Hi DeGruy researchers: Thanks Renee for getting this started. Maybe now we can "see" what everyone has on the line and really compare notes. I am Isabel Singer Gathright, a descendant of Joseph Verloin Degruy and Marie Heloise Saulet. I am a transplanted New Orleanian, currenting living outside Little Rock, Arkansas. I am interested in clarifying some "facts" on that line. Did Francois Joseph Dufouchard Verloin Degruy marry twice? It appears that his first wife was Marie Louise Isabelle Heloise Saulet. Was his second wife Carlotta Falgou? With so many Degruy men having the same or similar names, then marrying women who appear to be related on the mother's surname, it gets really confusing. It appears that many married cousins. If they did, according to Catholic laws, they would need a dispensation to marry so we should be able to locate some records for these dispensations. I have an abstract of a donation record that lists Marie Azelie Saulet, widow of Louis Foucher. It states the names of her children and notes that Marie Heloise Saulet, is divorced from Joseph Verloin DeGruy. In that time period there were very strict divorce laws. Divorce was authorized for adultery, if one of the parties was convicted of a felony, or abandonment of 5 or more years. :I do not know the reason for the divorce, but it seems that they were divorced. These original records are in the New Orleans Notarial Archives, under the records of Charles Victor Foulon, notary. Dated Nov. 19, 1838. They are also listed in Donation Book 4, pp 457 and 458. I have never made the trip to the N O Notarial Archives to locate the original divorce papers. Does someone on the list have these papers? In the Mortgage/Donation Books, there are marriages listed for two of the children of Joseph Verloin DeGruy and Marie Heloise Saulet: With these two brothers marrying what looks like some relation to their mother's Saulet line, it is possible that they needed a dispensation from the church to marry. I have not looked into these dispensation records. 1. Marriage of Paul Emile Verloin deGruy and Elizabeth Foucher Dec. 15, 1838 Donation Book 4 pp 460, 461. Elizabeth is the daughter of Antoine Foucher (dec) and Marie Melicente Saulet (dec). The marriage was authorized by Francois Saulet. 2. Marriage of Joseph Theophile Verloin deGruy, son of Joseph Verloin DeGruy and Marie Heloise Saulet, to Josephine Anais Foucher, daughter of Antoine Foucher and Marie Melicente Saulet, April 15, 1837 Donation Book 4 pp 284, 285. It appears that the parents were alive for this marriage, but dead by the time the second daughter married. I do not know for sure if they were alive, but since the entry does not list deceased next to their name it appears that they were alive. Anyone out there able to clarify any of the above information? I have not done active on site research on this line in years, so I am looking at old copies of items that I gathered back in the 1980s when I lived in the area. . Looking forward to tying up so loose ends. Thanks to all, Isabel Singer Gathright Maumelle, AR