Hi Try this link www.lockopark.co.uk Brian KINDER outpost in Cornwall

I just looked up Family Tree Maker in the App store, and found apps for both iPad and iPhone (there is no such thing as an Android iPad, by the way). You might want to take a look at those apps if you are used to FTM. The app does say that it can move between Apple products, PCs, Androids so it may suit you very well. Carolyn Hastings Clinton, MA USA Carolyn Hastings Clinton, MA and sometimes Norfolk, VA On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 12:53 PM, bob--- via DERBYSGEN < [email protected]> wrote: > Yes Nivard is correct > > Ipad app I use, particularly to take with me to archives > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DERBYSGEN > > [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf > > Of Lcsearch3528--- via DERBYSGEN > > Sent: 03 January 2017 17:00 > > To: [email protected] > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: [DBY] Ipad Air 2 query re family history programme > > > > Hi > > > > I have been given an Ipad Air 2 as a Christmas present, and wondered if > > anyone knows if there is a family history app that is suitable? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ruth, Trevor, Heather and Henry Thank you all for your helpful suggestions regarding Gravenhurst. I had found the newspaper records but not looked at the land tax. The Salisbury's and Morecrofts were related but I have not come across Mrs Orme before. The link to the map/schedule is great. I will need to chase up that early Morecroft reference (1720). Joy - we have been in contact before about this family. Many thanks Jane

Hi Rick Rootswebs use of Mailman software and its various options, is and has been since installed about ten years back, by the relevant lists Admin only Users or potential users can subscribe & unsubscribe and post to the list once subscribed and accepted When subscribing users can elect to subscribe as Digest or List for one email address, to subscribe to both you would need two addresses All other options are set or altered by list Admins only Mailman can be used where users set or alter their own specific settings, Rootsweb has never used that facility due to the wide levels of experience of its users There is no self healing as such Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 14-Nov-16 2:17 PM, Rick H. wrote: > One of the status messages that I received during my attempt to do a little > self-healing of the digest situation showed me a status of the list and no > Administrator was shown. When I assume I make ... >

Hi Joy You can always check the archives if you are unsure if a mail got through This one is already in the archives Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 14-Nov-16 6:34 PM, Joy Hungerford wrote: > Thank you, Ruth and Nivard. > I'll be interested to see if this one appears on my screen. > Kind regards > Joy

Thanks for the info Nivard, I have taken note and now realise how that would be so. I live & learn! Kathy In Kent Sent from my iPhone > On 14 Nov 2016, at 16:55, Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> wrote: > > > How mails end up in your junk email folder is due to your ISP or email client, nothing to do with the list itself or Rootsweb > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> On 14-Nov-16 3:47 PM, Kathy Wadlow wrote: >> Hi Ruth, I don't know if this is relevant to your messages sent >> yesterday, but I have just found 2 from you and 1 from h.griff in my >> junk email box, although the one you posted today was ok. I didn't >> open yesterdays as never open from junk mail. Kathy in Kent > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, Ruth and Nivard. I'll be interested to see if this one appears on my screen. Kind regards Joy ________________________________ From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> on behalf of Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> Sent: 14 November 2016 17:07:48 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DBY] FW: Gravenhurst The original also hit the list so no problem Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 14-Nov-16 5:04 PM, Ruth Genda wrote: > Hope this arrives, Joy. > > Ruth > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The original also hit the list so no problem Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 14-Nov-16 5:04 PM, Ruth Genda wrote: > Hope this arrives, Joy. > > Ruth >

Hope this arrives, Joy. Ruth From: Joy Hungerford [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 14 November 2016 14:30 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [DBY] Gravenhurst Ruth I wanted to post the following message on derbysgen, but a previous message from me has not appeared. Would it be possible, please, for you to forward it to the list? I missed the previous posts on this subject, but I'm very interested to see a mention of my 4GGU, John MOORCROFT, who was living at Gravenhurst in 1841, with his son, John, d-i-l, Martha [WOOD] and grandson, Joseph. Son John was the farmer. Next door, I notice, is my 3GGU, Thomas SALISBURY. I'm interested in any research concerning the MOORCROFT, SALISBURY and POUNTAIN families of Church Broughton. Kind regards Joy _____ From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> on behalf of Ruth Genda <[email protected]> Sent: 13 November 2016 14:38 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [DBY] Gravenhurst Jane, And then there is an advertisement in the Derby Mercury of 13 December 1792 which explains that Gravenhurst is the name of a house and small-holding known as Gravenhurst 'situate in Church Broughton' and in the occupation of John Moorcroft who 'will shew the premises.' So it is a house with 9 acres of land and not a place. If this house is still in existence it's likely that it will have changed its name and maybe more than once. Ruth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

How mails end up in your junk email folder is due to your ISP or email client, nothing to do with the list itself or Rootsweb Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 14-Nov-16 3:47 PM, Kathy Wadlow wrote: > Hi Ruth, I don't know if this is relevant to your messages sent > yesterday, but I have just found 2 from you and 1 from h.griff in my > junk email box, although the one you posted today was ok. I didn't > open yesterdays as never open from junk mail. Kathy in Kent

It depends on the digest settings of each individual list It can be set to send a digest when it reaches a certain size, and if that size isn't reached whether it sends a daily digest or not Due to the recent upgrades in both hardware and software (Mailman) the original settings may have been over ridden, so you may be getting a slightly different service than previously Admins have only just been able to take control back of the admin tools so it may take a little while for some things to be seen and adjusted Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 14-Nov-16 1:37 PM, Andre H wrote: > I thought being in the 'digest' version of this list meant only > periodic email. Suddenly I'm getting many a day....?

Hi Ruth, I don't know if this is relevant to your messages sent yesterday, but I have just found 2 from you and 1 from h.griff in my junk email box, although the one you posted today was ok. I didn't open yesterdays as never open from junk mail. Kathy in Kent Sent from my iPad

Ruth I wanted to post the following message on derbysgen, but a previous message from me has not appeared. Would it be possible, please, for you to forward it to the list? I missed the previous posts on this subject, but I'm very interested to see a mention of my 4GGU, John MOORCROFT, who was living at Gravenhurst in 1841, with his son, John, d-i-l, Martha [WOOD] and grandson, Joseph. Son John was the farmer. Next door, I notice, is my 3GGU, Thomas SALISBURY. I'm interested in any research concerning the MOORCROFT, SALISBURY and POUNTAIN families of Church Broughton. Kind regards Joy ________________________________ From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> on behalf of Ruth Genda <[email protected]> Sent: 13 November 2016 14:38 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [DBY] Gravenhurst Jane, And then there is an advertisement in the Derby Mercury of 13 December 1792 which explains that Gravenhurst is the name of a house and small-holding known as Gravenhurst 'situate in Church Broughton' and in the occupation of John Moorcroft who 'will shew the premises.' So it is a house with 9 acres of land and not a place. If this house is still in existence it's likely that it will have changed its name and maybe more than once. Ruth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sitting from a distance as we are its very hard to know the reasons some things happen in the past Change of registrar, illness of mother of father, moving home.short of work etc etc It is also possible an event or more was registered locally but it was not reported back to the GRO in the quarterly returns, or was and was misspelled Wherever humans are involved there is plenty of scope for them to make a hash of it ;-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 14-Nov-16 12:22 PM, [email protected] wrote: > There is one possible one for the baby's death but nothing for her birth and > certainly none for mum. The only possible one gives the age as 62 and it is > a quarter too early for an August funeral so it can't be that one. Allsop > is a common name in the area so not worth 'wasting' another £6 on the baby > death. Her 2 older brothers' births were both registered but I guess if > mother Hannah was ill after the birth then that might explain why baby Mary > wasn't, especially if she was a sickly child who only lived for a month. > Likewise, if Hannah was the driving force behind registering the other > births, nobody would have the same enthusiasm to register her death as they > would have had more important things to do than that. > > Thanks for your help, great as usual. > > Meg in Devon.

There is one possible one for the baby's death but nothing for her birth and certainly none for mum. The only possible one gives the age as 62 and it is a quarter too early for an August funeral so it can't be that one. Allsop is a common name in the area so not worth 'wasting' another £6 on the baby death. Her 2 older brothers' births were both registered but I guess if mother Hannah was ill after the birth then that might explain why baby Mary wasn't, especially if she was a sickly child who only lived for a month. Likewise, if Hannah was the driving force behind registering the other births, nobody would have the same enthusiasm to register her death as they would have had more important things to do than that. Thanks for your help, great as usual. Meg in Devon. 1. Re: Register of Deaths _ Carsington (Nivard Ovington) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 11:55:00 +0000 From: Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DBY] Register of Deaths _ Carsington Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Hi Meg very likely they were not registered A great many events went unregistered pre 1874 When civil registration began and right up to a change in the act in 1873, the onus was on the registrar to seek out the events, there was no penalty to the parents for not registering After 1874 things were much better but still not perfect, as the onus was placed on the parents or dwelling owner or manager Have you also checked in the GRO index for "male" and surname or "female" and surname Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 14-Nov-16 11:48 AM, [email protected] wrote: > How likely is it that a birth and a couple of deaths in Carsington in 1844 > were not registered? From the Carsington records I have a baptism and > burial for a baby Mary Allsop in May and June 1844 and the burial of her > mother Hannah in August 1844. None of these events appears on the GRO site > or FMP or anywhere else I can look. I always thought of the Carsington > records as being pretty reliable and it was a bit 'wild west' at that time > so is it possible that none of these events was registered? > > > > Thanks > > > > Meg Galley-Taylor ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer To contact the DERBYSGEN list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the DERBYSGEN mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------ End of DERBYSGEN Digest, Vol 11, Issue 142 ******************************************

Hi Meg very likely they were not registered A great many events went unregistered pre 1874 When civil registration began and right up to a change in the act in 1873, the onus was on the registrar to seek out the events, there was no penalty to the parents for not registering After 1874 things were much better but still not perfect, as the onus was placed on the parents or dwelling owner or manager Have you also checked in the GRO index for "male" and surname or "female" and surname Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 14-Nov-16 11:48 AM, [email protected] wrote: > How likely is it that a birth and a couple of deaths in Carsington in 1844 > were not registered? From the Carsington records I have a baptism and > burial for a baby Mary Allsop in May and June 1844 and the burial of her > mother Hannah in August 1844. None of these events appears on the GRO site > or FMP or anywhere else I can look. I always thought of the Carsington > records as being pretty reliable and it was a bit 'wild west' at that time > so is it possible that none of these events was registered? > > > > Thanks > > > > Meg Galley-Taylor

How likely is it that a birth and a couple of deaths in Carsington in 1844 were not registered? From the Carsington records I have a baptism and burial for a baby Mary Allsop in May and June 1844 and the burial of her mother Hannah in August 1844. None of these events appears on the GRO site or FMP or anywhere else I can look. I always thought of the Carsington records as being pretty reliable and it was a bit 'wild west' at that time so is it possible that none of these events was registered? Thanks Meg Galley-Taylor

There is a very useful site for tithe maps in the area at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~laetoli/lowerdovevalleytitheviewer.html using this and selecting Church Broughton (in 1847) and then seeing John Moorcroft occupier, owner John Salisbury (Scropton manor/ hamlet) this shows plots 46, 47 & 48. The acreage seems to tie up. Then the map shows these plots at what seems to be Gorsty Fields on modern maps at Grid Ref 419617,334805, off the Ashbourne Road just inside the northern boundary of Church Broughton. The name may have been changed for various reasons including amalgamation of plots. The parish boundaries have changed since then. It would be worth looking at the Victorian OS maps too. Regards, Trevor Simpson On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 14:25:35 +0000, you wrote: >Hi >Can anyone give me a grid reference for Gravenhurst at Church Broughton? >My MOORCROFT/ MORECROFT ancestors lived there as tenants for most of the 19th >century and I >would like to locate the site. I have looked at the OS maps but not had any joy. > I suspect I will need to check out tithe/enclosure/estate maps, but thought >some of you knowledgeable people might know. >Thanks >Jane >

One of the status messages that I received during my attempt to do a little self-healing of the digest situation showed me a status of the list and no Administrator was shown. When I assume I make ... As to Harold's post he did place a subject of digest (single word) in the first posting. I was talking about regular digest postings from the list and they have the subject like "DERBYSGEN Digest, Vol 11, Issue 138" and I said that - though I may not have quoted it - different situations. Had Harold replied to one of these to seed a new conversation generally there would be a "RE: [DBY]" in front of it and he would have, and should have, cleaned it up to show what his original subject line contained. I did not suggest that he send an email to the administrator because I was under the belief there was none [listed]. Not sure where the adoptable list is or that it even existed? I had sent an email to the administrator on this subject a few days before this post and had not gotten back a reply or seen a change in behavior the list mailings. An email to the list request address with the keyword "Help" returns a list of many possible commands, one of which is "Set". Requesting "Help Set" returns a list of Set commands, one of these commands is "Set Digest". I did not actually use this method so I can only suggest that it works because it is in the Help. I believe that I had posted as my second suggestion very similar what you proposed with an "Unsubscribe" command message followed later by a "Subscribe Digest" message? This is the method I had just used to try and 'heal' my situation. I used the Request address, I was not aware that regular list address would also take service requests. As Nivard has stated this can also be done from the web page he mentioned. \s\Rick -----Original Message----- Hi Rick & Harold Rick I am not sure how you know there is no admin as the list is not adoptable at present as far as I can tell, so there should be an admin The reason there is digest in the subject line is I think that Harold has entered that word Harold, as to getting digest mode, neither method suggested would work on these lists unless there has been a recent change I am unaware of To get digest you have two choices From http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/ENG/DERBYSGEN.html Either send a mail to the lists admin (first option on the above page) and ask for them to change you to digest (its a function only admin can do) OR From the above page Using the email address you are subscribed to the list with Unsubscribe from the L (list mode) address (send a blank email with unsubscribe in the subject line and body of the mail, it must be to the "request" address) Then send an email to the digest subscribing address (has D in the address) The blued email addresses in the lists home page should generate a new mail if clicked on, if not copy and paste the address into the To address field All Rootsweb lists work in the same way Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

In the Land Tax between 1786 and 1798 property belonging to Mrs Orme was assessed at 11s 1d and John Moorcroft shown as the occupier. Heather --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus