Rh positive is a dominant gene so you only need one copy to be Rh positive. Your husband clearly has one positive gene and one negative, because you had a Rh negative child (which requires two Rh negative genes). A couple where the husband has two Rh positive genes and the wife is Rh negative will only have positive children. As for passing Rh negative type down the generations, it doesn't necessarily follow - both partners need to have at least one Rh negative gene to have a negative child. Hope that makes sense. Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Margaret ELLIOTT via DERBYSGEN<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: ‎23/‎01/‎2017 17:55 To: Derbyshire genealogy<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Margaret ELLIOTT<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] Rhesus factor I had not realised how lucky I was! My first child, born in 1970 was Rh+, but my second, born in 1972 was Rh-. I must have had the injection because I had a third child two years later with no problems. My question is, how likely is the Rh- to be passed down through generations? Down one of my family lines, two or three children arrived as expected at approx. 2yr intervals, and then births stopped. The Rh- problem? Kind regards Margaret > On 23 Jan 2017, at 13:00, Alan Bloor via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > Before my retirement I worked in a Blood Transfusion laboratory and one of our responsibilities was to issue Anti D injections to Rh negative ladies who delivered Rh positive children. This was to destroy any babies red blood cells which had leaked into the mother’s circulation during the birth. It is these cells that stimulate the mother to make the Rh antibody (Anti D) that can cause problems for future babies. So in giving the injection any rogue cells were destroyed before they could stimulate antibody production. This treatment was discovered in the 1970s so a decade too late for your family, but it has saved many lives since. Sadly there are still a few cases that slip through the net. > > > > I’m sorry to hear about your sister’s early death, Andrea, although I don’t think there is any connection between Rh disease and cancer. > > > > Alan > > > > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 > > > > From: Andrea Newham via DERBYSGEN<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: 23 January 2017 12:03 > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Cc: Andrea Newham<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [DBY] Rhesus factor > > > > I've found this a very interesting discussion. My mum is the rare blood type (A rhesus negative?) But had 3 children with no difficulties, myself being the eldest. Then she had a miscarriage and a year later my sister who was born jaundiced. I recall she said it was to do with her blood type and the babies blood and her own blood "not getting on with each other" but as a child I never questioned it. I never realised how serious this was but mum and dad probably had it explained to them at the time (late 60s) needless to say we stayed as a family of 6! Sadly my sister wasn't a completely well adult with recurring IBS which turned out to be bowel cancer and took her from us at the young age of 43! > Andrea > > > > Sent from Samsung tablet > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I had not realised how lucky I was! My first child, born in 1970 was Rh+, but my second, born in 1972 was Rh-. I must have had the injection because I had a third child two years later with no problems. My question is, how likely is the Rh- to be passed down through generations? Down one of my family lines, two or three children arrived as expected at approx. 2yr intervals, and then births stopped. The Rh- problem? Kind regards Margaret > On 23 Jan 2017, at 13:00, Alan Bloor via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > Before my retirement I worked in a Blood Transfusion laboratory and one of our responsibilities was to issue Anti D injections to Rh negative ladies who delivered Rh positive children. This was to destroy any babies red blood cells which had leaked into the mother’s circulation during the birth. It is these cells that stimulate the mother to make the Rh antibody (Anti D) that can cause problems for future babies. So in giving the injection any rogue cells were destroyed before they could stimulate antibody production. This treatment was discovered in the 1970s so a decade too late for your family, but it has saved many lives since. Sadly there are still a few cases that slip through the net. > > > > I’m sorry to hear about your sister’s early death, Andrea, although I don’t think there is any connection between Rh disease and cancer. > > > > Alan > > > > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 > > > > From: Andrea Newham via DERBYSGEN<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: 23 January 2017 12:03 > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Cc: Andrea Newham<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [DBY] Rhesus factor > > > > I've found this a very interesting discussion. My mum is the rare blood type (A rhesus negative?) But had 3 children with no difficulties, myself being the eldest. Then she had a miscarriage and a year later my sister who was born jaundiced. I recall she said it was to do with her blood type and the babies blood and her own blood "not getting on with each other" but as a child I never questioned it. I never realised how serious this was but mum and dad probably had it explained to them at the time (late 60s) needless to say we stayed as a family of 6! Sadly my sister wasn't a completely well adult with recurring IBS which turned out to be bowel cancer and took her from us at the young age of 43! > Andrea > > > > Sent from Samsung tablet > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I ran into an interesting family living next door to one of my own in North Wales. Both families were large but the neighbours lost 9 out 14 children within a year or two of birth, whereas mine were rudely healthy and all survived. The father of the other family enters the North Wales Asylum after the 1911 census and dies there in 1918. There is no suggestion of anything criminal going on and they did adopt a child too, but I did wonder if the children had died of congenital syphilis especially since the surviving children were the first (illegitimate and born two years before the marriage) and the last four. I keep dithering about getting a death certificate or two ... Once upon a time I was a clinical biochemist so odd deaths interest me. I'm also a rhesus baby - first child so no problems - but my second brother, the third child, was a sickly wee soul with a skin colour to match his ginger hair. My 6 year old mind was very surprised to find that babies came in shades of orange. Mum was warned the next child would not survive at all, so there were no more children. Natalia On 23/01/17 7:24 AM, Margaret Siudek via DERBYSGEN wrote: > I am sure that's a possibility though someone with more medical knowledge than me could say how long a rhesus negative child would be likely to live, if second or third or subsequent- born. I'm also rhesus negative, so thank goodness for modern medicine... > > I seem also to remember reading a book which said that syphilis was also a killer of babies, with a pattern who might be conjectured... No certainties of course. Once a mother was infected, there would be a likelihood that there would be a number of children still-born because of the congenital form of the disease. and then one or two sickly children who didn't live long, and then the disease having gone to ground, so to speak, subsequent children, with luck, would be unaffected. Modern antibiotics can deal with the problem, but of course, they were unknown in earlier times. > > Margaret > > Sent from my Windows Phone > ________________________________ >

I believe these were commonly called "blue" babies. A relative of mine had two healthy children, followed by several miscarriages as a result of this, but after the treatment was discovered she had two more successful pregnancies. -----Original Message----- From: Alan Bloor via DERBYSGEN Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 1:00 PM To: Andrea Newham via DERBYSGEN Cc: Alan Bloor Subject: Re: [DBY] Rhesus factor Before my retirement I worked in a Blood Transfusion laboratory and one of our responsibilities was to issue Anti D injections to Rh negative ladies who delivered Rh positive children. This was to destroy any babies red blood cells which had leaked into the mother’s circulation during the birth. It is these cells that stimulate the mother to make the Rh antibody (Anti D) that can cause problems for future babies. So in giving the injection any rogue cells were destroyed before they could stimulate antibody production. This treatment was discovered in the 1970s so a decade too late for your family, but it has saved many lives since. Sadly there are still a few cases that slip through the net. I’m sorry to hear about your sister’s early death, Andrea, although I don’t think there is any connection between Rh disease and cancer. Alan Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Andrea Newham via DERBYSGEN<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: 23 January 2017 12:03 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Andrea Newham<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [DBY] Rhesus factor I've found this a very interesting discussion. My mum is the rare blood type (A rhesus negative?) But had 3 children with no difficulties, myself being the eldest. Then she had a miscarriage and a year later my sister who was born jaundiced. I recall she said it was to do with her blood type and the babies blood and her own blood "not getting on with each other" but as a child I never questioned it. I never realised how serious this was but mum and dad probably had it explained to them at the time (late 60s) needless to say we stayed as a family of 6! Sadly my sister wasn't a completely well adult with recurring IBS which turned out to be bowel cancer and took her from us at the young age of 43! Andrea Sent from Samsung tablet ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Before my retirement I worked in a Blood Transfusion laboratory and one of our responsibilities was to issue Anti D injections to Rh negative ladies who delivered Rh positive children. This was to destroy any babies red blood cells which had leaked into the mother’s circulation during the birth. It is these cells that stimulate the mother to make the Rh antibody (Anti D) that can cause problems for future babies. So in giving the injection any rogue cells were destroyed before they could stimulate antibody production. This treatment was discovered in the 1970s so a decade too late for your family, but it has saved many lives since. Sadly there are still a few cases that slip through the net. I’m sorry to hear about your sister’s early death, Andrea, although I don’t think there is any connection between Rh disease and cancer. Alan Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Andrea Newham via DERBYSGEN<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: 23 January 2017 12:03 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Andrea Newham<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [DBY] Rhesus factor I've found this a very interesting discussion. My mum is the rare blood type (A rhesus negative?) But had 3 children with no difficulties, myself being the eldest. Then she had a miscarriage and a year later my sister who was born jaundiced. I recall she said it was to do with her blood type and the babies blood and her own blood "not getting on with each other" but as a child I never questioned it. I never realised how serious this was but mum and dad probably had it explained to them at the time (late 60s) needless to say we stayed as a family of 6! Sadly my sister wasn't a completely well adult with recurring IBS which turned out to be bowel cancer and took her from us at the young age of 43! Andrea Sent from Samsung tablet ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've found this a very interesting discussion. My mum is the rare blood type (A rhesus negative?) But had 3 children with no difficulties, myself being the eldest. Then she had a miscarriage and a year later my sister who was born jaundiced. I recall she said it was to do with her blood type and the babies blood and her own blood "not getting on with each other" but as a child I never questioned it. I never realised how serious this was but mum and dad probably had it explained to them at the time (late 60s) needless to say we stayed as a family of 6! Sadly my sister wasn't a completely well adult with recurring IBS which turned out to be bowel cancer and took her from us at the young age of 43! Andrea Sent from Samsung tablet

Rhesus disease (Haemolytic Disease of the Newborn to give it's correct title) gets more severe the more children you have. So after the first child or two you would get a jaundiced child, then maybe a stillbirth and then even earlier miscarriage. Any surviving children in the middle could be Rh negative as only positive children are affected. I once read an interesting theory that Catherine of Aragon may have been Rh negative which explained why she had so many miscarriages. Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Margaret Siudek via DERBYSGEN<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: ‎22/‎01/‎2017 18:24 To: Derbyshire genealogy<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Margaret Siudek<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] rhesus factor I am sure that's a possibility though someone with more medical knowledge than me could say how long a rhesus negative child would be likely to live, if second or third or subsequent- born. I'm also rhesus negative, so thank goodness for modern medicine... I seem also to remember reading a book which said that syphilis was also a killer of babies, with a pattern who might be conjectured... No certainties of course. Once a mother was infected, there would be a likelihood that there would be a number of children still-born because of the congenital form of the disease. and then one or two sickly children who didn't live long, and then the disease having gone to ground, so to speak, subsequent children, with luck, would be unaffected. Modern antibiotics can deal with the problem, but of course, they were unknown in earlier times. Margaret Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Kathy Wadlow via DERBYSGEN<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: ‎22/‎01/‎2017 18:04 To: Derbyshire genealogy<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Kathy Wadlow<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] rhesus factor I find it an interesting thought too Joan, a possibility I hadn't thought of when looking at some Parish records I have showing a family having 6 children, only one of whom survived to adulthood.. The first born 1693 was the survivor, the next b. 1695 lived 11 days, next b. 1696 lived 5 yrs. next b. 1699 lived 1 yr. next b. 1701 lived 2 yrs. next b. 1703 died 10yrs. & lastly one born 1705 with no further records shown. The first born survivor married and had 4 sons, one of whom died at 1 yr. which isn't actually relevant to the theory though. I believe various infections (other than diseases) was a very common (but unknown at the time) cause but it seems unlikely that one family should be so unlucky, having coped well with their first born. So, your theory could possibly be correct - but as Nivard has pointed out we will never be able to know cause of death for certain. Future researchers are going to be so lucky with everything documented aren't they? Kathy in Kent Sent from my iPad On 22 Jan 2017, at 17:26, Joan M via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Nivard, You are totally correct in that it can't be proven and I suspect because the condition wasn't know about a death certificate wouldn't prove much unless it specified a particular event such as accident etc. I think the only indication (and then it's not certain) would be if the first child survived then the rest died, just an interesting thought as a rhesus negative person myself. Kind regards Joan -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN Sent: 22 January 2017 16:49 To: [email protected] Cc: Nivard Ovington Subject: Re: [DBY] rhesus factor Hi Joan Without documentary evidence, such as death certs, anything else is pure guesswork Large fire or accident, various diseases etc all can be a factor but without investigating in more detail you are not going to know for sure Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > On 22-Jan-17 4:44 PM, Joan M via DERBYSGEN wrote: > I've just found a couple 1911 censuses where there are a large number > of children born but only one or two survive. Could one reason be the > problem with the mother's blood type being rhesus negative where the > first child survives if rhesus positive but because antibodies have > then built up any subsequent rhesus positive children will have their blood cells destroyed? > Hope this makes sense!!! > > Joan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am sure that's a possibility though someone with more medical knowledge than me could say how long a rhesus negative child would be likely to live, if second or third or subsequent- born. I'm also rhesus negative, so thank goodness for modern medicine... I seem also to remember reading a book which said that syphilis was also a killer of babies, with a pattern who might be conjectured... No certainties of course. Once a mother was infected, there would be a likelihood that there would be a number of children still-born because of the congenital form of the disease. and then one or two sickly children who didn't live long, and then the disease having gone to ground, so to speak, subsequent children, with luck, would be unaffected. Modern antibiotics can deal with the problem, but of course, they were unknown in earlier times. Margaret Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Kathy Wadlow via DERBYSGEN<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: ‎22/‎01/‎2017 18:04 To: Derbyshire genealogy<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Kathy Wadlow<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] rhesus factor I find it an interesting thought too Joan, a possibility I hadn't thought of when looking at some Parish records I have showing a family having 6 children, only one of whom survived to adulthood.. The first born 1693 was the survivor, the next b. 1695 lived 11 days, next b. 1696 lived 5 yrs. next b. 1699 lived 1 yr. next b. 1701 lived 2 yrs. next b. 1703 died 10yrs. & lastly one born 1705 with no further records shown. The first born survivor married and had 4 sons, one of whom died at 1 yr. which isn't actually relevant to the theory though. I believe various infections (other than diseases) was a very common (but unknown at the time) cause but it seems unlikely that one family should be so unlucky, having coped well with their first born. So, your theory could possibly be correct - but as Nivard has pointed out we will never be able to know cause of death for certain. Future researchers are going to be so lucky with everything documented aren't they? Kathy in Kent Sent from my iPad On 22 Jan 2017, at 17:26, Joan M via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Nivard, You are totally correct in that it can't be proven and I suspect because the condition wasn't know about a death certificate wouldn't prove much unless it specified a particular event such as accident etc. I think the only indication (and then it's not certain) would be if the first child survived then the rest died, just an interesting thought as a rhesus negative person myself. Kind regards Joan -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN Sent: 22 January 2017 16:49 To: [email protected] Cc: Nivard Ovington Subject: Re: [DBY] rhesus factor Hi Joan Without documentary evidence, such as death certs, anything else is pure guesswork Large fire or accident, various diseases etc all can be a factor but without investigating in more detail you are not going to know for sure Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > On 22-Jan-17 4:44 PM, Joan M via DERBYSGEN wrote: > I've just found a couple 1911 censuses where there are a large number > of children born but only one or two survive. Could one reason be the > problem with the mother's blood type being rhesus negative where the > first child survives if rhesus positive but because antibodies have > then built up any subsequent rhesus positive children will have their blood cells destroyed? > Hope this makes sense!!! > > Joan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> ---------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 16:44:02 -0000 > From: "Joan M" <[email protected]> > To: "'Derbyshire genealogy'" <[email protected]> > Subject: [DBY] rhesus factor > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I've just found a couple 1911 censuses where there are a large number of > children born but only one or two survive. Could one reason be the problem > with the mother's blood type being rhesus negative where the first child > survives if rhesus positive but because antibodies have then built up any > subsequent rhesus positive children will have their blood cells destroyed? > Hope this makes sense!!! > > Joan > > I have a niece who is rhesus negative, so it's something I have thought of when you get that pattern of deaths. Also I knew a lady who died a few years ago and her son was born late forties, early fifties, (1950s) in Manchester. He survived, but the next 2 babies died. No one told them why and they decided to stop having children, because it was so distressing.Marie in Cheshire > >

I find it an interesting thought too Joan, a possibility I hadn't thought of when looking at some Parish records I have showing a family having 6 children, only one of whom survived to adulthood.. The first born 1693 was the survivor, the next b. 1695 lived 11 days, next b. 1696 lived 5 yrs. next b. 1699 lived 1 yr. next b. 1701 lived 2 yrs. next b. 1703 died 10yrs. & lastly one born 1705 with no further records shown. The first born survivor married and had 4 sons, one of whom died at 1 yr. which isn't actually relevant to the theory though. I believe various infections (other than diseases) was a very common (but unknown at the time) cause but it seems unlikely that one family should be so unlucky, having coped well with their first born. So, your theory could possibly be correct - but as Nivard has pointed out we will never be able to know cause of death for certain. Future researchers are going to be so lucky with everything documented aren't they? Kathy in Kent Sent from my iPad On 22 Jan 2017, at 17:26, Joan M via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Nivard, You are totally correct in that it can't be proven and I suspect because the condition wasn't know about a death certificate wouldn't prove much unless it specified a particular event such as accident etc. I think the only indication (and then it's not certain) would be if the first child survived then the rest died, just an interesting thought as a rhesus negative person myself. Kind regards Joan -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN Sent: 22 January 2017 16:49 To: [email protected] Cc: Nivard Ovington Subject: Re: [DBY] rhesus factor Hi Joan Without documentary evidence, such as death certs, anything else is pure guesswork Large fire or accident, various diseases etc all can be a factor but without investigating in more detail you are not going to know for sure Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > On 22-Jan-17 4:44 PM, Joan M via DERBYSGEN wrote: > I've just found a couple 1911 censuses where there are a large number > of children born but only one or two survive. Could one reason be the > problem with the mother's blood type being rhesus negative where the > first child survives if rhesus positive but because antibodies have > then built up any subsequent rhesus positive children will have their blood cells destroyed? > Hope this makes sense!!! > > Joan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the

Hi Nivard, You are totally correct in that it can't be proven and I suspect because the condition wasn't know about a death certificate wouldn't prove much unless it specified a particular event such as accident etc. I think the only indication (and then it's not certain) would be if the first child survived then the rest died, just an interesting thought as a rhesus negative person myself. Kind regards Joan -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN Sent: 22 January 2017 16:49 To: [email protected] Cc: Nivard Ovington Subject: Re: [DBY] rhesus factor Hi Joan Without documentary evidence, such as death certs, anything else is pure guesswork Large fire or accident, various diseases etc all can be a factor but without investigating in more detail you are not going to know for sure Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 22-Jan-17 4:44 PM, Joan M via DERBYSGEN wrote: > I've just found a couple 1911 censuses where there are a large number > of children born but only one or two survive. Could one reason be the > problem with the mother's blood type being rhesus negative where the > first child survives if rhesus positive but because antibodies have > then built up any subsequent rhesus positive children will have their blood cells destroyed? > Hope this makes sense!!! > > Joan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Joan Without documentary evidence, such as death certs, anything else is pure guesswork Large fire or accident, various diseases etc all can be a factor but without investigating in more detail you are not going to know for sure Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 22-Jan-17 4:44 PM, Joan M via DERBYSGEN wrote: > I've just found a couple 1911 censuses where there are a large number of > children born but only one or two survive. Could one reason be the problem > with the mother's blood type being rhesus negative where the first child > survives if rhesus positive but because antibodies have then built up any > subsequent rhesus positive children will have their blood cells destroyed? > Hope this makes sense!!! > > Joan

I've just found a couple 1911 censuses where there are a large number of children born but only one or two survive. Could one reason be the problem with the mother's blood type being rhesus negative where the first child survives if rhesus positive but because antibodies have then built up any subsequent rhesus positive children will have their blood cells destroyed? Hope this makes sense!!! Joan

Hello Vanda You can buy a CD of all Taddington registers from Val Neal - see http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DBY/ValNealCDs#Orders No connection except as a satisfied customer of other CDs. best wishes Marjorie Ward Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dusk

Hi Stuart No spoilers please ;-) Some don't like to know what episodes are about before airing As to be being related to royalty, I would say its very likely that most people in the country are at some point in time, so I don't think its the most exciting thing in the world Its just that some can find a paper trail that suggests they are, most people can't Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 20-Jan-17 12:17 AM, stuart via DERBYSGEN wrote: > The Daily Mirror is reporting on the Greg Davies programme.....Will > he be dancing around saying they made me an Offa I couldn't refuse? > Or did he find it was my relative that killed the dog!!!!

Thank you for your help Anne. I'll order the certificate ???? Sent from my iPad > On 20 Jan 2017, at 00:05, ANNE via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > Here's the GRO reference to order the certificate: > > Name Abraham Mellor > Event Type Marriage > Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar > Registration Year 1855 > Registration District Bakewell > County Derbyshire > Event Place Bakewell, Derbyshire, England > Volume 7B > Page 679 > Line Number 6 > > Abraham Mellor probably married one of the following people > Name Martha Slack > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Vanda Hopwood via DERBYSGEN > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 6:17 PM > To: Derbyshire genealogy > Cc: Vanda Hopwood > Subject: Re: [DBY] Marriage Look Up in Taddington > > I was wondering if it showed the fathers occupation and where they were living Anne. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 19 Jan 2017, at 22:55, ANNE via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> What is it you are looking for? >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Vanda Hopwood via DERBYSGEN >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 5:08 PM >> To: Derbyshire genealogy >> Cc: Vanda Hopwood >> Subject: Re: [DBY] Marriage Look Up in Taddington >> >> Ok thank you Anne. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 19 Jan 2017, at 21:54, ANNE via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I dont' see any additional information on the marriage record. Dates and names are as you mentioned. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Vanda Hopwood via DERBYSGEN >>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 3:10 PM >>> To: Derbyshire genealogy >>> Cc: Vanda Hopwood >>> Subject: [DBY] Marriage Look Up in Taddington >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> >>> I wondered if someone could look up a marriage for me please? It's between Abraham MELLOR & Martha SLACK on 29 January 1855 in Taddington. Abraham's father was William MELLOR & Martha's father was Abraham SLACK. >>> >>> >>> Thank you for any help, best wishes, Vanda >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I thought there had been several celebs descended from royalty in earlier episodes. I remember Alexander Armstrong, and even Boris Johnson, though it was European royalty in his case (oh, the irony!), not UK ancestors. And at least one other - Celia Imrie, I think. Maybe more. Margaret PS. I certainly wouldn't be! > On 19 Jan 2017, at 21:29, stuart via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > Very sorry about this think I might have twigged it does not accept pasted input, the Mirror headline is, > Greg Davies second celeb after Danny Dyer to discover he's descended from kings on Who Do You Think You Are? > > > > ________________________________ > From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> on behalf of stuart via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> > Sent: 20 January 2017 00:22 > To: Derbyshire genealogy > Cc: stuart > Subject: Re: [DBY] resumption of WDYTYA Wed 25th Jan 2017 Ian McKellen > > Greg Davies second celeb after Danny Dyer to discover he's descended from kings on Who Do You Think You Are? > > My last post should have included this Daily Mirror quote but for some unknown reason left a space. > > > > ________________________________ > From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> on behalf of stuart via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> > Sent: 20 January 2017 00:17 > To: Derbyshire genealogy > Cc: stuart > Subject: Re: [DBY] resumption of WDYTYA Wed 25th Jan 2017 Ian McKellen > > The Daily Mirror is reporting on the Greg Davies programme.....Will he be dancing around saying they made me an Offa I couldn't refuse? Or did he find it was my relative that killed the dog!!!! > > > > A short walk south of the village, following the footpath along the banks of the Glaslyn leads to Beddgelert's most famous historical feature; 'Gelert's Grave'. > > According to legend, the stone monument in the field marks the resting place of 'Gelert', the faithful hound of the medieval Welsh Prince Llewelyn the Great. > > The story, as written on the tombstone reads: > > "In the 13th century Llewelyn, prince of North Wales, had a palace at Beddgelert. One day he went hunting without Gelert, 'The Faithful Hound', who was unaccountably absent. > > On Llewelyn's return the truant, stained and smeared with blood, joyfully sprang to meet his master. The prince alarmed hastened to find his son, and saw the infant's cot empty, the bedclothes and floor covered with blood. > > The frantic father plunged his sword into the hound's side, thinking it had killed his heir. The dog's dying yell was answered by a child's cry. > > Llewelyn searched and discovered his boy unharmed, but nearby lay the body of a mighty wolf which Gelert had slain. The prince filled with remorse is said never to have smiled again. He buried Gelert here". > > Greg Davies second celeb after Danny Dyer to discover he's descended from kings on Who Do You Think You Are? > > > > ________________________________ > From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> on behalf of Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> > Sent: 12 January 2017 12:55 > To: [email protected] > Cc: Nivard Ovington > Subject: [DBY] resumption of WDYTYA Wed 25th Jan 2017 Ian McKellen > > > Hi all > > Just to remind you the WDYTYA series resumes on the 25th Jan with Sir > Ian McKellen > > Note its moved to Wednesdays > > <http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/news/wdytya-series-13-resume-sir-ian-mckellen-episode> > WDYTYA? series 13 to resume with Sir Ian McKellen episode | Who Do You Think You Are Magazine<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/news/wdytya-series-13-resume-sir-ian-mckellen-episode> > www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com> > [http://cdn2.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/623px_275px/12_WEEK_CHALLENGE_Carousel_8.jpg]<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/> > > Who Do You Think You Are Magazine | Bringing family ...<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/> > www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com > Explore your ancestry and climb the family history tree with Who Do You Think You Are Magazine, for genealogy advice and discovering your family history. And all the ... > > > - The 13th series of Who Do You Think You Are? will return to our screens in a new Wednesday evening slot, starting with Sir Ian McKellen's episode on 25 January > > > WDYTYA? series 13 to resume with Sir Ian McKellen episode | Who Do You Think You Are Magazine<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/news/wdytya-series-13-resume-sir-ian-mckellen-episode> > WDYTYA? series 13 to resume with Sir Ian McKellen episode | Who Do You Think You Are Magazine<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/news/wdytya-series-13-resume-sir-ian-mckellen-episode> > www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com > - The 13th series of Who Do You Think You Are? will return to our screens in a new Wednesday evening slot, starting with Sir Ian McKellen's episode on 25 January > > > www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com>> > [http://cdn2.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/623px_275px/12_WEEK_CHALLENGE_Carousel_8.jpg]<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/> > > Who Do You Think You Are Magazine | Bringing family ...<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/> > www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com> > Explore your ancestry and climb the family history tree with Who Do You Think You Are Magazine, for genealogy advice and discovering your family history. And all the ... > > > - The 13th series of Who Do You Think You Are? will return to our screens in a new Wednesday evening slot, starting with Sir Ian McKellen's episode on 25 January > > > > -- > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Very sorry about this think I might have twigged it does not accept pasted input, the Mirror headline is, Greg Davies second celeb after Danny Dyer to discover he's descended from kings on Who Do You Think You Are? ________________________________ From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> on behalf of stuart via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> Sent: 20 January 2017 00:22 To: Derbyshire genealogy Cc: stuart Subject: Re: [DBY] resumption of WDYTYA Wed 25th Jan 2017 Ian McKellen Greg Davies second celeb after Danny Dyer to discover he's descended from kings on Who Do You Think You Are? My last post should have included this Daily Mirror quote but for some unknown reason left a space. ________________________________ From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> on behalf of stuart via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> Sent: 20 January 2017 00:17 To: Derbyshire genealogy Cc: stuart Subject: Re: [DBY] resumption of WDYTYA Wed 25th Jan 2017 Ian McKellen The Daily Mirror is reporting on the Greg Davies programme.....Will he be dancing around saying they made me an Offa I couldn't refuse? Or did he find it was my relative that killed the dog!!!! A short walk south of the village, following the footpath along the banks of the Glaslyn leads to Beddgelert's most famous historical feature; 'Gelert's Grave'. According to legend, the stone monument in the field marks the resting place of 'Gelert', the faithful hound of the medieval Welsh Prince Llewelyn the Great. The story, as written on the tombstone reads: "In the 13th century Llewelyn, prince of North Wales, had a palace at Beddgelert. One day he went hunting without Gelert, 'The Faithful Hound', who was unaccountably absent. On Llewelyn's return the truant, stained and smeared with blood, joyfully sprang to meet his master. The prince alarmed hastened to find his son, and saw the infant's cot empty, the bedclothes and floor covered with blood. The frantic father plunged his sword into the hound's side, thinking it had killed his heir. The dog's dying yell was answered by a child's cry. Llewelyn searched and discovered his boy unharmed, but nearby lay the body of a mighty wolf which Gelert had slain. The prince filled with remorse is said never to have smiled again. He buried Gelert here". Greg Davies second celeb after Danny Dyer to discover he's descended from kings on Who Do You Think You Are? ________________________________ From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> on behalf of Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> Sent: 12 January 2017 12:55 To: [email protected] Cc: Nivard Ovington Subject: [DBY] resumption of WDYTYA Wed 25th Jan 2017 Ian McKellen Hi all Just to remind you the WDYTYA series resumes on the 25th Jan with Sir Ian McKellen Note its moved to Wednesdays <http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/news/wdytya-series-13-resume-sir-ian-mckellen-episode> WDYTYA? series 13 to resume with Sir Ian McKellen episode | Who Do You Think You Are Magazine<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/news/wdytya-series-13-resume-sir-ian-mckellen-episode> www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com> [http://cdn2.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/623px_275px/12_WEEK_CHALLENGE_Carousel_8.jpg]<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/> Who Do You Think You Are Magazine | Bringing family ...<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/> www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com Explore your ancestry and climb the family history tree with Who Do You Think You Are Magazine, for genealogy advice and discovering your family history. And all the ... - The 13th series of Who Do You Think You Are? will return to our screens in a new Wednesday evening slot, starting with Sir Ian McKellen's episode on 25 January WDYTYA? series 13 to resume with Sir Ian McKellen episode | Who Do You Think You Are Magazine<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/news/wdytya-series-13-resume-sir-ian-mckellen-episode> WDYTYA? series 13 to resume with Sir Ian McKellen episode | Who Do You Think You Are Magazine<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/news/wdytya-series-13-resume-sir-ian-mckellen-episode> www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com - The 13th series of Who Do You Think You Are? will return to our screens in a new Wednesday evening slot, starting with Sir Ian McKellen's episode on 25 January www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com>> [http://cdn2.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/623px_275px/12_WEEK_CHALLENGE_Carousel_8.jpg]<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/> Who Do You Think You Are Magazine | Bringing family ...<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/> www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com> Explore your ancestry and climb the family history tree with Who Do You Think You Are Magazine, for genealogy advice and discovering your family history. 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Greg Davies second celeb after Danny Dyer to discover he's descended from kings on Who Do You Think You Are? My last post should have included this Daily Mirror quote but for some unknown reason left a space. ________________________________ From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> on behalf of stuart via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> Sent: 20 January 2017 00:17 To: Derbyshire genealogy Cc: stuart Subject: Re: [DBY] resumption of WDYTYA Wed 25th Jan 2017 Ian McKellen The Daily Mirror is reporting on the Greg Davies programme.....Will he be dancing around saying they made me an Offa I couldn't refuse? Or did he find it was my relative that killed the dog!!!! A short walk south of the village, following the footpath along the banks of the Glaslyn leads to Beddgelert's most famous historical feature; 'Gelert's Grave'. According to legend, the stone monument in the field marks the resting place of 'Gelert', the faithful hound of the medieval Welsh Prince Llewelyn the Great. The story, as written on the tombstone reads: "In the 13th century Llewelyn, prince of North Wales, had a palace at Beddgelert. One day he went hunting without Gelert, 'The Faithful Hound', who was unaccountably absent. On Llewelyn's return the truant, stained and smeared with blood, joyfully sprang to meet his master. The prince alarmed hastened to find his son, and saw the infant's cot empty, the bedclothes and floor covered with blood. The frantic father plunged his sword into the hound's side, thinking it had killed his heir. The dog's dying yell was answered by a child's cry. Llewelyn searched and discovered his boy unharmed, but nearby lay the body of a mighty wolf which Gelert had slain. The prince filled with remorse is said never to have smiled again. He buried Gelert here". Greg Davies second celeb after Danny Dyer to discover he's descended from kings on Who Do You Think You Are? ________________________________ From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> on behalf of Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> Sent: 12 January 2017 12:55 To: [email protected] Cc: Nivard Ovington Subject: [DBY] resumption of WDYTYA Wed 25th Jan 2017 Ian McKellen Hi all Just to remind you the WDYTYA series resumes on the 25th Jan with Sir Ian McKellen Note its moved to Wednesdays <http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/news/wdytya-series-13-resume-sir-ian-mckellen-episode> WDYTYA? series 13 to resume with Sir Ian McKellen episode | Who Do You Think You Are Magazine<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/news/wdytya-series-13-resume-sir-ian-mckellen-episode> www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com - The 13th series of Who Do You Think You Are? will return to our screens in a new Wednesday evening slot, starting with Sir Ian McKellen's episode on 25 January WDYTYA? series 13 to resume with Sir Ian McKellen episode | Who Do You Think You Are Magazine<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/news/wdytya-series-13-resume-sir-ian-mckellen-episode> www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com> [http://cdn2.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/623px_275px/12_WEEK_CHALLENGE_Carousel_8.jpg]<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/> Who Do You Think You Are Magazine | Bringing family ...<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/> www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com Explore your ancestry and climb the family history tree with Who Do You Think You Are Magazine, for genealogy advice and discovering your family history. And all the ... - The 13th series of Who Do You Think You Are? will return to our screens in a new Wednesday evening slot, starting with Sir Ian McKellen's episode on 25 January -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Daily Mirror is reporting on the Greg Davies programme.....Will he be dancing around saying they made me an Offa I couldn't refuse? Or did he find it was my relative that killed the dog!!!! A short walk south of the village, following the footpath along the banks of the Glaslyn leads to Beddgelert's most famous historical feature; 'Gelert's Grave'. According to legend, the stone monument in the field marks the resting place of 'Gelert', the faithful hound of the medieval Welsh Prince Llewelyn the Great. The story, as written on the tombstone reads: "In the 13th century Llewelyn, prince of North Wales, had a palace at Beddgelert. One day he went hunting without Gelert, 'The Faithful Hound', who was unaccountably absent. On Llewelyn's return the truant, stained and smeared with blood, joyfully sprang to meet his master. The prince alarmed hastened to find his son, and saw the infant's cot empty, the bedclothes and floor covered with blood. The frantic father plunged his sword into the hound's side, thinking it had killed his heir. The dog's dying yell was answered by a child's cry. Llewelyn searched and discovered his boy unharmed, but nearby lay the body of a mighty wolf which Gelert had slain. The prince filled with remorse is said never to have smiled again. He buried Gelert here". Greg Davies second celeb after Danny Dyer to discover he's descended from kings on Who Do You Think You Are? ________________________________ From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> on behalf of Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> Sent: 12 January 2017 12:55 To: [email protected] Cc: Nivard Ovington Subject: [DBY] resumption of WDYTYA Wed 25th Jan 2017 Ian McKellen Hi all Just to remind you the WDYTYA series resumes on the 25th Jan with Sir Ian McKellen Note its moved to Wednesdays <http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/news/wdytya-series-13-resume-sir-ian-mckellen-episode> WDYTYA? series 13 to resume with Sir Ian McKellen episode | Who Do You Think You Are Magazine<http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/news/wdytya-series-13-resume-sir-ian-mckellen-episode> www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com - The 13th series of Who Do You Think You Are? will return to our screens in a new Wednesday evening slot, starting with Sir Ian McKellen's episode on 25 January -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message