To Bob, Annette, Meg, Brett and Ruth - thank you all for your time in deciphering this entry. I'm inclined to go with "Ould Woodhouse['s] wife was buried" - with an awkward O and the upstroke of the d crossing the l. Thank you all again, Rosemary On 06/05/2017 18:40, Rosemary Probert via DERBYSGEN wrote: > I'm asking for help again reading Dronfield Parish Register: > > https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYDV-K3?mode=g&i=107&cc=1911752 > > > 18 Apr 1622 > .... WOODHOUSE wife was buried ye xviiith day

I would disagree, and think that his handwriting is fairly consistent, at least compared with many parish registers that I've seen from this time period. In my view the first character of the word is a capital "O." Compare it with the similar character written on the next page, the entry for 26th May, which I believe reads "The wife of John Owtrem was buried ..." So, I think the first word is indeed "Ould," so "Ould Woodhouse['s] wife buried." Regards and best wishes, Brett Payne Tauranga, New Zealand On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 9:22 PM, meg--- via DERBYSGEN <[email protected] > wrote: > I agree the letter doesn't look quite like other Gs but neither does it > look > much like any other letter! The vicar is inconsistent in how he records > things but does not seem to use a possessive apostrophe, i.e. it is always > wife of, son of, etc so I don't think is says 'xxx Whoodhouses wife' which > would imply it is a woman's name rather than a man's and the wife bit just > gives her status as opposed to widow, which someone else has against their > name. > > Sorry can't help more. I am part way through a Webinar series by the > National archives on reading old documents and everybody so far has done > all > the right things to sort it out but this vicar seems determined to make it > hard for you. > > Good luck. > > Meg Galley-Taylor > > -----Original Message----- > From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: 07 May 2017 08:01 > To: [email protected] > Subject: DERBYSGEN Digest, Vol 12, Issue 114 > > Send DERBYSGEN mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/derbysgen > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of DERBYSGEN digest..." > > > When replying always change the subject line to that of the individual > message which you are responding to. > > Please "SNIP" generously, don't repeat everything again. Including > everything will inflate the size of the next Digest unnecessarily and could > create problems for those who are not on broadband. > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Dronfield Parish Registers - help needed again (Rosemary Probert) > 2. Re: Dronfield Parish Registers - help needed again (Bob Butler) > 3. Re: Dronfield Parish Registers - help needed again > (Annette Watson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 6 May 2017 18:40:12 +0100 > From: Rosemary Probert <[email protected]> > To: Derbyshire Mailing List <[email protected]> > Subject: [DBY] Dronfield Parish Registers - help needed again > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed > > I'm asking for help again reading Dronfield Parish Register: > > https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYDV-K3?mode=g& > i=107&cc=1911752 > > 18 Apr 1622 > .... WOODHOUSE wife was buried ye xviiith day > > I would like it to say something like Alice wife of Edmund - but it > doesn't. > So who is it? > > Thank you, > > Rosemary > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 6 May 2017 23:34:52 +0000 > From: Bob Butler <[email protected]> > To: Derbyshire genealogy <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DBY] Dronfield Parish Registers - help needed again > Message-ID: > > <[email protected] > eurprd02.prod.outl > ook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Rosemary > > The first letter baffles me but I think it is followed by uld The first > letter is similar to G but lacking an upper squiggle which makes me certain > that it is not G > >From the previous page there is a strong similarity to O as in Oates > > Obviously the transcriber was also baffled because in the index below the > forename is also missing. > > Probably not very likely (and definitely not very helpful) but could it be > "Old Woodhouse's wife" > > Bob Butler > Nottingham > > -----Original Message----- > From: DERBYSGEN > [mailto:[email protected]] > On > Behalf Of Rosemary Probert via DERBYSGEN > Sent: 06 May 2017 18:40 > To: Derbyshire Mailing List <[email protected]> > Cc: Rosemary Probert <[email protected]> > Subject: [DBY] Dronfield Parish Registers - help needed again > > I'm asking for help again reading Dronfield Parish Register: > > https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYDV-K3?mode=g& > i=107&cc=1911752 > > 18 Apr 1622 > .... WOODHOUSE wife was buried ye xviiith day > > I would like it to say something like Alice wife of Edmund - but it > doesn't. > So who is it? > > Thank you, > > Rosemary > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 7 May 2017 09:47:41 +1000 > From: Annette Watson <[email protected]> > To: Derbyshire genealogy <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DBY] Dronfield Parish Registers - help needed again > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Hi Rosemary, > > Could it be Giles WOODHOUSE wife was buried 18 Apr 1622 - the first letter > looks like a G the minister is not consistent in writing his records, one > says Grace the wife of Thomas......... was buried, another says The wife of > John............. was buried, and another William ...............s wife was > buried, and yet another Jane BENNETT the wife of George BENNETT was buried. > > Not much help I'm afraid, > > happy hunting, > Annette > > > > At 03:40 AM 7/05/2017, you wrote: > >I'm asking for help again reading Dronfield Parish Register: > > > >https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYDV-K3?mode=g&i=107&cc=19 > >11752 > > > >18 Apr 1622 > >.... WOODHOUSE wife was buried ye xviiith day > > > >I would like it to say something like Alice wife of Edmund - but it > >doesn't. 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If like me you have multiple family tree tabs open then I always seem to end up closing one down rather than going to it. To recover the tab then it's control, shift and t and it will reopen the tab where you were. Joan

Hello Rosemary, The four letters you are struggling to decipher are *O u l d*, See the backward stroke of the *d* again in *Woodhouse* although the vicar/curate uses the more modern form of the letter *d* in the word *buried*. He uses the backward stroke again and again when writing the word *daughter* - but not always. So Bob's theory is correct. Ruth

I agree the letter doesn't look quite like other Gs but neither does it look much like any other letter! The vicar is inconsistent in how he records things but does not seem to use a possessive apostrophe, i.e. it is always wife of, son of, etc so I don't think is says 'xxx Whoodhouses wife' which would imply it is a woman's name rather than a man's and the wife bit just gives her status as opposed to widow, which someone else has against their name. Sorry can't help more. I am part way through a Webinar series by the National archives on reading old documents and everybody so far has done all the right things to sort it out but this vicar seems determined to make it hard for you. Good luck. Meg Galley-Taylor -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 07 May 2017 08:01 To: [email protected] Subject: DERBYSGEN Digest, Vol 12, Issue 114 Send DERBYSGEN mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/derbysgen or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DERBYSGEN digest..." When replying always change the subject line to that of the individual message which you are responding to. Please "SNIP" generously, don't repeat everything again. Including everything will inflate the size of the next Digest unnecessarily and could create problems for those who are not on broadband. Today's Topics: 1. Dronfield Parish Registers - help needed again (Rosemary Probert) 2. Re: Dronfield Parish Registers - help needed again (Bob Butler) 3. Re: Dronfield Parish Registers - help needed again (Annette Watson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 6 May 2017 18:40:12 +0100 From: Rosemary Probert <[email protected]> To: Derbyshire Mailing List <[email protected]> Subject: [DBY] Dronfield Parish Registers - help needed again Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed I'm asking for help again reading Dronfield Parish Register: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYDV-K3?mode=g&i=107&cc=1911752 18 Apr 1622 .... WOODHOUSE wife was buried ye xviiith day I would like it to say something like Alice wife of Edmund - but it doesn't. So who is it? Thank you, Rosemary ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 6 May 2017 23:34:52 +0000 From: Bob Butler <[email protected]> To: Derbyshire genealogy <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] Dronfield Parish Registers - help needed again Message-ID: <[email protected]2.prod.outl ook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Rosemary The first letter baffles me but I think it is followed by uld The first letter is similar to G but lacking an upper squiggle which makes me certain that it is not G >From the previous page there is a strong similarity to O as in Oates Obviously the transcriber was also baffled because in the index below the forename is also missing. Probably not very likely (and definitely not very helpful) but could it be "Old Woodhouse's wife" Bob Butler Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rosemary Probert via DERBYSGEN Sent: 06 May 2017 18:40 To: Derbyshire Mailing List <[email protected]> Cc: Rosemary Probert <[email protected]> Subject: [DBY] Dronfield Parish Registers - help needed again I'm asking for help again reading Dronfield Parish Register: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYDV-K3?mode=g&i=107&cc=1911752 18 Apr 1622 .... WOODHOUSE wife was buried ye xviiith day I would like it to say something like Alice wife of Edmund - but it doesn't. So who is it? Thank you, Rosemary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 7 May 2017 09:47:41 +1000 From: Annette Watson <[email protected]> To: Derbyshire genealogy <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] Dronfield Parish Registers - help needed again Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi Rosemary, Could it be Giles WOODHOUSE wife was buried 18 Apr 1622 - the first letter looks like a G the minister is not consistent in writing his records, one says Grace the wife of Thomas......... was buried, another says The wife of John............. was buried, and another William ...............s wife was buried, and yet another Jane BENNETT the wife of George BENNETT was buried. Not much help I'm afraid, happy hunting, Annette At 03:40 AM 7/05/2017, you wrote: >I'm asking for help again reading Dronfield Parish Register: > >https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYDV-K3?mode=g&i=107&cc=19 >11752 > >18 Apr 1622 >.... WOODHOUSE wife was buried ye xviiith day > >I would like it to say something like Alice wife of Edmund - but it >doesn't. 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Hi Rosemary, Could it be Giles WOODHOUSE wife was buried 18 Apr 1622 - the first letter looks like a G the minister is not consistent in writing his records, one says Grace the wife of Thomas......... was buried, another says The wife of John............. was buried, and another William ...............s wife was buried, and yet another Jane BENNETT the wife of George BENNETT was buried. Not much help I'm afraid, happy hunting, Annette At 03:40 AM 7/05/2017, you wrote: >I'm asking for help again reading Dronfield Parish Register: > >https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYDV-K3?mode=g&i=107&cc=1911752 > >18 Apr 1622 >.... WOODHOUSE wife was buried ye xviiith day > >I would like it to say something like Alice wife of Edmund - but it >doesn't. So who is it? > >Thank you, > >Rosemary > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Rosemary The first letter baffles me but I think it is followed by uld The first letter is similar to G but lacking an upper squiggle which makes me certain that it is not G >From the previous page there is a strong similarity to O as in Oates Obviously the transcriber was also baffled because in the index below the forename is also missing. Probably not very likely (and definitely not very helpful) but could it be "Old Woodhouse's wife" Bob Butler Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rosemary Probert via DERBYSGEN Sent: 06 May 2017 18:40 To: Derbyshire Mailing List <[email protected]> Cc: Rosemary Probert <[email protected]> Subject: [DBY] Dronfield Parish Registers - help needed again I'm asking for help again reading Dronfield Parish Register: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYDV-K3?mode=g&i=107&cc=1911752 18 Apr 1622 .... WOODHOUSE wife was buried ye xviiith day I would like it to say something like Alice wife of Edmund - but it doesn't. So who is it? Thank you, Rosemary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm asking for help again reading Dronfield Parish Register: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYDV-K3?mode=g&i=107&cc=1911752 18 Apr 1622 .... WOODHOUSE wife was buried ye xviiith day I would like it to say something like Alice wife of Edmund - but it doesn't. So who is it? Thank you, Rosemary

Thank you Nivard, that's just the confirmation I wanted Rosemary On 04/05/2017 17:20, Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN wrote: > > It certainly looks like "Three infants, children of" > > A few below it is an entry "An Infant" > > All others are named, suggesting the above died in childbirth or > soon after and were unnamed > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 04-May-17 4:38 PM, Rosemary Probert via DERBYSGEN wrote: >> Evening All, >> >> I'm still working my way through Dronfield registers - which are >> really rather easy to read if only I was more proficient with the >> script :-) >> >> The last entry in December 1638: >> >> Does it say: Three Infants children of Richard MOODIE were buried >> the xxixth day ? >> >> FamilySearch has indexed it three times, but it's the first time >> I've some across triplets in my family history, so I do want to be >> sure. >> >> Their mother was buried on the 17th January >> >> https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYD2-TH?mode=g&i=147&cc=1911752

It certainly looks like "Three infants, children of" A few below it is an entry "An Infant" All others are named, suggesting the above died in childbirth or soon after and were unnamed Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 04-May-17 4:38 PM, Rosemary Probert via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Evening All, > > I'm still working my way through Dronfield registers - which are really > rather easy to read if only I was more proficient with the script :-) > > The last entry in December 1638: > > Does it say: > Three Infants children of Richard MOODIE were buried the xxixth day ? > > FamilySearch has indexed it three times, but it's the first time I've > some across triplets in my family history, so I do want to be sure. > > Their mother was buried on the 17th January > > https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYD2-TH?mode=g&i=147&cc=1911752 > > > Thank you, > > Rosemary

Evening All, I'm still working my way through Dronfield registers - which are really rather easy to read if only I was more proficient with the script :-) The last entry in December 1638: Does it say: Three Infants children of Richard MOODIE were buried the xxixth day ? FamilySearch has indexed it three times, but it's the first time I've some across triplets in my family history, so I do want to be sure. Their mother was buried on the 17th January https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYD2-TH?mode=g&i=147&cc=1911752 Thank you, Rosemary

Its more likely to be Unstone in Dronfield Parish > On 4 May 2017, at 12:43, Bob Butler via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > I would say Foston = a small village 12 miles west of Derby > > Bob > Nottingham > > -----Original Message----- > From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rosemary Probert via DERBYSGEN > Sent: 04 May 2017 08:24 > To: Derbyshire Mailing List <[email protected]> > Cc: Rosemary Probert <[email protected]> > Subject: [DBY] Help needed reading Dronfield register > > Can someone help me read the name of the place Edmund WOODHOUSE came from in Dronfield parish register please. > > https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYDP-72?mode=g&i=110&cc=1911752 > > His entry is the third one in October 1623 > > Edmund WOODHOUSE of ...ston was buried ye iiith day ?? > > Thank you, > > Rosemary > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Joan, Sorry - but no. WOOODHOUSEes only turn up in my tree when Elizabeth married James MARPLES in 1632. She was one of Edmond's daughter and my 10x great grandmother. I'm trying to fill in some of the gaps in his family at the moment, Happy hunting, Rosemary On 04/05/2017 09:42, Joan M wrote: > Hi Rosemary, > > I'm very interested to see that you are looking at WOODHOUSE's - my grandma > was a WOODHOUSE who I've traced back to Atlow in the 1700's. I was just > wondering if you have come across this branch of the family? > > Best wishes > > Joan

I would say Foston = a small village 12 miles west of Derby Bob Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rosemary Probert via DERBYSGEN Sent: 04 May 2017 08:24 To: Derbyshire Mailing List <[email protected]> Cc: Rosemary Probert <[email protected]> Subject: [DBY] Help needed reading Dronfield register Can someone help me read the name of the place Edmund WOODHOUSE came from in Dronfield parish register please. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYDP-72?mode=g&i=110&cc=1911752 His entry is the third one in October 1623 Edmund WOODHOUSE of ...ston was buried ye iiith day ?? Thank you, Rosemary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Am 04.05.2017 um 09:27 schrieb Rita Effnert via DERBYSGEN: > > > Am 04.05.2017 um 09:23 schrieb Rosemary Probert via DERBYSGEN: >> Can someone help me read the name of the place Edmund WOODHOUSE came >> from in Dronfield parish register please. >> >> https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYDP-72?mode=g&i=110&cc=1911752 >> >> >> His entry is the third one in October 1623 >> >> Edmund WOODHOUSE of ...ston was buried ye iiith day ?? >> >> Thank you, >> >> Rosemary >> >> I would say Dunston... Rita in Germany > Could be Unstone... we learned at school... "Unstone, Dunston, Monkey > Park and Brushes...... Ritza in Gernany >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Am 04.05.2017 um 09:23 schrieb Rosemary Probert via DERBYSGEN: > Can someone help me read the name of the place Edmund WOODHOUSE came > from in Dronfield parish register please. > > https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYDP-72?mode=g&i=110&cc=1911752 > > > His entry is the third one in October 1623 > > Edmund WOODHOUSE of ...ston was buried ye iiith day ?? > > Thank you, > > Rosemary > > I would say Dunston... Rita in Germany > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you :-) That was quick! Rosemary On 04/05/2017 08:27, Rita Effnert via DERBYSGEN wrote: > > > Am 04.05.2017 um 09:23 schrieb Rosemary Probert via DERBYSGEN: >> Can someone help me read the name of the place Edmund WOODHOUSE came >> from in Dronfield parish register please. >> >> https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYDP-72?mode=g&i=110&cc=1911752 >> >> >> His entry is the third one in October 1623 >> >> Edmund WOODHOUSE of ...ston was buried ye iiith day ?? >> >> Thank you, >> >> Rosemary >> >> I would say Dunston... Rita in Germany

Can someone help me read the name of the place Edmund WOODHOUSE came from in Dronfield parish register please. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYDP-72?mode=g&i=110&cc=1911752 His entry is the third one in October 1623 Edmund WOODHOUSE of ...ston was buried ye iiith day ?? Thank you, Rosemary

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