Fabulous! Thank You, Helen!!! LESTER KENDRICK wrote: > Green Fields: Two Hundred Years of Louisiana Sugar, pages 69 and 70 > Verloin Degruise-West Bank of the Mississippi River near New Orleans, La. > > "C. C. Robin, whose Voyages dans l'Interieur de la Louisiane ..was published in > Paris in 1807, gives an interesting account of the development of the sugar > industry in Louisiana. He states that in 1802 there were seventy-five sugar > plantations and a number of sugar refineries and describes the design and > construction of Verloin de Gruy (de Gruise)'s circular sugar mill, which was > probably located on the plantation that the 1834 Zimpel map shows on the west > bank of the river and that John H. B. Latrobe sketched in the same year. > > 'All construction work is done by the Negroes on the Plantation and it must > be admitted that some of the Louisianans show much intelligence in this work. > Here is a remarkable example: The San Domingan who directed the contruction of > the first sugar houses built the grinding mill in a hexagonal or octagonal > form. A Creole names, DeGruise, a descendant of one of the French officers who > came out at the founding of the colony, without instruction, but by native > ability, found that an angular edifice was both displeasing to the eye and > wastful of material, but circular construction was too difficult for the local > colonial laborers. M. de Gruise had heard of la Halle in Paris (the central > market of Parish now known as Les Halles) and from descriptons of it, he had > built in brick two leagues from the city, on his house, a rotunda so like it, > that on seeing it I expressed astonishment. I was even more astounded upon > learning how M. de Gruise had conceived and executed the work.' > > In his journal Latrobe describes the visit to a sugar plantation about two > miles above New Orleans, at which time he had "an opportunity of learning > something of the manufacture of this article." He states that "the mill that I > have drawn in my sketch book ... is one of the old-fashioned ones, and I should > judge from its appearance that it had been erected some fifty or sixty years ago > - It was originally intended for horse power in grinding the cane. Steam has > been introduced now, and the buildings put up since are very different in their > appearance from the one which I have drawn. Latrobe's pencil sketch shows a > circular domed structure that may well be the one mentioned by C.C. Robin some > thirty years before." > >

Mrs. Balthazar Saulet The mortal remains of Mrs. Balthazar Saulet, nee Clementine Fortier, were laid to rest in the family tomb in the old St. Louis Cemetery last Sunday. Mrs. Saulet was a Creole lady of the old school, and had attained the age of 86 years. Up to her last illness, which began a few months ago, she possessed all her faculties. Noble-hearted, affectionate and kind, she was beloved by all, and friends united with sorrowing relatives in shedding heartfelt tears over her grave. She leaves two sons-Alfred and Philothee-and four daughters-Noemi, wife of Mr. Manuel Garcia; Blanche, wife of Rob't C. Huston; Azelie, widow of Dr. J. P. Barbot, and Leona, wife of Mr. Leonce M. Soniat, a prominent planter of Iberville parish. Daily Picayune Newspaper, New Orleans, La. November 4, 1890; p4; c4 Helen

Marie Telzire Saulet was the daughter of Balthazar Saulet and Clementine Fortier. Balthazar was the son of (Francois) Thomas Saulet and Marie Therese Genevieve Pery. Balthazar was the brother of (Marie) Elizabeth (Louise) Heloise Saulet who married (Francois) Joseph Verloin DeGruy I (II) Decedee hier soir, a l'age de 24 ans, Mlle. Marie Telzire Saulet, fille de Balthazar Saulet et de Clementine Norbert Fortier. Les amis et connaissances sont pries d'assister sans autre invitation, aux funerailles, qui partiront de la rue des Dryades, pres Erato, cette apres midi a 4 heures. Died: April 30, 1851, age 24 New Orleans Bee Newspaper, New Orleans, La. May 1, 1851, p1, c3 Does anyone know where the Norbert come into Clementine Fortier's name? Helen

Daughter of (Pierre) Denis DeCirce Foucher and (Della Marie) Coralie Verloin DeGruy Foucher-On May 3, 1886, at 7 o'clock P.M., Miss Idea Foucher, a native of New Orleans. Friends and acquaintances of the D. Foucher, [-] Bieuvenue, Jr., and DeGruy families, are respectfully invited to attend her funeral to take place from her residence, No. 344 Bourbon street, This (Tuesday) Evening, at 5 o'clock. Daily Picayune Newspaper, New Orleans, La. May 4, 1886; p4; c6 Note: [-] I could not read this letter Tuesday was May 4, 1886 Helen

(Sebastien) Francois (Angel) Moriere Fazende Fazende-On Sunday, August 20th, 1876, Francois Fazende, aged 82 years, a native of Louisiana. Daily Picayune Newspaper, New Orleans, La. August 27, 1876, p8, c3 Helen

Widow (Marie) Felicite Estelle Verloin DeGruy married to the late (Sebastien) Francois (Angel) Moriere Fazende-She was his second wife She was the daughter of (Francois) Joseph Verloin DeGruy I (II) and (Marie) Elizabeth (Louise) Heloise Saulet Fazende-Deceased, deimache, 31 decembre 1883, a 11 heures du matin, a l'age de 63 ans, Vve Francois Fazende, nee DeGruy, native de la Louisiana. Les amis et connaissances de la famille sont respectueusement invites a assister a ses funeral'lles qui auront lieu ce matin, a 10 heures.  Le convoi funebre partria de sa derniere residence, au coin des rues Cadix et Chestnut, 6me District. New Orleans Bee Newspaper, New Orleans, La. January 1, 1884, p1, c4 Helen

Son of (Sebastien) Francois (Angel) Moriere Fazende and (Marie) Josephine Mathilda Harang (1st wife) Louis Francois Fazende Fazende-On Wednesday, June 17, 1885, at 7 1/2 o'clock A.M., Louis F. Fazende, aged 63 years, a native of New Orleans. The friends and acquaintances of his family are respectfully invited to attend the funeral, which will take place from his late residence No. 46- St. Charles, at 10 o'clock A.M., This Day (Thursday), June 18, 1885 Note: Number after 46 was unreadable Daily Picayune Newspaper, New Orleans, La. June 18, 1885; p4; c6 Helen

Scott, One of the obits had the Supermarket mispelled-his. Her obit had the Supermarket spelled as you have it. Helen ________________________________ From: Scott Pelitire <spelitir@cox.net> To: degruy@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 9:29:11 PM Subject: Re: [DEGRUY] Boutte Obit Helen, Can you give me some information on Caballino's Supermarket?  I've never heard of it.  I grew up near a convieniene store owned by the Cavallino's, but it was called the "Handy Pack", located on 21'st street in Kenner. Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "LESTER KENDRICK" <lhkendri@bellsouth.net> To: <DeGruy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 9:20 PM Subject: [DEGRUY] Boutte Obit Helen K Note: Cavallino Super Market (hers) Caballino Super Market (his) This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact."  All data should be verified. Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact."  All data should be verified. Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Scott, I have Doralice married to Francois Vileor DeVince Bienvenu 25 January 1834 in New Orleans, La. Helen

Boutte-Of 326 Maryland Drive, Kenner, La., on Saturday, November 15, 1952, at 5:20 o'clock p.m., Glennie Frances Belle, wife of Earl B. Boutte; mother of Mrs. Martin Pelitire, Mrs. Wilson Duplantis, Mrs. Pete Brock; sister of Mrs. Irene Delavaliade of New Orleans, La., Mrs. Helena St. Pierre, Norman Belle and Mrs. Anna Alexander of Lutcher, La., also survived by eight grandchildren. Relatives and friends of the family, also employes of East Jefferson Waterworks, Great Southern Box Company and Cavallino Super Market, are invited to attend the funeral from the home of Tharp-Sontheimer-Tharp, Inc., 4127 South Claiborne avenue near Milan street on Monday morning, November 17, 1952, at 8:30 o'clock followed by requiem mass at Our Lady of Perpetual Help church, Kenner, La. Interment in Greenwood cemetery. Times Picayune Newspaper, New Orleans, La. November 17, 1952; p2; c5 Helen K Note: Cavallino Super Market (hers)          Caballino Super Market (his)

(Marie Rosalie) Doralice DuFouchard Verloin and her second husband Francois Philemon Boutte their child: Delphine Boutte married John L. Boutte their child: Earl Benjamin Boutte married Glennie Francis Belle Corrections welcome.. Boutte-Of 326 Maryland Drive, Kenner, La., on Sunday, November 23, 1952, at 5:10 o'clock p.m., Earl Benjamin Boutte, husband of the late Glennie Francis Bell; aged 61 years; father of Mrs. Mildred Pelitire, Mrs. Glennie Duplantis and Mrs. Elsie Brock; brother of Mrs. J. B. Wilkinson of New Orleans, La., Mrs. George B . Williamson of Reserve, La., and Mrs. Joseph Rossi of Gramercy, La, Edward W. Boutte of New Orleans, La., Percy J. Boutte of Gramercy, La., the late Mrs. Delphine Bienvenu, Fernand and Ellis Boutte; also survived by eight grandchildren. Relatives and friends of the family also employes of East Jefferson Waterworks, Great Southern Box Company and Caballino Super Market are invited to attend the funeral from the home of Tharp-Sontheimer-Tharp, Inc., 4127 South Claiborne avenue near Milan street on Tuesday morning, November 25, 1952, at 8:30 o'clock, followed by requiem mass at Our Lady of Perpetual Help church, Kenner, La. Interment in Greenwood cemetery. Times Picayune Newspaper, New Orleans, La. November 24, 1952; p2, c6 Helen K

Green Fields: Two Hundred Years of Louisiana Sugar, pages 69 and 70 Verloin Degruise-West Bank of the Mississippi River near New Orleans, La. "C. C. Robin, whose Voyages dans l'Interieur de la Louisiane ..was published in Paris in 1807, gives an interesting account of the development of the sugar industry in Louisiana.  He states that in 1802 there were seventy-five sugar plantations and a number of sugar refineries and describes the design and construction of Verloin de Gruy (de Gruise)'s circular sugar mill, which was probably located on the plantation that the 1834 Zimpel map shows on the west bank of the river and that John H. B. Latrobe sketched in the same year.      'All construction work is done by the Negroes on the Plantation and it must be admitted that some of the Louisianans show much intelligence in this work. Here is a remarkable example: The San Domingan who directed the contruction of the first sugar houses built the grinding mill in a hexagonal or octagonal form.  A Creole names, DeGruise, a descendant of one of the French officers who came out at the founding of the colony, without instruction, but by native ability, found that an angular edifice was both displeasing to the eye and wastful of material, but circular construction was too difficult for the local colonial laborers.  M. de Gruise had heard of la Halle in Paris (the central market of Parish now known as Les Halles) and from descriptons of it, he had built in brick two leagues from the city, on his house, a rotunda so like it, that on seeing it I expressed astonishment.  I was even more astounded upon learning how M. de Gruise had conceived and executed the work.'      In his journal Latrobe describes the visit to a sugar plantation about two miles above New Orleans, at which time he had "an opportunity of learning something of the manufacture of this article."  He states that "the mill that I have drawn in my sketch book ... is one of the old-fashioned ones, and I should judge from its appearance that it had been erected some fifty or sixty years ago - It was originally intended for horse power in grinding the cane. Steam has been introduced now, and the buildings put up since are very different in their appearance from the one which I have drawn. Latrobe's pencil sketch shows a circular domed structure that may well be the one mentioned by C.C. Robin some thirty years before." Helen Kendrick

+RADIANT CREOLE ART MIRACLE+ (transcendent manifestations) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FRENCH CREOLE PLANTATION+ >as an archtype can be a place where >creativity and scholarship thrive< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +PLANTATION MAGIC+ >as i was describing the marvelous sound, yesterday. of rain on +ELEPHANT EAR PLANTS+ >at melrose plantation a memory of my first visit w/ francois mignon +TRANSCENDENT+ >there in the mid nineteen sixties< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >CAME TO MIND WHEN FRANCOIS WAS KIND ENOUGH TO SHOW ME HIS (transcendent manifestation) +PLANTATION "PIECE DE RESISTANCE"+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(the place was filled with much art many by the great clementine >hunter who was the cook<) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MELROSE MIRACLE+ >francoise unlocked the door to a chapel +SURROUNDED BY GIANT+ +TROPICAL PLANTS+ >he had built for the darkest african +DRYING GOURDS HANGING+ >people off his back brick veranda. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(with its punkah fan and >clementine hunter quilt) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ST. MARTIN de PORRES AND HIS+ +DRYING BANANA'S CHAPEL+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >elsa schiaperelli would, as i, that day have been transfixed w/ the scene. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CREOLE TROPIC SURREALISM+ >in the darkened white washed chapel was a large magnificent statue of st. martin +LIT BY STAINED GL WINDOW+ >de porres and above his head from the rafters hung several bunches +OF RIPENING BANANAS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +UNFORGETABLE TABLEAU+ (tropique/magique/metaphysique) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >i have seen many art installations in my time and constructed quite a few but +THIS MISE-EN-SCENE WAS THE+ +ALL TIME CHAMPION+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CREOLE SYNERGY AT ITS BEST+ >(cammie garret henry and lyle saxon should be thanked for bringing +FRENCH VISION+ >francois to sleepy melrose) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FRANCOIS MIGNON DESIGN+ >this miraculous scene was heightened by the remote setting of melrose >with its magnificent garden< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +SEARCH FOR SACRED SEEDS+ >marianne and i go to los angeles< this a.m. for a couple days for +BEVERLY HILLS SAFARI+ >our wedding anniversary< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +POETRY ALWAYS A PRIORITY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

+ PAMPLUME=PAMPLOMA+ >our kings of navarre-valois-pamplume >heritage flared today w/ the< +RUNNING OF THE BULLS+ >(read hemingway)< +AT PAMPLOMA+ >via international television< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FRIENDS IN THE NIGHT+ >it is always nourishing to recieve mail that responds to my midnight posts +MARY LYNN NOW IN NOLA+ (tulane & family activity) >as mary lynn so kindly calls them +"MIDNIGHT MUSINGS"+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +JEANNE CAVAROC RYAN+ >has been v. thoughtful sending several +CAVAROC-ROY-STAIGG REFS+ >containing names of my grandmother amalie cavarioc-roy staiggs siblings and news of the viosca-staiggs. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +PERCY VIOSCA+ >the famous louisiana naturalist, was married into my (cavaroc)-staigg grandfather's nola family... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CORRINE STAIGG VIOSCA+ (who i sadly never met) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +JEANNE & PROFESSOR TOM COX+ >(emeritus of san diego state u. >now visiting in france) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >HAVE SENT RESPONSES TO MY PIECE REGARDING THE PINK HUE OF AN (much enthusiasm) +EXCITED NYMPHET'S THIGH+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +"CENIZAS DE ROSA"+ >professor cox tells us is a very aesthetic shade of spanish rose-pink especially rewarding w/ its soft prononciation. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +"SHOCKING PINK"+ >was jeanne's contribution from her +BONWIT TELLER HATS+ +GLOVES (THE WORKS)+ >college days avoiding the stares of +SHOCKED NUNS+ ^^^^^^^^^^ >i hope it wasn't pink strapless evening dress ! (i almost typed topless but that will be found in old france.) +OH , SAN TROPEZ+ >your innocent correspondent< >"shocked" as claude raines said< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >+"SCHIAPARELLI"+< >was the shocking color jeanne sent to me from her "higher learning" days that struck a bright memory. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MARIANNE THINKS IT WAS PURPLE" >(m. was in a sacred heart school in the san francisco 1950s a +LIKE NEWCOMBE+ >very old california milieu< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ELSA SCHIAPARELLI+ (google for info) ^^^^^^^^^ >was an italian clothing design genius with a famous couture house in +LA BELLE PARIS+ >she was "over the top" great with a +FLARE FOR SURREALISM+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +LOBSTERS GALORE+ >like salvador dali, schiaparelli had a thing for lobsters on her clothes. +(LOBSTERS IN RED PRINTS)+ >(thats prints not pants) >although< >DALI LIKED THE ACTUAL< +LOBSTER ARTISTICLY DISCRETE+) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(yes, the nuns averted their eyes +"SCHIAPARELLISED"+ >as jeanne left for the evening) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +I MYSELF WAS CONSIDERED+ (coeds via windows) +"PERSONA NON GRATA"+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(changing the subject)< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +SOUND AS A FACTOR OF LIFE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >professor cox's reference to the soft +PENINSULA SOUND OF SPAIN+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >reminds me of a sound very dear to the heart of our creole memory ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +RAIN-ON-ELEPHANT-EAR-PLANTS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >it was francois mignon the talented +ARTIST-SCHOLAR+ >french plantation curator at our< +MELROSE PLANTATION+ >in the 1950s-1970s period who wrote a very insightful column for the >natchitoches newspaper titled< +"PLANTATION MEMO"+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >now collected in a book by that name that i have retrieved from storage, >that describes the rain sound on +GIANT ELEPHANT EARS+ (french tropic syndrome) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CREOLE GENETIC MEMORY+ >of the< +HIGHEST ORDER+ ^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

+JEFFERSON-DEGRUY-LATROBE+ >thomas jefferson< >jean baptiste valentin degruy< >benjamin henry latrobe< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ALL SAW & BECAME ENAMORED OF+ (>composed if short wood planks >a very visionary system<) +THE 129 FT. WOOD DOME IN PARIS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +HALLE AUX (BLEDS) BLE+ (grain market/le halle) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >built by legrand and molynos after a (CONSTRUCTED IN 1783) >16th c. concept by philip delorme >the famous french architect< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +SYNCHRONISTICALLY+ >it was under this dome that jefferson had a romantic rendesvous with +MARIA COSWORTH+ >his famous lost english lover< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >it was under this dome that our famed +VERLOIN DEGRUY DOME+ >energetic ancestor j.g.v. degruy was inspired to build the unique round +DEGRUY BROS. SUGAR MILL+ >(see "voyage to louisiana" >by c.c. robin, (paris)) ^^^^^^^^^^^ >it was under this dome that b.h.latrobe became inspired to program the +NATIONAL CAPITOL DOME+ >(bullfinch built later a >double dome shell) ^^^^^^^^^^^ >and advise jefferson & degruy domes (JEFFERSON LITERATURE) >is a very well documented view< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +(LATROBE'S 2 SKETCHES+ >convincing evidence< +OF THE DEGRUY MILL)+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(t.h.n.o.c archive document)< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FIRST POLYTECHNIC COURSE IN U.S.+ >was at the west point military< >academy designed by latrobe< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +GENETIC MEMORY+ >quite appropriately it was in less then 200 years later that geodesic domes +1969-1996+ >became a mainstay of my design teaching at san diego state u. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +THE MODERN CALIF, BUNGALOW+ affordable, hurricane/earthquake proof housing of our time. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ONE OF MY STUDENTS WAS ON+ >"on the road" program< >w/ charle currault< +NATIONAL TELEVISION W/ HER+ +GEODESIC DOME HOUSE+ (designed in my class) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +"SMALL WORLD"+ ^^^^^^^^^ >it must be remembered that our +VERLOIN-DEGRUY ANCESTORS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >were crusader/knights templar people that belonged to the famous french +GRAND-ORIENT MASON LODGE+ (orient park e. of troyes, france) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +LATER HEADED BY LOUIS PHILIPPE+ >(who was degruy/foucher guest >when they built the mill dome< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (verloin-degruy heritage) +DEVOTED TO DOME MASONRY AS+ (jerusalem dome inspired) +PART OF ST. BERNARD'S VISION+ >(their spiritual teacher/leader >clairvaux monastery< +FATHER OF CATHEDRALS+) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

+INDEPENDENCE DAY 2010+ >(leads to an amazing discovery< >viz a viz masonic influence) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +JEFFERSON & DEGRUY DOMES+ >monticello/new orleans< +ARE OF VERY SIMILAR DESIGN+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ROCKET'S REVELATION+ >last nights television coverage of the washington d.c. fireworks gave me +FREEMASON VISION+ >of the many famous monuments +JEFFERSON-LAFAYETTE+ +(louis philippe tie)+ >and their new orleans links<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +OVERVIEW+ ^^^^^^ +MARQUIS de LAFAYETTE+ >as i have explained was deep in< >freemason theory when he bought a +NOAILLES WEALTH+ >ship to take him to his destiny as a +REVOLUTIONARY WAR HERO+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +NEW ORLEANS LINKS+ >were strong via his noailles wife and he +NOAILLES-DEGRUY LINKS+ >accepted gifts of our degruy extended +FOUCHER-CIRCE & SAULET+ >family properties in the garden district +SYNCHRONISTIC ENERGY+ >brokered by armond duplantier< +MASONIC SECRETS+ +host of amazing prince murat+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +THOMAS JEFFERSON+ >(jefferson-lafayette genius synergy) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >was his friend from virginia days that promoted this land gift in congress. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +JEFFERSON LOVED FRANCE+ >and soaked up french philosophy +ART, ARCHITECTURE & CULTURE+ +1784-1789+ >during 5 intense years in france< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(he haunted the french bookshops +ESOTERIC STUDIES+ >and exhausted archives & libraries) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >JEFFERSON SHIPPED 86 CRATES TO< >arts and french goods< +MONTICELLO FROM FRANCE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +VISIONARY MISE-EN-SCENE+ >(the noailles/sevigne salons in paris w/ benjamin franklins scientific friends +DEMOCRATIC-MASONIC+ >and louis philippe political links >opened many vital doors<) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FREEMASON THEORY+ >was strong in all this history not only with lafayette but also w/our leaders... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +GEORGE WASHINGTON+ +BENJAMIN FRANKLIN+ >and several other founding fathers who posed for portraits in their +FREEMASON ATTIRE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ +LATROBE (MASONIC) ARCHITECTS+ >(first in masonic washington and +TEMPLAR ROOTS+ >later in masonic new orleans) and +LOUIS PHILIPPE deORLEANS+ (future king of france) >who very importantly was the head of the french >freemasons< and was in ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +NEW ORLEANS WHEN THE DEGRUY+ +BROTHERS BUILT THEIR DOMED+ (see latrobe sketches) +MASONIC SUGAR MILL+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >this 1789-1790 date was also when (FRENCH REVOLUTION) >thomas jefferson returned from france with his 86 crates of +FRENCH CULTURE+ ^^^^^^^^^^ +AND PROCEEDED TO DOUBLE THE+ (adding the masonic dome) +SIZE OF BEAUTIFUL MONTICELLO+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +PROFOUND DISCOVERY+ >note: i have just discovered that both jefferson and the degruy brothers +MEAL MARKET DOME+ >(halle aux bleds)< >used the design of the dome at "les halles" in paris as their +DOME ARCHTYPE+ ^^^^^^^^^^ +JEFFERSON vs DEGRUY+ >(comparing data from the c.c. robin ("VOYAGE TO LOUISIANA") >book's description of the degruy dome w/ the monticello guide... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >THEY WERE BOTH CONSTRUCTED IN AN ADVANCED METHOD OF USE (templar/mason technique) +OF MANY SMALL WOOD PARTS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +DEEP GENETIC MEMORY+ >(this is similar to the lamella concept i used for the vaulted roof of my house +6 FOOT LONG LAMELLAS+ >in lajolla and the geodesic domes of the eastern seaboard's bucky fuller) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +TEMPLAR TRADITION+ >the masonic techniques in the jefferson and degruy brother's domes may >very well be traced to the< +LATROBE ARCHITECTS+ (father and son) ^^^^^^^^ +WITH DEGRUY TEMPLAR HISTORY+ +PLAYING A VITAL HISTORICAL ROLE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >latrobe (the father) spent several years >of his youth training in france< +HOTBED OF TEMPLAR THEORY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego , california

+HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >it is w/ some awareness of a +JOHN RAY HERITAGE+ >(so very american)< ^^^^^^^^^^ >that i pen this 4th of july piece< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 1) THOMAS JEFFERSON'S mother was jane randolph of the famous virginia +RANDOLPH FAMILY+ >john ray's heritage in virginia was descended from this same +RANDOLPH FAMILY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2) JOHN RAY sided w/ abraham lincoln during the civil war and was 1 of 7 la. state legisators to vote +AGAINST SUCCESSION+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ABRAHAM LINCOLN+ >and jonn ray were friends, both were >(AVAILABLE FROM THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS) >photographed by mathew brady< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +JOHN RAY POSSESSED MUCH+ +EMPATHY FOR AMERICA+ >his family were part of the great >westward movement with< +DANIEL BOONE+ ^^^^^^^^^ +JEFFERSON-LAFAYETTE-NOAILLES+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >as lou has so aptly pointed out a letter from thomas jefferson is >proudly posted at our degruy linked +DESTREHAN PLANTATION+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +THOMAS JEFFERSON+ >(ultimate gentleman planter/scholar well aware of templar masonry & >likely hero of degruy brothers<) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >THIS FORMER VIRGINIA GOVERNOR >jamestown connection< +RANDOLPHS OF ROANOKE LINK+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >like his friend the marquis de lafayette was a great hero of french/american +FRANKLIN-MADISON ETC+ >friendship but i should point out jefferson's plantation was the +HOME OF 200 SLAVES+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (an important revelation) +TEMPLAR-FREEMASON THEORY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >i have discovered was the impetus for lafayette's joining the american +WAR FOR INDEPENDENCE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +VERLOIN DEGRUY LINKS+ >as we know through the noailles link with the de la vergne/dufouchard +LAFAYETTE'S UNCLE+ +WAS DUC de NOAILLES+ (extreme wealth) >degruy marriage, lafayette was >in close favor w/ our people< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MASONIC SUGAR MILL+ >the degruy masonic sugar mill is a valuable lafayette/degruy link but +PUBLISHED IN PARIS+ >very important to us is that lafayette was the power ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +BEHIND LOUIS PHILIPPE'S RISE TO+ +THE THRONE OF FRANCE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (and we remember the hospitality given louis philippe at our foucher de circe, de bore and marigny plantations) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +NO WONDER LAFAYETTE ASKED+ +FOR LAND IN NEW ORLEANS+ (congress' reward to him) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >lets remember also lafayette's aid-de- camp during the revolutionary war +NEW ORLEANS AGENT+ >was our degruy/foucher/saulet sometime business associate +ARMOND DUPLANTIER+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >who purchased our delord sarpy house +SAULET FABOURG+ >and other of our land for lafayette' ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +THOMAS JEFFERSON WAS THE+ +ARCHITECT OF THIS CONGRESSIONAL+ >(his military genius a link w sieur noailles de aime) +REWARD GIFT TO LAFAYETTE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >lafayette introduced thomas jefferson as i have prviously written to +ADRIENNE CATHERINE de NOAILLES+ +MADAME de TESSE+ >daughter of the duke de noailles and aunt of lafayette's noailles/vergne wife. >w/ strong new orleans creole link< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CHATEAU DE CHAVILLE+ >was the palatial country estate where madame de noailles de tesse acted as ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +JEFFERSON'S INTIMATE HOST+ (description by others) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(jefferson reciprocated w/ gifts of rare trees and shrubs from monticello) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +POLITICAL DISCUSSIONS+ >were a favorite topic at the noailles chateau and she was in favor of.. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CONSITUTIONAL MONARCHY+ >which of course led to the rise of our +KING LOUIS PHILIPPE+ >and the new orleans creole entree in paris at the french court and its +ARCHIVES-LIBRARIES+ >governmental institutions< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +NOAILLES POST REVOLUTION+ >madame de noailles de teche survived the revolution (in germany) but some of the noailles were guillotined. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FREEMASON-ROSICRUCIAN+ >influence continued on both sides of the atlantic and benjamin latrobe in coordination w/ fathers of our constitution rebuilt the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >NATIONAL CAPITOL IN ACCORDANCE W/ CONCEPTS ORIGINATING IN (templar-sion spread) +ANCIENT EGYPT & JERUSALEM+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >in new orleans, hostilities with the english continued culminating w/ +THE BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >where degruy & allied creoles won +CREOLE CAVALRY HONORS+ >on our villere plantation setting< (roys, leseppes, cavarocs etc) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

+CREOLE FRENCH CULTURAL TIES+ (louisiana back to paris) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FASCINATING AND DYNAMIC+ (w/ amazing synchronicity) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >for some reason the response i made to helen's questions have disappeared from my in box, sent box & draft box. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +I HOPE YOU RECIEVED IT+ >i did send it but essentially the answers can be found via my earlier essays. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >google.com (search) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >EUGENE RAY / DEGRUY +de NOAILLES de AIME+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ and >EUGENE RAY / DEGRUY +KING'S SHIP SOMME+ ^^^^^^^^^^^ >(the officer who kept the > ship journal is unrevealed<) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +NOAILLES-DEGRUY LINKS+ +VIA JEFFERSON-LAFAYETTE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >you may remember the links also of the noailles/degruy w/ lafayette's.. +google.com (search)+ >EUGENE RAY / DEGRUY +PIOCHE-de LA VERGNE+ >..wife and pres. thomas jefferson. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ROCHE-FOUCAULD & DEGRUY+ >let us remember the fantastic links of lafayette's (pioche de la vergne) wife w/ her rochefoucauld lover who ("FATHER" OF LA. PURCHASE) >assisted her writing the famous novel +PRINCESS OF CLEVES+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(the de la vergne-du fouchard degruy intermarriage vital in louisiana) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +HOTEL de COULANGES+ >next to the place des vosges in paris is where madame lafayette's writer friend +MADAME SEVIGNE+ >was born as her mother was +MADAME COULANGE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +COULANGE IN NEW ORLEANS+ >this is important to our history as the son of our antoine j.b.v. degruy's >commander on the somme +(SIEUR D'AYME de NOAILLES)+ was married to... +MARIE de LEVILLIERS de COLLANGE+ who married +FRANCOIS BOULIGNY+ (creole cultural royalty at its best) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +NOAILLES IN FRANCE+ >the noailles family in france are very wealthy possessing palatial chateaux & townhouses w/ a modern villa at hyres of world class fame w/ an +ABSTRACT GARDEN+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ +PATRONS OF THE ARTS+ >(most important in france) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >PROMOTERS OF SURREALISM< >they have been very famous as patrons and friends of famed artists salvador dali, bunuel, earnst and man ray. (not his real name) +FINANCING SURREAL FILMS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +NOAILLES IN PARIS+ >it takes months of preparation for our planned pilgrimage to france in the >SPRNG OF 2011< >i am hard at work deciding the strategy in paris and the south of france for daily agenda and chosen hotels. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +HOTEL NOAILLES+ >in paris is like the noailles family a very elegent and refined place w/ rather +LOUVRE VICINITY+ >expensive high design rooms. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +HOTEL PLACE des VOSGES+ >as much as i like high design we shall probably stay near the place de vosges close to the arsenal library of our +HUGO-NODIER FAME+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ALCHEMY ARCHIVES LIBRARY+ >this arsenal library is owned by the french government but houses +ALCHEMY & OCCULT BOOKS+ (a very french interest) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +GENEALOGICAL LIBRARY+ (LA LIBRAIRE DU GEANALOGISTE) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >is also in the place des vosges area of paris and i shall visit this facility to >find if they can be of service< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +HOTEL SULLY ARCHIVES+ ("hotel" as in townhouse) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >french national chateaux archive close to the place des vosges ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >this archive and bookshop is where an exellent selection of chateaux data is available and i shall persue the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CHATEAU BARBERIE ST. SULPICE+ >where our la roy family lived >just west of troyes, france) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >plus the louis xiv destroyed< w/ the aid of cardinal +MAZARAIN+ ^^^^^^^ +CHATEAU BARBARY @ NEVERS+ >the famed chateau of the plantard family where st. vincent de paul studied the +ART-SCIENCE OF ALCHEMY+ >w/ the legendary "jean the alchemist"< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FRENCH CREOLE GENEALOGY+ (tie back to priory de sion) >let us remember our degruy/plantard inter-marriage in st. charles parish +TEMPLAR HERITAGE+ >w/ the dusseau de la croix and rillieux/degas/dumas links. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ TO BE CONTINUED... gene ray, san diego, california

+RESPONSE TO HELEN'S QUESTIONS+. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 1) please read my past essays of.... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +de NOAILLES de AIME+ >rootsweb archive , july 5, 2008 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ google.com (search) EUGENE RAY / DEGRUY +de NOAILLES de AIME+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ and >rootsweb archive , june 14, 2008 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >EUGENE RAY / DEGRUY +KING'S SHIP SOAME+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2) the french officer who kept the log regarding arrival of the king's ship soane is quite unknown. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +IT WAS NOT DEGRUY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >also my thomas jefferson and< +GOOGLE FOR INFO+ >lafayette noailles links< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >all best regards gene

Gene, I was just reading your post today. I was just wondering. Who is Sieur de Noailles de Aime and where would the journal he kept be located? Perhaps this will tell us what ship our Antoine arrived on coming here to the Louisiana Territories. Helen Kendrick