My grandfather Benjamin Job FLAVELL and his sister May both born Walsall, 1881 and 1882. Their mother Mary Jane nee ONIONS died 1882. Both children placed in Orphanage, May F. possibly later taken to Canada. Benjamin Job F. Rejoined his newly married father by 1891 in Clay Cross and thence on to Calow. Any info on May Flavell appreciated. Regards Dennis FLAVELL -- I now have a new email address dennisjobflavell@gmail.com please send future emails to this address -- I now have a new email address dennisjobflavell@gmail.com please send future emails to this address

Hi Nivard....I was wondering if you happen to know if the lady that ran Genogold site is still on the Derbysgen list. Having lost the previous address for her and nothing coming up when I enter Genogold I thought I would take a chance and ask if you. Thanks in advance...Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington.one@gmail.com> To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 3:04:37 AM Subject: [DBY]Anyone............. ......still breathing ;-) We currently have 590 subscribers to Derbysgen, although you wouldn't know it would you Surely you haven't all finished your research ? (whatever finished is) Some of those 590 must have some questions to ask ? Brick walls to knock down ? Burning questions regarding a location or situation or occupation ? Remember the only silly question is the one you don't ask :-) -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

You could try looking for the school log books. I found interesting details about my grandmother who taught in Stanton Hill Infants in Notts, and my grandfather who attended it earlier. of course it helps if you know exactly which school … > On 30 May 2018, at 17:02, Chris Hicks via DERBYSGEN <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hello listers, > > I am trying to establish which school in Derbyshire my mother would have attended between about 1913 and 1922. I visited the archives at Matlock a few years ago and looked at the admissions registers that they have but with no success. > > Details. My mother was May IVINS (b 1909) plus elder sister Beatrice Ellen IVINS (b 1907) and younger brother James William IVINS (b 1912) > Parents James William IVINS (1877-1959) m to Ellen (nee BRANT) (1884-1975) They lived on the Alderwasley Estate where the father was a gamekeeper from 1912 until sometime in the 1920s. > > Mum always claimed that they ‘walked four miles to school each day.’ I would like to see how likely this was. She also referred to the headteacher as a man. I am aware that there was in fact a small school on the estate but this appears to have only had women teachers. > > From the maps the obvious places would be Wirksworth, Whatstandwell, Crich or Ambergate. > > Can any lister with knowledge of the area offer any suggestions please > > Chris Hicks > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi everyone, I'm having a right brick wall moment trying to sort out the connection from my family MEE BISHOP, to the Diseworth, Castle Donington MEE and LE MEY lines. There's a shed load of research about MEE but loads of misinformation too. My ancestor William Mee married Mary Elizabeth Bishop in Derby. Their marriage certificate shows him as a widower but i have no information of a previous wife. There could and probably would be more children. Mee is quite a common name in this area probably due to the “Normandy” Le Mey connection and “William” is no help at all! Every male child was either a William or a John etc etc. Any hints as to how i may track down the first Mrs William Mee will be greatly appreciated.

Hello listers, I am trying to establish which school in Derbyshire my mother would have attended between about 1913 and 1922. I visited the archives at Matlock a few years ago and looked at the admissions registers that they have but with no success. Details. My mother was May IVINS (b 1909) plus elder sister Beatrice Ellen IVINS (b 1907) and younger brother James William IVINS (b 1912) Parents James William IVINS (1877-1959) m to Ellen (nee BRANT) (1884-1975) They lived on the Alderwasley Estate where the father was a gamekeeper from 1912 until sometime in the 1920s. Mum always claimed that they ‘walked four miles to school each day.’ I would like to see how likely this was. She also referred to the headteacher as a man. I am aware that there was in fact a small school on the estate but this appears to have only had women teachers. From the maps the obvious places would be Wirksworth, Whatstandwell, Crich or Ambergate. Can any lister with knowledge of the area offer any suggestions please Chris Hicks

And thank you again Sent from my iPhone > On 30 May 2018, at 16:44, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi again > > Those available online would be under nonconformist records which are on both Ancestry & Findmypast > > Although there are some WEBSTER events in Derbyshire there do not appear to be any for your period > > Perhaps the county records office might have more on what circuit Hognaston belonged to and where records if deposited are > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> On 30/05/2018 16:23, Joan wrote: >> I think they were Methodists as I've had a Google and Websters are mentioned as a prominent Methodist family in the Hognaston chapel. So next question is where is it best to go for Methodist records online? >> Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi again Those available online would be under nonconformist records which are on both Ancestry & Findmypast Although there are some WEBSTER events in Derbyshire there do not appear to be any for your period Perhaps the county records office might have more on what circuit Hognaston belonged to and where records if deposited are Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/05/2018 16:23, Joan wrote: > I think they were Methodists as I've had a Google and Websters are mentioned as a prominent Methodist family in the Hognaston chapel. So next question is where is it best to go for Methodist records online? > Thanks

I think they were Methodists as I've had a Google and Websters are mentioned as a prominent Methodist family in the Hognaston chapel. So next question is where is it best to go for Methodist records online? Thanks On 30/05/2018 15:25:04, Joan <joan.m.wheeldon@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks Nirvard, first time I've come across it - the brother Joseph also has the same in 1881. I have a transcript of Hognaston memorial inscriptions and God is certainly mentioned on the stone so it looks like another religion. joan On 30/05/2018 15:18:10, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: There was a similar certified burial for George WEBSTER 4 days old in 1896 Hognaston By Joseph WEBSTER ?? retired tradesman Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/05/2018 15:10, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Joan > > I had to smile at two of the transcripts on Ancestry of John *Lovegrone* > WEBSTER ;-) > > The last column of the burial register reads :- > > Certified under the act by Joseph WEBSTER Provisions Dealer &c > > I believe this refers to the 1880 burials act > > As I understand it those who practised another religion, or no religion > could be buried in the churchyard and certified by the person named who > had to provide a burial certificate from the death registration, ie > without a C of E burial service > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 30/05/2018 14:50, Joan wrote: >> I've been looking at the burial image of the above in Hognaston (if >> anyone has access it's page 33/50). Can anyone help me decipher what >> is written in the 'who performed the ceremony' column please - his >> father was Joseph WEBSTER, a baker. >> >> Thanks >> >> Joan > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

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Well done you Yes its largely based on others having to do their own dna Without that connection it can only give a vague idea of an area or more you may have come from Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/05/2018 15:52, Caren Wilcox wrote: > I am prompted by your nudge, Nivard, to communicate some more about my Robinson search. I did a DNA test with Ancestry and the results were quite amazing. I got over 490 possible connections! But the most satisfying so far was a woman in Lancashire who has Robinson family in her ancestry and she gave me a possible venue to look in Lancashire. I have suspected that my Zachariah Robinson probably moved to Eyam since I have never found any baptism or birth record in Derbyshire for him. So now I at least have a plausible hint of somewhere to look strengthened by a moderate DNA hint. By the way the number of connections is probably due to the fact that my biological family were all converts to the Mormon church and so many of them have had tests done. But many others are like me, just 4th to 6th cousins with a DNA connection but no religious connection – like the woman in Lancashire. I guess DNA testing can help if enough relatives are also tested.

Good afternoon I have transcribed a newspaper item for Dorothy Travis Walker who was in WAAF and was killed in an accident in 1945. She has a military headstone in St Mary’s churchyard, Crich and an entry on my www.crichparish.co.uk <http://www.crichparish.co.uk/> site I have to admit being amused by the choice of anthem by the church choir and wonder if it was deliberate Ripley and Heanor News: 11 November 1949 CRICH On Sunday evening Rev H E Jones dedicated set of bookshelves in memory of Dorothy Travis Walker, and two banner cases, which were given by Crich Mothers Union at St Mary’s Church. The choir sang an anthem entitled “What are these” Mr W B Glossop was organist. Peter

Hi Anne Unfortunately I know very little about the dna side of things, it just doesn't interest me But I am sure there will be someone who can help you on the list who is into such things Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/05/2018 15:51, ANNE wrote: > Still breathing Nivard!   I was just in the UK so haven't been on line. > However, I got my Ancestry DNA results today - can you tell me where I > find the GED match number? > > Interesting that my closest match is a Beresford, and my ethnicity is > mostly Western European which would fit in with the Beresford line. > > Anne

I am prompted by your nudge, Nivard, to communicate some more about my Robinson search. I did a DNA test with Ancestry and the results were quite amazing. I got over 490 possible connections! But the most satisfying so far was a woman in Lancashire who has Robinson family in her ancestry and she gave me a possible venue to look in Lancashire. I have suspected that my Zachariah Robinson probably moved to Eyam since I have never found any baptism or birth record in Derbyshire for him. So now I at least have a plausible hint of somewhere to look strengthened by a moderate DNA hint. By the way the number of connections is probably due to the fact that my biological family were all converts to the Mormon church and so many of them have had tests done. But many others are like me, just 4th to 6th cousins with a DNA connection but no religious connection – like the woman in Lancashire. I guess DNA testing can help if enough relatives are also tested. Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Still breathing Nivard! I was just in the UK so haven't been on line. However, I got my Ancestry DNA results today - can you tell me where I find the GED match number? Interesting that my closest match is a Beresford, and my ethnicity is mostly Western European which would fit in with the Beresford line. Anne -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 6:04 AM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Anyone............. ......still breathing ;-) We currently have 590 subscribers to Derbysgen, although you wouldn't know it would you Surely you haven't all finished your research ? (whatever finished is) Some of those 590 must have some questions to ask ? Brick walls to knock down ? Burning questions regarding a location or situation or occupation ? Remember the only silly question is the one you don't ask :-) -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Ah, now I have googled her and seen a photo I recognise Olivia Colman, just didn't know her name Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/05/2018 15:43, Margaret Siudek wrote: > Olivia Colman is a great actress, and I’ve seen her in the theatre & on TV, but apart from her....

Olivia Colman is a great actress, and I’ve seen her in the theatre & on TV, but apart from her.... Sent from my iPad > On 30 May 2018, at 15:01, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I was reminded today that the new WDYTYA is about to start > > The new series of Who Do You Think You Are starts Wednesday 6th June at 9pm on BBC1 > (shortly after on iplayer) > > The line up for series 15 is :- > > Michelle Keegan > Olivia Colman > Boy George > Shirley Ballas > Lee Mack > Marvin Humes > Judge Rinder > Jonnie Peacock > > No idea who most of those are, Boy George, Lee Mack and Jonnie Peacock I have heard of but the rest are a mystery to me > > Still, sometimes the ones you don't recognise can be the more interesting but time will tell on that > > I am sure the full series line up is somewhere on the BBC site, darned if I could find it though, I had to sink to the Sun via google to find it > > > -- > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks Nirvard, first time I've come across it - the brother Joseph also has the same in 1881. I have a transcript of Hognaston memorial inscriptions and God is certainly mentioned on the stone so it looks like another religion. joan On 30/05/2018 15:18:10, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: There was a similar certified burial for George WEBSTER 4 days old in 1896 Hognaston By Joseph WEBSTER ?? retired tradesman Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/05/2018 15:10, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Joan > > I had to smile at two of the transcripts on Ancestry of John *Lovegrone* > WEBSTER ;-) > > The last column of the burial register reads :- > > Certified under the act by Joseph WEBSTER Provisions Dealer &c > > I believe this refers to the 1880 burials act > > As I understand it those who practised another religion, or no religion > could be buried in the churchyard and certified by the person named who > had to provide a burial certificate from the death registration, ie > without a C of E burial service > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 30/05/2018 14:50, Joan wrote: >> I've been looking at the burial image of the above in Hognaston (if >> anyone has access it's page 33/50). Can anyone help me decipher what >> is written in the 'who performed the ceremony' column please - his >> father was Joseph WEBSTER, a baker. >> >> Thanks >> >> Joan > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Steve For what its worth, I suspect when others read that you have traced back to 1151 they assume you have checked all those resources open to us And asking if others are connected it very often a fruitless exercise as the chances of a connection in 590 subscribers, some of whom may not be reading the posts is small Is that as far back as you have the BOWEN line? Is that where you are stuck? If not where are you stuck Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/05/2018 12:02, Steve Bowen wrote: > Well Nivard I will try again, although I never had results before. > > I am researching my BOWEN side and all in Derby. My father was Kenneth > George Bowen (1916-1978) and my mother was Jean Mary Hilton (1921-1999), > grandparents were George Thomas Bowen(1888-1955), Ethel May(1891-1959), > Frank Hilton(1884-1925), Hilda Annie Allsop(1891-1965) > > Does anyone have any links to any of these people ? >

There was a similar certified burial for George WEBSTER 4 days old in 1896 Hognaston By Joseph WEBSTER ?? retired tradesman Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/05/2018 15:10, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Joan > > I had to smile at two of the transcripts on Ancestry of John *Lovegrone* > WEBSTER ;-) > > The last column of the burial register reads :- > > Certified under the act by Joseph WEBSTER Provisions Dealer &c > > I believe this refers to the 1880 burials act > > As I understand it those who practised another religion, or no religion > could be buried in the churchyard and certified by the person named who > had to provide a burial certificate from the death registration, ie > without a C of E burial service > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 30/05/2018 14:50, Joan wrote: >> I've been looking at the burial image of the above in Hognaston (if >> anyone has access it's page 33/50). Can anyone help me decipher what >> is written in the 'who performed the ceremony' column please - his >> father was Joseph WEBSTER, a baker. >> >> Thanks >> >> Joan >

Hi Joan I had to smile at two of the transcripts on Ancestry of John *Lovegrone* WEBSTER ;-) The last column of the burial register reads :- Certified under the act by Joseph WEBSTER Provisions Dealer &c I believe this refers to the 1880 burials act As I understand it those who practised another religion, or no religion could be buried in the churchyard and certified by the person named who had to provide a burial certificate from the death registration, ie without a C of E burial service Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/05/2018 14:50, Joan wrote: > I've been looking at the burial image of the above in Hognaston (if anyone has access it's page 33/50). Can anyone help me decipher what is written in the 'who performed the ceremony' column please - his father was Joseph WEBSTER, a baker. > > Thanks > > Joan