As to the original question, my MIL was born in 1904, so well past the 100 year mark now. Oh well, not perfect, but still valuable to have these records online. Carolyn On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 6:39 AM Sheila Khan <sheilamkhan@gmail.com> wrote: > I had my father and aunt's records opened by emailing FMP a copy of their > death certificates. My mothers record I found open even though she was 17 > at the time. She was living with her employer as she was "in service". > > On 13 May 2018 at 09:16, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > You are correct Margaret > > > > There is a facility at Findmypast to submit a proof of death (usually a > > death certificate) to have a record opened, its free if you are a > > Findmypast subscriber > > > > You can also do the same with the National Archives, although there is a > > hefty charge for that (£25?) > > > > Ancestry do not have that facility but will open those that go over 100 > > years since birth on an annual basis > > > > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > On 13-May-18 8:21 AM, Margaret Siudek wrote: > > > >> I think you can send proof of your mother's death and have her name > >> 'opened' as it were. I didn't bother for my Mum, as I only had to wait a > >> couple of years, and I knew she'd was there and would be shown in due > >> course.. and indeed her name appeared soon after the date expected.. I > >> was more interested in finding people I didn't have an address for, or > >> to find out where they had disappeared to after 1911! > >> > >> Margaret > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysge > > n@rootsweb.com/ > > > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysge > > n@rootsweb.com/ > > > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > > > -- > Sheila Khan > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Carolyn Hastings Madison AL

The page which has my grandparents with my dad and his siblings has the black lines at an angle and higher up the page than they should be, so some people who should be redacted are visible and vice versa! And some are partially redacted. Alan Bloor Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: Kathy Wadlow <katatthefarm@live.co.uk> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 1:28:11 PM To: derbys gen Subject: [DBY]THE 1939 REGISTER Interesting reading all the different experiences re 1939 Register, my experience was that the information was redacted when it first became available on FMP and then some months afterwards it was opened. I actually took it up with FMP as I was curious to know what had been the trigger to do so but other than an apology and it being redacted again I could not get an answer to the question of exactly what had been found/produced to make the error. On the blog.findmypast.co.uk I found the following, dated 16th March 2016:- The Heading was 'Redaction & the 1939 Register and in answer to a question from someone asking if a death certificate had to be purchased if the person was born less than 100 yrs ago the answer was "Hi G., if that person was born less than 100 yrs. ago and is still alive we can't open the record publicly. If they died prior to 1991 their record will be open." O.K., we all know that, but then:- "If they died after 1991 we can open it up upon receipt of proof of death. This is a Legal requirement and beyond our control" October 16th 2016. I know they do 'cross referencing of data' they hold but how can this be a receipt of proof of a death that hasn't occurred and which apparently is a Legal requirement for them to have? Kathy in Kent Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Interesting reading all the different experiences re 1939 Register, my experience was that the information was redacted when it first became available on FMP and then some months afterwards it was opened. I actually took it up with FMP as I was curious to know what had been the trigger to do so but other than an apology and it being redacted again I could not get an answer to the question of exactly what had been found/produced to make the error. On the blog.findmypast.co.uk I found the following, dated 16th March 2016:- The Heading was 'Redaction & the 1939 Register and in answer to a question from someone asking if a death certificate had to be purchased if the person was born less than 100 yrs ago the answer was "Hi G., if that person was born less than 100 yrs. ago and is still alive we can't open the record publicly. If they died prior to 1991 their record will be open." O.K., we all know that, but then:- "If they died after 1991 we can open it up upon receipt of proof of death. This is a Legal requirement and beyond our control" October 16th 2016. I know they do 'cross referencing of data' they hold but how can this be a receipt of proof of a death that hasn't occurred and which apparently is a Legal requirement for them to have? Kathy in Kent Sent from my iPad

Quite so Margaret With later deaths there is a date of birth so can be cross referenced to a point, but there are still opportunities for errors to occur as in your case Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 13-May-18 10:09 AM, Marjorie Ward via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Nivard wrote: > > Findmypast are also cross referencing registered deaths in England/Wales > and opening records where possible > > This may be why my brother, who died in 2000,  was covered when FMP > first published the register but later was uncovered despite no one > getting in touch with the company.  Later I too was uncovered - but as > you can see I am still here :) > > Marjorie Ward Derbyshire, UK

Nivard wrote: Findmypast are also cross referencing registered deaths in England/Wales and opening records where possible This may be why my brother, who died in 2000, was covered when FMP first published the register but later was uncovered despite no one getting in touch with the company. Later I too was uncovered - but as you can see I am still here :) Marjorie Ward Derbyshire, UK Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dusk

I must say I was a bit narked at a completely new experience. When I viewed the entry which should have shown me, aged three, staying with my grandmother in Chesterfield, in putative safety from the bombing in Kent (my parents were at our home at the time), I was actually redacted! Kind regards Joy ________________________________ From: Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> Sent: 13 May 2018 09:16 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Re: 1939 Register -- Missing family members? You are correct Margaret There is a facility at Findmypast to submit a proof of death (usually a death certificate) to have a record opened, its free if you are a Findmypast subscriber You can also do the same with the National Archives, although there is a hefty charge for that (£25?) Ancestry do not have that facility but will open those that go over 100 years since birth on an annual basis Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 13-May-18 8:21 AM, Margaret Siudek wrote: > I think you can send proof of your mother's death and have her name > 'opened' as it were. I didn't bother for my Mum, as I only had to wait a > couple of years, and I knew she'd was there and would be shown in due > course.. and indeed her name appeared soon after the date expected.. I > was more interested in finding people I didn't have an address for, or > to find out where they had disappeared to after 1911! > > Margaret _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I had my father and aunt's records opened by emailing FMP a copy of their death certificates. My mothers record I found open even though she was 17 at the time. She was living with her employer as she was "in service". On 13 May 2018 at 09:16, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > You are correct Margaret > > There is a facility at Findmypast to submit a proof of death (usually a > death certificate) to have a record opened, its free if you are a > Findmypast subscriber > > You can also do the same with the National Archives, although there is a > hefty charge for that (£25?) > > Ancestry do not have that facility but will open those that go over 100 > years since birth on an annual basis > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 13-May-18 8:21 AM, Margaret Siudek wrote: > >> I think you can send proof of your mother's death and have her name >> 'opened' as it were. I didn't bother for my Mum, as I only had to wait a >> couple of years, and I knew she'd was there and would be shown in due >> course.. and indeed her name appeared soon after the date expected.. I >> was more interested in finding people I didn't have an address for, or >> to find out where they had disappeared to after 1911! >> >> Margaret >> > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysge > n@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysge > n@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Sheila Khan

You are correct Margaret There is a facility at Findmypast to submit a proof of death (usually a death certificate) to have a record opened, its free if you are a Findmypast subscriber You can also do the same with the National Archives, although there is a hefty charge for that (£25?) Ancestry do not have that facility but will open those that go over 100 years since birth on an annual basis Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 13-May-18 8:21 AM, Margaret Siudek wrote: > I think you can send proof of your mother's death and have her name > 'opened' as it were. I didn't bother for my Mum, as I only had to wait a > couple of years, and I knew she'd was there and would be shown in due > course.. and indeed her name appeared soon after the date expected.. I > was more interested in finding people I didn't have an address for, or > to find out where they had disappeared to after 1911! > > Margaret

I can give you an earlier one than that - my husband (very much still alive !) was born on 3rd September 1939 and is shown clearly on the 1939 Register living with his parents in Derby !! Prunella. From: Peter Lee Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 8:31 PM To: Derbyshire genealogy Subject: [DBY]Re: 1939 Registration I just found another strange apparent mistake. This time it’s a record that should have been blocked but which is visible. The lady in question was 3 in 1939 ! Her record was clearly marked as “below school age”. It’s visible along with her married name. We had a look to see if she had died but found nothing so I won’t give her name. Peter

Hi Carolyn No connections to the pensions or other government departments as far as I am aware Anyone who died abroad or outside of England/Wales would be opened after 100 years has passed from their births, or a death certificate provided to either Findmypast (free) or the National Archives (£25 is I remember rightly) My father in law died in America and I had to supply a copy of his American death certificate to have his record opened by Findmypast I understand Ancestry are updating and opening those over 100 years since birth but have no facility to accept death certificates to open records, it would need to be via Findmypast or the National Archives Findmypast are also cross referencing registered deaths in England/Wales and opening records where possible Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 12-May-18 11:20 PM, Carolyn Hastings wrote: > Nivard, do you know how the deaths will eventually be confirmed, so that > the information is made visible? Obviously they know that my husband's > father and uncle were deceased, but not that my MIL or husband have died. > > Both moved to the US many years ago, but at death the Pensions Dept was > notified. Is that sort of information ever connected? Or will it have to > wait 100 years before being made available? > > Thanks again for the enlightenment. > > Carolyn > > Carolyn Hastings > Madison AL

I think you can send proof of your mother's death and have her name 'opened' as it were. I didn't bother for my Mum, as I only had to wait a couple of years, and I knew she'd was there and would be shown in due course.. and indeed her name appeared soon after the date expected.. I was more interested in finding people I didn't have an address for, or to find out where they had disappeared to after 1911! Margaret On 13/05/2018 07:53, Sue Herrington wrote: > Lynne > > Your father's WWII service records can be obtained from the MoD and if he > is still alive he can obtain them free of charge. No need to wait 100 years! > > Sue in Notts > > On Sun, 13 May 2018, 00:14 Lynne Simpson, <lsimpson@netspeed.com.au> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I, too, have looked at the 1939 Register. My father, who is still alive at >> 96, is recorded with his grandparents while my mother, who died nearly 15 >> years ago, is blacked out in her family grouping. >> >> Reason: we have lived in Australia since 1959 and so no-one would be aware >> that this was the case. >> >> In my father's case, I have been trying to find out about his RAF service >> during WWII. Of course, I can't because these records were archived and >> closed for 100 years. Just a few more years to go! >> >> An interesting note: my Garlick family lived at Bankbottom in Hadfield, >> almost opposite the site of the Waterside Mill. My father enlisted in RAF >> and was part of 275 AMES which appears to have been a mobile radar unit. >> This unit was sent to Bowlee near Middleton for training. Bowlee housed the >> No 10 Barrage Balloon Centre and I believe those Balloons were woven at >> Waterside!! The pub adjacent to the Balloon Centre was the Jolly Butcher >> previously known as the Pack Horse. Again, with judicious digging, I found >> out that this pub had been run by another member of the family in 1841. Dad >> was quite tickled by the whole thing. >> >> Cheers >> Lynne Simpson >> Canberra Australia >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ >> >> Archives: >> https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ >> >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com

Lynne Your father's WWII service records can be obtained from the MoD and if he is still alive he can obtain them free of charge. No need to wait 100 years! Sue in Notts On Sun, 13 May 2018, 00:14 Lynne Simpson, <lsimpson@netspeed.com.au> wrote: > Hi > > I, too, have looked at the 1939 Register. My father, who is still alive at > 96, is recorded with his grandparents while my mother, who died nearly 15 > years ago, is blacked out in her family grouping. > > Reason: we have lived in Australia since 1959 and so no-one would be aware > that this was the case. > > In my father's case, I have been trying to find out about his RAF service > during WWII. Of course, I can't because these records were archived and > closed for 100 years. Just a few more years to go! > > An interesting note: my Garlick family lived at Bankbottom in Hadfield, > almost opposite the site of the Waterside Mill. My father enlisted in RAF > and was part of 275 AMES which appears to have been a mobile radar unit. > This unit was sent to Bowlee near Middleton for training. Bowlee housed the > No 10 Barrage Balloon Centre and I believe those Balloons were woven at > Waterside!! The pub adjacent to the Balloon Centre was the Jolly Butcher > previously known as the Pack Horse. Again, with judicious digging, I found > out that this pub had been run by another member of the family in 1841. Dad > was quite tickled by the whole thing. > > Cheers > Lynne Simpson > Canberra Australia > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi I, too, have looked at the 1939 Register. My father, who is still alive at 96, is recorded with his grandparents while my mother, who died nearly 15 years ago, is blacked out in her family grouping. Reason: we have lived in Australia since 1959 and so no-one would be aware that this was the case. In my father's case, I have been trying to find out about his RAF service during WWII. Of course, I can't because these records were archived and closed for 100 years. Just a few more years to go! An interesting note: my Garlick family lived at Bankbottom in Hadfield, almost opposite the site of the Waterside Mill. My father enlisted in RAF and was part of 275 AMES which appears to have been a mobile radar unit. This unit was sent to Bowlee near Middleton for training. Bowlee housed the No 10 Barrage Balloon Centre and I believe those Balloons were woven at Waterside!! The pub adjacent to the Balloon Centre was the Jolly Butcher previously known as the Pack Horse. Again, with judicious digging, I found out that this pub had been run by another member of the family in 1841. Dad was quite tickled by the whole thing. Cheers Lynne Simpson Canberra Australia --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

The records were used as part of the NHS system up until a year which I cannot recall at this time. Since they were released on FMP they updated them to a degree and people researching others provided death certificates to allow them to be viewable. As the records are no longer "active" it will require a researcher (family member) or the company presenting it to their subscribers to update it. The only other way is when the age of 100 is passed when it should automatically become visible. That is how I understand it. Bob Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: Carolyn Hastings <carolynhastings4@gmail.com> Sent: 12 May 2018 23:20 To: Derbyshire genealogy <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DBY]Re: 1939 Register -- Missing family members? Nivard, do you know how the deaths will eventually be confirmed, so that the information is made visible? Obviously they know that my husband's father and uncle were deceased, but not that my MIL or husband have died. Both moved to the US many years ago, but at death the Pensions Dept was notified. Is that sort of information ever connected? Or will it have to wait 100 years before being made available? Thanks again for the enlightenment. Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Madison AL On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Carolyn > > It means the records for those individuals are still closed, they may > be (and probably are) the two you expect to find there > > Closed records are those born within 100 years and have not have their > deaths confirmed > > You should be able to see how many lines (ie people) are in the same > household > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 12-May-18 10:45 PM, Carolyn Hastings wrote: > >> Hello List, >> >> Does anyone have an explanation for an entry in the 1939 Register, >> where two family members (who are pretty much sure to be there) are missing? >> Just under the entry there are two of the black lines that say "The >> Record is officially closed". I think that I can see writing on that >> line -- but not enough to be legible. There are many such lines on >> every page of the register. >> >> Can anyone explain? >> >> Thanks, >> Carolyn >> > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysge > n@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysge > n@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Nivard, do you know how the deaths will eventually be confirmed, so that the information is made visible? Obviously they know that my husband's father and uncle were deceased, but not that my MIL or husband have died. Both moved to the US many years ago, but at death the Pensions Dept was notified. Is that sort of information ever connected? Or will it have to wait 100 years before being made available? Thanks again for the enlightenment. Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Madison AL On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Carolyn > > It means the records for those individuals are still closed, they may be > (and probably are) the two you expect to find there > > Closed records are those born within 100 years and have not have their > deaths confirmed > > You should be able to see how many lines (ie people) are in the same > household > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 12-May-18 10:45 PM, Carolyn Hastings wrote: > >> Hello List, >> >> Does anyone have an explanation for an entry in the 1939 Register, where >> two family members (who are pretty much sure to be there) are missing? >> Just under the entry there are two of the black lines that say "The Record >> is officially closed". I think that I can see writing on that line -- but >> not enough to be legible. There are many such lines on every page of the >> register. >> >> Can anyone explain? >> >> Thanks, >> Carolyn >> > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysge > n@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysge > n@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi Carolyn It means the records for those individuals are still closed, they may be (and probably are) the two you expect to find there Closed records are those born within 100 years and have not have their deaths confirmed You should be able to see how many lines (ie people) are in the same household Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 12-May-18 10:45 PM, Carolyn Hastings wrote: > Hello List, > > Does anyone have an explanation for an entry in the 1939 Register, where > two family members (who are pretty much sure to be there) are missing? > Just under the entry there are two of the black lines that say "The Record > is officially closed". I think that I can see writing on that line -- but > not enough to be legible. There are many such lines on every page of the > register. > > Can anyone explain? > > Thanks, > Carolyn

Hello List, Does anyone have an explanation for an entry in the 1939 Register, where two family members (who are pretty much sure to be there) are missing? Just under the entry there are two of the black lines that say "The Record is officially closed". I think that I can see writing on that line -- but not enough to be legible. There are many such lines on every page of the register. Can anyone explain? Thanks, Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Madison AL

Sorry, Nigel, I had thought that the images reflected the original record. Nowhere does it say that it is a transcription, so I'm glad for the clarification. Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Madison AL On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > Keep in mind that the images we see online are in themselves transcripts > > Transcripts of the household schedules, each time information is > transcribed it leaves room for errors to creep in > > And some "errors" are the individuals giving the information, wanting to > appear younger or older or whatever they wished to be known > > Most though gave true information as their identity cards and ration books > were based on it > > Unsure what you mean by limited view? > > Everyone will see the same thing > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >

Hi, Nick, > If you are close to a public library, you could view everything on Ancestry, and probably> Find My Past too (i.e. their worldwide subscriptions) for free. I've been going through the Derbyshire web pages for Genuki and adding local library information.  Some of the parishes have their own Local History and Family Research sections which I've always found a good resource.  But for many parishes, the closest thing to a library is a bookmobile which comes by once a month.  I actually drove a bookmobile for a couple of months as a young man.  The Librarian was always willing to bring any "special requests" on our trip and that proved valuable to many clients.  You learn a lot about inertia and stopping distance when you drive a bookmobile! So see if the main library has a Directory published in a year that covers your family's stay in a parish and ask the bookmobile librarian to bring it 'round next trip.  Yeah, you;ll actually have to hold the book in your hands because it's likely not online, but old books have a fascination of their own.  Try it!       Lou Mills, Genuki maintainer for DBY, LEI, LIN and NTT.

Hi Peter Just because you can't find her proof of death does not mean she didn't pass away For example, if someone was in England in 1939 and appears as say three, but she died in Scotland, there would not be proof of her death in England But if a researcher provided that proof by a Scottish death cert, the record could be opened, there is no indication on the opened record to show why it was opened That is not to say there are mistakes in the opening of records, there are Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 12-May-18 8:31 PM, Peter Lee wrote: > I just found another strange apparent mistake. This time it’s a record that should have been blocked but which is visible. The lady in question was 3 in 1939 ! Her record was clearly marked as “below school age”. It’s visible along with her married name. > We had a look to see if she had died but found nothing so I won’t give her name. > Peter