+ABOVE EVERYTHING+ (the 5 crusade involvement of the degruy chevalier made their templar/ shroud >history proufound<). ******************* (neighborhood templars) +IT IS INCREASINGLY CLEAR THAT THE SHROUD OF LIREY/TURIN ( lirey near >magny fouchard ) +WAS DEEPLY INVOLVED IN >deGRUY/TEMPLAR HISTORY< *************************** >ROUGEMONT FAMILY TEMPLARS< ( google the above ) 1) data on the rougemont website is strong corroberation to data that *********************************** >INCLUDES MANY TEMPLAR GRAND MASTERS IN THE EARLY HISTORY (geoffrey de charney) >OF THE SHROUD OF LIREY/TURIN IN THE CHAMPAGNE REGION (hubert de villersexel) >CLOSE TO MAGNY FOUCHARD deGRUY CHATEAU LOCUS ************************** (note: the following data is a view of shroud history expressed by the rougemont family.) ************************** +PONS DE LA ROCHE+ (templar grandmaster) >it was pons de la roche son othon de la roche who brought the (IN 1208) >shroud of lirey/turin from +CONSTANTINOPLE+ ****************** +CRUSADER KNIGHTS/BROTHERS+ >became templar/shroud brothers< THE GREATEST FRENCH KNIGHT (devirgy husband) +GEOFFREY de CHARNEY+ >became the shroud custodian< ******************************* +SEIGNEURS DE RAY+ >(i was rather amazed to find that othon de la roche's wife was +GERTRUDE de RAY+ OF A TEMPLAR FAMILY >(my ray family came from >scotland/england) ****************** >S Y N C H R O N I CI T Y< >there is a rougemont castle ruin >NEAR ESSEX ENGLAND< >there is also a rougemont village +EAST OF OUR GRUYERE+ ************************* +HUBERT de VILLERSEXEL+ >count de la roche< >ROUGEMOUNT< *************** +TEMPLAR GRAND MASTER+ >married the grandaughter of the >de charney / devirgy family< **************************** >AND GAINED OWNERSHIP OT THE (precious 14 foot, linen) +SHROUD OF LIREY / TURIN+ (google for current info) ************************ (LA ROCHE/deCHARNEY) >this rougemont / la roche castle is ( CASTLE MONTFORT ) >located due south of the degruy (NEAR MONTBARD) >family enclave/ magny fouchard. ********************************* (fontenotte church) >THE ROUGEMONT TEMPLAR CHURCH IS ILLUSTRATED >(templars considered themselves warrior +M O N K S+ ************* (shroud of turin) >IT WAS THE VILLERSEXEL/CHARNEY/ VIRGY FAMILY WHO TRADED THE (greatest trade in history) +HOLY SHROUD TO THE SAVOY (degruy relatives) >DUKES FOR TWO CASTLES *************************** +O V E R V I E W+ >note: it is quite possible that the >DEGRUY(ERE) BROKERED THIS +A M A Z I N G + T R A D E+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california