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    1. [DEGRUY] MONTEYNARD in gruyere & also in champagne is another tie of VERLOIN deGRUY to COUNTS OF GRUYERE/ BOUTTEVILLE may be source of BOUTTE family name / CHOISEUL-CROZAT tropic force
    2. Eugene Ray
    3. >ETIENNE FRANCOIS de CHOISEUL COUNT de STAINVILLE (king louis xv prime minister) was also +MARQUIS de MONTEYNARD+ >which becomes an important tie >BETWEEN de CHOISEUL (primary castle s.w. of reims >now an elegent hotel) and the +COUNTS OF GRUYERE+ because the wife of +COUNT JEAN II de GRUYERE+ (1514 - 1539) was +CATHERINE de MONTEYNARD+ >of the ancient house of +MONTEYNARD+ >located in the french savoy +NEAR GRENOBLE+ (lake monteynard) +deGRUYERE/deMONTEYNARD+ note: there is an illustration of the arms of catherine de monteynard as the +COUNTESS OF GRUYERE+ >in the magnificent book on gruyere of the journal +PATRIMOINE FRIBOURGEOIS+ # 16, december 2005 +deCHOISEUL FACTS+ > i believe it important to point (NEW ORLEANS TIES) >out some french colonial facts about +DUKE deCHOISEUL+ +MARQUIS deMONTENYARD+ 1) his wife was of the house of +C R O Z A T+ (merchant czar @ louisiana for 15 years from 1712) +DE CHOISEUL+ 2) was the force behind the +FRENCH COLONIES+ A) FRENCH PACIFIC ISLANDS (solomon islands etc). B) FRENCH WEST INDIES (santo domingo etc. etc. >crozat street, new orleans) >de CHOISEUL MAY HAVE HAD A GREAT INFLUENCE ON +antoine jean baptiste valentin verloin degruy >THE CHOISEUL/CROZAT FAMILY HAD MADE A FORTUNE IN >TROPICAL INVESTMENT >(the sugar industry in france is still in champagne region) +NAME SYMPLIFICATION+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >GRUE = GRUY >GRUYERE = GRUY ERE >yesterday while studying the website for the village of gruyere i noticed the name constructed +GRUY ERE+ rather then +GRUYERE+ >immediately i realised the process of streamlining was very old. +BOUTTEVILLE = BOUTTE+ >in the same light it occurs to me that the name of the degruy relative +BOUTTE+ >may very well; be derived from +BOUTTEVILLE+ as in +FRANCOIS de MONTMORENCY+ seigneur de +BOUTTEVILLE+ +BOUTTEVILLE / BOUTTECOURT+ (towns in france) gene ray, san diego, california

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