked there and who served in WWI. Like Topsy this project has mushroomed but it has been an exciting and rewarding experience unearthing "unseen" records, letters, photographs etc. As part of this project I have created a website of much of our findings. But before I make the site "live" I would love to hear from anyone who had relatives working at the Mill who may have more information for me to include. Some of the men are still very sketchy, others wonderfully detailed. I just know that errors will have occurred and wish to keep these to a minimum. As well as the story of the men it also include the story of the Mill, its employees and the local community at this time. So, anyone who has any information will make me a happy chappy. Written in wonderfully hot weather, in shorts, despite family protest that the local wildlife may be panicked at such a sight. Peter