Hi, My October issue of New Orleans Genesis just came - in time for November. Anyway there is an article in it entitled: "Ball of Confusion: Celestin Glapion and the Glapion Family of Louisiana" submitted by Barbara Trevigne. [This is a very long article, abt. 21 pages.. so we can only pick out a few items.. There are several mentions of Degruys: Mrs. Pierre Verloin de Gruy, Verloin de Gruis. Confusing to me are the names associated with the Glapions which seem reminiscent of some of the names associated with the Degruys. Wonder if there is anyone out there who understands this enough to explain it to me. [I should call David.....] Anyway, what do you think of this.... some names/titles listed affiliated with Glapion: page 304: Charles de Glapion, Sieur du Mesnil "According to Stanley C. Arthur's, "Old Families of Louisiana," the first Glapions to appear in the early eighteenth century in Louisiana were brothers; Chevalier Christophe de Glapion, Sieur du Mesnilgauches, who was born circa, 1741, and Charles de Glapion, Sieur du Mesnil. Their parents Charles, Seigneur du Mesnilgauches, and Jeanne Thiboust, were from the French parish of Saint Scholastique in Normandy. Both brothers were distinguished French colonial officers. The family surname was shortened and later appeared as Duminil, Duminy de Glapion, and finally as Glapion...." In the next paragraph they mention "Christobal de Glapion whose son, Louis Christophe Duminy de Glapion, cohabitated with the Widow Paris, Marie Laveaux." On the next page "On 31 January 1785, Christobal de Glapion married Jeanne Sophie LaLande Ferrier. Christobal and Jeanne Sophie produced twelve children. Sacramental records identify their children as Jeanne "Juana" Coulon Glapion, [Mrs. Pierre Verloin de Gruy].... [not giving all the rest but that name repeats in various forms "Elizabeth Hortense Dummini Glapion [Mrs Thomas Casey]..... Ysabel Duminy de Glapion... Next paragraph: [pg 305] "On 15 November 1801, an agreement between the Chevalier Christophe de Glapion and his son Christobal Dumini de Glapion, contracted in the presence of Joseph Delhome and Verloin de Gruis, formed a partnership for the purpose of growing sugar cane. However, Christobal Dumini de Glapion did not live long enough to reap the finanacial succes sugar produced; he was buried 10 September 1804." The top of the next page [pg 306] continues the similarities... with one possible typo... In all probability when the senior Christobal de Glapion was buried at age thirty-nine in St. Louis Cemetery No. One, Jeanne Sophia Lalande Ferrier and her children were already living in New Orleans. By 1817, the family was living in Faubourg Treme' number 25 Hospital Street. That address is currently the 1100 block of Governor Nicholas. The Widow Glapion, Jeanne Sophie Lalande Ferrier remained in Treme' until her death at eighty on January 27, 1835. Her surviving son, Christophe de Glapion, served as executor of her estate. Other heirs included her daughters, Heloise Glapion Durel; Arthemise Glapion Tricou; Hortense Glapion; Mme. Andry and Debuys [Renee: think that should be DeGruys?] by representation of their mother Sophie Glapion; and Madame DeGruy and Brandon by representation of their mother Jeanne Coulon Glapion." And one line of the following paragraph: "...or Louise Darcental whose spouse was Louis Foucher." That's about all we can deal with in this email.... but I just wonder about the Sieur du Mesnil and the Duminy and Dumenil. What is the significance? Is it simply that they came from some of the same areas of France as our DeGruys? BTW, to focus on that "Madame DeGruy and Brandon": Pierre Verloin DeGruy[sometimes Dumini, Dumenil, DuFouchard] [son of Joseph Verloin DeGruy and Marianne Couturier] was married first to Jeanne de Glapion and when she died in 1805, he remarrried to Marie Francoise Daspit St. Amand. One of their children Pierre Huxelle [P H] Degruys Verloin married first Julie Eveline Boutte and then Marie Cecilia Cunningham. And this Marie Cecelia first was married to Paul Antoine Brandon, son of Robert Robelard Brandon and Jeanne Zulme' DuFouchard Verloin DeGruy [who was the daughter of Pierre verloin DeGruy and Jeanne de Glapion So you get an idea of how intertwined and confusing it all is. Actually it's rather exhausting and so..... I'm signing off. Welcome to anyone who can make it all more understandable! R