Toxey, i do not have any patents, yes everything goes on Deloach-@rootweb.com, who was your grandparents, were they one of W.H. DeLoachs sons or his dau., amm new at this PC please let me hear from you, uyou are also the only direct decendent i have found from W.H. DeLoach, and my Grandfather H.H. DeLoach, thanks a million , let me hear from you. Merritt Island is not very far away, maybe we'll see each orther one day, take care cousin, Andrew DeLoach Bryan, Jax. Fl.