The chart that I use shows Pierre Verloin DeGruy as the son of Joseph Verloin DeGruy and Marianne Couturier. You cannot find his birth record as (I assume) it is one of the records destroyed in the great New Orleans fire in the 1780s. However, you can find information on him in the Sacramental Records which note his parentage. Look in the volume for 1816 and you will see his marriage to Francoise Azelie Daspit St. Amant (his second wife). Subsequent volumes show the baptismal records of their children and the records of the parents and grandparents. Look in the volumes for 1800-1805 and you will find the records of the birth of his children by his first wife, Jeanne Glapion, and the record of her burial in 1805. Both Renee and I are descended from him through his marriage to Francoise Azelie St. Amant, so we have an interest in that part of the DeGruy family. There is a portrait of him in the Cabildo. Wally in Slidell -----Original Message----- From: Bill Richardson [mailto:wrichardson@dcnet2000.com] Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 2:25 PM To: DEGRUY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: another poor anonymous female Someone out there help me with some confusion. I keep seeing various Degruy names on the list, especially early ones such as mentioned here and I try to connect to what little information I have and find discrepancies. For instance the Pierre Verloin Degruy mentioned below does not appear in my records, but I do have Julia Delphin as the daughter of Joseph Verloin Degruy. All the records I have encountered have shown his name as such. I have not run into an instance where Pierre is mentioned. For instance Julia's baptismal record from vol 5. of Sacramental Records of the diocese is as noted below: DEGRUY, Julia Delphina (Josef and Mariana Couturier, both of this parish), b. Dec. 17, 1792, bn. Aug. 1, 1792, pgp. Juan Bautista DE GRUY and Maria Theresa AUFRENE, native of Dauphine in France, mgp. Pedro COUTURIER and Francisca DUPONT, s. Juan Bautista LABATUT and Julia DURIEUX, residents of this parish (SLC, B11, 230); Sacramental Records of the Archdiocese of New Orleans, vol.5, 1791-1795, p.105 -----Original Message----- From: cmj@acsalaska.net [mailto:cmj@acsalaska.net] Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 11:05 PM To: DEGRUY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: another poor anonymous female She was Julia Delphine Verloin DeGruy, born August 1, 1792. Julia married Jean Phillipe Boutte on 21 May 1812. ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. Hotard, Degruy List Administrator [Please do not send me anonymous, forwarded, chain emails. Thank you.]" <degruylist@earthlink.net> To: <DEGRUY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 5:56 AM Subject: another poor anonymous female > Ok... who can help me with another of these poor anonymous females who > were known only by which males they were married to and which males > they were daughters of ;-) > > We have Mrs Philippe Boute who was the daughter of Pierre Verloin > Degruy. > > Can someone please give this poor woman an identity all her own????? > > Her death date was 8-26-1845 Citation 9 823 > > Thanks! > > Renee > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=1459 9 <http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=145 99&targetid=5429> &targetid=5429 > ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=1459 9 <http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=145 99&targetid=5429> &targetid=5429 ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx