+BREAKING NEWS+ >note: turin shroud documentary on the discovery channel reveals the SCIENTISTS ARE AS BAFFLED BY THE SHROUD OF TURIN as everyone else is !!! ********************** >IT IS NOT A PAINTING ETC<,, >the scientists do not know how the image got on the linen cloth> ***************************** +ONE SCIENTIST SAID IT WAS MADE+ +BY A BURST OF RADIANT ENERGY +++++++++++++++++++++ >scientific evidence indicates the (ORIGINALLY 13th CENT.) >dating of the shroud was wrong. ********************************* >newer addition fabric thread +(SKEWED THE CARBON 14)+ *************************** >IT MAY VERY WELL DATE FROM THE CRUCIFICTION OF CHRIST ******************************* +CURRENT DISCOVERIES+ lirey/templar/turin ******************* 1) JEAN deVIRGY WIFE OF GEOFFREY de CHARNEY II, SHROUD OWNER, WAS (de gruyere ancestor) +GREAT (4) GRANDAUGHTER OF >OTHON de la ROCHE< >othon de la roche , duke of athens married to gertrude de ray, sent the shroud to pons de la roche DURING THE 4th CRUSADE +I N 1 4 O 4+ ************ >(gruyere count & knights were part of the french force ) ************************ 2) MARGUERITE deCHARNEY WIFE OF +HUMBERT de VILLERSEXEL AND (rougemount, la roche fam.) >granddaughter of geof. decharney INHERITED THE LIREY SHROUD (montfort castle chapel) >and traded it to savoy duke louis 1 of chambery for two castles. **************************** +SAVOY DUKE LOUS 1st WAS A DESCENDENT OF ST. LOUIS +KING OF FRANCE+ >marguerite decharney devillersexel WAS COUSIN OF THE WIFE OF +SAVOY DUKE LOUIS 1st+. ************************ +deGRUY(ERE) FAMILY+ +this history provides family ties to >THE HOUSE OF GRUY(ERE)< at several key points ********************* A) deVIRGY deCHARNEY B) SAVOY DUKE LOUIS 1st C) 4th CRUSADE D) KNIGHTS TEMPLAR E) LOCATION ( all of this occured within close distance of magny fouchard ) ***************************** >AND ON THE MAIN ROUTE TO PARIS FROM CHAMBERY & LATER FROM TURIN ******************** >for 34 years before the savoy dukes took over the shroud it was shown ************************************ >IN ST. HIPPOLYTE CHURCH OF THE COUNTS de VILLERSEXEL NEAR THEIR MOUNTFORT CASTLE ***************************** >this is the land of the dukes of >B U R G U N D Y< ********************* >THE HOUSE OF de VIRGY HAS A ( gruyere counts relatives) >LONG REGAL HISTORY HERE<. ***************************** +THALEMY CASTLE+ >in this region, where the last count MICHAEL deGRUYERE DIED IN +MARCH OF 1576+ +++++++++++ gene ray, san diego, california

Mr. Eugene, I have an old girlhood friend, who just moved back to New Iberia from New Orleans via Atlanta, Ga, and she is a direct descendant of Antoine Jean Baptiste Verloin Degruy, she told me that it was always said in the New Iberia Boutte/Degruy family that the Degruy family was related to Madame de Noailles, who was a very important persona at Versallies during the reign of King Louis 14th, her name is Anna Ross Mauldin Duval Twitchell and she attended Tulane University and earned her mater's degree in history from there. Her email is [email protected], you might enjoy sharing information with her as she is very interested in the family and has done extensive historical research. Wishing you and Miss Mary Anne a very Merry Christmas filled with much happiness and joy. Merry Christmas, kitty courts> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:06:02 +0000> Subject: [DEGRUY] SCIENTISTS BAFFLED/ carbon 14 dating was skewed by new fabric deGRUY/SAVOY SHROUD POINT OF CURRENT DISCOVERY, 12/08> > > +BREAKING NEWS+> >note: turin shroud documentary on> the discovery channel reveals the> SCIENTISTS ARE AS BAFFLED> BY THE SHROUD OF TURIN> as everyone else is !!!> **********************> >IT IS NOT A PAINTING ETC<,, > >the scientists do not know how the > image got on the linen cloth>> *****************************> +ONE SCIENTIST SAID IT WAS MADE+> +BY A BURST OF RADIANT ENERGY> +++++++++++++++++++++ > >scientific evidence indicates the> (ORIGINALLY 13th CENT.)> >dating of the shroud was wrong.> *********************************> >newer addition fabric thread> +(SKEWED THE CARBON 14)+> ***************************> > >IT MAY VERY WELL DATE FROM> THE CRUCIFICTION OF CHRIST> *******************************> > +CURRENT DISCOVERIES+> lirey/templar/turin> *******************> 1) JEAN deVIRGY WIFE OF GEOFFREY de> CHARNEY II, SHROUD OWNER, WAS> (de gruyere ancestor)> +GREAT (4) GRANDAUGHTER OF> >OTHON de la ROCHE<> >othon de la roche , duke of athens> married to gertrude de ray, sent> the shroud to pons de la roche> DURING THE 4th CRUSADE> +I N 1 4 O 4+> ************> >(gruyere count & knights were> part of the french force )> ************************> > 2) MARGUERITE deCHARNEY WIFE OF > +HUMBERT de VILLERSEXEL AND> (rougemount, la roche fam.)> >granddaughter of geof. decharney> INHERITED THE LIREY SHROUD> (montfort castle chapel) > >and traded it to savoy duke louis 1> of chambery for two castles.> ****************************> > +SAVOY DUKE LOUS 1st WAS A > DESCENDENT OF ST. LOUIS> +KING OF FRANCE+> >marguerite decharney devillersexel> WAS COUSIN OF THE WIFE OF> +SAVOY DUKE LOUIS 1st+.> ************************> > +deGRUY(ERE) FAMILY+> +this history provides family ties to> >THE HOUSE OF GRUY(ERE)<> at several key points> *********************> A) deVIRGY deCHARNEY> B) SAVOY DUKE LOUIS 1st> C) 4th CRUSADE> D) KNIGHTS TEMPLAR > E) LOCATION> > ( all of this occured within close> distance of magny fouchard )> *****************************> >AND ON THE MAIN ROUTE TO> PARIS FROM CHAMBERY &> LATER FROM TURIN> ********************> > >for 34 years before the savoy dukes> took over the shroud it was shown> ************************************> >IN ST. HIPPOLYTE CHURCH OF THE> COUNTS de VILLERSEXEL NEAR> THEIR MOUNTFORT CASTLE > *****************************> > >this is the land of the dukes of> >B U R G U N D Y<> *********************> >THE HOUSE OF de VIRGY HAS A> ( gruyere counts relatives)> >LONG REGAL HISTORY HERE<.> *****************************> +THALEMY CASTLE+> >in this region, where the last count> MICHAEL deGRUYERE DIED IN> +MARCH OF 1576+> +++++++++++> > gene ray, san diego, california > > The productivity of our Degruy list depends upon generosity in sharing family research. This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact." All data should be verified. > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Suspicious message? There’s an alert for that. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad2_122008