Cracking job. Well done. Andy

Hi Celia, Many thanks for all your information. I believe the Timothy Cartwright who married SARAH MORRIL on 15 Aug 1799 may be the brother to my SAMUEL - but don't have a baptism for him either !!! Prunella.

Hilary, Not sure about taking this offline, I find it interesting, but that will be Nivard's call. I will get this in before he makes a ruling (~:P If there is a list that discusses this/these topics I would like to know about it/them. I do find some of this new technical stuff difficult, especially when acronyms are used. Some typos and also, these days, autocorrect sometimes can muddy the water. So ... U3a? bods? cMs? trial? a means to further, in depth, test possible between two predicted matches? lodge your gedcom? Load? thanks \s\Rick -----Original Message----- From: Hilary Thomas [mailto:organic22@bigpond.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 8:52 PM To: 'Derbyshire genealogy' Subject: [DBY]DNA & GEDMATCH Hi Nirvard and All, I have answered this to Anne, so am offering it in case others need it. I've been running my class at U3a through DNA. It is quite amazing what happens with it, we have had some brilliant finds that have been useful for others as well. Little bods that no-one knew about! With some of our names we have lots of matches, with others we have few. There is usually a long list of names, but it is the ones with the highest cMs that you want- they are the best matches. It is Free to put it on Gedmatch - just Google it. Usually what also comes up on the Google page also are instructions on how to transfer DNA results up on Gedmatch. You will need to register, but that is OK, you can use an alias if you wish. Also consider adding it - perhaps when a bit more familiar with what you have got - to FamilyTreeDNA - also free to add to, and My Heritage. You will flush out a few more matches. Do remember to trial each 'find' against each other to make sure that you have a match before bothering people. Also take the time to look at the tools that Gedmatch offer - the 2 kits that both match others for example. Select a few and run them against each other on matrix - for another example. That starts to enable you to sort them into the different name groups. And don't forget to lodge your Gedcom (family history computer program) even if you have no DNA, but linked if you do. That helps searchers to ascertain where in the family you fit for them, and them for you. Again you can use Alias' Autosomal DNA is very good for about 4 generations, it can be a bit harder to find earlier generations - more people in the line of names, more unknown marriages and so names not recognised, but it is the luck of the draw. we are having trouble finding our "Welsh" Thomas' as we have them in London for about 4-5 generations. Happy to answer any queries but probably best off-line as a bit off topic. regards Hilary Thomas -----Original Message----- From: ANNE [mailto:granne@cogeco.ca] Sent: Thursday, 31 May 2018 12:52 AM To: Derbyshire genealogy Subject: [DBY]Re: Anyone............. Still breathing Nivard! I was just in the UK so haven't been on line. However, I got my Ancestry DNA results today - can you tell me where I find the GED match number? Interesting that my closest match is a Beresford, and my ethnicity is mostly Western European which would fit in with the Beresford line. Anne _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Prunella, I hope the info below might be helpful to you. I have the image of the original Marriage Bond if you'd like it - email me off-list. Regards, Celia Renshaw in Sheffield UK Blog: www.morgansite.wordpress.com *Marriage Bond - Timothy CARTWRIGHT – Joyce MORRILL* 8 Jun 1761 on which day appeared personally Timothy CARTWRIGHT of Heage in the parish of Duffield, co. Derby, farmer, and (swore) that he is of the age of 21 years & upwards and a bachelor and intends to marry Joyce MORRILL of the same placed aged 21 years spinster (requesting a licence) to solemnise the marriage in the parish church of Duffield. (He further swore) that he has had his usual abode for the space of 4 weeks last past. Signed: Tim CARTWRIGHT Wit: James HARTLIEY Marriage Bond attached dated 8 Jun 1761 Bondsmen: Timothy CARTWRIGHT farmer of Heage itp Duffield, Derbys aged 21+ bachelor & Thomas BLAND butcher of the same place. Both signed and sealed. *Notes* Mge 8 Jun 1761 by lic Duffield, Derbys – Timothy CARTWRIGHT & Joyce MORRELL [Phillimores] 7 Apr 1769 Duffield – Joseph CARTWRIGHT & Elizabeth BLAND (see licence witness above) Mge 1701 Hickling, Notts – Timothy CARTWRIGHT & Elizabeth FISHER [M0048642]. Marriage bond (Nottingham Archdeaconry): 20 Sep 1701 Timothy CARTWRIGHT, of Derby, mercer, bac., 25, & Elizabeth FISHER, of Hickling, 19, spr; at Holme. Phillimores gives marriage date of 7 Oct 1701. Baps at Friar Gate Presbyterian Chapel, Derby (original records on film):- 22 Jul 1704 – Elizabeth CARTWRIGHT dau of Mr Tim. CARTWRIGHT, mercer of Derby at his own house 23 Oct 1705 – Anna-Maria CARTWRIGHT dau of Mr. Tim. CARTWRIGHT, mercer of Derby at his own house 7 Dec 1708 – William CARTWRIGHT son of Mr Timo. CARTWRIGHT Bap 24 Oct 1705 Derby All Saints – Annamaria CARTWRIGHT dau of Timothy [C035872] Noted at Derby All Saints: Born 11 Aug 1707 Borzey CARTWRIGHT son of Timothy [C035872] Bap abt Jul 1717 Derby All Saints [ng] CARTWRIGHT son of Tim. CARTWRIGHT [C035872] Mge 20 Feb 1733/4 Duffield – Timothy CARTWRIGHT & Easter STATHAM (Phillimores) Mge 19 Feb 1784 Duffield – Timothy CARTWRIGHT & Anne HILL (Phillimores) Mge 15 Aug 1799 by lic – Timothy CARTWRIGHT bach farmer of Heage & Sarah MORRIL [sig Morrell] spin otp (Phillimores) On 31 May 2018 at 13:56, pabradshaw--- via DERBYSGEN <derbysgen@rootsweb.com > wrote: > I am researching SAMUEL CARTWRIGHT who married HANNAH BRAILSFORD 18 Sept > 1797 in Ault Hucknall. > SAMUEL was buried on 25 February 1836 at Ault Hucknall – age 65, of > Astwith. > > I have a possible baptism that I found a good while ago - IGI Samuel > Cartwright s/o Timothy Cartwright 17 Aug 1771 & born 4 Aug 1771 Ripley, > Ripley-Pentrich-NC. > > If this baptism is correct, I cannot find a baptism for his father TIMOTHY. > There is a burial of a TIMOTHY CARTWRIGHT 16th Jan 1831 at Duffield aged > 92 of Heage. > > Would appreciate any help. > > Prunella. > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ > derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ > derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

I am researching SAMUEL CARTWRIGHT who married HANNAH BRAILSFORD 18 Sept 1797 in Ault Hucknall. SAMUEL was buried on 25 February 1836 at Ault Hucknall – age 65, of Astwith. I have a possible baptism that I found a good while ago - IGI Samuel Cartwright s/o Timothy Cartwright 17 Aug 1771 & born 4 Aug 1771 Ripley, Ripley-Pentrich-NC. If this baptism is correct, I cannot find a baptism for his father TIMOTHY. There is a burial of a TIMOTHY CARTWRIGHT 16th Jan 1831 at Duffield aged 92 of Heage. Would appreciate any help. Prunella.

Good afternoon I have just uploaded over 100 extra photos onto the www.crichparish.co.uk <http://www.crichparish.co.uk/> from the Brian and Herbert Key collection. There are still many more to come over the next few weeks as Herbert and Brian Key were keen photographers The late Herbert Key was a gifted local artist who painted many iconic and some unusual views of Crich. I was delighted to find a painting of the Ritz Cinema in Crich as I have been trying to find a photo of this but have failed. The painting will do me! I have photographed Herbert’s paintings which his brother Brian owned and hope to add more of these to the site in the next few weeks. I have managed to add a some already but many more to come Work still progresses on the histories of those from Crich Parish who served in the Great War. We are trying desperately to get as many photos and biographies as we can before the new Roll of Honour goes to print in time for the Remembrance Service in November. There will be an accompanying book to go with this. After November I will only be able to keep the website www.crichparish-ww1.co.uk <http://www.crichparish-ww1.co.uk/> up to date as unable to continue the hard-print work. I have updated and added quite a lot of extra information to the site. So, if you have anybody of interest on the Roll it would be worth looking to see if there has been an update. Peter

No research is never ever finished, it is simply impossible to complete fully But its something I see stated from time to time, it always makes me smile Have you looked at the names in the domesday book? No BRENTNALL but there are BRETEL and perhaps some other possibles But the only way of knowing a connection is to trace your lot backwards, trying to join the dots is usually a bit of a let down Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 31/05/2018 00:48, Jeanette Brentnall wrote: > Is research ever finished? There is always some intriguing thread to follow, leading to who knows where?! > My unanswered question is where the earliest written record of the name BRENTNALL might to be found? In church records, of course, but where else? Any sightings and suggestions are sought. I await with interest, thank you. > > Jeanette Brentnall, Queensland, Australia.

Hi Anne, William Mee was born in Derby in 1825 and 1830 according to Census and Marriage info. He died in January 1915 and was buried at Nottingham Road Cemetery. He married Mary Elizabeth Bishop in May 1879 where his status was widower. It’s his first marriage I am interested in finding more about.

Hi John Yes this is the correct Charles Haswell Will try Nivards suggestion re checking service numbers thanks regards Jen NSW > On 30 May 2018, at 10:11 pm, John Frearson via DERBYSGEN <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Re Jennifer's query ... '... if anyone could advise where I could locate information for my Grandfather CHARLES HASWELL who was in the RAMC in WW1. He was discharged as Acting Corporal however this was then down graded to Private. I would love to find where he was in WW1. As normal he never spoke about the war. Any other suggestions may help Jen (NSW)' > > Was this A/Cpl 64919 ? He won the Victory and British War Medals, and was 'Reverted to private on change of theatre of war 22.1.1919'. > > Apart from his medal card and the medal roll there is nothing obvious. > > Unfortunately there is no indication of which unit or hospital he might have been attached to. > > As he survived, there is no additional unit info that might have been on the CWGC site. > > Probably nothing here that you don't already know. > > Good hunting > > John Frearson > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks Nivard Will check out the service numbers I think this will be my only option as most other records seen to be checked IMHO also the down grading was quite harsh Jen (NSW) > On 30 May 2018, at 10:34 pm, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Jennifer > > I can only repeat what John has also found, medal card & medal roll > > As you are no doubt aware roughly two thirds of service records were lost in WW2, his appear to have been lost as most of my lots were > > The downgrading comment is a little harsh IMHO > > It means he was required as an acting corporal where he was serving, then on change of theatre of war there was not a need for so many NCOs and he reverted to private > > Forgive me if its been suggested already, but one ploy that can pay dividends is to search out those in the same regiment with a service number close to yours, it does not mean they served together but there may be clues from where they served and perhaps one can be found with a surviving service record > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 30/05/2018 12:25, Jennifer wrote: >> Hi Nivard >> Still here, if anyone could advise where I could locate >> information for my Grandfather CHARLES HASWELL >> who was in the RAMC in WW1. I have been in contact with >> the Buxton advertiser and nothing is located there. He was >> discharged as Acting Corporal however this was then down graded to Private >> I would love to find where he was in WW1. As normal he never spoke about >> the war >> Any other suggestions may help >> Jen (NSW) > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Nirvard and All, I have answered this to Anne, so am offering it in case others need it. I've been running my class at U3a through DNA. It is quite amazing what happens with it, we have had some brilliant finds that have been useful for others as well. Little bods that no-one knew about! With some of our names we have lots of matches, with others we have few. There is usually a long list of names, but it is the ones with the highest cMs that you want- they are the best matches. It is Free to put it on Gedmatch - just Google it. Usually what also comes up on the Google page also are instructions on how to transfer DNA results up on Gedmatch. You will need to register, but that is OK, you can use an alias if you wish. Also consider adding it - perhaps when a bit more familiar with what you have got - to FamilyTreeDNA - also free to add to, and My Heritage. You will flush out a few more matches. Do remember to trial each 'find' against each other to make sure that you have a match before bothering people. Also take the time to look at the tools that Gedmatch offer - the 2 kits that both match others for example. Select a few and run them against each other on matrix - for another example. That starts to enable you to sort them into the different name groups. And don't forget to lodge your Gedcom (family history computer program) even if you have no DNA, but linked if you do. That helps searchers to ascertain where in the family you fit for them, and them for you. Again you can use Alias' Autosomal DNA is very good for about 4 generations, it can be a bit harder to find earlier generations - more people in the line of names, more unknown marriages and so names not recognised, but it is the luck of the draw. we are having trouble finding our "Welsh" Thomas' as we have them in London for about 4-5 generations. Happy to answer any queries but probably best off-line as a bit off topic. regards Hilary Thomas -----Original Message----- From: ANNE [mailto:granne@cogeco.ca] Sent: Thursday, 31 May 2018 12:52 AM To: Derbyshire genealogy Subject: [DBY]Re: Anyone............. Still breathing Nivard! I was just in the UK so haven't been on line. However, I got my Ancestry DNA results today - can you tell me where I find the GED match number? Interesting that my closest match is a Beresford, and my ethnicity is mostly Western European which would fit in with the Beresford line. Anne

Thanks Nivard...I had the same results...I thought if I asked on Derbysgen the lady may still be a member....however, I can always retype all the information in for the Belper site...thanks for your help. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington.one@gmail.com> To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 2:41:56 PM Subject: [DBY]Re: Anyone............. Hi again I guess it depends on what you are looking for really but the wayback machine has several and more copies of the Genogold web page archived, however all I have checked come back with dead leads to databases or any other links One being https://web.archive.org/web/20070531142754/http://www.genogold.com What I would suggest is to search all the lists archives for Genogold and check a few of those hits out and see if a web site owner is mentioned in any of them The fact it went down in 2017 and hasn't come back up by now does not bode well IMHO However are you trying to use a sledgehammer to crack a nut ;-) The parish registers for Denby are on Ancestry They are also on familysearch although you need to visit an LDS FHS to view the images Ancestry is available at most if not all libraries in England & Wales and at all LDS FHS who also have Findmypast Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/05/2018 21:43, bar_ron@telus.net wrote: > Hi Nivard...the problem is I don't know her know, only that she had the Genogold genealogy site. Years ago I entered hundreds of pages of the Denby Register onto Derbysgen & the lady asked if I would allow her to upload it to her site. I'm also on the Belper site and there were a few questions regarding people that had originated in Denby...I happened to mention Genogold, but the moderator couldn't find the site, so my last chance was to ask you. Thank you anyway...Barbara _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Is research ever finished? There is always some intriguing thread to follow, leading to who knows where?! My unanswered question is where the earliest written record of the name BRENTNALL might to be found? In church records, of course, but where else? Any sightings and suggestions are sought. I await with interest, thank you. Jeanette Brentnall, Queensland, Australia. On 30 May 2018, at 8:04 pm, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: ......still breathing ;-) We currently have 590 subscribers to Derbysgen, although you wouldn't know it would you Surely you haven't all finished your research ? (whatever finished is) Some of those 590 must have some questions to ask ? Brick walls to knock down ? Burning questions regarding a location or situation or occupation ? Remember the only silly question is the one you don't ask :-) -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community Jeanette Brentnall 4 Oak Beach Rd., Oak Beach, Queensland 4877 phone: 0740 985216

I We have a Phylis MEE of Eastwood marrying into the (James) VICKERS (Hucknall Torkard family regd December 1850 There is also the spelling of Meah and Meaghe regards Di McKee Auckland NZ On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 4:18 AM, <helbrtn@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everyone, I'm having a right brick wall moment trying to sort out the > connection from my family MEE BISHOP, to the Diseworth, Castle Donington > MEE and LE MEY lines. > > There's a shed load of research about MEE but loads of misinformation too. > My ancestor William Mee married Mary Elizabeth Bishop in Derby. Their > marriage certificate shows him as a widower but i have no information of a > previous wife. There could and probably would be more children. Mee is > quite a common name in this area probably due to the “Normandy” Le Mey > connection and “William” is no help at all! Every male child was either a > William or a John etc etc. > > Any hints as to how i may track down the first Mrs William Mee will be > greatly appreciated. > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ > derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ > derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi, Could you please provide us with some dates as this will help narrow down the searches, many thanks, Annette WATSON Lismore 2480 Australia At 02:18 AM 31/05/2018, you wrote: >Hi everyone, I'm having a right brick wall >moment trying to sort out the connection from my >family MEE BISHOP, to the Diseworth, Castle Donington MEE and LE MEY lines. > >There's a shed load of research about MEE but >loads of misinformation too. My ancestor William >Mee married Mary Elizabeth Bishop in Derby. >Their marriage certificate shows him as a >widower but i have no information of a previous >wife. There could and probably would be more >children. Mee is quite a common name in this >area probably due to the “Normandy” Le Mey >connection and “William” is no help at all! >Every male child was either a William or a John etc etc. > >Any hints as to how i may track down the first >Mrs William Mee will be greatly appreciated. >______________________________________________

Hi again I guess it depends on what you are looking for really but the wayback machine has several and more copies of the Genogold web page archived, however all I have checked come back with dead leads to databases or any other links One being https://web.archive.org/web/20070531142754/http://www.genogold.com What I would suggest is to search all the lists archives for Genogold and check a few of those hits out and see if a web site owner is mentioned in any of them The fact it went down in 2017 and hasn't come back up by now does not bode well IMHO However are you trying to use a sledgehammer to crack a nut ;-) The parish registers for Denby are on Ancestry They are also on familysearch although you need to visit an LDS FHS to view the images Ancestry is available at most if not all libraries in England & Wales and at all LDS FHS who also have Findmypast Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/05/2018 21:43, bar_ron@telus.net wrote: > Hi Nivard...the problem is I don't know her know, only that she had the Genogold genealogy site. Years ago I entered hundreds of pages of the Denby Register onto Derbysgen & the lady asked if I would allow her to upload it to her site. I'm also on the Belper site and there were a few questions regarding people that had originated in Denby...I happened to mention Genogold, but the moderator couldn't find the site, so my last chance was to ask you. Thank you anyway...Barbara

Hi Nivard...the problem is I don't know her know, only that she had the Genogold genealogy site. Years ago I entered hundreds of pages of the Denby Register onto Derbysgen & the lady asked if I would allow her to upload it to her site. I'm also on the Belper site and there were a few questions regarding people that had originated in Denby...I happened to mention Genogold, but the moderator couldn't find the site, so my last chance was to ask you. Thank you anyway...Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington.one@gmail.com> To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 10:35:26 AM Subject: [DBY]Re: Anyone............. If you send me her name and email address off list I will see if there are any similar addresses subscribed Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Thank you Edna!!! -----Original Message----- From: liverpud Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 11:19 AM To: Derbyshire genealogy Subject: [DBY]GedMatch https://www.yourdnaguide.com/upload-to-gedmatch/ Edna - Ottawa _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

If you send me her name and email address off list I will see if there are any similar addresses subscribed Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/05/2018 17:25, bar_ron@telus.net wrote: > Hi Nivard....I was wondering if you happen to know if the lady that ran Genogold site is still on the Derbysgen list. Having lost the previous address for her and nothing coming up when I enter Genogold I thought I would take a chance and ask if you. > > Thanks in advance...Barbara >

Alderwasley is just above Wirksworth so I would assume that she went to school there. There was a Wirksworth National School, a primary school, a grammer school and also a school in Alderwasley. Log books are held at the Matlock record office. Crich is across the moor so I think it would be too far a hike from Alderwasley. Anne -----Original Message----- From: Chris Hicks via DERBYSGEN Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 12:02 PM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Cc: Chris Hicks Subject: [DBY]IVINS Hello listers, I am trying to establish which school in Derbyshire my mother would have attended between about 1913 and 1922. I visited the archives at Matlock a few years ago and looked at the admissions registers that they have but with no success. Details. My mother was May IVINS (b 1909) plus elder sister Beatrice Ellen IVINS (b 1907) and younger brother James William IVINS (b 1912) Parents James William IVINS (1877-1959) m to Ellen (nee BRANT) (1884-1975) They lived on the Alderwasley Estate where the father was a gamekeeper from 1912 until sometime in the 1920s. Mum always claimed that they ‘walked four miles to school each day.’ I would like to see how likely this was. She also referred to the headteacher as a man. I am aware that there was in fact a small school on the estate but this appears to have only had women teachers. From the maps the obvious places would be Wirksworth, Whatstandwell, Crich or Ambergate. Can any lister with knowledge of the area offer any suggestions please Chris Hicks _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community