Lists which LDS (Mormon) film # to order for surnames: http://www.rootsweb.com/~quakers/cope.htm Make sure you check for all spellings of your surname(s).

First to KY: HB 100 Set for vote in the Senate Monday morning. The Kentucky Legislature to drastically limit access to vital records including BIRTHS, DEATHS, MARRIAGES, and DIVORCE. (MILITARY RECORDS also being limited by another Bill.) You can read the entire bill at: http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/record/04rs/HB100/SCS1.doc Death certificates will still be public record after 50 years but more recent death certificates will only be available to: 1. the decedent's widow or widower 2. child eighteen (18) years of age or older 3. parent 4. grandparent 5. sibling eighteen (18) years of age or older 6. funeral director handling the decedent's funeral arrangements 7. personal representative of the decedent's estate 8. a named beneficiary of an insurance policy of the decedent 9. a person with a claim against the decedent's estate THIS TUESDAY, March 23, this bill will be voted on in the full Senate. If it passes, it will go to Gov. Fletcher for his signature. Call and email all senators and let them know that you want an NO vote on HB 100. Time is critical! Do it by Monday morning, at the latest. Senator contact info: http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/whoswho/whoswho.htm Telephone: 502-564-8100 FAX : 502-564-6543 Toll Free Numbers - 2004 Session (only for Kentucky) Bill Status Line: 1-866-301-9004 Legislative Message Line: 1-800-372-7181 This is the same bill that failed in committee during the last Legislative session. The genealogists of the state worked together to stop its passage. Please pass this information along to others and get busy. DO NOT assume others will do it for you. ******************* Now to the BAD news in WV: If you live in WV, it is too late to call your elected State official. HB 4330 passed 13 March 2004. The Bill is on his desk for signature Monday morning. Email Governor WISE of West Virginia immediately! Governor@WVGOV.org Please post this on every List to which you subscribe or administrate today. Tell everyone you know. Send it to your entire genealogy address book. Should this become law, the damage to records access in West Virginia appears irreparable. Read it: http://129.71.164.29/Bill_Text_HTML/2004_SESSIONS/RS/House/H_BILLS/hb4330%20eng.htm §16-5-25. Reproduction and preservation of records. To preserve vital records and other original documents, the state registrar is authorized to prepare typewritten, photographic, electronic, or other reproductions of certificates or reports and files in the section of vital statistics. When verified and approved by the state registrar, the reproductions shall be accepted as the original records, and the documents from which permanent reproductions have been made may be disposed of as provided by legislative rule or other provisions of state law. [This means Wills, etc. We genealogists defeated SB 818 in VA on this very premise, Feb 2003.] §16-5-26. Disclosure of information from vital records or vital reports. [Please keep reading. Pay special attention to Section D] (a) The department shall, by legislative rule, provide for the disclosure of confidential information contained in vital records and reports for statistical research purposes. The rule must require the submission of written requests for information and the execution of research agreements between the researcher and the state registrar or local custodian of vital records and reports, which prohibit the release by the researcher of any information that may identify any person except as provided in the agreement. (b) To protect the integrity and to ensure the proper use of vital records or reports, and to ensure the efficient and proper operation of the vital statistics system, it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose, confidential information contained in vital records or reports, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any vital record or report unless authorized by this article, by legislative rule or by order of a court of competent jurisdiction: Provided, That nothing in this article prohibits the release of information or data that would not identify any person named in a vital record or report. (c) Appeals from decisions of the custodians of permanent local records refusing to disclose confidential information, or to permit inspection of or copying of confidential information under the authority of this section and legislative rules shall be made to the state registrar, whose decisions shall be binding upon the local custodians of permanent local records. (d) When ONE HUNDRED years have elapsed after the date of birth, or FIFTY years have elapsed after the date of death, fetal death, marriage, or divorce or annulment, the records of these events in the custody of the state registrar and local custodians shall become available to the public without restriction, except for the release of social security numbers, in accordance with legislative rule. And to add further insult to injury: §16-5-3. Department of health and human resources to propose legislative rules. [The Dept of H&HR? Not the state archivists?] (11) Disposal of original records from which permanent reproductions have been made; [Bad idea no matter how you look at it.] (12) Disclosure of confidential information for administrative, statistical or research purposes; [This means the government can have it, but YOU cannot.] (13) Release of records after one hundred years of birth, or fifty years of death, fetal death, marriage, divorce or annulment; [They are SO set on this HUNDRED year thing, it is in here twice.] (14) Authorization for preparing, issuing or obtaining copies of vital records; [Again, all power is vest in the Dept of H &HR.] This is disastrous to those of us in genealogy with roots in such an historically important state as West Virginia. It is far past the 11th hour. Only a concerted and overwhelming public outcry might dissuade Gov. Wise from signing this ill advised Bill into permanent law. Track the Bill and locate legislators: http://www.legis.state.wv.us/legishp.html

Dear list I am new to this list. so if you could please help me. I am looking for a Mary Footen.All I have on her is her is when she died April 1981 In a town called Symma ,it could be a Cemetery. Any help would be nice John Gerdeman lost in History

At 08:46 PM 3/20/04 +0100, John Gerdeman wrote: >I am new to this list. so if you could please help me. >I am looking for a Mary Footen.All I have on her is her is when she died April 1981 > In a town called Symma ,it could be a Cemetery. >Any help would be nice Hi John -- Just a suggestion: Have you tried looking at "Smyrna"? Also, it would be helpful for us if you could name a state, or at least a region. There is a Smyrna, Delaware, just north of Dover. A date - or at least a period - might help, too. Good luck! Isabel

Jim, My husband's family WESTPFAHL (Westfall) came from Mecklenburg, Germany. They did not arrive in this country until mid 1860's and settled in Scranton, PA. At this time we have no Westfalls listed in my husband's line who lived in Delaware. The Delaware connection comes in on my side of the family. Thank you for writing. Mary Ann Fryer Westfall ----- Original Message ----- From: <jhousto4@ix.netcom.com> To: <DENEWCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 5:12 PM Subject: [NewCastle] Joel Westfall and Mary Houston > Mary, > > I couldn't help noticing that your last name is Westfall and that you > might have family from the Kent County, Delaware area. Would you be related > (or your husband be related) to Joel Westfall (b. October 14, 1751), son of > Jacob Westfall. Joel Westfall married Mary Houston (b. October 06, 1758) > probably around 1777 in Monongalia County west Virginia. Mary Houston is the > daughter of James Houston, my 5th great-grandfather who died in Kent County, > Delaware some time before November 14, 1760. > > Jim Houston > Fort Worth, Texas > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Ann Westfall [mailto:matw70@columbus.rr.com] > Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 3:47 PM > To: DENEWCAS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NewCastle] Footen > > > The town you are seeking may be SMYRNA Delaware in Kent County. > > Mary Ann Fryer Westfall > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gerdemanbunch" <gerdemanbunch@web.de> > To: <DENEWCAS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 2:46 PM > Subject: [NewCastle] Footen > > > > Dear list > > I am new to this list. so if you could please help me. > > I am looking for a Mary Footen.All I have on her is her is when she died > April 1981 > > In a town called Symma ,it could be a Cemetery. > > Any help would be nice > > > > John Gerdeman > > lost in History > > > > >

The town you are seeking may be SMYRNA Delaware in Kent County. Mary Ann Fryer Westfall ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerdemanbunch" <gerdemanbunch@web.de> To: <DENEWCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 2:46 PM Subject: [NewCastle] Footen > Dear list > I am new to this list. so if you could please help me. > I am looking for a Mary Footen.All I have on her is her is when she died April 1981 > In a town called Symma ,it could be a Cemetery. > Any help would be nice > > John Gerdeman > lost in History >

Hi, I am researching Rudolf Gonce (spelled several different ways) who md. Widow Polly McDade and he died in 1790 leaving several children including Isaac Gonce, my ancestor. I would love any information on him or his wife. Thank you. Ann Carlton Oppenheimer Researching these surnames: Allen, Allison, Anderson, Atkins, Blevins, Bridges, Carlton, Crouch, Ezell, Gonce, Grigg, Jones, McCrary, Nunnelley, Oppenheimer, Powell (2 lines), Rogers, Sanguinetti, Scott, Truett/Truitt, Whitehorn, Wiggins, Wilson "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." Thomas Edison

Mary, I couldn't help noticing that your last name is Westfall and that you might have family from the Kent County, Delaware area. Would you be related (or your husband be related) to Joel Westfall (b. October 14, 1751), son of Jacob Westfall. Joel Westfall married Mary Houston (b. October 06, 1758) probably around 1777 in Monongalia County west Virginia. Mary Houston is the daughter of James Houston, my 5th great-grandfather who died in Kent County, Delaware some time before November 14, 1760. Jim Houston Fort Worth, Texas -----Original Message----- From: Mary Ann Westfall [mailto:matw70@columbus.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 3:47 PM To: DENEWCAS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NewCastle] Footen The town you are seeking may be SMYRNA Delaware in Kent County. Mary Ann Fryer Westfall ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerdemanbunch" <gerdemanbunch@web.de> To: <DENEWCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 2:46 PM Subject: [NewCastle] Footen > Dear list > I am new to this list. so if you could please help me. > I am looking for a Mary Footen.All I have on her is her is when she died April 1981 > In a town called Symma ,it could be a Cemetery. > Any help would be nice > > John Gerdeman > lost in History >

I looked in the census records. Unfortunately, apparently Delaware didn't do a 1790 census (the first U.S. census). There are two John Gordy's in the 1800 DE census, one in Broad Creek Hundred, Sussex County, the other in Little Creek Hundred, Sussex Co. They list head-of-household only, not other family members. I also looked at New Castle County Wills, 1680-1800 but didn't find any Gordy's. I did a google.com search for "John Gordy" +delaware and came up with 3 pages of hits, mostly in Sussex County. You might try looking at those. You might also contact the DE Archives at: http://www.state.de.us/sos/dpa/ They will do research for a fee. Debbie ------------------------ On Monday, March 15, 2004, at 09:02 PM, SchulzEGS@aol.com wrote: > Can anyone tell me where John Gordy lived or who he married? Any and all > census, or primary documents citations gratefully appreciated. Thanks. > Betty Gordy Schulz in FL > > DE Archives publication called "Revolutionary War <in Three Volumes>" > (Wilmington: Chas. L. Story Company Press, 1919). On page 1276, John > Gordy, along > with Jas. Russell, Wm. McCall, Jas. Alexander, John Kerr, Samuel Kerr, > and James > Kerr, petitioned (dated Jan. 25,1781) "To This Excellency the President > of > the Delaware State" concerning the removal from and formation of > another company > in the Continental Army. These men served in the Whiteclay Creek > Hundred > Company, located in New Castle Co. They opposed the election of > "Commissioned > officers" in 1777 because they said these elections were not held in > "according > to the Militia Law Enacted." These elections took place in the upper > part of > Whiteclay Creek Hundred. These men (and maybe others as well) formed > their > own company. They were fined for this transaction. They presented > their > argument to the state to have their fined lifted AND they wanted to > stay in this > "new" company until lawful elections for "Commissioned officers" in > Whiteclay > Creek Hundred were held. >

Actually Delaware did do a 1790 census but the records were burned, if I remember correctly, in the War of 1812. There is a reconstructed 1790 census available at most genealogical libraries. It was done using records from taxes and militia records, I believe. It should be checked but not relied upon as 100% accurate! Cheers, Alienor

Can anyone tell me where John Gordy lived or who he married? Any and all census, or primary documents citations gratefully appreciated. Thanks. Betty Gordy Schulz in FL DE Archives publication called "Revolutionary War <in Three Volumes>" (Wilmington: Chas. L. Story Company Press, 1919). On page 1276, John Gordy, along with Jas. Russell, Wm. McCall, Jas. Alexander, John Kerr, Samuel Kerr, and James Kerr, petitioned (dated Jan. 25,1781) "To This Excellency the President of the Delaware State" concerning the removal from and formation of another company in the Continental Army. These men served in the Whiteclay Creek Hundred Company, located in New Castle Co. They opposed the election of "Commissioned officers" in 1777 because they said these elections were not held in "according to the Militia Law Enacted." These elections took place in the upper part of Whiteclay Creek Hundred. These men (and maybe others as well) formed their own company. They were fined for this transaction. They presented their argument to the state to have their fined lifted AND they wanted to stay in this "new" company until lawful elections for "Commissioned officers" in Whiteclay Creek Hundred were held.

Just south of New Castle DE on Rte 9 you pass over a silted-in inlet that was once called Gamble's Gut. Which GAMBLE was it named for? When did he live there? How is he related to the GAMBLE families up in Delaware County PA? Would appreciate any info. JRBinkley

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July 11. Asmund Stedham's widow, Mrs. Margareta. July 18. Aron Johan's [Johannson, Johnson] widow, Barbro, in her illness.(23) July 25. Peter Månsson and his wife Karin, also the son Johannes. Aug. 10. Old Mrs. Brita Gustafs, in her illness.(24) Aug. 22. Mårten Gustafsson and his wife Brita. Aug. 29. Mag.[ister] Hesselius and his wife [Sara]. Gustaf Hesselius (25) J.[esper] Swedberg.(26) Herr Abraham Lidenius. Lucas Stedham [with the son] Lucas, and the daughter Ingeborg. Johan Gustafssson and his wife Brita[Andersson from St. George's Sept. 12. Jacob van de Wer and his wife Maria. Sept. 19. Christiern B...(27) Oct. 17. Jomas Wal[rawen] and his wife Annika. Lucas Stedham's wife Annika. Lucas Stedham's wife Catharina. Måna Gustafsson and his wife Catharine. Johan Stalcop with his wife Maria. Nov. 28. Gustaf Gustafsson, Jr.(28) and his wife Kerstin.(29) Dec. 25. Mrs. Maria Braun. Walborg Ostrsen. December 26. Mrs. Brita Dunken. (23) Aaron Johnson Vanderburgh, better known as Aaron Johnson of Bread and Cheese Island, made his will on Jan. 3, 1694, thirteen years before his death. It was a brief and simple bequest of all his property to his wife, as sole heir. A codicil added on Nov. 20, 1701, reflects the enriched, spiritual life which Eric Biork's ministry, and the new church at Christina had brought to the community. There is full reaffirmation of the intent of the original will, but provision is made for later benefits, after the death of the widow to the "Swedes" Church that is built upon Christina, named "Church of the Holy Trinity," and its pastor "the Reverend Minister Mr. Erricus Biorck, for his many good services done unto me and my wife." When Mr. Biork's departure for Sweden became imminent, and hus successor arrived, the church wardens, acting on behalf of the widow, Barbara James Johnson Vandenburgh, fulfilled Aaron's wish that some or a part of his estate, either real or personal, be given to the minister by deeding to him, on June 21, 1712, a 110 acre of land. On June 29, 1714, the land was conveyed in a deed, signed both by Eric Biork and the widow, to James Robinson of "Wedgbury", in Mill Creek Hundred, whose property the tract enjoined. Later James Robinson, a member of the Church of England, gave a portion of the land to St. James Church at White Clay Creek (Stanton). (24) The use of Gustafs as a surname, with no suggestion of an intended positive form, is prhaps the writer's approach to the Justis spelling which had been used earlier in Wicaco and other Philadelphia records. (25) Brother of Andreass Hesselius, a portrait painter of considerable note. (26) Son of Bishop Jes;per Swedberg of the church of Sweden. At the time this entry was made, the younger Swedberg had been visiting at the home of Gustaf Hesselius. for several months. (27) This is almost certainly Christiern (Christian) Branberg, later Brynberg. (28) Cf. Delaware History, V, 185, n. 9. (29). Christiana, wife of Gustaf Gustafsson (Justa Justice) Jr., was a daughter of Neils and Mary Lycan of the Northern Liberties, Philadelphia County.

Communicants in the year 1714: Jan. 1. Old John Gustaf's [Justice's] widow, Mrs. Brita(16); Jonas Walrawen [Walraven] and his wife Annika. Mårten Gustafsson and his wife Brita. Mrs. Maria Braun. Ingebord Stedham. Jan. 6. Jacob van der Wer, Cornelius' wife Maria. Jan. 14. Carl Springer and his wife Maria. Edward Robinsson. Walborg Osterson. Feb. 14. Peter Peter's [Peterson's] wife Karin, over Brandywine, in her illness. March 5. Edward Milsson's wife, Sara, in her illness. March 28. Lucas Stedham and his wife Karin, the son Lucas, and the daughter Ingebord. William Maslander and his wife, Helena. April 4. Anders Kock [Cock] and his wife, Sara. April 14. Thomas Jon's wife Anna, in her illness.(17) April 18. Mr. Biork and his wife Christina. Mag.[ister] Hesselius and his wife, Sara. Anders Gustafsson and his wife, [Brita]. April 25. Peter Meyer's wife Sa[ra]. May 2. Johan Goiding and his [wife Ann[ika]. May 9. Eric Ericksson (from Crane Hook), with his wife Annika, and the son Erik. Brita Clemmetssen's [Clementson's, Clements'] widow. May 10. Mag.[ister] Hesse;ius' wife Sara, in her illness. May 11. Erik Andersson's wife, in her illness. May 14. Robert Braun's widow, Mrs. Maria, in her illness. May 16. John William Lerchenzeiler, with his wife. Johan Didrich Elrod with his wife Maria Magdalena. Albertus Wolbach [Woolbough] and his wife Barbro (sic). Peter Petersson, over Brandywine, and his wife Karin. Olof Tossawa's widow, Mrs. Gertrud. Ingebord Stedham. Mary Moyer. May 30. Peter Petersson's wife Helena. May 31. Johan Andersson Kock's wife Catharina, in her illness. June 6. Philip Van de Wer. June 13. Brita, Lars Mårten's [Morton's] widow(18) June 20. Christiern Stilman [Steelman](19). Conrad Constantin and his wife Kerstin, with the daughter Maria. June 27. Mr. Biork and his wife Christina.(20) Johan van de Wer and his wife Maria.(21). Kerstin [Walrawen], Jesper's [Gilbert's] widow. Måns Gustafsson and his wife Catharine. Regner von Culen and his wife Ingrid.(22) Johan Culen and his wife Kerstin. Sven Colsberg's [Coleberry's] widow Elizabeth. Kerstin Conrad's [Conrad Constantine's] daughter. (16) "The venerable widow" Brita Justis and some of her children and grandchildren have so large a place in the records of Holy Trinity Church that it seems appropriate to include here brief notes on the family background. On Nov. 22, 1699, "Bridget Justis, the mother, and her seven sons, Justa, Mounce, Charles, Hance, John, Swan [Sven], and Andrew, conveyed to James Hunt part of a tract oif land in Kingkessing, Philadelphia County, which had by patent been granted by the Governor of New York on March 10. 1670, to John Justis, deceased. Since it is possible to establish the date of birth of the eldest son, Justa, as 1656, and since he, nor any of his brothers is listed in the 1693 census of the Swedish congregations as having been born in Sweden, it seems quite certain that John Justis, the father, was the Johan Gustafsson from Kinekulle, Sweden, who came here on the "Swan" in 1643 and "served as a soldier until 1653, when he probably became a freeman. No relationship between John Justis and Jon [Juns, James] Justis of Salem County, New Jersey, also Swedish born, has been established. Extracts from now lost parish records of Gloria Dei (Wicaco) Church, Philadelphia, by Rev. Dr. Nicholas Collin and found on a paper in his handwriting, include a subscription list, dated Aug. 10, 1684, containing the names of Brita Jostes, Josta Jostsson, and Mons Jostasson. According to a census taken of the Wicaco congregation, taken in 1697-8. Andrew, the youngest son, was born about 1681. The date of the father's death may be therefore be determined with some exactness. "Brigitta [Brita], daughter of Mouns" (the only clue we have to her parentage) and six of her sons, Justa, Mounce, Charles, John, Swan [Sven], and Andrew, appear in the Wicaco census. Also enrolled is her daughter Annika, wife of Mathias Morton of "Tennicum Creek," Chester Co., now Delaware County, PA. That Hance (a name not to be confused with the German Hans [John], though it is sometimes written so in error) Justis was living in New Castle County in 1697, is evidenced by his witnessing, on March 25th of that year, the will of Oliver Cope, who lived on Naaman's Creek, below the Delaware line. It is probable that Hance and his wife were members of Christina (Ft. Christina, now Wilmington. DE) congregation when pews were assigned in 1699, although the name is recorded as Hans [sic] Gostafsson. There is no one having a similar name, at that period, who cannot be accounted for elsewhere. In 1701 Hance Justis, then a resident of Chichester (Marcus Hook), signed a petition which is to be found in "Documents of the Provincial Council", Logan Papers. On Nov. 16, 1710, Lydia, daughter of Hans [sic] Giostason [sic] of Cecil County, MD, was married by Eric Biork to Mr, Jonas Auren. Andreas Sandel, pastor at Wicaco, journeyed to Maryland for the wedding and recorded the event in his diary. Although the entire family had close ties to the Christina congregation, and at least three of the sons (other than Hance) had land in New Castle County, (DE) Andrew is the only to appear as a communicant during the period covered by this current work. John, Mans, Gustaf, and Morton Justis, whose names appear so frequently in Holy Trinity records, were sons of Justa and Anna (Morton) Justis of Philadelphia Co.; hence, grandsons of John and Brita Justis. Probate records show that Justa, Mounce, Charles, John, Swan [Sven] died in or near Philadelphia. Andrew removed from Wilmington after the death of his wife in 1737, and died in Salem Co., NJ in 1740. At least one daughter of John and Brita Justis became a member of the Christina congregation. There was almost certainly another, and perhaps more of whom we do not know. Annika (Justis) Morton, second wife of Jonas Walraven, Sr., was the widow of Mathias Morton of Chester Co. Later, as the wide of Jonas Walraven, she married Charles Springer, Sr., whose first wife, Maria Hendrickson, died in 1727. The aged Brita Justis died at Christina, and was buried in the Old Swedes churchyard there on Aug. 22, 1724. (17) Anna was buried a week later, in Christina churchyard, and on Sept. 7 following, Thomas Jones married "Mrs. Margareta, Samuel's daughter." Margareta, daughter of Samuel Peterson, was the widow of Asmund Stedham, one of the sons of Tymen Stedham. Confirmation of Margareta's identity as Asmund Stedham's widow is given by a comparison of communicant and baptismal sponsor lists with Asmund's will and deeds. (18) Will of Laurence Morton, Chester Co., PA, dated Apr. 5, 1713, probated June 16, 1713 with bequests to wife Bridget, and child Tobias. (19) Records of the New Castle Court of Common Pleas for the period Nov. 16, 1708 to Feb. 15, 1709. (DE Archives, Dover, DE) mention Christian Steelman of New Castle, cordwainer (shoemaker), and his wife Mary, administrix of James Claypoole of New Castle, deceased. James Claypoole was clerk of the New Castle Court as early as July 30, 1690, when the Proviincial Council of Philadelphia "understanding that James Claypoole, clerk of New Castle County, was in Towne," sent for him. On Oct. 22, 1695, James Claypoole and Mary his wife, were among the friends named in the will of Mary William, of the Town of New Castle. A somewhat unexpected reference to Christian Steelman appears in the minutes of Chester Monthly Meeting for Nov. 27, 1710 and again on Dec. 25, 1710, when he is spoken of, not as a member, but as having been on the Queen's Road "between New Castle and Christeen Ferry." (20) This is the final record of Eric Biork's presence as a Communicate at Holy Trinity Church. Two days later, he and his wife, their five children and a foster child, and his wife's sister Maria, with her husband John Vandever, set out for Bohemia Landing in Maryland, to take ship. Many friends made this first part of the journey with them. Mr. Sandel and others had come from Philaldelphia, and Mr. Lidenius from New Jersey; others waited for them at the "Christina Bridge". The general feeling about Biork's departure is expredded in a letter to Bishop Swedberg by the Christina and Wicaco congregations: "By his edifying sermons, and exalted virtuous life, [he] acquired and leaves after him such great renown that both Swedes and English lament his going away with many tears." (21) John Vandever "Cornelius' son" died in Sweden before May 3, 1720, and his widow married Hans George Smith with whom, and her daughter Christina Vandever, she returned to the Delaware. (22) Census of the Wicaco congregation 1697-98 were "Culen's children", livimg at Crum Creek (Chester, now Delaware County) are listed as Jacob, Reiner, Gregory, and Maria. There were pther Culen and van Culen families also, in Chester Co. at this time. The possibility that an earlier Reigner Vanderculen, Von der Coolen, frequently mentioned in New Castle County records, who appears in Holy Trinity, was the father if the Reiner who appears im Holy Trinity records, seems to be ruled out by his will, dated April 2, 1695, and the subsequent administration in whicch four daughters, but no sons are listed.

Listers....Wish to thank readers for helpful responses to my query re HYATT folks; I'll certainly explore the PA Somerset Co lead, Donna; the land record you quoted, Carol, was all new to me, though I recognize most of the folks mentioned. Appreciate your passing it along. Charlie Murphy near Seattle.

Still not sure how to respond to queries on the list! Has the person looking for MARSHALLs considered looking in lower DE records. Marshall is a common Sussex county name. Also thanks to Debbie who sent me the obituary for Hannah SOLOMON JONES (d. 1833)that said she left 6 children. I recently found her widower in the 1850 Census for West Chester PA. He was remarried and listed with him were the names of 3 of his six children- Mary Jane JONES (b 1826 PA), Abbey JONES (b.1829 PA) and Joseph JONES (b. 1833 PA). Still hoping to find more of Isaac SOLOMONs descendants. Isaac is my g-g-g-grandfather. He died in Wilmington in 1842. Had 9 children. Margery Magens Huemmler

Just my 5 cents- there are a large number of Hyatts in Somerset County, PA in the late 1700's. I believe they came from New Jersey/Delaware. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: <NAVLAWCFM@aol.com> To: <DENEWCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 10:56 AM Subject: [NewCastle] Re: St George Hundred > Listers....Been awhile since I posted my line into New Castle County. I've > traced it (my line) to Isaac Hyatt, Sr 1732-1796 who was farmer in St George's > Hundred. His female children had married into Coombs, Cannon, Antrum & > Vandegrift families of that area. Back further, think my line intersects with a > Peter Hyatt & John Vance Hyatt of Revol War period. I'm confused as to where my > Hyatts originated....perhaps Netherlands or perhaps United Kingdom. As there > were many Hyatts around Delaware in 1700's I find it amazing no one else > researching these folks. What am I missing? Charlie Murphy near Seattle. >

Hi Jeff, Wow your right, so close. I am trying my best to get "back" a few more generations. My Williamson's seem to be here in the States before 1825 (that's the year William P. was born) I have William P. Williamson's mother as Susan born abt. 1800 in PA. but his father is unknown to me. The only Children of William P. and Mary Jane French I have as yet is my 2nd great grand mother Mary Emma Williamson and her brother Edwin Pitman Williamson (as you can see from my first e-mail my great grandfather Edwin Pitman Williamson Marshall was named for him). I also have Edwin Williamson's marriage year to a Laura L...dell (can't read the last name well) Now my Marshall's are just a sparse, William Marshal and Ann E. Marshall I believe had three children: William E. Marshall, John Henry Marshall, Elizabeth Ann Marshall. William E. was the youngest and born in Delaware the older two were born in PA. Robinson, Angeline Robinson (3rd great grand mother) was born in Salem, NJ. Her father Benjamin Robinson and mother Elizabeth Thompson were both born in Salem County, NJ. Angeline married Jonathan Kelty. Their son Clement B. Kelty married Catharine Bullock. Clement and Kate's daughter Edith M. Kelty married Edwin Pitman Williamson Marshall. I Have three William Robinson's in my tree, one is Angeline's brother born November 04, 1809. One is the son of John Robinson and Sarah Morgan (my 5th great grands) and he was born December 08, 1774 I don't know were he was born but he was buried in Pittsgrove, Salem County, NJ in 1806. The last is the son of Benjamin Robinson (not the previous Benjamin) and his wife Sarah, this William was born 1862. In my research for my Salem County relatives I found that there was a lot of transactions between the two towns. Many families owned homes and/or business's in both Wilmington and Salem, there was a daily ferry between the towns as well. My next foray is to Swathmore college! Pamela Wright Bucks County, PA. Researching Surnames: Ashcraft / Ashcroft, Ashfield, Bullock, Canby, Goldstone, Hauf / Hanf, Hewlings, Hornby, Hunt, Kelty, Macknet / Mackinet, Makela, Marshall, Morris, Nori, Robinson, Rose, Stucke, Thorn(e), Wambold, Wampole, Weikel, Wetherill, Wisham.