Yes, I was talking about the Cheshire mention. I had always thought Valentine was from Ireland. Sue Melbourne, Florida

I assume your question was prompted by my quotation from the Harlan genealogy which referred to Valentine Hollingsworth as a "native of Cheshire, England". I believe you are correct that this appears to be an error. See http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~jayken/hollingsworth/ for extensive documented information about the Hollingsworths. Jeff Palmer - jap@highstream.net -----Original Message----- From: SusanVan@aol.com [mailto:SusanVan@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 4:54 PM To: DENEWCAS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NewCastle] Re: HOLLINGSWORTH I do believe that the immigrant Valentine Hollingsworth was from Ireland. It this something else that has been discredited? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.3 - Release Date: 4/25/2005

> "Cornish", as the maiden name of Catherine Hollingsworth, has been discredited. For more on my April 21st posting, see the attachment below. Jeff Palmer - jap@highstream.net -----Attachment----- From http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~jayken/hollingsworth/hr/83190219.htm: The Myth of Catherine Cornish Hollingsworth Register has spent nearly twenty years debunking many falsehoods in print and trying to publish the corrections. For instance, "Descendants of Valentine Hollingsworth, Sr." (1925) by Joseph Adger Stewart, is known for its errors. However, Stewart corrected errors put forth in print by William Baker Hollingsworth in his "Hollingsworth Memoranda" in 1884. Stewart's errors were honest. His were omissions or the placing of certain lineages in the wrong column, so to speak. That could have been, and probably was, a result of his accepting material from donors on face value. (The D.A.R., at its outset in the 1890s, accepted many members as "real daughters" of Revolutionary soldiers, on their say-so with almost no documentation. What a dreadful mistake this proved to be later, when the lineages were proved false when a later descendant wished to join!) WBH put in print one of the worst falsehoods in the whole Hollingsworth story, and this is, in a way, why we write this disclaimer now. The myth of "Catherine Cornish"! Lord help us. Back with us again. We thought it was truth, not fiction, which, when crushed to earth rises again! But here is Myth - Untruth herself - rising up again to scare and to daunt us like a gruesome, lurid phoenix from its putrid ashes! Wm. B. Hollingsworth seems to have relied foolishly upon a letter written in 1824 from one Henry Hollingsworth to another. In this, the writer says their name (Henry) came from Henry Cornish, High Sheriff of London, who was the father of a Catherine Cornish who was the first wife of Valentine Hollingsworth, Sr., and, consequently, their ancestor, through Valentine's son Henry2 Hollingsworth. He left the Friends to become more prominent and in favor with men... aside from the fact that he had been condemned and disowned by the Quakers for allegedly fathering a bastard child (HR Sep 1973,p. 75). In other issues of this journal we have shown that there were Cornish families who were Friends in Pennsylvania and involved with Henry2 Hollingsworth, but no relationship has been found. (See: Henry Cornish - Political Martyr, in HR Sept 1970, pp. 83-86; A Cornish Connection? in June, 1973 p. 59, Sept 1969, p. 99, and other references too numerous to mention.) We have received two letters in 1983 to the effect that your editor told somebody in writing that "Katherine Cornish" wife of Henry Hollingsworth ... father of Valentine1 Hollingsworth, Sr., ... died 1675, was the "Daughter of Edward IV. of York." Well, that is worth a big, healthy belly laugh, folks. If Hollingsworth Register were in the business of making up falsehoods in genealogy and history, do you think that we would have Katherine Cornish dying in 1675, and be the daughter of King Edward the Fourth who died in 1483 over two centuries before? As Roy Orbison would say "Mercy!" Yes, Good King Edward has been dead half a millenium - 500 years. April 9th marked the day. We can trace a probable origin of this almost inconceivable error to our magazine in this way: In HR June, 1974, at page 60 we published the happy story of the marriage of Jacqueline Hollingsworth, of our Wexford family, to Admiral William Right Hollingsworth of the Valentine Hollingsworth family. Your editor stylishly, (in the grip of some euphoric passion) likened the wedding to the marriage of King Henry VII (Henry Tudor, Earl of Richmond - who became king only because Sir William Stanley treacherously changed sides at Bosworth and murdered King Richard in 1485) to "the daughter of Edward IV. of York." Those are my own words in HR. I was referring to Shakespeare's play "Richard III". in the conclusion of which Henry Tudor, speaking a mighty eloquent speech over the corpse of Richard, talks about uniting the "red rose with the white". He was referring to his own marriage which united the houses of York and Lancaster, bringing an end to the Wars of the Roses. (Read Richard the Third, by Paul Murray Kendall (1955-56) and you may change your feelings about King Richard, Henry VII., and especially about William Shakespeare, a good playwright, but a lousy, sycophantic biased-towards-the-Tudor Monarchs historian! The book seems to show that Richard was a devout, Christian man, whom the people loved, especially the inhabitants of the City of York, and that Henry may have had the young heirs to the throne smothered, a horrible murder long attributed to Richard by his orders. The day after Bosworth, York went into mourning and proclaimed the foul murder of their king.) In our article, I was thinking about the tie, at long last, between the Valentine Hollingsworth family and the Wexford Hollingsworth-now- Hollingsworth family. (I had not yet read the Kendall book!) "Edward IV. of York" was my phrase, and probably never used elsewhere, since it would be confusing terms. It appears that the Cornish myth was somehow tragically connected to this phrase. But not so, readers. Although I cannot say that HenryA Hollinworth of Ballyvickcrannell, father of Valentine1 Holling(s)worth the Quaker, was not married to a Katheran Cornish, I can indeed say that Valentine never was! In our informant's letter is also a new twist, that HenryA was identical with the Henrie Hollingworth baptised 24 August 1589 at Everton, Nottinghamshire, son of William Hollingworth, a find I made a few years ago. This statement is no wise proved. Also, they have him dying on 27 Oct l675! That is the date of 3 leases or agreements between the Blackers and Valentine Holling(s)worth before he left Ireland, for details of which see HR June 1971 P. 45. In them, Henry was deceased at the time they were signed. He did not die on that day. Ridiculous! He may have died in the 1641 rebellion. He certainly did not remain at Ballyvickcrannell at that terrible time, when The O'Neill and his rabble were murdering, burning, raping and drowning every Englishman and woman they could lay their fiendish hands upon. But I am of the opinion that Henry survived into the early 1670s and is the man who signed the marriage as I wrote in HR 6:127-131, on 8 Oct 1671, as Hen: Holinworth. His grandson of the same name then being only 13, and being better educated, always signed as Henry Hollingsworth. Be assured that we are investigating the Everton registers, and other registers where Henrys were baptised. Suppose, now, that we locate a burial for this Henry baptised in Everton Church in 1589? Buried as a child. As Karl Malden would ask: Then what will you do? What W I L L you do? Please ... no more myths. Let Catherine Cornish sleep, and rest, if, indeed, she ever lived at all outside of the imagination. -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Palmer [mailto:jap@highstream.net] Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:40 PM To: 'DENEWCAS-L@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [NewCastle] Hollingsworth "Cornish", as the maiden name of Catherine Hollingsworth, has been discredited. Jeff Palmer - jap@highstream.net * * * Quote of the Week: “Washington is a city of southern efficiency and northern charm.” -- John F. Kennedy -- No virus found in this outgoing message. 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I do believe that the immigrant Valentine Hollingsworth was from Ireland. It this something else that has been discredited?

From "History and Genealogy of the Harlan Family...", by Alpheus H. Harlan, 1914, pp. 14 & 33 [Reprint available from Gateway Press]: The Abigail who married William Harlan in 1748 was the daughter of Enoch Hollingsworth (b. c1702 in New Castle Co., DE) and his first wife, Joanna Crowley. Enoch was the son of Samuel Hollingsworth ("b. in 1672 near the city of Belfast") and Hannah Harlan ("Friend, b. 2, 4, 1681, Parish of Donnahlong, County of Down, Province of Ulster, Ireland"). Samuel was a son of Valentine Hollingsworth, a "native of Cheshire, England". From Harlan, p. 37: The Sarah Hollingsworth ("Friend, b. date unknown, in Kennet Twp. [now Kennett Twp., Chester County, PA]") who married Aaron Harlan "by Episcopal ceremony at Holy Trinity (Old Swedes) Church, Wilmington, Del., 3 Mo., 1746" was a daughter of "Valentine Hollingsworth and Elizabeth Heald, farmers in Kennet." This Valentine Hollingsworth would have been a son or grandson of "the" Valentine Hollingsworth. (There's enough additional information about these lines to justify tracking down a copy of this book.) Jeff Palmer - jap@highstream.net * * * Quote of the Week: “The least initial deviation from the truth is multiplied later a thousandfold.” -- Aristotle (384-322 B.C.) -----Original Message----- From: Jan Ammann [mailto:janammann@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 5:24 PM To: DENEWCAS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NewCastle] Re: HOLLINGSWORTH <SNIPPED> Is the Valentine Hollingsworth you are discussing any relation to the Abigail Hollingsworth who married William Harlan in 1748? There was also a Sarah Hollingsworth who married a Aaron Harlan in 1746. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 4/21/2005

Hi Jan: Abigail Hollingsworth b 27 11mo 1729 Kennett Twp., Chester, PA d 23 Jan 1807 Wilmington, New Castle, DE m 1 10mo 1748 Centre Meeting House, New Castle, DE to William Harlan is the daughter of Enoch b 1702 d Aug 1752 and his first wife, Joanna Crowley. They were married 23 10mo 1725 at Centre M.H., New Castle, DE. Enoch is the son of Samuel b 1673 d 1748 & Hannah Harlan Hollingsworth and Samuel is the son of Valentine b 1632 d Bef 1710 and his second wife Ann Calvert. This Valentine is the son of Henry Hollingsworth b abt 1590 and his wife Catherine. This is the Valentine of recent discussion. Sarah Hollingsworth who married Aaron Harlan May 1746 at Old Swede's Church, Wilmington, New Castle, DE was the daughter of Valentine b 1677 d 1757 and Elizabeth Heald Hollingsworth. This Valentine is the son of Valentine b 1632 and brother to Samuel who married Hannah Harlan above. If you would like more on these family members, please let me know...Candy :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Ammann" <janammann@sbcglobal.net> To: <DENEWCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 5:24 PM Subject: [NewCastle] Re: HOLLINGSWORTH > Hello.....I joined this list several months ago but this is only my second post. I would like to ask the listers who are discussing the name Hollingsowrth a few questions if I may. > > Is the Valentine Hollingsworth you are discussing any relation to the Abigail Hollingsworth who married William Harlan in 1748? There was also a Sarah Hollingsworth who married a Aaron Harlan in 1746. > > Also.....in the 1899 Wilmington, Delaware City Directory there is a listing for The Harlan and Hollingsworth Co. who are builders of iron and steel steamships and railroad cars. They were located on the South Side of Railroad at West Street - Foundry 500 W. Front. > > These two families, Hollingsworth and Harlan, were also related to the Price and Fairlamb families. They lived in the New Castle, Wilmington, De. area. > > Thanks for any response. > > Jan > > DENEWCAS-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > DENEWCAS-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 37 > > Today's Topics: > #1 look up [paul palmateer > #2 Hollingsworth [paul palmateer > #3 Re: [NewCastle] Hollingsworth [RLWysong@aol.com] > #4 Re: [NewCastle] Hollingsworth [HFAGLEY@aol.com] > > Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:43:01 +0100 (BST) > From: paul palmateer <plp128@yahoo.co.uk> > To: DENEWCAS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Hollingsworth > > Hi, > I have a copy of an article on the Newark Union Cemetery. > Valentine Hollingsworth, who died 1711 is buried there. It says he came from Ireland with William Penn. In 1687, he donated a half-acre near his home for a cemetery, "being some already buried in ye spot". Another acre was added around 1846 when the church was built. > It is a beautiful old cemetery where many people who lived in Brandywine 100 were buried including my family. > > Paula > Jeff Palmer wrote: > "Cornish", as the maiden name of Catherine Hollingsworth, has been > discredited. > > Jeff Palmer - jap@highstream.net > * * * > Quote of the Week: "Washington is a city of southern efficiency and > northern charm." -- John F. Kennedy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 5:08 PM > Subject: [NewCastle] Hollingsworth > > > I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Valentine Hollingsworth. He was the > > son of > > Henry and Catherine (Cornish) Hollingsworth of Belleniskcrannell. He > > came to Pa. 1682. He settled in a plantation of nearly 1000 acres on > > Shellpot Creek in Brandywine Hundred, New Castle, Co. I am a > > descendant of Valentine, as are so many others. Sue van Vonno > > Melbourne, Florida > > -- > > > > > > >

Hello.....I joined this list several months ago but this is only my second post. I would like to ask the listers who are discussing the name Hollingsowrth a few questions if I may. Is the Valentine Hollingsworth you are discussing any relation to the Abigail Hollingsworth who married William Harlan in 1748? There was also a Sarah Hollingsworth who married a Aaron Harlan in 1746. Also.....in the 1899 Wilmington, Delaware City Directory there is a listing for The Harlan and Hollingsworth Co. who are builders of iron and steel steamships and railroad cars. They were located on the South Side of Railroad at West Street - Foundry 500 W. Front. These two families, Hollingsworth and Harlan, were also related to the Price and Fairlamb families. They lived in the New Castle, Wilmington, De. area. Thanks for any response. Jan DENEWCAS-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: DENEWCAS-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 37 Today's Topics: #1 look up [paul palmateer #2 Hollingsworth [paul palmateer #3 Re: [NewCastle] Hollingsworth [RLWysong@aol.com] #4 Re: [NewCastle] Hollingsworth [HFAGLEY@aol.com] Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:43:01 +0100 (BST) From: paul palmateer <plp128@yahoo.co.uk> To: DENEWCAS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Hollingsworth Hi, I have a copy of an article on the Newark Union Cemetery. Valentine Hollingsworth, who died 1711 is buried there. It says he came from Ireland with William Penn. In 1687, he donated a half-acre near his home for a cemetery, "being some already buried in ye spot". Another acre was added around 1846 when the church was built. It is a beautiful old cemetery where many people who lived in Brandywine 100 were buried including my family. Paula Jeff Palmer wrote: "Cornish", as the maiden name of Catherine Hollingsworth, has been discredited. Jeff Palmer - jap@highstream.net * * * Quote of the Week: �Washington is a city of southern efficiency and northern charm.� -- John F. Kennedy ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 5:08 PM Subject: [NewCastle] Hollingsworth > I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Valentine Hollingsworth. He was the > son of > Henry and Catherine (Cornish) Hollingsworth of Belleniskcrannell. He > came to Pa. 1682. He settled in a plantation of nearly 1000 acres on > Shellpot Creek in Brandywine Hundred, New Castle, Co. I am a > descendant of Valentine, as are so many others. Sue van Vonno > Melbourne, Florida --

Good morning I am posting this to see if I can learn where to look for an 1853 Delaware birth record, should it exist. William A. Molyneaux WINDEL was born about 1853 to the Rev. William Colwell WINDEL and Jane MOLYNEAUX. The birth year is an estimate based on his being shown as age 28 in the 1881 census of Canada. According to the the Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland Rev. William C. Windel was in the USA from 1850 to 1856 and returned to Belfast in 1856 from the Presbytery of Newcastle, USA. He was installed as a missionary to Canada by Presbytery of Belfast 25 August 1856. It would seem quite likely the birth took place in New Castle Co. According to the book "History of Delaware, 1609-1888," by J. Thomas Scharf, p. 891, Rev. W.C. Windle was pastor of Green Hill Presbyterian Church in Christiana Hundred, New Castle Co., Delaware: "In 1851 the Rev. S.M. Gayley was succeeded by the Rev. W.C. Windle, who was pastor three years." Also, the Presbyterian Historical Society has confirmed that William C. Windell appears on the rolls of the Presbyterian Church in the USA from 1853 to 1856, as a member of the Presbytery of New Castle. I have ordered material from the Society to help research the Reverend. I am interested to know if there are records that can be searched or do I need to rely on finding church christening/baptism records to documnt the birth of William Jr. Thanks very much and have a great day. Murray Jones Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada Mclaughlin's Law: "In a key position in every genealogy you will find a John Smith from London"

> Keep in mind that I have only a few pages of these records in 2 journal > pages.I did order the CD with other records but I did not look to see if > there are other Irish records on them. > I did not find any Erskines. > I did find Mc Caffertys: Eliza (Child)July 26th 1853 sailed June 24th In > place of Magt.McCafferty, dead. Also M.McClafferty on same ship "Roger > Stewart" from Liverpool. > There is also a marriage Margaret McCafferty& George Freeberry January 1st > 1898.parents Phelin & Margaret, Ireland. > The only McClure is David son of David student at Newark College in 1844. > Kathy Carrow Ingram >

Thanks Kathy for your assistance. Tom Brink

Hi, I have a copy of an article on the Newark Union Cemetery. Valentine Hollingsworth, who died 1711 is buried there. It says he came from Ireland with William Penn. In 1687, he donated a half-acre near his home for a cemetery, "being some already buried in ye spot". Another acre was added around 1846 when the church was built. It is a beautiful old cemetery where many people who lived in Brandywine 100 were buried including my family. Paula Jeff Palmer <jap@highstream.net> wrote: "Cornish", as the maiden name of Catherine Hollingsworth, has been discredited. Jeff Palmer - jap@highstream.net * * * Quote of the Week: “Washington is a city of southern efficiency and northern charm.” -- John F. Kennedy ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 5:08 PM Subject: [NewCastle] Hollingsworth > I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Valentine Hollingsworth. He was the > son of > Henry and Catherine (Cornish) Hollingsworth of Belleniskcrannell. He > came to Pa. 1682. He settled in a plantation of nearly 1000 acres on > Shellpot Creek in Brandywine Hundred, New Castle, Co. I am a > descendant of Valentine, as are so many others. Sue van Vonno > Melbourne, Florida -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 4/21/2005 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Kathy, I would like a look up on William Erskine. Thanks Paula : "Kathleen & James Ingram" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:05 AM Subject: [NewCastle] Irish to Wilmington > Anyone who has famine-era Irish immigrants to the Wilmington area should look to the two latest editions of the Delaware Genealogical Society's Journal.DuPont apparently paid for tickets for families and their names are listed. > I would do a look-up.The journals are really great. > Kathy Carrow Ingram > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

For many years,I thought Val Hollingsworth's brother-in-law,John Chenoweth , was my ancestor. Then,a will was found that showed I was tracing the wrong FOX brother. Anyway, 15 years ago,a genealogy pen pal of mine visited a Mr Farmer [?] in the east side of Cincinnati,and let me read a remarkable history of the Hollingsworth's in Ireland,and in n Del. Today,my interest is in Pencader Hundred Welsh Tract Baptist Welsh,and kinsmen David and Esther Jones,of White Clay Hundred,near Cooch's Bridge. David's will mentions George Brown,and son,George Jr,John,William,and Thomas,of Mill Creek Hundred. Mill wrights,mostly. I gather that the Brandywine,and the other creeks of very northern Delaware like the Red Clay,the White Clay,Mill Creek,and Ball's Run had a lot of waterpower,and powered many mills. Google tells me of another famous mill wright,Oliver Evans,of Charles Evans and his Stalcup wife,b 1755 at Newport,on the Christina. Back in 1992,I was on Prodigy genealogy with Alvie Davidson,who used to speak at national genealogy meetings about Delaware's Welsh Tract to SC 's Welsh Neck Baptists. Personally,I had Welsh in the main 1680 Welsh Tract just west of Philadelphia [Dr Thomas Wynne and Morgan Abraham's widow]. And I had Edward Foulke at the Gwynedd Welsh colony of 1698 25 miles nw of Philadelphia. Sorry,but somebody's at the door.

Kathy, Would appreciate it if you would look up the two great great grandfathers of mine. Charles McCafferty born in Ireland James McClure born in Ireland. Both had families and died in Delaware. Thanks, Tom Brink

I would love to see a copy of the article about Newark Union Cemetery. I have relatives buried there at least as long ago as 1792 (Catherine Perkins, wife of Caleb Perkins, d. 1804 and also buried there). Is it short enough to paste into a message here or is there another way to get a copy? Roberta

Thanks, I knew some of the Hollingsworth information had been discredited but didn't know which part of the expansive information. Sue

"Cornish", as the maiden name of Catherine Hollingsworth, has been discredited. Jeff Palmer - jap@highstream.net * * * Quote of the Week: “Washington is a city of southern efficiency and northern charm.” -- John F. Kennedy ----- Original Message ----- From: <SusanVan@aol.com> To: <DENEWCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 5:08 PM Subject: [NewCastle] Hollingsworth > I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Valentine Hollingsworth. He was the > son of > Henry and Catherine (Cornish) Hollingsworth of Belleniskcrannell. He > came to Pa. 1682. He settled in a plantation of nearly 1000 acres on > Shellpot Creek in Brandywine Hundred, New Castle, Co. I am a > descendant of Valentine, as are so many others. Sue van Vonno > Melbourne, Florida -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 4/21/2005

He's my 8th g/granpa too! :) ----- Original Message ----- From: <SusanVan@aol.com> To: <DENEWCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 5:08 PM Subject: [NewCastle] Hollingsworth > I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Valentine Hollingsworth. He was the son of > Henry and Catherine (Cornish) Hollingsworth of Belleniskcrannell. > He came to Pa.1682. He settled in a plantation of nearly 1000 acres on > Shellpot Creek in Brandywine Hundred, New Castle, Co. > I am a descendant of Valentine, as are so many others. > Sue van Vonno > Melbourne, Florida >

Don't remember much about the house. Isn't Delaware Ave. on the river? The back yard was the river at the property I was looking at. Which DuPont records do you have again? The names you mention don't ring a bell but they might be those I don't know yet. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen & James Ingram" <kathlingram@inteliport.com> To: <DENEWCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 2:38 PM Subject: [NewCastle] Russells Grove > It may be the same place.In 1920 it was Russells Grove but maybe they were calling it something else in 1930? > What did the big house look like? There are more than one large houses there.Also there were MANY more small houses years ago.Bortons Beach, Risners Row etc. The whole area between Delaware Avenue & the river was called the NORTH SHORE and the other side of West Main Street was called the SOUTH SHORE.There was a Delaware Drive in the South Shore. > I also found the following Russells in the DuPont Company records: Ann , James G., Mary, Matthew, & Robt. > Kathy > >

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Valentine Hollingsworth. He was the son of Henry and Catherine (Cornish) Hollingsworth of Belleniskcrannell. He came to Pa.1682. He settled in a plantation of nearly 1000 acres on Shellpot Creek in Brandywine Hundred, New Castle, Co. I am a descendant of Valentine, as are so many others. Sue van Vonno Melbourne, Florida