I just posted a photo of the Famille Francois deGruy tomb to the website. Agnes Verloin deGruy Perrin and her spouse Geroge D. Perrin are buried there, as are Francois III and Francois V. deGruy, II and Felicie Foucher. This confirms some of David's dates from this note. Celine ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. Hotard, Degruy List Administrator [Please do not send me anonymous, forwarded, chain emails. Thank you.]" <degruylist@earthlink.net> To: <DEGRUY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:44 AM Subject: Francois Verloin DeGruy information withdrawn from web site > Hi, > > Based on comments by Isabel I have removed the commentary I inserted on > the Degruy web site under the Death Certificate for François Verloin > DeGruy to read as follows: > "This is the death certificate of François Verloin Degruy who died 2 > October 1901 at the age of 62. It looks like he lived at 1129 Baronne > [did I spell Baronne right? Can't read the handwriting on record] > Street. Orleans Deaths Volume 125 Page 1138." > > The reason I have withdrawn that information is that we need to get some > confusions straightened out before information is placed on web site. > For example: > ---------------------- > Note on the web site that we have records for 2 different François > Degruys, one dying in 1900 and one dying in 1901. > We have to be sure we know who is who and which is which before we > insert additional information. > > ........ > Following is my transcription of some notes given to me by David..... > These notes are typed in a script style and David's handwriting is > superimposed over many of the names and dates in his effort to correct > them. I am not sure where the typed version came from, but I will ask > David next time I talk with him; however, a note on top says: "My Uncle > wrote this. He has his father dead before He married his mother. I did > it over. David".... now this may be David's "Uncle Frank," but I need to > verify. > Whoever he was this "Uncle" must have had something wrong with > typewriter because every time he writes "children", it comes out "childred" > > Again, I am submitting this to Degruy-L..... for discussion or for you > to check with your records, but not putting anything on the web site > until it is supported by "records" > > Page begins: > > > Verloin de Gruy > (Francois Verloin deGruy -- down to six generations -- to April 1966) > > [Francois: crossed out and Joseph inserted to read: > Joseph Verloin deGruy married Heloise Saulet. They had eleven [scratched > out to read 12] childred. [sic] > Their names were; Francois Verloin deGruy ["Jr" is scratched out] -- > married Felice Foucher. > > Emile, Theopile [sic], Jules, Camille, Enthime,Virginie, Estelle, > Clementine, Laure and Corinne. ()see Francois Verloin deGruy marriage to > Heloise Salet [Salet scratched out and Saulet inserted] herein for > linage [sic] of other ten] > > Francois Verloin deGruy ["Jr." scratched out], married Felice Foucher, > they had [looks like "ten" is scratched out and "Seven, 7" inserted > above] children. Died August 15, 1900 > Their names were; Alfred, James, George, Felicie, Julia and Francois III > [David writes in margin: 2 died; another note says "Francois II died > young."] > > Francois Verloin deGruy III married Alix Gaiennie [David inserts "his > cousin... and April 22, 1892"..(for their marriage date), they had four > children. [David's note: Frank died Aug. 15, 1900] > > Their names were: > [David inserts "Marie"] Estelle Verloin deGruy [David inserts Born > 1893...2/26/93] married to Eugene Johannan -- No childred [sic] [David > inserts: Estelle died Sun. Aug 30, 1931 - 38 years old] > > Irene [David inserts Francois] Verloin deGruy [David inserts 7/20/1895] > married to Raymond Junqua - 1 daughter Adoree > [David inserts: "Franloire" [difficult to read] Agnes Verloin deGruy > [David inserts "born 1/6/1897"] married to George D. Perrin - 4 childred > [sic]; Byron, Louise, Audrey and David. [David inserts: "Died May 11 or > 16 - hard to read - 1997 - 100 years old] > > Francois Verloin deGruy, IV [David inserted "IV" also"Born May 20, > 1899-1992] Married to Era M. Coney - 3 Childred [sic], Carol-Alix, > Francois V, David > ----------------------- > Francois Verloin deGruy IV [David inserts: "Old line in Mobile, Ala"] > married Era Coney. They had three childred; > > Carol Alix Verloin deGruy [david inserts Sep 24] married to John Winter > - 2 Childred, Carol Alix and John Winter Jr. > > Francois Verloin deGruy [David inserts: Aug 16] Married to Katherine > Collins - 4 childred, Francois 6th, Glenn, Kenneth and Michael > > David Verloin deGruy [David inserts Nov. 21] Married to Mildred Easley > - 1 child, David Jr. > ------------------- > > Carol Alix Verloin deGruy married John Winter [as of April 1966] > Their children are: > John Winter Jr Married to Susan Richardson [David inserts 3 x to her] > - 1 daughter Jamie > > Carol Alix Winter Unmarried (16 years old) [David scratechs out and > inserts "married 2x] > > --------- > Francois Verloin deGruy, the 5th, married to Katherine Collins > Their children are; > Francois Verloin deGruy, the 6th, unmarried, student > Glenn Verloin deGruy ... unmarried, student > Michael Verloin deGruy....unmarried > Kenneth Verloin deGruy.... unmarried, student > [David inserts: "All married now"] > ---------- > > David Verloin deGruy, married to Mildred Easley. One child > David Verloin deGruy, Jr, un married, student. [David inserts: "Not any > more. Married 2x"] > ---------------------------- > Then in handwriting at bottom of page David writes in dates for the > following folks. I am not including dates in case any are living; > probably not, but want to be safe]: > Marie Estelle Verloin deGruy; Irene Francois Verloin deGruy; Francois > Agnes Verloin deGruy; Francois Verloin de Gruy IV > > ------------------------ > There are several other typewritten papers like this.... too long for me > to transcribe here. I'll give first lines only > Virginie Verloin DeGruy married Jules Fazende.... > Corinne Verloin deGruy married Bruno Jaquet > Verloin deGruy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Based on the dates on the two death certificates, I will check the obituaries in the microfilms of the Times-Picayune on and shortly after those dates. That may clarify which Francois Verloin DeGruy died in 1900 and which one in 1901. I am out of town on a business trip for the next few days, but I will try to get this done in the next week to 10 days. Wally -----Original Message----- From: cmj@acsalaska.net [mailto:cmj@acsalaska.net] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:50 AM To: DEGRUY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Francois Verloin DeGruy information withdrawn from web site I just posted a photo of the Famille Francois deGruy tomb to the website. Agnes Verloin deGruy Perrin and her spouse Geroge D. Perrin are buried there, as are Francois III and Francois V. deGruy, II and Felicie Foucher. This confirms some of David's dates from this note. Celine ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. Hotard, Degruy List Administrator [Please do not send me anonymous, forwarded, chain emails. Thank you.]" <degruylist@earthlink.net> To: <DEGRUY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:44 AM Subject: Francois Verloin DeGruy information withdrawn from web site > Hi, > > Based on comments by Isabel I have removed the commentary I inserted on > the Degruy web site under the Death Certificate for François Verloin > DeGruy to read as follows: > "This is the death certificate of François Verloin Degruy who died 2 > October 1901 at the age of 62. It looks like he lived at 1129 Baronne > [did I spell Baronne right? Can't read the handwriting on record] > Street. Orleans Deaths Volume 125 Page 1138." > > The reason I have withdrawn that information is that we need to get some > confusions straightened out before information is placed on web site. > For example: > ---------------------- > Note on the web site that we have records for 2 different François > Degruys, one dying in 1900 and one dying in 1901. > We have to be sure we know who is who and which is which before we > insert additional information. > > ........ > Following is my transcription of some notes given to me by David..... > These notes are typed in a script style and David's handwriting is > superimposed over many of the names and dates in his effort to correct > them. I am not sure where the typed version came from, but I will ask > David next time I talk with him; however, a note on top says: "My Uncle > wrote this. He has his father dead before He married his mother. I did > it over. David".... now this may be David's "Uncle Frank," but I need to > verify. > Whoever he was this "Uncle" must have had something wrong with > typewriter because every time he writes "children", it comes out "childred" > > Again, I am submitting this to Degruy-L..... for discussion or for you > to check with your records, but not putting anything on the web site > until it is supported by "records" > > Page begins: > > > Verloin de Gruy > (Francois Verloin deGruy -- down to six generations -- to April 1966) > > [Francois: crossed out and Joseph inserted to read: > Joseph Verloin deGruy married Heloise Saulet. They had eleven [scratched > out to read 12] childred. [sic] > Their names were; Francois Verloin deGruy ["Jr" is scratched out] -- > married Felice Foucher. > > Emile, Theopile [sic], Jules, Camille, Enthime,Virginie, Estelle, > Clementine, Laure and Corinne. ()see Francois Verloin deGruy marriage to > Heloise Salet [Salet scratched out and Saulet inserted] herein for > linage [sic] of other ten] > > Francois Verloin deGruy ["Jr." scratched out], married Felice Foucher, > they had [looks like "ten" is scratched out and "Seven, 7" inserted > above] children. Died August 15, 1900 > Their names were; Alfred, James, George, Felicie, Julia and Francois III > [David writes in margin: 2 died; another note says "Francois II died > young."] > > Francois Verloin deGruy III married Alix Gaiennie [David inserts "his > cousin... and April 22, 1892"..(for their marriage date), they had four > children. [David's note: Frank died Aug. 15, 1900] > > Their names were: > [David inserts "Marie"] Estelle Verloin deGruy [David inserts Born > 1893...2/26/93] married to Eugene Johannan -- No childred [sic] [David > inserts: Estelle died Sun. Aug 30, 1931 - 38 years old] > > Irene [David inserts Francois] Verloin deGruy [David inserts 7/20/1895] > married to Raymond Junqua - 1 daughter Adoree > [David inserts: "Franloire" [difficult to read] Agnes Verloin deGruy > [David inserts "born 1/6/1897"] married to George D. Perrin - 4 childred > [sic]; Byron, Louise, Audrey and David. [David inserts: "Died May 11 or > 16 - hard to read - 1997 - 100 years old] > > Francois Verloin deGruy, IV [David inserted "IV" also"Born May 20, > 1899-1992] Married to Era M. Coney - 3 Childred [sic], Carol-Alix, > Francois V, David > ----------------------- > Francois Verloin deGruy IV [David inserts: "Old line in Mobile, Ala"] > married Era Coney. They had three childred; > > Carol Alix Verloin deGruy [david inserts Sep 24] married to John Winter > - 2 Childred, Carol Alix and John Winter Jr. > > Francois Verloin deGruy [David inserts: Aug 16] Married to Katherine > Collins - 4 childred, Francois 6th, Glenn, Kenneth and Michael > > David Verloin deGruy [David inserts Nov. 21] Married to Mildred Easley > - 1 child, David Jr. > ------------------- > > Carol Alix Verloin deGruy married John Winter [as of April 1966] > Their children are: > John Winter Jr Married to Susan Richardson [David inserts 3 x to her] > - 1 daughter Jamie > > Carol Alix Winter Unmarried (16 years old) [David scratechs out and > inserts "married 2x] > > --------- > Francois Verloin deGruy, the 5th, married to Katherine Collins > Their children are; > Francois Verloin deGruy, the 6th, unmarried, student > Glenn Verloin deGruy ... unmarried, student > Michael Verloin deGruy....unmarried > Kenneth Verloin deGruy.... unmarried, student > [David inserts: "All married now"] > ---------- > > David Verloin deGruy, married to Mildred Easley. One child > David Verloin deGruy, Jr, un married, student. [David inserts: "Not any > more. Married 2x"] > ---------------------------- > Then in handwriting at bottom of page David writes in dates for the > following folks. I am not including dates in case any are living; > probably not, but want to be safe]: > Marie Estelle Verloin deGruy; Irene Francois Verloin deGruy; Francois > Agnes Verloin deGruy; Francois Verloin de Gruy IV > > ------------------------ > There are several other typewritten papers like this.... too long for me > to transcribe here. I'll give first lines only > Virginie Verloin DeGruy married Jules Fazende.... > Corinne Verloin deGruy married Bruno Jaquet > Verloin deGruy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Regarding the two different Francis/Francois DeGruys: The New Orleans Times-Democrat of October 28, 1901 has the following obituary: DE GRUY – On Sunday, Oct. 27, 1901, at 8:20 o’clock p.m., FRANCOIS VERLOIN DE GRUY, aged sixty-two years, son of Theophile Verloin DeGruy and Felicite Anais Foucher. The friends and families of De Gruy, Marmillion and Rigob are respectfully invited to his funeral, which will start from the residence of his brother-in-law, 1129 Baronne Street, between Calliope and Clio streets, at 3 o’clock this (Monday) afternoon. The death certificate reflects similar information except it does not specify his parents nor that the address at which he died was his brother-in-law’s house, not his. The New Orleans Daily Picayune of August 16, 1900 has the following obituary: De GRUY – On Wednesday, August 15, 1900, at 5:30 o’clock p.m., FRANCIS V. De GRUY, aged 46 years, a native of New Orleans, La. The relatives, friends and acquaintances of the family are respectfully invited to attend the funeral which will take place This (Thursday) afternoon at 4 o’clock p.m. from the late residence of the deceased, No. 4853 Magazine street, near Upperline. This Francis V. DeGruy appear to be the son of Francis Joseph Verloin DeGruy and Felicite Felice Foucher. Note: the death certificate lists his age as 48 years, and noted that he was a broker who resided at 4853 Magazine Street. The two are first cousins through their maternal relationship. Both are grandsons of Antoine Foucher and Marie Melicente Saulet. -----Original Message----- From: cmj@acsalaska.net [mailto:cmj@acsalaska.net] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:50 AM To: DEGRUY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Francois Verloin DeGruy information withdrawn from web site I just posted a photo of the Famille Francois deGruy tomb to the website. Agnes Verloin deGruy Perrin and her spouse Geroge D. Perrin are buried there, as are Francois III and Francois V. deGruy, II and Felicie Foucher. This confirms some of David's dates from this note. Celine ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. Hotard, Degruy List Administrator [Please do not send me anonymous, forwarded, chain emails. Thank you.]" <degruylist@earthlink.net> To: <DEGRUY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:44 AM Subject: Francois Verloin DeGruy information withdrawn from web site > Hi, > > Based on comments by Isabel I have removed the commentary I inserted on > the Degruy web site under the Death Certificate for François Verloin > DeGruy to read as follows: > "This is the death certificate of François Verloin Degruy who died 2 > October 1901 at the age of 62. It looks like he lived at 1129 Baronne > [did I spell Baronne right? Can't read the handwriting on record] > Street. Orleans Deaths Volume 125 Page 1138." > > The reason I have withdrawn that information is that we need to get some > confusions straightened out before information is placed on web site. > For example: > ---------------------- > Note on the web site that we have records for 2 different François > Degruys, one dying in 1900 and one dying in 1901. > We have to be sure we know who is who and which is which before we > insert additional information. > > ........ > Following is my transcription of some notes given to me by David..... > These notes are typed in a script style and David's handwriting is > superimposed over many of the names and dates in his effort to correct > them. I am not sure where the typed version came from, but I will ask > David next time I talk with him; however, a note on top says: "My Uncle > wrote this. He has his father dead before He married his mother. I did > it over. David".... now this may be David's "Uncle Frank," but I need to > verify. > Whoever he was this "Uncle" must have had something wrong with > typewriter because every time he writes "children", it comes out "childred" > > Again, I am submitting this to Degruy-L..... for discussion or for you > to check with your records, but not putting anything on the web site > until it is supported by "records" > > Page begins: > > > Verloin de Gruy > (Francois Verloin deGruy -- down to six generations -- to April 1966) > > [Francois: crossed out and Joseph inserted to read: > Joseph Verloin deGruy married Heloise Saulet. They had eleven [scratched > out to read 12] childred. [sic] > Their names were; Francois Verloin deGruy ["Jr" is scratched out] -- > married Felice Foucher. > > Emile, Theopile [sic], Jules, Camille, Enthime,Virginie, Estelle, > Clementine, Laure and Corinne. ()see Francois Verloin deGruy marriage to > Heloise Salet [Salet scratched out and Saulet inserted] herein for > linage [sic] of other ten] > > Francois Verloin deGruy ["Jr." scratched out], married Felice Foucher, > they had [looks like "ten" is scratched out and "Seven, 7" inserted > above] children. Died August 15, 1900 > Their names were; Alfred, James, George, Felicie, Julia and Francois III > [David writes in margin: 2 died; another note says "Francois II died > young."] > > Francois Verloin deGruy III married Alix Gaiennie [David inserts "his > cousin... and April 22, 1892"..(for their marriage date), they had four > children. [David's note: Frank died Aug. 15, 1900] > > Their names were: > [David inserts "Marie"] Estelle Verloin deGruy [David inserts Born > 1893...2/26/93] married to Eugene Johannan -- No childred [sic] [David > inserts: Estelle died Sun. Aug 30, 1931 - 38 years old] > > Irene [David inserts Francois] Verloin deGruy [David inserts 7/20/1895] > married to Raymond Junqua - 1 daughter Adoree > [David inserts: "Franloire" [difficult to read] Agnes Verloin deGruy > [David inserts "born 1/6/1897"] married to George D. Perrin - 4 childred > [sic]; Byron, Louise, Audrey and David. [David inserts: "Died May 11 or > 16 - hard to read - 1997 - 100 years old] > > Francois Verloin deGruy, IV [David inserted "IV" also"Born May 20, > 1899-1992] Married to Era M. Coney - 3 Childred [sic], Carol-Alix, > Francois V, David > ----------------------- > Francois Verloin deGruy IV [David inserts: "Old line in Mobile, Ala"] > married Era Coney. They had three childred; > > Carol Alix Verloin deGruy [david inserts Sep 24] married to John Winter > - 2 Childred, Carol Alix and John Winter Jr. > > Francois Verloin deGruy [David inserts: Aug 16] Married to Katherine > Collins - 4 childred, Francois 6th, Glenn, Kenneth and Michael > > David Verloin deGruy [David inserts Nov. 21] Married to Mildred Easley > - 1 child, David Jr. > ------------------- > > Carol Alix Verloin deGruy married John Winter [as of April 1966] > Their children are: > John Winter Jr Married to Susan Richardson [David inserts 3 x to her] > - 1 daughter Jamie > > Carol Alix Winter Unmarried (16 years old) [David scratechs out and > inserts "married 2x] > > --------- > Francois Verloin deGruy, the 5th, married to Katherine Collins > Their children are; > Francois Verloin deGruy, the 6th, unmarried, student > Glenn Verloin deGruy ... unmarried, student > Michael Verloin deGruy....unmarried > Kenneth Verloin deGruy.... unmarried, student > [David inserts: "All married now"] > ---------- > > David Verloin deGruy, married to Mildred Easley. One child > David Verloin deGruy, Jr, un married, student. [David inserts: "Not any > more. Married 2x"] > ---------------------------- > Then in handwriting at bottom of page David writes in dates for the > following folks. I am not including dates in case any are living; > probably not, but want to be safe]: > Marie Estelle Verloin deGruy; Irene Francois Verloin deGruy; Francois > Agnes Verloin deGruy; Francois Verloin de Gruy IV > > ------------------------ > There are several other typewritten papers like this.... too long for me > to transcribe here. I'll give first lines only > Virginie Verloin DeGruy married Jules Fazende.... > Corinne Verloin deGruy married Bruno Jaquet > Verloin deGruy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx