Hi all I have nothing at this stage to report, however it is so good to ‘see’ you all again I have missed all the messages Jen (NSW) > On 10 Nov 2016, at 1:33 AM, Celia Renshaw <[email protected]> wrote: > > Many thanks Nivard. I think a couple posts of mine got lost in this > melee, so I'll consider reposting. > > Celia Renshaw > in Chesterfield, Derbyshire > www.morgansite.wordpress.com > > >> \ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

How do I get the submissions in the Digest format for my email? Thanks Harold

Hi again Joan - I've always taken it to mean "at least 25", as you also do, in the same way as "21 and upwards" means "at least 21/full age" - but I do wonder why age 25 was significant. Might need some research! Celia Renshaw in Chesterfield, Derbys PS How nice it is to have Derbysgen back and active again - it's been very quiet. On 9 November 2016 at 16:30, Joan M <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello, > > I've been looking at a couple of marriage licenses and was wondering > whether > when it states an age eg of '25 years and upwards' does that mean the > person > is actually 25 or is at least 25 at the time of marriage - hope the > question > makes sense!! > > Thanks > > Joan > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You lost your bet ;-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 09-Nov-16 5:08 PM, Joy Hungerford wrote: > I can read the Derbysgen messages, but I'd like to bet this email > > won't make it to the list. > > But in case it does, is anyone researching the MARTIN family of Ockbrook? > > I'm still hoping to find viable parents for my 4GGF, Samuel, 1756-1841. > > I'm back on his track, so he'd better watch out! > > > Kind regards > > > Joy

Message received safely Joy. I've noticed MARTINs around that area but a lot earlier I'm afraid, early 17th c. Celia Renshaw in Chesterfield, Derbys On 9 November 2016 at 17:08, Joy Hungerford <[email protected]> wrote: > I can read the Derbysgen messages, but I'd like to bet this email > > won't make it to the list. > > But in case it does, is anyone researching the MARTIN family of Ockbrook? > > I'm still hoping to find viable parents for my 4GGF, Samuel, 1756-1841. > > I'm back on his track, so he'd better watch out! > > > Kind regards > > > Joy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I can read the Derbysgen messages, but I'd like to bet this email won't make it to the list. But in case it does, is anyone researching the MARTIN family of Ockbrook? I'm still hoping to find viable parents for my 4GGF, Samuel, 1756-1841. I'm back on his track, so he'd better watch out! Kind regards Joy

Guy's, did we find out about JP? -- David G Gregory [email protected] On Wed, 9 Nov 2016, at 14:00, Rick H. wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 12:23:35 +0000 > From: Nick Higton <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [DBY] Wirksworth.org > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" > > Sorry if this is an intrusion, but does anyone know if John Palmer is ok? > I > haven't been able to contact him over the past few weeks. > Nick Higton > > ------ > I don't think it an intrusion, my 2 cents... > It has been longer than that, I think nearly a year since I tried both > electronic and snail mail. > > \s\Rick > PS is there a place to read about the massive lists failure(s)? > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- http://www.fastmail.com - Same, same, but different...

Hello, I've been looking at a couple of marriage licenses and was wondering whether when it states an age eg of '25 years and upwards' does that mean the person is actually 25 or is at least 25 at the time of marriage - hope the question makes sense!! Thanks Joan

Many thanks Nivard. I think a couple posts of mine got lost in this melee, so I'll consider reposting. Celia Renshaw in Chesterfield, Derbyshire www.morgansite.wordpress.com On 9 November 2016 at 14:28, Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> wrote: > Rootsweb upgraded the lists servers and at the same time updated the Mailman > software the lists run on > > Thats what caused the major problem I believe > > It caused some isps being unable to post to the lists > > Eventually necessitating the taking down of the lists for maintenance on the > 7th Oct > > The lists have gradually come back online server by server, the last being > today, so all should be working > > Any previous attempt to post should have had a reject notice, all mine did, > so any sent after the 7th October until the lists came back online will be > lost and would need reposting is still relevant > > No communication has been received from Rootsweb about the situation > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> >> \s\Rick >> PS is there a place to read about the massive lists failure(s)? > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rootsweb upgraded the lists servers and at the same time updated the Mailman software the lists run on Thats what caused the major problem I believe It caused some isps being unable to post to the lists Eventually necessitating the taking down of the lists for maintenance on the 7th Oct The lists have gradually come back online server by server, the last being today, so all should be working Any previous attempt to post should have had a reject notice, all mine did, so any sent after the 7th October until the lists came back online will be lost and would need reposting is still relevant No communication has been received from Rootsweb about the situation Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > \s\Rick > PS is there a place to read about the massive lists failure(s)?

Sorry if this is an intrusion, but does anyone know if John Palmer is ok? I haven't been able to contact him over the past few weeks. Nick Higton

When I have encountered marriage licenses that stated an age of "25 years and upwards" I have always thought they were most likely over 25. DeAnne On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Joan M <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello, > > I've been looking at a couple of marriage licenses and was wondering > whether > when it states an age eg of '25 years and upwards' does that mean the > person > is actually 25 or is at least 25 at the time of marriage - hope the > question > makes sense!! > > Thanks > > Joan > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Message: 1 Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 12:23:35 +0000 From: Nick Higton <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: [DBY] Wirksworth.org Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Sorry if this is an intrusion, but does anyone know if John Palmer is ok? I haven't been able to contact him over the past few weeks. Nick Higton ------ I don't think it an intrusion, my 2 cents... It has been longer than that, I think nearly a year since I tried both electronic and snail mail. \s\Rick PS is there a place to read about the massive lists failure(s)? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Thanks and good to hear that the lists are back. In a message dated 08/11/2016 22:37:45 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hope this gets through as some lists are back. >The GRO indexes can now be searched at > >https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp > >for births and deaths up to 1957. > >The search facility has the bonus that the result gives the mother's maiden name for births pre-1911, and the age at death pre-1865, which were not previously given. The search facility isn't that great but the extra info is. Some infants ages are wrong - they say years but should be months. Oh, yes, you need to register and log in. HTH Andy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hope this gets through as some lists are back. >The GRO indexes can now be searched at > >https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp > >for births and deaths up to 1957. > >The search facility has the bonus that the result gives the mother's maiden name for births pre-1911, and the age at death pre-1865, which were not previously given. The search facility isn't that great but the extra info is. Some infants ages are wrong - they say years but should be months. Oh, yes, you need to register and log in. HTH Andy

Thank you to everyone who has given me hints and tips on a trip to Kew, I think I need to plan a holiday there!! Joan

Hi Joan, If you are thinking of a trip to Kew then reading the National Archives website here http://nationalarchives.gov.uk/about/visit-us/researching-here/ is a must. IT EXPLAINS CLEARLY WHAT TO EXPECT, WHAT IS EXPECTED OF YOU, AND WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWED AND NOT ALLOWED. Excuse the capitals - I'm not shouting - I'm just emphasising that these are the tips you really need to know about. I would suggest that you get as much done before you go as you possibly can. 1. You can get a reader's ticket on-line beforehand. It takes 6 weeks and it says you will save 15 minutes of time doing it. However, it will take longer than that because the building is huge and awesome and overpowering if you've never been before. So everything takes longer first time around. Imagine: on arrival, check coats, bags, etc into cloakroom, find ticket station, get ticket, return personal stuff to bag in cloakroom, and 30 minutes or more has gone without you noticing. If you already have a ticket you can go straight in. 2. Do research their on-line catalogue for what you hope to find well beforehand. You can pre-order documents on-line so that they are waiting for you on arrival. This will save a lot of time. 3. Use a large, clear see-through zip bag to hold your paper (including any of your own notes), magnifying glass/sheet and soft-leaded 2B-4B pencils - take more than one - as you are not allowed pencil sharpeners. There are pencil sharpeners screwed down at tables in the reading rooms, but you can avoid losing precious minutes walking over to re-sharpen every time you need to. Security is everywhere at Kew - it's a real issue. You will be searched before entering and leaving the reading rooms. No bags, no coats, no garments that could hide documents (floaty cardigans are suspect!). So the more transparent you can be the better. Uniformed officers patrol the reading rooms constantly and everyone is watched. No need to feel intimidated however, they are all extremely helpful and knowledgeable and pleasant. Time flies - there is never enough and there is always more to do because one document can unleash the need to look at more - in fact it almost always does. Kew is an amazing place and you will come away elated and frustrated both. Have a great day - and then go back for more! Ruth

Hi Joan The main thing is to take photo ID with you such as your passport as the first thing you have to do is register and get a User Card with your photo on it (they take the photo whilst you sit there). Take a pencil and sharpener as no pens in the reading room and have a good look at the catalogue before you go to try to identify what you might want to see. Take a camera as you are allowed to photograph documents and select a table near the windows to get good light for your photos as flash is not allowed and your table number and letter is your reference for document delivery. Get there as early as you can and be patient as you wait for your documents to be delivered to the lockers from which you collect them one at a time. Don't be surprised as how little you get done in a day! Meg Magdalen Galley-Taylor [email protected] 01409 261804 When replying always change the subject line to that of the individual message which you are responding to. Please "SNIP" generously, don't repeat everything again. Including everything will inflate the size of the next Digest unnecessarily and could create problems for those who are not on broadband. Today's Topics: 1. Re: Duplicate baptism records? (Joan M) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 10:33:13 +0100 From: "Joan M" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] Duplicate baptism records? Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thank you everyone for your suggestions on this, I think I will have to organise a trip to Kew - has anyone any tips on how to make the most of a visit as I've never been there before. Also just to say, I'm happy to go round the graveyards of St Martins in Ruislip and the church at Harefield and take photos if anyone has relatives who have ended up being buried there. Kind regards Joan

Thank you everyone for your suggestions on this, I think I will have to organise a trip to Kew - has anyone any tips on how to make the most of a visit as I've never been there before. Also just to say, I'm happy to go round the graveyards of St Martins in Ruislip and the church at Harefield and take photos if anyone has relatives who have ended up being buried there. Kind regards Joan

My 2x great aunt Margaret RYMER was baptised twice, according to the registers of St Cuthbert, York & All Hallows, Bardsey. In York (where the family lived) on 16 Apr 1841 & in Bardsey (where her mother was from) on 30 May 1842. I have seen both original entries. Strangely she was not her parents' first child, that was her brother William. William and all the other children seem only to have had the regulation 1 baptism in York! Sadly Margaret died aged 12 and it was her death which led her father James RYMER, a joiner, to start his own undertaking business in the city. Sue Herrington in Notts -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 3:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DBY] Duplicate baptism records? Hi Joan I would be checking the originals, it could be a transcription or marking error (ie the wrong parish assigned to one of them) Or the incumbent of one stood in at the other and made notes, they were transferred by a clerk who took them to be in one or other parish But the key would be checking the original PRs in each parish PS I have come across it several times and the above was the answer in most cases Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 02-Sep-16 2:23 PM, Joan M wrote: > Hi, > > I appear to have identical baptism dates but at totally different places > (using England, Select Births and Christenings). For example > > Job Heapy, baptised 08 Jan 1786, father Job - I have this record both at > Kirk Ireton and also at Long Eaton and this duplication also applies to > several of his siblings. Kirk Ireton and Long Eaton are approx 22 miles > apart so I would be surprised if they travelled from one to the other on > the > same day. I can't believe that there are two Job Heapys, naming their > children the same and baptising them on the same day. > > Am I missing something?? > > Joan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message