I was reminded today that the new WDYTYA is about to start The new series of Who Do You Think You Are starts Wednesday 6th June at 9pm on BBC1 (shortly after on iplayer) The line up for series 15 is :- Michelle Keegan Olivia Colman Boy George Shirley Ballas Lee Mack Marvin Humes Judge Rinder Jonnie Peacock No idea who most of those are, Boy George, Lee Mack and Jonnie Peacock I have heard of but the rest are a mystery to me Still, sometimes the ones you don't recognise can be the more interesting but time will tell on that I am sure the full series line up is somewhere on the BBC site, darned if I could find it though, I had to sink to the Sun via google to find it -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

I've been looking at the burial image of the above in Hognaston (if anyone has access it's page 33/50). Can anyone help me decipher what is written in the 'who performed the ceremony' column please - his father was Joseph WEBSTER, a baker. Thanks Joan

Hi Maria, I have a whole bundle of references to Derbys Quaker BARTRAMs picked up while researching their co-settler in PA (Chester County), George WILCOCKSON from Biggin by Hulland. I'll contact you offlist so I can tell you what sources and details I hold - I guess it's possible you already have all of them. For anyone researching the earliest Derbyshire Quakers, the most comprehensive secondary source I found was "Derbyshire Quakers 1650-1761" by Helen Forde, PhD Thesis (1977) which is available online. For those Quakers who settled in Chester County, the History of Chester County, Pennsylvania by J Smith Futhey & Gilbert Cope (1881) is also available online. If there's trouble finding them online, contact me offlist and I can help. Besse's Sufferings is always a useful source too, again available online or in archives & reference libraries. An extensive Quaker archive that includes the main original documents for the Derbyshire Quakers from the earliest dates is held at Nottinghamshire Archives. Some records for Derbyshire Quakers are also in the Yorkshire Quaker archives held at the Brotherton Library in Leeds. Other relevant items have found their way into Derbys RO, Chesterfield Library and Staffordshire Archives. An exhibition of how the various sources relevant to early Quakers can be used to find British roots for migrants to the USA is my WILCOCKSON case study, available at the Chesterfield & District FHS website (or send a request to me by email). Hope this helps you Maria. Regards, Celia Renshaw in Sheffield UK Blog: www.morgansite.wordpress.com On 30 May 2018 at 14:02, Marla Fullerton <marlarae68@gmail.com> wrote: > This was written at the beginning of the 1700's in a letter to Archibald > Bartram: > my father and uncle died, so the best account I could have "was > from my grandmother, who lived some years after. She told me > that my great grandfather's name was Richard Bartram. He > lived in Derbyshire, and his father before him. Richard Bar- > tram had one son, called John, who married my grandmother, in > Derby. They settled in the town of Ashburn, in the Peak, where > they lived, and had three sons and one daughter. From thence > they removed to Pennsylvania, before there was one house in > Philadelphia. > I know they were Quakers and came with Penn.I don,t know their meeting or > anything else about the Grandmothers maiden name. I really am interested in > working this family back to England as far as I can take it as this is a > brick wall > with Richard and Richard and knowing that John settled in Ashburn after he > married but from where. > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 5:04 AM, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > ......still breathing ;-) > > > > We currently have 590 subscribers to Derbysgen, although you wouldn't > know > > it would you > > > > Surely you haven't all finished your research ? (whatever finished is) > > > > Some of those 590 must have some questions to ask ? > > > > Brick walls to knock down ? > > > > Burning questions regarding a location or situation or occupation ? > > > > Remember the only silly question is the one you don't ask :-) > > > > -- > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysge > > n@rootsweb.com/ > > > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysge > > n@rootsweb.com/ > > > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ > derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ > derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

This was written at the beginning of the 1700's in a letter to Archibald Bartram: my father and uncle died, so the best account I could have "was from my grandmother, who lived some years after. She told me that my great grandfather's name was Richard Bartram. He lived in Derbyshire, and his father before him. Richard Bar- tram had one son, called John, who married my grandmother, in Derby. They settled in the town of Ashburn, in the Peak, where they lived, and had three sons and one daughter. From thence they removed to Pennsylvania, before there was one house in Philadelphia. I know they were Quakers and came with Penn.I don,t know their meeting or anything else about the Grandmothers maiden name. I really am interested in working this family back to England as far as I can take it as this is a brick wall with Richard and Richard and knowing that John settled in Ashburn after he married but from where. On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 5:04 AM, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > ......still breathing ;-) > > We currently have 590 subscribers to Derbysgen, although you wouldn't know > it would you > > Surely you haven't all finished your research ? (whatever finished is) > > Some of those 590 must have some questions to ask ? > > Brick walls to knock down ? > > Burning questions regarding a location or situation or occupation ? > > Remember the only silly question is the one you don't ask :-) > > -- > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysge > n@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysge > n@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi Nivard I'm still around and interested in these DBY families:- POUNTAIN, SALISBURY, MOORCROFT, (Boylestone) STEVENS, ANTILL, DALBY, BENTLEY, STANFIELD, CADE, (Ockbrook and Spondon) to name but a few. Any fellow researchers out there? Kind regards Joy ________________________________ From: Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> Sent: 30 May 2018 11:04 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Anyone............. ......still breathing ;-) We currently have 590 subscribers to Derbysgen, although you wouldn't know it would you Surely you haven't all finished your research ? (whatever finished is) Some of those 590 must have some questions to ask ? Brick walls to knock down ? Burning questions regarding a location or situation or occupation ? Remember the only silly question is the one you don't ask :-) -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Jennifer I can only repeat what John has also found, medal card & medal roll As you are no doubt aware roughly two thirds of service records were lost in WW2, his appear to have been lost as most of my lots were The downgrading comment is a little harsh IMHO It means he was required as an acting corporal where he was serving, then on change of theatre of war there was not a need for so many NCOs and he reverted to private Forgive me if its been suggested already, but one ploy that can pay dividends is to search out those in the same regiment with a service number close to yours, it does not mean they served together but there may be clues from where they served and perhaps one can be found with a surviving service record Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/05/2018 12:25, Jennifer wrote: > Hi Nivard > Still here, if anyone could advise where I could locate > information for my Grandfather CHARLES HASWELL > who was in the RAMC in WW1. I have been in contact with > the Buxton advertiser and nothing is located there. He was > discharged as Acting Corporal however this was then down graded to Private > I would love to find where he was in WW1. As normal he never spoke about > the war > Any other suggestions may help > > Jen (NSW)

Re Jennifer's query ... '... if anyone could advise where I could locate information for my Grandfather CHARLES HASWELL who was in the RAMC in WW1. He was discharged as Acting Corporal however this was then down graded to Private. I would love to find where he was in WW1. As normal he never spoke about the war. Any other suggestions may help Jen (NSW)' Was this A/Cpl 64919 ? He won the Victory and British War Medals, and was 'Reverted to private on change of theatre of war 22.1.1919'. Apart from his medal card and the medal roll there is nothing obvious. Unfortunately there is no indication of which unit or hospital he might have been attached to. As he survived, there is no additional unit info that might have been on the CWGC site. Probably nothing here that you don't already know. Good hunting John Frearson

Hi Nivard Still here, if anyone could advise where I could locate information for my Grandfather CHARLES HASWELL who was in the RAMC in WW1. I have been in contact with the Buxton advertiser and nothing is located there. He was discharged as Acting Corporal however this was then down graded to Private I would love to find where he was in WW1. As normal he never spoke about the war Any other suggestions may help Jen (NSW) > On 30 May 2018, at 8:04 pm, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > > ......still breathing ;-) > > We currently have 590 subscribers to Derbysgen, although you wouldn't know it would you > > Surely you haven't all finished your research ? (whatever finished is) > > Some of those 590 must have some questions to ask ? > > Brick walls to knock down ? > > Burning questions regarding a location or situation or occupation ? > > Remember the only silly question is the one you don't ask :-) > > -- > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Main research interests in Derbyshire BARBER - Chapel en le Frith parish and Glossop parish HOLLINGWORTH - Glossop parish HYDE - Glossop parish EDWARDS - originally from Yorkshire but from 1890 at least at Chapel Milton, Glossop p. FIDLER - Derbyshire - Cheshire border FORD - Chinley, Glossop parish Marjorie Ward Derbyshire, UK Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dusk

Well Nivard I will try again, although I never had results before. I am researching my BOWEN side and all in Derby. My father was Kenneth George Bowen (1916-1978) and my mother was Jean Mary Hilton (1921-1999), grandparents were George Thomas Bowen(1888-1955), Ethel May(1891-1959), Frank Hilton(1884-1925), Hilda Annie Allsop(1891-1965) Does anyone have any links to any of these people ? I have been able to trace the Allsop end back to 1151 where Hugh de Alsop, a younger son of Gamellus, went with Richard I on the Third Crusade (1189-91) to the Holy Land. He was captain of a company under the command of Sir Ralph de Lyleburne, who was colonel of four companies. The king recognized Hugh's bravery and competence by bestowing upon him the Order of Knightbood, and as a further honor, permitting him to select his own personal design to wear on the front of his shield. The "Achievement of Arms" as these identifying symbols were later known, was to have six falcon's heads on the shield. Hugh married the niece of Sir Ralph (by his sister), the daughter of Rober de Farington, and received lands in Derbyshire to live as a returning hero Great info but the Bowen side is somewhat of a dead end. Steve Bowen -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington [mailto:ovington.one@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 6:05 AM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Anyone............. ......still breathing ;-) We currently have 590 subscribers to Derbysgen, although you wouldn't know it would you Surely you haven't all finished your research ? (whatever finished is) Some of those 590 must have some questions to ask ? Brick walls to knock down ? Burning questions regarding a location or situation or occupation ? Remember the only silly question is the one you don't ask :-) -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Nivard, I'm one of the quiet ones while writing my novel based on great-granny Isabella CLAVERING's life. Only one Derbyshire location features in that, ie. Dronfield in the period 1873-1883 when Wilson-Cammell steelworks were located there. I would very much like to correspond with anyone who knows anything of Dronfield's history and families during those ten years, particularly to learn more about steel-working, schools, pubs, football, leisure activities and the families who moved when Wilson-Cammell did (lock, stock and furnace) to Workington in Cumberland, in 1883. Local names I'm researching in that area: DANFORTH; REANEY, PRICE and of course RENSHAW. Celia Renshaw in Sheffield UK Blog: www.morgansite.wordpress.com On 30 May 2018 at 11:04, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > ......still breathing ;-) > > We currently have 590 subscribers to Derbysgen, although you wouldn't know > it would you > > Surely you haven't all finished your research ? (whatever finished is) > > Some of those 590 must have some questions to ask ? > > Brick walls to knock down ? > > Burning questions regarding a location or situation or occupation ? > > Remember the only silly question is the one you don't ask :-) > > -- > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysge > n@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysge > n@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

......still breathing ;-) We currently have 590 subscribers to Derbysgen, although you wouldn't know it would you Surely you haven't all finished your research ? (whatever finished is) Some of those 590 must have some questions to ask ? Brick walls to knock down ? Burning questions regarding a location or situation or occupation ? Remember the only silly question is the one you don't ask :-) -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

>Karen, Archivist posted: " Join us on Monday 4th >June for a free study day dedicated to the >Pentrich Revolution, which celebrated its >bicentenary last year. The event is here at >the record office and hosted by the Pentrich & >South Wingfield Revolution Group. Here's what you" >Respond to this post by replying above this line > > >New post on Derbyshire Record Office > > > >[] > ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/author/karriem/> >[] > > ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2018/05/25/pentrich-revolution-study-day/>Pentrich >Revolution Study Day > > > >by <https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/author/karriem/>Karen, Archivist > >Pentrich > > >Join us on Monday 4th June for a free study day >dedicated to the Pentrich Revolution, which >celebrated its bicentenary last year. The >event is here at the record office and hosted by >the Pentrich & South Wingfield Revolution Group. > >Here's what you can expect on the day: > * A talk by Michael Parkin giving an > overview and posing some unanswered questions > that could provide suitable research topics > * A genealogy session led by Sylvia Mason > who has compiled the family trees of the > Pentrich Rebels (potentially with an input from > descendants, the group's Chairman John Hardwick) > * An illustrated talk 'Transported for > Treason' dealing with the fate of the 14 men > who were transported to penal colonies and the families they left behind > * Some personal time for participants to look through archive material > >The Study Day runs from 10am to 3pm. For more >information contact Patrick Cook, of the >Pentrich & South Wingfield Revolution Group, at >patrickc99@hotmail.co.uk or call 07931 198707. > >This event is free but places are limited. Click >on the 'Events' tab at the top of the page to book at place. > > ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/author/karriem/>Karen, >Archivist | 25 May 2018 at 9:21 am | Categories: ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/category/news/>News >| URL: <https://wp.me/p1jCye-3q2>https://wp.me/p1jCye-3q2 > ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2018/05/25/pentrich-revolution-study-day/#respond>Comment ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2018/05/25/pentrich-revolution-study-day/#comments>See >all comments > ><https://subscribe.wordpress.com/?key=bba82ab2519c1b6a78d8a94fa8662ac9&email=annete%40aapt.net.au&b=DYfauMH%2B%26jrA%5BX_8pmpv8Y%26pldTWOFpKP.Xl0.%2FDC9%7CPcXS.b>Unsubscribe >to no longer receive posts from Derbyshire >Record Office. Change your email settings at ><https://subscribe.wordpress.com/?key=bba82ab2519c1b6a78d8a94fa8662ac9&email=annete%40aapt.net.au>Manage >Subscriptions. > >Trouble clicking? Copy and paste this URL into your browser: ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2018/05/25/pentrich-revolution-study-day/>https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2018/05/25/pentrich-revolution-study-day/ > ><https://wordpress.com>Thanks for flying with >[] ><https://wordpress.com> WordPress.com

Just to say I have uploaded a whole tranche of Crich area photos from the late Geoff Dawes (local historian) archives to the www.crichparish.co.uk <http://www.crichparish.co.uk/> website Quickest route to looking at them is via the “latest additions” link on the home page. Still lots of his papers to go through Also added quite a lot of extra material on the Crich Parish men from WW1 on the www.crichparish-ww1.co.uk <http://www.crishparish-ww1.co.uk/> website Peter

I've been searching for the burial of Ann HIGTON who died, aged 8, and was buried at Matlock St Giles on 19 June 1856 as Ann HICKTON (I believe from FamilySearch). I've been looking at the register images on Ancestry, and find that the pages that should contain the information, pages 138 & 139, are missing. If anyone can access the register in the Derbyshire Record Office, I'd appreciate a photo. If there is a gravestone at St Giles, a photo of that would also be appreciated.

Well they did say how they opened the closed records for those who died pre 1991, the death marker on the NHS register I could understand a few records being mixed up, ie a Mary SMITH born XX/YY/ZZZZ and they find a married named Mary of the same date of birth with a death marker on the register but that does not answer all of it My guess is its due to some sort of computer algorithm Personally I am not going to complain to loudly ;-) Almost all those I been in correspondence with who found their record was open were thrilled that it was Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 15-May-18 2:12 PM, Kathy Wadlow wrote: > Thank you Nivard, for managing to get a fairly specific reply from FMP re the 'strange case of the "phantom" deaths ' as Agatha Christie might put it. > > I am still mystified as to what the criteria/info is that they are using to come up with so many, something wrong somewhere, and it is surely in breach of the Legal requirements specified in order to open a record? If a person has not died how can there be proof of any kind that they have? It is obviously not an error, given the number of folk just on this List alone who have come across it. My question to FMP has always been "what was the actual data that was used to come up with 'proof' of death which hadn't occurred"? Particularly as in my case it was blocked for the first few months of the Register being opened, then one day suddenly opened. I really would like to know - but it seems they will not say, why? > > Kathy > in Kent

Thank you Nivard, for managing to get a fairly specific reply from FMP re the 'strange case of the "phantom" deaths ' as Agatha Christie might put it. I am still mystified as to what the criteria/info is that they are using to come up with so many, something wrong somewhere, and it is surely in breach of the Legal requirements specified in order to open a record? If a person has not died how can there be proof of any kind that they have? It is obviously not an error, given the number of folk just on this List alone who have come across it. My question to FMP has always been "what was the actual data that was used to come up with 'proof' of death which hadn't occurred"? Particularly as in my case it was blocked for the first few months of the Register being opened, then one day suddenly opened. I really would like to know - but it seems they will not say, why? Kathy in Kent Sent from my iPad On 15 May 2018, at 12:38, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: Clarification on the opening of records on the 1939 NIR by Findmypast I received a reply to my request for clarification from Findmypast Its not as I was lead to believe previously "If a person died before 1991 and had a death code added to their 1939 Register record, their record will be open. For deaths after 1991, we will open up the record on one of two occasions - - we receive a copy of the death certificate through the evidence of death form on the transcription - the person passes 100 years old" Previously I was under the impression they were cross referencing the registered deaths, it always seemed an unwieldy way of doing it so its no surprise to find that was false The interesting part to me was the mention of a death code added to the register whilst still in use to 1991 being the method of opening closed records It does beg the question though, how come so many people have had their records opened when they are still alive & kicking ? Not that I am complaining mind you ;-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > On 13-May-18 4:48 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote: > I was under the impression that the later deaths (post 1991) were being cross referenced and opened but I may have that wrong > So have emailed Findmypast in an effort to clarify > I wondered if that 2016 blog was old news and had been superseded, but will await a reply and post again if I get one > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> >> >> >> I know they do 'cross referencing of data' they hold but how can this be a receipt of proof of a death that hasn't occurred and which apparently is a Legal requirement for them to have? >> >> Kathy >> in Kent ______________________________________________

Clarification on the opening of records on the 1939 NIR by Findmypast I received a reply to my request for clarification from Findmypast Its not as I was lead to believe previously "If a person died before 1991 and had a death code added to their 1939 Register record, their record will be open. For deaths after 1991, we will open up the record on one of two occasions - - we receive a copy of the death certificate through the evidence of death form on the transcription - the person passes 100 years old" Previously I was under the impression they were cross referencing the registered deaths, it always seemed an unwieldy way of doing it so its no surprise to find that was false The interesting part to me was the mention of a death code added to the register whilst still in use to 1991 being the method of opening closed records It does beg the question though, how come so many people have had their records opened when they are still alive & kicking ? Not that I am complaining mind you ;-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 13-May-18 4:48 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote: > > I was under the impression that the later deaths (post 1991) were being > cross referenced and opened but I may have that wrong > > So have emailed Findmypast in an effort to clarify > > I wondered if that 2016 blog was old news and had been superseded, but > will await a reply and post again if I get one > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 13-May-18 1:28 PM, Kathy Wadlow wrote: >> Interesting reading all the different experiences re 1939 Register, my >> experience was that the information was redacted when it first became >> available on FMP and then some months afterwards it was opened. >> I actually took it up with FMP as I was curious to know what had been >> the trigger to do so but other than an apology and it being redacted >> again I could not get an answer to the question of exactly what had >> been found/produced to make the error. On the blog.findmypast.co.uk I >> found the following, dated 16th March 2016:- >> >> The Heading was 'Redaction & the 1939 Register and in answer to a >> question from someone asking if a death certificate had to be >> purchased if the person was born less than 100 yrs ago the answer >> was     "Hi G., if that person was born less than 100 yrs. ago and is >> still alive we can't open the record publicly. If they died prior to >> 1991 their record will be open." >> O.K.,  we all know that, but then:-      "If they died after 1991 we >> can open it up upon receipt of proof of death. This is a Legal >> requirement and beyond our control" October 16th 2016. >> >> I know they do 'cross referencing of data'  they hold but how can this >> be a receipt of proof of a death that hasn't occurred and which >> apparently is a Legal requirement for them to have? >> >> Kathy >> in Kent >

I was under the impression that the later deaths (post 1991) were being cross referenced and opened but I may have that wrong So have emailed Findmypast in an effort to clarify I wondered if that 2016 blog was old news and had been superseded, but will await a reply and post again if I get one Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 13-May-18 1:28 PM, Kathy Wadlow wrote: > Interesting reading all the different experiences re 1939 Register, my experience was that the information was redacted when it first became available on FMP and then some months afterwards it was opened. > I actually took it up with FMP as I was curious to know what had been the trigger to do so but other than an apology and it being redacted again I could not get an answer to the question of exactly what had been found/produced to make the error. On the blog.findmypast.co.uk I found the following, dated 16th March 2016:- > > The Heading was 'Redaction & the 1939 Register and in answer to a question from someone asking if a death certificate had to be purchased if the person was born less than 100 yrs ago the answer was "Hi G., if that person was born less than 100 yrs. ago and is still alive we can't open the record publicly. If they died prior to 1991 their record will be open." > O.K., we all know that, but then:- "If they died after 1991 we can open it up upon receipt of proof of death. This is a Legal requirement and beyond our control" October 16th 2016. > > I know they do 'cross referencing of data' they hold but how can this be a receipt of proof of a death that hasn't occurred and which apparently is a Legal requirement for them to have? > > Kathy > in Kent

Thanks, Cathy. This explains my MIL question. Although she (b1904) would be well past that 100 year mark, she did die after 1991. I wonder when/if that date will ever be moved? Carolyn On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 7:31 AM Kathy Wadlow <katatthefarm@live.co.uk> wrote: > Interesting reading all the different experiences re 1939 Register, my > experience was that the information was redacted when it first became > available on FMP and then some months afterwards it was opened. > I actually took it up with FMP as I was curious to know what had been the > trigger to do so but other than an apology and it being redacted again I > could not get an answer to the question of exactly what had been > found/produced to make the error. On the blog.findmypast.co.uk I found > the following, dated 16th March 2016:- > > The Heading was 'Redaction & the 1939 Register and in answer to a question > from someone asking if a death certificate had to be purchased if the > person was born less than 100 yrs ago the answer was "Hi G., if that > person was born less than 100 yrs. ago and is still alive we can't open the > record publicly. If they died prior to 1991 their record will be open." > O.K., we all know that, but then:- "If they died after 1991 we can > open it up upon receipt of proof of death. This is a Legal requirement and > beyond our control" October 16th 2016. > > I know they do 'cross referencing of data' they hold but how can this be > a receipt of proof of a death that hasn't occurred and which apparently is > a Legal requirement for them to have? > > Kathy > in Kent > > > Sent from my iPad > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Carolyn Hastings Madison AL