+BREAKING NEWS+ >in the process of researching this message i discovered that... +P O T H E M O N T+ (not pottemont) >is the name of edme degruy's co. of 100 mounted chevalier. >AND ONE PRESUMES HIS CHATEAU NAME ^^^^^^^^^^ +LORD OF POTHEMONT+ >(was his title)< ^^^^^^^^ >although his sponser +ANNE de MONTEMORENCY'S+ chateau +VENDEUVRE-SUR-BARSE+ (next to magny fouchard) +IS ASSOCIATED IN THE+ +WEB LISTINGS+ (shall investigate this) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ +THE VILLAGE OF LIREY+ >setting of the small church where THE HOLY SHROUD (lirey/turin) >WAS FIRST ENSHRINED IN FRANCE >can be found on a large scale map 10 KM SOUTH OF TROYES ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >in preparation for our pilgrimage i am researching the history of >THE PLACE TIME AND PEOPLE AROUND THIS AMAZING +MANIFESTATIONS+ +REVELATION+ >in perspective one concludes that OUR VERLOING & VILLENEUVE FAMILIES WERE PRESENT (1st shroud presentation) >IN 1356 WHEN LIREY CHAPEL WAS BUILT ^^^^^^^^^^^^ +BOND OF BLOOD+ >it may be important to consider that the advent of the shroud +SAVOY OWNERSHIP+ >was aided by the fact that the +deCHARNY, deVIRGY, dela ROCHE+ (the core "shroud mafia" families) +WERE INTERMARRIED WITH THE+ (see picnett & prince) +HOUSE OF SAVOY DUKES+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >AS OF COURSE WAS OUR< >COUNT MICHAEL deGRUYERE< >AND KING FRANCOIS 1st< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >this dynamic may explain the degruy settlement in this +AMAZING PLACE+ >(picknett & prince envisioned a >family conspiracy,.. read their turin shroud book) +MONT-SAINT-JEAN+ (google) >is a town in burgundy near montbard (SOUTH OF MAGNY FOUCHARD) +(note: mont-saint-jean is >another name for decharny) +(dela ROCHE-deVIRGY CASTLE)+ +WHERE THE SHROUD WAS BROUGHT AFTER IT LEFT LIREY, BEFORE THE SAVOY DUKES BOUGHT IT +SLEEP IN THEIR BED+ >note: after decharny died his devirgy widow married dela ROCHE-VILLER (holy shroud dowery) >SEXEL and their chateau is now A HOTEL @ MONT-SAINT-JEAN FRANCE, (GOOGLE FOR PHOTOS) (of the hotel & ancient castle) gene ray, san diego, california