+WE ARE ALL LINKED IN OUR+ +PSYCHIC ENVELOPE+ >if not in blood< gene -----Original Message----- From: Eugene Ray Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2010 11:13 AM To: mconrad@lsu.edu, mdesmon@lsu.edu Cc: eamcray@webtv.net Subject: POIGNANT DEEP NIGHT DREAM a party in honor of dr. bob reich >professor max conrad lsu, landcape architecture ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >professor mike desmond lsu, architecture ^^^^^^^^^^ >DEAR MAX & MIKE<, +DEEP NIGHT RADIANT DREAM+ (the party for dr. bob reich) +AN ACTUAL PSYCHIC EXERIENCE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >i suppose writing about dr.reich's death yesterday triggered my dreams this night between 12 and 3 a.m. when ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +RICHARD BLAKELY+ (landscape achitect/professor) >my old l.s.u. classmate came back to >visit with me in a vivid dream<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(richard died a tragic death from lung failure caused by breathing asbestos >fibers in a job to finance schooling< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >AUTUMN HIS WIFE LATER SERVED ON AN A.I.A COMMITTEE TO >vital, deep persona< +PREVENT THIS USAGE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +DEVOTED FRIEND+ >richard honored me after visiting the house i built in covington by showing +GLASS WALLED PAVILION+ >slides of it to the l.s.u. architecture +JUNGLE-RIVER MILIEU+ >faculty who hired me to teach +HEART ATTACK+ >replacing prof. jim hand<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +SYNCHRONIITY+ >our verloin degruy ancestors had sold +FRANCOIS VERLOIN DEGRUY+ >tchefuncte river property to jim's +MILES B. HAND+ >ancestors 105 years earlier< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +DREAM OF BEAUTY & POIGNANCE+ >deep night dreams are an amazing phenomina and i believe serve a +NIGHT EXPLORATIONS+ >valuable function as a bridge >to psychic manifestations< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +RICHARD BLAKELY'S RETURN WAS+ >filled w/ human concern< +VERY REAL AND POIGNANT+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >it was at a crowded party of many of our old classmates and was enriched >(FRIEDRICHS-CONRAD-BOGGS RHEEM-WOMAC-LAMP- SAPP-GENDUSA etc) >not only w/ the joy of humanity but also by seeing again all of my old (appeared as if living) +ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >which in the perfection of dreams +LOOKED LARGER THEN LIFE+ >they had become radiant icons filled w/transcendent beauty +MAGNIFICENT IMAGES+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +PENCIL VS ELECTRONICS+ >the beauty of pencil drawings of my generation is in architcture virtually +A LOST GRAPHIC ART+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >keep in mind i pioneered in california a techinique to create a very +RADIANT & VIVID+ ^^^^^^^^^^^ +COLLAGE DESIGN RENDERING+ >via flourescent color paper collaged & photographed under u.v. light. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >these photos can be seen on page 4 +JOURNAL PAGE 98+ >of the japanese arch. journal +ARCHITECTURE & URBANISM+ (march 1985, no 174) >coverage of my architectural oeuvre< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +OREGON STATE EXHIBITION+ >in 1964 richard blakely's faith in my work resulted in the invitation for a +SCHOOL OF THE ARTS+ >one man exhibition at oregon state. (heady reward for just 5 yrs work) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >richard blakely had earned a master's degree at harvard under the great +BAUHAUS HEAD GROPIUS+ >his influence was quite persuasive< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +DR. REICH'S HEAVENLY PARTY+ >professors bob heck & john lawrence heads of l.s.u. & tulane architecture respectivly ceremonially led the +ENTRANCE OF BOB REICH+ +TO HIS FINAL REWARD+ (the plant kingdom) ^^^^^^^^^^^ +THE DREAM PARTY WAS CERTAINLY+ +A TRIBUTE TO DR. ROBERT REICH+ >(richard blakely organised it i saw his facial concern) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

There is a genealogy book on that family, controlled by the author. I tried to get a copy, thinking this was my Perrin link, I was told I'm not of or from Those Perrins', David should have a copy. Judy P On Aug 7, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Degruy List Administrator wrote: > Me again. > Just had a thought.... wonder if that JAQUIÉRY name could have any > relation to the Jacquet name in our Louisiana history? > > David always used to say that his name was really Perrin-Jacquet. > [Boy do I wish he had email. There's so much he could participate in > if > he weren't so isolated.] > > The Jacquets I have in my files include: Anne Elida, Corrine, > Etienne/Sidney; Francois; Joseph Alcee; Louis Stephen; Seymour; Willy > Francois and Bruno/Gustav. Some of you probably have a lot more than > these. Wonder if the Jacquets among us will remember ever having seen > JAQUIÉRY. > > Anyway, just keep this in mind if you go to that website. > R > This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed > to be "fact." All data should be verified. > Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Me again. Just had a thought.... wonder if that JAQUIÉRY name could have any relation to the Jacquet name in our Louisiana history? David always used to say that his name was really Perrin-Jacquet. [Boy do I wish he had email. There's so much he could participate in if he weren't so isolated.] The Jacquets I have in my files include: Anne Elida, Corrine, Etienne/Sidney; Francois; Joseph Alcee; Louis Stephen; Seymour; Willy Francois and Bruno/Gustav. Some of you probably have a lot more than these. Wonder if the Jacquets among us will remember ever having seen JAQUIÉRY. Anyway, just keep this in mind if you go to that website. R

OML Take A Look At This!!!! Warning!: It's from the Internet. It has not been researched or verified. Still... it might contain clues.... nevertheless, be wary. R A SHORT HISTORY OF THE JAQUIÉRY FAMILY Near the centre of Europe is a country which we now call Switzerland. In its western part, between two lakes, Geneva and Neuchatel lies the canton (or we would say a province) which is called Vaud. People have dwelt there ever since man lived in caves and used stone tools. These people were a Celtic tribe who came to be known as the Helvetii. This long ago people everywhere were much shorter than people are today. Yet the Helvetii were taller and stronger than many of the other neighbouring tribes. They had fair hair and complexions and blue or gray eyes. For their time, they were a cultured people, as recent archeological discoveries have shown. Their strength and physique made them formidable fighters. About a hundred years before the birth of Jesus the Helvetii fought and defeated a Roman army driving it back into Italy. The Roman Empire, however, was the greatest and the most powerful that the world had ever known. In time, its armies defeated the Helvetii and their land became part of the Roman Empire. For three and a half centuries the Romans ruled Vaud. The Helvetii gradually adopted the language and many of the customs of Rome. Some of the Roman Centurians and soldiers married young women from the local area. One such marriage between a Roman and a young woman of the Helvetii was the beginning of the Jaquiery family. FAMILY NAMES Many centuries ago family surnames as we know them did not exist, but the descendants of this marriage continued to live in and near the villages of Demoret and Moudon until, sometime in the 14th century A.D. they came to be called the Jaquiery family. If you go to those same villages today you will still find the Jaquiery family living there. The earliest date shown on our family tree is A.D. 1390 when a Willermi Salaz, also known as Jaquier or Jaquiery was recorded. The names "Salaz", "Jaquier" and "Jaquiéry" were all used by our family about this time. IMPORTANT FAMILIES An important event in the history of the Jaquiery family took place when Jean Jaquiery who was a notary married Sara, the daughter of another notary Rodolphe Demont de Moudon and his (third) wife, Marie de Gruyère whom he married about 1542. Marie's family were nobles, Louis de Gruyère, and others. According to the historian Henri Naef the Gruyère family received its title and power from the Carolingian kings. There are records of the family as landowners and nobles in the Gruyère area as early as the 10th century. The castle on the hilltop at Gruyère, still today one of the two finest castles in Switzerland, was the seat of the Gruyère dynasty for five centuries. * The ancestors of Antoine de Gruyère of Aigremont* can also be traced back through the male branch of other dynasties such as the de Salins Vaugrenant d'Alamen, the Barons of Aubonne and of Coppet, the de Joinville, the Counts of Savoy, the Dukes of Lorraine, of Thoire and of Villars, the Counts of Geneva and others. Through the feminine branch they were linked to the patrician family de Saliceto of Fribourg and the Mayor of Avenches etc. Among the most interesting and powerful of the dynasties with which the Jaquiery family was either linked through marriage or closely associated was the House of Savoy which gained control of Vaud during the rule of Thomas (1177 - 1233) and ruled the area continuously until 1536. The territories of the first Duke of Savoy covered a vast stretch of West Central Europe. Savoy heirs were later kings of Sicily, then Sardinia and from 1861 until 1944, kings of Italy - although these developments took place long after the Savoys had ceased to be involved with Vaud. We ourselves are direct, although very distant, descendants of Jean and Sara Jaquiery so some these famous and powerful families are rightly listed among our ancestors also. FROM SWITZERLAND TO ENGLAND For many hundreds of years almost all members of the Jaquiery family, like most others in Switzerland, were born, lived, married, brought up their children and died in their own villages, rarely shifting to live away from the place of their birth. This began to change following the great social upheavals throughout Europe brought about by plagues, religious reformation and revolution. From at least as early as 1601 AD some of the Jaquiery Family went from Switzerland to England. Sometime before 1763 a Jean Pierre Jaquiery, of Moudon, the son of Charles Jaquiery, came to England and settled in London. In 1763 Jean Pierre Jaquiery, who in England was called "John Jaquerry" married Susannah Platt at the church of St Luke, Chelsea. John and Susannah had three children, one of whom was John Baptist Jaquiery (called Jean Baptiste in Switzerland). This first John Baptist (or Jean Baptiste) in turn married and had three sons. The eldest of the three was Samuel John Jaquiery who in 1848 married Rebecca Elizabeth Williams. Samuel and Rebecca had a family of seven children of whom two died when they were very young. The eldest of the surviving sons was named John Baptist (after his grand father) and became the founder of the New Zealand Jaquiery family. Other descendants of Samuel and Rebecca emigrated to Canada and the United States of America, founding the families still to be found in those countries. So it is that all the Jaquiery families in all the English-speaking countries in the world are descended from Jean Pierre and Susannah. THE NEW ZEALAND FAMILY In 1866, at the age of 27, John Baptist Jaquiery left England and his family to emigrate to Australia. Working his passage on a sailing ship, the Gala, he went first to Melbourne and then to Launceston in Tasmania. Here he workd as a mounted policeman and met and married Ann Eliza, the daughter of the well-known Gardam family. Their son Walter was born in 1870 and the same year the family moved to Melbourne. While living in Melbourne three more children were born, Bernard, Ann and Robert, but Ann, the only daughter, died at the age of 8 months. In 1876 the family moved once again, to Wellington, New Zealand, travelling on the sailing ship Wallaby. John Baptist, who had been trained as a lithographer, worked at first for a printing firm and later as a prison officer. We are told that he was a very clever man and spoke seven languages. Soon after arriving in New Zealand he learnt Maori and for a time he was the interpreter for the General commanding the Government forces. While in Wellington the last of John and Ann's children, George Frederick, was born in 1881. Four years later the Prison Service transferred them to the prison at Lyttleton where John Baptist became Chief Warder. From Lyttleton there was another transfer to the position of Chief Warder of the prison at Invercargill. In 1890 John Baptist resigned from the Prison Service and a short time later he and his wife opened a shop on the corner of Dee and Clyde Streets, Invercargill. He died in 1894. After John Baptist's death his widow Ann Eliza continued to run the Jaquiery Shop, eventually handing it over to her son Bernard and his wife Charlotte (nee Thorn). Bernard died as the result of an accident, but Charlotte carried on the business for many years. Ann Eliza herself lived on until 1915. In time the family moved gradually away from Invercargill, usually in search of work or better opportunities. Robert established a business as a plumber and tinsmith in Winton until he also died as the result of an accident. The other brothers moved north. Only the youngest, George Frederick, remained in Invercargill. Although he too died at a relatively early age, he lived long enough to ensure that the Jaquiery name would not be quickly forgotten. Lake Jaquiery, the Jaquiery Stream and Jaquiery Pass are named after him. From: http://jaquiery.org/shorthistory.htm

A selection from "Illinois in the 18th Century" "And Renault, on a portion of his grant above the Fort, established the village of St. Philip, which became a thriving place. These were laid out after the French manner, with Commons and Common Fields, still marked upon the local maps, and in some cases held and used to this day under the provisions of these early grants. In each of the villages was a chapel, under the jurisdiction of the parent church of Ste. Anne of Fort Chartres.* To the colony came scions of noble families of France, seeking fame and adventure in that distant land, and their names and titles appear at length in the old records and parish registers.* Among them was Benoist St. Claire, captain of a company detached from the marine service, who followed La Buissonie're in the chief command, and held it for a year or more. He found little to do in those piping times of peace, made an occasional grant of land, and sought other service early in 1742." ------------ Note from Renee: Here are my comments from an entry I've just posted on our website in the "History" section, categories: Degruys in Print and Our History in Illinois. Note that I have posted the Entire Book in pdf format! .............. This is a pdf version of the book. I do not think you can search this version, but if you go to Google books, http://books.google.com/books?id=MzAUAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA17&dq=%22 The+Illinois+Country%22&hl=en&ei=JpVdTJTEIML68AbJyanEDQ&sa=X &oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAzge#v=onepa ge&q=%22The%20Illinois%20Country%22&f=false <http://books.google.com/books?id=MzAUAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA17&dq=%22,The+Illinois+Country%22&hl=en&ei=JpVdTJTEIML68AbJyanEDQ&sa=X,&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAzge#v=onepa,ge&q=%22The%20Illinois%20Country%22&f=false> you can search from there, get a page number and then go to that page number in the book I've uploaded. Sneaky, eh? Check out page 16 where it mentions Dussault de la Croix and Antoine de Gruye I have posted items from this book before. I used to have to go to the Missouri Archives and sit there and hand write notes and pay for photocopies in order to get material. Very time-consuming. Now it's all available on line, for complete download through Google Books. Amazing! Enjoy! R

>late last night, ron eden, my oldest >friend called from baton rouge<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +DR. ROBERT REICH DIED+ >yesterday in baton rouge at 97 years >years of age and former head of the l.s.u. >school of landscape architecture< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +BOB REICH WAS MY FRIEND AND+ >known as doc. to everyone< +FORMER PROFESSOR & COLLEAGUE+ >he was much beloved< >A TRULY REMARKABLE MAN< >he shall be missed<. ^^^^^^^^^^ +FRIENDS FOR LIFE+ >bob and max conrad, professor and +1980s TOURS TO CALIFORNIA+ >friend would arrive in san diego +DESIGN VENUES+ >for visits w/ students for my >LECTURES AT SD.S.U.< ^^^^^^^^^^^^ +BOB LOVED PLANTS & IGNITED+ >sentient creatures< +THIS IN ALL OF HIS PEOPLE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MODEST-HEALTHY-SINCERE+ >an outdoors man he bicycled to l.s.u. +MUCH PERSONAL WARMTH+ >daily and slept on the screen porch +WORE KAHKIS/BOOTS+ >of his modest suburban home<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +GENIAL-AMUSING+ >he spoke loud w/ a new york +LOVED PEOPLE+ >accent because of loss of >his hearing ability< ^^^^^^^^^^^ >l.s.u was his daily life< >HE VOLUNTEERED TEACHING< >even though retired< +UNTIL HIS VERY DEATH+ >using hearing aids< ^^^^^^^^^^ +BOB WAS IN THE AUDIENCE AT+ >i dedicated those lectures to him and bob heck >prof. of architecture< +L.S.U. FOR BOTH MY LECTURES+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MUCH GRATITUDE & MANY+ +FOND MEMORIES+ >thanks bob, i always think of you in the autumn when i meditate w/ +PLUMBAGO CAPENSIS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +SYNCHRONICITY+ 1) as you know baton rouge was on my mind yesterday when i wrote about designing & building that early +MODERN FURNITURE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(i was an l.s.u. student 1956-1959 +LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE >and professor 1965-1967 of that +AND ARCHITECTURE+ >class when a prof. became ill<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2) +PLANTS WERE FAMILY BUSINESS+ >our plant dependent ancestors< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ A) degruy-indigo/sugar plantations (award winning by 1840) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ B) cavaroc-sugar plantation and vinyards in france/louisiana. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(u.s. govt. paid chas. cavaroc to start la. vinyards but the >climate was wrong<) ^^^^^^^^^^^ C) george staigg was a cotton factor and broker & pres. of the new >orleans cotton exchange<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ D john ray was primarily a lawyer judge & legislator & he had a >cotton plantation in his< >youth @ rayville la.< ^^^^^^^^^^^ >the following is in honor of +DOCTOR ROBERT REICH+ >lover of plants< ^^^^^^^^^ 2) "THE SECRET LIFE OF PLANTS" by tompkins and bird ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >has been on the card table where i type these "midnight musings"for +MANY WEEKS & MONTHS+ >an icon of ultimate truth< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +TRANSCENDENT REVELATION+ >aesthetic vibrations< >total cognition< +SENTIENT PLANT WORLD+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 3) +OUR MOTHER LOVED PLANTS+ >and gifted this to us< +ESPECIALLY JUNGLE PLANTS+ >these essays daily evidence< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 4) >you may recall that i lamented the loss of the la. farm bulletin which +FRENCH TROPIC SYNDROME+ >was sent to me in california and +NOLA GARDEN PEOPLE+ >from which i purchased many >tropical seeds and plants< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MAGICAL APPARITION+ >just yesterday, the day bob reich died, i found a letter in my archive from +GOVERNOR EDWIN EDWARDS+ (notorious jail persona) >apologising for the demise of the (i had complained) +THE LOUISIANA FARM BULLETIN+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 5) +ULTIMATE COMUNICATION+ >i have just retrieved from storage +SECRETS IN THE FIELDS+ >amazing review of< +THE SCIENCE & MYSTICISM OF+ +C R O P+C I R C L E S+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >it is very appropriate that the< +PLANT KINGDOM+ >is the palate for transcendence< +BOB REICH'S MILIEU+ >they have welcomed him to his< +FINAL REWARD+ ^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, sandiego, california

+RUINS AND BEAUTY+ >(beauty of ruins)< >as i went to sleep last night a thought came to me of the good fortune of +HAVING ROOTS IN NEW ORLEANS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >where history. ambience, scholarship, +THE SEVEN ARTS+ >poetry, and european cultural ties +CARRY SOME SPIRITUAL WEIGHT+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >art was important in my parents< +CREOLE HOUSEHOLD+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >our house was a veritable living museum +OF EVERY FORM OF KNOWN ART+ >and some not yet recognised (latin communication) +VIVID-EXPRESSIVE-SECRET+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CORRESONDENCE ART+ >documenta art using xerography collage in multiples and the +U.S. POSTAL SERVICE+ >which became my favored medium in >california second only to design<. +ESPECIALLY ARCHITECTURE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +BATON ROUGE , 1955+ >(furniture wasn't overlookd, as early as baton rouge, 1955 when i designed +WHITE CABINETS-BED ROOM+ >sliding pegboard panels< >in radiant colours< +BLACK CABINETS-LIVING+ >and built our marriage furniture<) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CLEAN MODERN SPIRITED LINES+ >spring of life aesthetics< +REFLECTED NEW SPIRITED LIFE+ (radiant wife=blonde beauty +MARIAN OLSEN RAY+ +1936-2003+ >later a phi beta kappa<) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +POETIC-POIGNANT-ROOTS+ >synchronistically we went looking for >creole plantation ruins on the< +LOST FRENCH HERITAGE+ >weeknds in my bulbous french blue +1949 PLYMOUTH W/ ITS+ >huge scrubbed whitewall tires >to match white-buck shoes< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FRENCH CREOLE RUINS+ >just found in my library storage< +"IN RUINS : A JOURNEY THROUGH+ +HISTORY, ART & LITERATURE"+ by christopher woodward ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >reminds me of the opening page of< +DAPHNE DUMAURIER'S "REBECCA"+ (woodward missed that classic) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +WITH ITS FABULOUS DESCRIPTION+ (the family garden in ruins) +OF THE LOST COUNTRY HOUSE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >surrealistic dream invoked< +CREOLE PLANTATION+ >of verloin degruy chateaux< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +HUGO-FOUCHER RUINS+ >victor hugo's taste for ruins is traced by christopher woodward to +COMTE de VOLNEY+ >his mother's cousin who wrote< +"LES RUINES"+ >which had much influence on >the 18 year old victor< ^^^^^^^^^^^^ +JOHN PIPER ILLUSTRATIONS+ >of english counry house ruins are the very best i know of outside of his >very talented countryman< +FREDERICK CATHERWOOD+ >llustrations of maya yucatan ruins< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +GOTHIC SURREALISM+ >see osbert sitwells autobiographical series to find piper's illustrations >("LAUGHTER IN THE NEXT ROOM" IS ONE VOL.) >of renishaw, the sitwell home +in the north of england+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +SO COLD IN WINTER ONE WORE+ +AN OVERCOAT TO GO TO THE+ >bathroom down the hall w/ the draft blowing ones hat +RIGHT OFF THE HEAD+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +NEW ORLEANS MISE-EN-SCENE+ (eccentric creole ruins) >e. j. belloch the surrealistic new orleans photographer which french director +LOUIS MALLE+ ("the lovers" film fame) >based his famous new orleans film "PRETTY BABY" >as he documented the ladies of +S T O R Y V I L L E+ >new orleans redlight district< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +BELLOCH THE ECCENTRIC RESULT+ +OF CREOLE NOLA INBREEDING+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >was a persona inspirational to >john kennedy toole for< >his award winning< ^^^^^^^^^^^ +"CONFEDERACY OF DUNCES"+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >bellocq's life began in creole elegence on esplanade avenue in 1873 and paralleled that of atget in paris +TOULOUSE LAUTREC+ >is particularly brought to mind with >his aristocrat in brothel history<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +BOTH DEFORMED FRENCH ARTSTS+ >bellocq was short fat, bald< >w/ a large pot belly< +BEFRIENDING & DOCUMENTING+ >lautrec was dwarfed< +LADIES OF THE EVENING+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +BOTH POSSESSED GENIUS+ >french and sensual< +MINDFUL OF PIERRE LOUYS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

+THANKS MARY LYNN HYDE+ >for reporting post katrina history of +MID CENTURY+ >contemporary architecture in the +CITY OF NEW ORLEANS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >i worked directly w/ arthur davis on the automotive life insurance co. +SUBJECT BUILDING+ >building of 1963 constructed >on the canal st. extension<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +SYNCHRONISTICALLY+ >it was arthur's son, quint davis who started the jazz-fest the year after i constructed the decatur st. +JAZZ WORKSHOP+ >published in the times picayune< +SUNDAY ROTOGRAVURE+ >june/29/nineteen sixty nine< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ARCHITECTURE IN THE TROPICS IS+ >louisiana-french west indies< +EPHEMERAL AS TROPICAL STORMS >especially tropical cyclones< +TAKE A TERRIBLE TOLL+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(those "gingerbread" houses of haiti are probably all gone) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >solutions needed are< +WARPED PLANE-THIN SHELL+ >tensile-biomorhic< +CYCLONE PROOF STRUCTURE+ >please read my essays on building< >techniques to resist the cyclones< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >google.com (search)< >EUGENE RAY / DEGRUY / +BIOMORPHIC STRUCTURE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +RESILIENT TENSILE STRUCTURE+ (ferro-cement, economy) >i researched and taught this design at s.d.s.u. for over a quarter century. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CONTEMPORARY ARCHITECTURE+ >should not be symply "style" >even a modernest style<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +SAINT CYR SCHOOL+ +versailles, france 18 c.+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >for many different perpectives of >degruy saint cyr school history< google.com : (search) >EUGENE RAY / DEGRUY / +ST. CYR SCHOOL+ ^^^^^^^^^^ +DEGRUY ANCIENT REGIME LINKS+ with french royal association +ARE NUMEROUS & IMPRESSIVE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FOUCHER-LIMOGES-ROCHEOUART+ >as an example links foucher to the >oldest noble family in france< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >with ties to the distinguished< 1) DREUX 2) ALBRET 3) RICHELIEU 4) NOAILLES 5) POLYGNAC >i have written about our links w/ all of these families (please google) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +HOUSE OF FOUCHER+ >at the dawn of la belle france< was very powerful and may +MAGNY-FOUCHARD+ (extol-foucher) >account for the chateau title< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FOUCHER SUPPORT OF KING CHARLES+ >viscount foucher crowned< +876+ >limousin and berry< +THE BALD WAS AN EPIC EVENT+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +NOAILLES-MAINTENON+ >when king louis xiv mistress, madame mantenon, picked a husband for +SOCIAL CLIMBING+ >her niece (to leave her castle and fortune) she selected ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ADRIEN MAURICE de NOAILLES+ >duke de noailles< +1678-1766+ >of all french nobility to marry< +FRANCOISE AMABLE de ALBIGNY+ +1684-1739+ >the castle was held by their heirs >until the early nineteen eightys< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MANSART, ARCHITECT+ +LE NOTRE , LANDSCAPE+ >are just two of the talents who were +NOAILLES-MAINTENON CASTLE+ >involved at the maintenon castle< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MARQUIS de LAFAYETTE+ (chateau de chavaniac) >was married to our creole linked< +MARIE ADRIENNE FRANCOISE NOAILLES+ whose family featured 3 marshals of france including antoine's somme >shipmate general, winter 1738<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +KING LOUIS PHILLIPE'S+ >french throne and foucher de circe +NEW ORLEANS+ >plantation welcome can be traced +TO LAFAYETTE'S SUPPORT+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(one french group had wanted to make lafayette head of france) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FOUCHER-TOULOUSE+ >the second son of raymond i count of toulouse married into the +FOUCHER de LIMOGES+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +DREUX-NAVARRE-+ +FOUCHER+ +PAMPLUME-ALBRET+ >this very rich gumbo on the sp/fr< +LANGUEDOC BORDER+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >results in the magnificent< +FRENCH KING HENRI IV+ >husband of catherine de medici< +VALENTIN MISTRESS+ (diane de poitier) ^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

2010-Aspelund Marie Louise Baudier Aspelund, age 94, passed away on Saturday, July 31, 2010. Wife of the late Carl Aspelund. Mother of Carl L. Aspelund and the late Donald J. Aspelund. Grandmother of Stephanie Smith and Christine Smith both of Houston, TX. Sister of Audrey Brown, and the late Maurice Boudier [sic], Jr., Robert Boudier [sic], and Adelaide Magaden [sic]. Aunt of Therese Hisaw. A native of New Orleans and a resident of Metairie. Mrs. Aspelund was a retired teacher for the Orleans Parish School System. Relatives and friends of the family are invited to attend the funeral Mass at Leitz-Eagan Funeral Home, 4747 Veterans Blvd. at 11:00 a.m. Visitation from 9:00 a.m until service time. Interment in Lakelawn Mausoleum. Condolences may be offered at www.leitzeaganfuneralhome.com Times Picayune Newspaper, New Orleans, La. August 3, 2010, p3, c6 Note: Adelaide Baudier Madigan was the lawyer who composed the Baudier family genealogy (although incomplete) for the Boutte' property settlement in Barataria. She with Roger Baudier, Maurice Baudier and other family members where among those who went to court for rights to the oil located on the small strip of land that had not been sold. Note: (Joseph) Roger Baudier was the family member who wrote many books on the Catholic Religion and Catholic Churches. Helen Kendrick

Hello List, The DeGruy and Baudier family are the line of myself (Helen) and Bonnie. We have not posted much about them on this site but I plan to do so in the future. There was an obit in today's paper for Marie Louise Baudier Aspeland that I will add after I post how she is related in the family, to help members on this site. DeGruy married Couturier their son (Thomas) Antoine DuFouchard Verloin DeGruy married (Marie) Josephine Stephanie Guerin Molle' or Molle' Guerin their daughter (Marie Anne) Leonide Josephine DuFouchard Verloin DeGruy married (Jean) Victor Baudier, Sr. their son (Jean) Alexandre Baudier, Sr. married (Marie Louise) Elodie Boutte' their son (Jean) Alexandre Baudier, Jr. married his cousin (Louise) Angela Baudier their son (Louis) Maurice Baudier, Sr. married (Marie) Adelaide Sydalise Thompson their daughter Marie Louise Baudier married Carl Aspelund ---------------- (Louise) Angela Baudier married her cousin (Jean) Alexandre Baudier, Jr. the daughter of Ernest Joseph Baudier and Louise Angela Planchard the granddaughter of (Marie Anne) Leonide Josephine DuFouchard Verloin Degruy and (Jean) Victor Baudier, Sr. the great-granddaughter of DeGruy and Guerin Molle'-Molle' Guerin the great-great-granddaughter of DeGruy and Couturier Helen Kendrick

+ FRENCH CREOLE GOSSIP+ >can you imagine the gossip and livid excitement in new orleans when the rumour of another kings mistress +IN THE de GRUY CLOSET+ >spread like wildfire... this time as >before the truth was cloudy< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FOUCHER de CIRCE+ >and related to the foucher de circe >our very illustrious relations+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +WORLD WIDE WEB+ >(the following is what i found in two hours of internet search) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +LOUIS-GERMAIN ABIMELECH FOUCHER+ (abimelech means "king is my father") +MARQUIS de CIRCE+ >born 1639< +GOVERNOR OF POITOU+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >was husband of< +MARIE de ANGENNES+ >who was actually the real family< +MADAME de MAINTENON+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FRANCOISE de AUBIGNE+ >favorite mistress and confidante of< +FRENCH KING LOUIS XIV+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >who became his second wife, acquired this title by purchasing the castle and +FABULOUS CASTLE www PHOTO+ >title from charles francois angennes +MARQUIS de MAINTENON+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >who went off to become a buccaneer +PREYING ON BRITISH+ >in the french west indies and then became governor if the island +MARIE GALANTE+ ^^^^^^^^^^ >(chateaubriand loved this castle w/ its many victor hugo-esque +ROMANTIC SPIRES+ >inspiring the gothic movement< >hunchback of notre dame etc.<) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +KING LOUIS XIV's GIFT+ >apparently king louis xiv financed the purchase of the castle (loire valley) +ROYAL LOVE NEST >and title for francoise de aubigne) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +NOLA deGLAPION CONNECTION+ >synchronistically our nola christophe de glapion/marie laveau family had deep +CLOSEST FRIENDSHIP+ >ties back to madame de maintenon +PLUS THE SUN KING+ >via the glapion/maintenon link at versailles and the castle +MAINTENON+ ^^^^^^^^ +SAINT CYR SCHOOL+ >founded by madame de maintenon and king louis xiv is part of degruy history +ANTOINE'S SISTER+ >at versailles and reminds us that our +COL. GASPARD WAS PRESENT+ +FOR MUCH OF THIS DRAMA+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +THE HOUSE OF FOUCHER de CIRCE+ >is a marvelous network of french nobility awaiting someone to +U N R A V E L+ ^^^^^^^^ >to be continued... gene ray, san diego, california

Thanks, Renee. Fascinating piece. ~Bonnie B. B. Wood beebeewood@gmail.com Learning is Social: A library is a place to gather together and interact with one another and with information. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Degruy List Administrator < listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> wrote: > Remember what Msr. Chapelin had to say > "Nevertheless, as the daughter of a died officer, Marie Jeanne Françoise > De Gruy Verloin, born in Coulommiers in 1715 was admitted to the > Demoiselles de St-Cyr on 12 October 1723 until the 5 August 1735. Even > if the family was not poor, her mother was alone and never married > again. So, about 1735 - the Demoiselles de St-Cyr had to leave at 20 > years old - she was married to a man of poor nobility, Joseph de > Puibusque Saiont-Padou. This man, from a famous but poor condition, born > about 1680, was an ‘Excempt [dispensed of service[ des gardes du corps > du roi, maître de camp de calvalerie, (3) chevalier de St-Louis, > seigneur of Cambou [close to Busque, Tarn, Languedoc, in the South of > France]. He died in Rozay on 30 July 1757. Marie died after 1790 at an > unknown place.” > From the research of Philippe Chapelin" > ---------------------- > Noe the excerpt from Wikipedia > > In June 1686, after 15 months of work, Louis XIV gave the domaine to the > Maison Royale de Saint-Louis, in letters patent of 18 and 26 June 1686 > confirming the founding of the establishment.[4] From 26 July to 1 > August 1686, the pensionnaires, known as the "Demoiselles de Saint-Cyr", > entered the establishment in a grand procession thanks to Louis, who > lent them his carriages and his Swiss guards.[2] Madame de Brinon was > made the institution's superior for life, and Madame de Maintenon was > given the title of "Institutrice de la Maison Royale de Saint-Louis", > which gave her total authority over the Maison.[4] The king also granted > her an apartment at Saint-Cyr which she could use when she wished.[2] > The school's chapel was consecrated to Our Lady on 2 August that year[4] > and the relics of St Candide, previously held at the chapel of Noisy, > were transferred there.[2] The king made his first visit to Saint-Cyr in > September 1686, when he was welcomed by the ladies and pensionnaires in > a major ceremony.[2] > Major figures became became interested in the foundation of the Maison > Royale. At the start of 1687, Fontenelle, competing for an eloquence > prize at the Académie, sang of "les Demoiselles de Saint-Cyr" and > "[their] famous model of beauty united with innocence."[4] > [edit]Organisation > > > Two "Demoiselles de Saint-Cyr". > The Maison Royale de Saint-Louis was opened "to the daughters of > gentlemen who have been killed or exhausted their health or their > fortune in the service of the State",[4] who would enter the school aged > between 7 and 12. The king himself decided on who the school admitted, > after consulting with experts on French genealogy who could guarantee > that applicants possessed at least four generations of noble birth on > their father's side.[1] Many pensionnaires were daughters, nieces or > orphans of soldiers and, though many of them were from Paris and its > outskirts, the school had students from every province of France[5] and > even from abroad (e.g., three Québécoises in the 1750s). The school > buildings housed 250 students, cared for by 36 female educators or > "professes", 24 "converses" sisters carrying out domestic tasks, some > priests, and lay personnel.[1] > ----------- > > Rules of the Maison Royale de Saint-Louis. > The school's rules, often called les Constitutions, stated in article 54 > "what to teach young ladies"[9] : > “ First to learn of God and religion (...) They must be inspired with a > great horror of vice and a great love of virtue [...]. They must learn > the duties of an honest woman in her household, as regards her husband, > children and servants [...]. They must learn to bear themselves with a > good grace [...] they must learn to read perfectly, to write, spelling, > arithmetic [...] Those meant for service must learn to comb, to dress > hair ... ” > Each class had a timetable appropriate to its students' age[1] : > • the "reds" learned reading, writing and arithmetic, receiving their > first lessons in the catechismand the rudiments of religious history and > latin > • the "greens" continued in these subjects, along with history and > geography > • the "yellows" also learned drawing, singing, dance and music > • the "blues" were initiated into heraldry, the history of the Catholic > church and more detailed teaching in morality > All the pensionnaires' days played out according to the same timetable : > they got up at 6am and went to their classrooms at 7 with the first > prayers of the days, before having their morning meal in the refectory. > They then studied from 8 until 12 before having lunch. The lunch break > lasted until 2pm, when classes began again. These lasted until 6pm, when > they had supper. They finally went to bed at 9pm[3]. Each moment of the > day was punctuated by a prayer. This timetable was shorter than that of > most convents, where students had to get up at 4am for Matins. > > The students, aged 7 to 20, were divided by age into four "classes". > They wore a uniform in the form of a brown muslin robe akin to court > robes, tied with ribbons whose colour indicated the wearer's class—red > for 7 to 10 years old; green for 11 to 14; yellow for 15-16; and blue > for 17-20. They also wore a white bonnet which left their hair partly > uncovered. Each class had its own room.[6] This uniform and division by > age were echoed in Noisy: > “ [Madame de Maintenon] had a grand morning meeting one day in Noisy, > carrying a basket full of blue, yellow, green and red ribbons by which > she designated each Demoiselle in the class to which she was suited ... > They were separated out into different bedrooms and thus called > according to the name of their ribbon, the Red class, the Blue class, > etc. There was some question of giving the students clothing that was > uniform, simple, modest, but noble ... it was decided that they were to > dress in brown Mans muslin, then more fashionable than it is today. This > dress consisted of a coat and a skirt, the bonnet being of white canvas > with a lace piece, all decorated with a ribbon.[7] > ” > Each class was headed by a "maîtresse de classe", who was herself > supported by a second mistress and sub-mistresses. Some of the oldest > and most talented students were deputised for these mistresses and wore > black ribbons. Indeed, the role of the "blacks" was wider. Chosen from > among the most talented and disciplined of the "blues", they were in > charge of helping the teachers and in the hospital, refectory, accounts, > etc.[8] The class mistresses were led by a "Maîtresse générale des > classes", who not only coordinated the different classes but also had > responsibility for the students outside of school hours.[1] > The mistresses and other ladies were not nuns but took "simples" or > temporary religious vows of poverty, chastity and obedience, as well as > vows to "devote their life to the education and instruction of the > demoiselles", which Madame de Maintenon judged to be the most important > vow of all. They were uniformly dressed in black muslin, with a black > bonnet.[1] > The students were housed at Saint-Cyr until they reached 20 and were not > supposed to leave it until that age, unless in cases of dismissal, > marriage or "exceptional family circumstances."[2] When they left the > school at the end of their studies, they received a dowry of 3,000 > livres either for a suitable marriage or to allow them to enter a > convent. However, some ex-students did not leave and remained there as > teachers. To guarantee the quality of teaching, students who wished to > become teachers followed a "noviciate" of 6 years during which they were > trained in teaching by the "Maîtresse des novices".[1] > > This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be > "fact." All data should be verified. > Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Remember what Msr. Chapelin had to say "Nevertheless, as the daughter of a died officer, Marie Jeanne Françoise De Gruy Verloin, born in Coulommiers in 1715 was admitted to the Demoiselles de St-Cyr on 12 October 1723 until the 5 August 1735. Even if the family was not poor, her mother was alone and never married again. So, about 1735 - the Demoiselles de St-Cyr had to leave at 20 years old - she was married to a man of poor nobility, Joseph de Puibusque Saiont-Padou. This man, from a famous but poor condition, born about 1680, was an ‘Excempt [dispensed of service[ des gardes du corps du roi, maître de camp de calvalerie, (3) chevalier de St-Louis, seigneur of Cambou [close to Busque, Tarn, Languedoc, in the South of France]. He died in Rozay on 30 July 1757. Marie died after 1790 at an unknown place.” From the research of Philippe Chapelin" ---------------------- Noe the excerpt from Wikipedia In June 1686, after 15 months of work, Louis XIV gave the domaine to the Maison Royale de Saint-Louis, in letters patent of 18 and 26 June 1686 confirming the founding of the establishment.[4] From 26 July to 1 August 1686, the pensionnaires, known as the "Demoiselles de Saint-Cyr", entered the establishment in a grand procession thanks to Louis, who lent them his carriages and his Swiss guards.[2] Madame de Brinon was made the institution's superior for life, and Madame de Maintenon was given the title of "Institutrice de la Maison Royale de Saint-Louis", which gave her total authority over the Maison.[4] The king also granted her an apartment at Saint-Cyr which she could use when she wished.[2] The school's chapel was consecrated to Our Lady on 2 August that year[4] and the relics of St Candide, previously held at the chapel of Noisy, were transferred there.[2] The king made his first visit to Saint-Cyr in September 1686, when he was welcomed by the ladies and pensionnaires in a major ceremony.[2] Major figures became became interested in the foundation of the Maison Royale. At the start of 1687, Fontenelle, competing for an eloquence prize at the Académie, sang of "les Demoiselles de Saint-Cyr" and "[their] famous model of beauty united with innocence."[4] [edit]Organisation Two "Demoiselles de Saint-Cyr". The Maison Royale de Saint-Louis was opened "to the daughters of gentlemen who have been killed or exhausted their health or their fortune in the service of the State",[4] who would enter the school aged between 7 and 12. The king himself decided on who the school admitted, after consulting with experts on French genealogy who could guarantee that applicants possessed at least four generations of noble birth on their father's side.[1] Many pensionnaires were daughters, nieces or orphans of soldiers and, though many of them were from Paris and its outskirts, the school had students from every province of France[5] and even from abroad (e.g., three Québécoises in the 1750s). The school buildings housed 250 students, cared for by 36 female educators or "professes", 24 "converses" sisters carrying out domestic tasks, some priests, and lay personnel.[1] ----------- Rules of the Maison Royale de Saint-Louis. The school's rules, often called les Constitutions, stated in article 54 "what to teach young ladies"[9] : “ First to learn of God and religion (...) They must be inspired with a great horror of vice and a great love of virtue [...]. They must learn the duties of an honest woman in her household, as regards her husband, children and servants [...]. They must learn to bear themselves with a good grace [...] they must learn to read perfectly, to write, spelling, arithmetic [...] Those meant for service must learn to comb, to dress hair ... ” Each class had a timetable appropriate to its students' age[1] : • the "reds" learned reading, writing and arithmetic, receiving their first lessons in the catechismand the rudiments of religious history and latin • the "greens" continued in these subjects, along with history and geography • the "yellows" also learned drawing, singing, dance and music • the "blues" were initiated into heraldry, the history of the Catholic church and more detailed teaching in morality All the pensionnaires' days played out according to the same timetable : they got up at 6am and went to their classrooms at 7 with the first prayers of the days, before having their morning meal in the refectory. They then studied from 8 until 12 before having lunch. The lunch break lasted until 2pm, when classes began again. These lasted until 6pm, when they had supper. They finally went to bed at 9pm[3]. Each moment of the day was punctuated by a prayer. This timetable was shorter than that of most convents, where students had to get up at 4am for Matins. The students, aged 7 to 20, were divided by age into four "classes". They wore a uniform in the form of a brown muslin robe akin to court robes, tied with ribbons whose colour indicated the wearer's class—red for 7 to 10 years old; green for 11 to 14; yellow for 15-16; and blue for 17-20. They also wore a white bonnet which left their hair partly uncovered. Each class had its own room.[6] This uniform and division by age were echoed in Noisy: “ [Madame de Maintenon] had a grand morning meeting one day in Noisy, carrying a basket full of blue, yellow, green and red ribbons by which she designated each Demoiselle in the class to which she was suited ... They were separated out into different bedrooms and thus called according to the name of their ribbon, the Red class, the Blue class, etc. There was some question of giving the students clothing that was uniform, simple, modest, but noble ... it was decided that they were to dress in brown Mans muslin, then more fashionable than it is today. This dress consisted of a coat and a skirt, the bonnet being of white canvas with a lace piece, all decorated with a ribbon.[7] ” Each class was headed by a "maîtresse de classe", who was herself supported by a second mistress and sub-mistresses. Some of the oldest and most talented students were deputised for these mistresses and wore black ribbons. Indeed, the role of the "blacks" was wider. Chosen from among the most talented and disciplined of the "blues", they were in charge of helping the teachers and in the hospital, refectory, accounts, etc.[8] The class mistresses were led by a "Maîtresse générale des classes", who not only coordinated the different classes but also had responsibility for the students outside of school hours.[1] The mistresses and other ladies were not nuns but took "simples" or temporary religious vows of poverty, chastity and obedience, as well as vows to "devote their life to the education and instruction of the demoiselles", which Madame de Maintenon judged to be the most important vow of all. They were uniformly dressed in black muslin, with a black bonnet.[1] The students were housed at Saint-Cyr until they reached 20 and were not supposed to leave it until that age, unless in cases of dismissal, marriage or "exceptional family circumstances."[2] When they left the school at the end of their studies, they received a dowry of 3,000 livres either for a suitable marriage or to allow them to enter a convent. However, some ex-students did not leave and remained there as teachers. To guarantee the quality of teaching, students who wished to become teachers followed a "noviciate" of 6 years during which they were trained in teaching by the "Maîtresse des novices".[1]

+TERROR IN THE NIGHT+ >synchronistically we watched the blade of dr. guillautine slice down on the +HISTORY CHANNEL BLOOD+ >neck of robespiere last night in >the terror of the revolution< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +PETIT VAL CASTLE+ >reminding us that our ancestors at petit val castle probably met that +SAME HORRIBLE FATE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MARIGNY-LIVAUDAIS-LA CROIX+ >we presume all disappeared leaving +POMPADOUR'S BROTHER+ >only abel marigny's portrait >hanging on the wall< ^^^^^^^^^^^^ (some probably fled to canada) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +EMMANUEL du SEAU de LA CROIX+ >tied to new orleans via his grandfather jacques de livaudais and grandmother +BERNARD'S SISTER+ >marie celeste de marigny married (synchronisticaly +ADELINE AUBERT de VINCNNES+ >(ancestor of my first client in +AUBERT INSURANCE+ >covington, autumn 1959) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +NOTE : THOMAS AUBERT+ >french explorer, preceeded jacques >cartier in developing canada< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +LA CROIX-DEGRUY LINK+ >the la croix/aubert marriage produced a daughter, odette du seau de la croix +RELATED TO THE LA CROIX-+ +(DEGRUY) LA. CHILDREN+ >who married a famous fr. canadian +MARQUIS MOISSON MONTELCIM+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MARIGNY-DESTREHAN+ >back in new orleans pierre de marigny (HOST TO KING LOUIS PHILLIPE) >married jeanne marie destrhan who was the daughter of j.b. destrehan the owner +OF DESTREHAN PLANTATION+ >the treasurer of the kings colony at +NEW ORLEANS+ ^^^^^^^^^ >jeanne maries brother, jean noel, saw destrehan plantation rise in sugar >production to first position in< +1840+ +VERLOIN deGRUY WAS SECOND+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >this financed those three< +VERLOIN deGRUY-FOUCHER deCIRCE+ >fireworks on the levee< +SUGAR PLANTATION WEDDINGS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CHARLES CAVAROC & SONS+ >furnished several barrels of the finest< (bordeaux imported) +CHATEAU LAMOTHE CLARET+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +PIERRE de MARIGNY+ >should be noted as the direct ancestor of not only bernard, his son, but also +BRUNO CHILLAIZ+ >distant degruy cousin born in france who has an amusing web site w/ +MUCH RELATED HISTORY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +THOYRE CASTLE RUINS+ >figure in bruno's family history as it does our vergy-gruyere and i am +SEEKING MORE INFORMATION+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >he says it was constructed to stop the arab invasion in +730 A.D.+ +SORANS CASTLE+ (savoy duchy heretage) >in the french comte is also part of his +EASTERN FRANCE+ (besancon/hugo-foucher) >french history which is important +HOLY SHROUD+ >to our la roche de ray history< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

+FRENCH VIEWING TECHNIQUE+ > the ability to "see" w/ french eyes< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +UNTRANSLATABLE FRENCH+ >the discussion regarding translating of french into english reminds me of my +PARISIAN FRENCH SPOKEN+ +MOTHER-GRANDMOTHER+ >mother's telling me as a child that certain words were without the ability to accurately translate. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MORE IMPORTANT FOR ME IS THE+ +ABILITY TO SEE VIA "FRENCH EYES"+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CLARENCE JOHN LAUGHLIN+ >my old new orleans friend of the 1960s possessed this ability in a profound +WORLD CLASS PHOTOS W/+ +SURREALIST VISION+ >way and insisted on being buried in paris' pere lachaise cemetary. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +NEW ORLEANS-PARIS VIEW+ >(see "chateau de fleurs" on the www >CLARENCE SURREALIST VISION< >cavaroc milieu< >(libraire du mervielleux >reference, paris) +de LESEPPES PLANTATION+ >in st. bernard parish<) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ROBERT HARBISON+ >(professor, arch. assoc. london)< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >is another great talent w/ the ability to +SEE W/ FRENCH VIEWING TECHNIQUE+ >a form of super (surrealism) realism< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(remember my discussion of >apollinaire and andre breton< +GOOGLE SEARCH+ >who were masters of this) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ARCHITECTURE ASSOCIATION+ >located in london, is probably the best architecture school in the world and was my favorite lecture venue in +THE DECADE OF THE 1990s+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +"ECCENTRIC SPACES"+ >by prof. robert harbison< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >is the great book in reference to sight of architecture and environment via +FRENCH VIEWING TECHNIQUE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +SHIPS IN THE NIGHT+ >peter cook and dennis crompton were my hosts when i lectured at the arch. +ARCHIGRAM GROUP LONDON+ (world class designers) >assoc. and i an not certain if robt. harbison was there but we do +SHARE MUCH IN COMMON+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +DREAMING ROOMS : SANCTUMS+ (chapter 2 of eccentric spaces) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FRENCH CASTLE RADIANCE+ >draws reference to gothic castles which strikes such a warm reponse to my ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +DEEP PSYCHIC MEMORY+ >especially the various french castles >that dot the degruy landscape< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +GRIMALDI-VALENTIN CASTLES+ >antibes/cagnes/les baux/monaco< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >picasso was so enamored by the year of living and working in the castle at antibes that he bought castles +FOR THE REST OF IS LIFE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +PETIT VAL CASTLE+ >of abel de marigny, brother of our +LA POMPADOUR+ >is located 12 miles from paris at +DE EN BRIE SUCY, FRANCE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >it is now a private school w/ abel's portrait still there but no sign of our famous historical persona. +MARIGNY-LIVAUDAIS+ +du SEAU de LA COIX+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ? >were they lost in the revolution<? >like so many of our people< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +SEVEN FRENCH KINGS+ >amazingly seven kings who are stars of our degruy history are stars of +SUCY FRENCH HISTORY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DAGOBERT-CHARLEMAGNE-ST. LOUIS FRANCOIS I-LOUIS XIV-LOUISXV AND LOUIS PHILIPPE >all appear on the stage< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ANTOINE & ANTOINETE+ >singing the leads< ^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

The term could be fabrique, which is a term used in one of the Baudier letters. A frenchman that helped me with the translation said that the term was not translatable into English. In the case of the Baudier letters, it appears that the fabrique was someone facilitating a mortgage. Here's a definition I got doing an internet search that is similar: fabrique: a legal person constituted under this Act and consisting of the chairman, the pastor of a parish or the ministering cleric of a chapelry and the churchwardens of such parish or chapelry;

Here is a message from Orelie's brother. I will post his file in the Review section on our website. "ALLEN P. DUGRUISE, #521 on this chart, Date 7/30/2010 E-Mail address: dugruise@charter.net I have compiled this “DEGRUY, DEGRUISE, DUGRUISE” listing with much help from my brother, Orelie J. Dugruise III #520 E-Mail address greybeard1948@yahoo.com. The majority of names are referenced. For names without references, I have misplaced some reference material, some later names are personal knowledge, and a few names are educated guesses. Any help with my mistakes and any additions would be greatly appreciated. Reference documents are only temporary. At a latter date I will separate each reference number by individual for each document referenced."

Translation of Verloin reference.  Not the best but I think the intent of the entry can be determined, referring to Jeanne  Verloing Didier Corvain as a charitable lady.  This is a translation by Bing also with some "correction, but cannot find translation of frabique before reference to Jeanne, which Bing literally translated as factory, that ain't right.  Of course, this being a transcription of the original hand written French, it is subject to error on the part of the transcriber. The Diocese of Langres: history and statistics, volume 3 By Charles François Roussel Magny-Fouchard priests. Garnier Paris, in 1516. Charles David, Diocese of Troyes, where he was vicar Arnoult Vincent who became then parish priest of Vauchonvilliers, 1560 and 15C3 when he resigned. Pierre Montseau, from 1563 to 1566 when he resigned. Nicolas Lancelot of the Diocese of Troyes, 1566 to 1576 where he died. Nicolas Pichon, born in Magny-Fouchard, priest in 1553, vicar of that place first, and then parish priest of 1576 in 1586, where he died. François Jacquot, of 1608, then parish priest of Vendeuvre 1586. Francois Champagne, in 1614, then parish priest of Vendeuvre 1608. François (above) Jacquot, 1614 161 o where he died. François Champagne (above), 1615. Scipion Richer, where it assent to 1630 approx. 1620. Charles Richer, around 1630 and in 1639 where he claimed rights factory on the succession of the pious and charitable Lady Jeanne de Verlouing Didier Corvain, in 1666. Nicolas Bailly, cordelier Bar-sur-Aube, serving in 1684. Benoy, priest in 1688 when he died. Didier Poinsot, ex-curé Vauchonvilliers, from 1688 to 1701, where he died. Nicolas Mallet, born in Is-Bassigny to 1665, 1701 in 1736, when he died. Puits-and-Nuisement, ex-vicaire Torcy, Edme 1736 in 1748, where he died. Jean Martinot, excuré city - le-Bois, in 1748 in 1768, where it assent, then dies to 1775. Jean-BaptisteGuidon, ex-vicaire Villy-en-Trodes, from 1768 to 1788, where he died. Char les-Nicolas Mutinot, born in Bar-sur-Aube in 1760, priest in 1783, ex-vicaire Vendeuvre, 1788 in 1791, faithful and off-site. Blavoye, sworn in 1791. ________________________________ Subject: [DEGRUY] Verloin reference in book by Charles François Roussel [accents will look weird] From Google Books http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA219&lpg=PA219&dq=VERLOUING&sig=lv57E-M3d4r3jH-m-UnvdOLuXSY&ei=8lLYS5ygLcGqlAfkzYSKBA&ct=result&id=_qG1AAAAMAAJ&ots=b5VWaiMf5P#v=onepage&q=VERLOUING&f=false La diocèse de Langres: histoire et statistique, Volume 3 By Charles François Roussel Curés de Magny-Fouchard. Garnier Pâris, en 1516. Charles David, du diocèse de Troyes, en 1560 où il avait pour vicaire Vincent Arnoult qui devint ensuite curé de Vauchonvilliers, et en 15C3 où il résigne. Pierre de Montseau, de 1563 à 1566 où il résigne. Nicolas Lancelot, du diocèse de Troyes, de 1566 à 1576 où il meurt. Nicolas Pichon, né à Magny-Fouchard, prêtre en 1553, d'abord vicaire dudit lieu, puis curé de 1576 à 1586 où il meurt. François Jacquot, de 1586 à 1608, puis curé de Vendeuvre. Francois Champagne, de 1608 à 1614, puis curé de Vendeuvre. François Jacquot (susdit), de 1614 à 161 o où il meurt. François Champagne (susdit), de 1615. Scipion Richer, de 1620 environ à 1630 où il résigne. Charles Richer, de 1630 environ et en 1639 où il fait valoir les droits de la fabrique sur la succession de la pieuse et charitable dame Jeanne de Verlouing Didier Corvain, en 1666. Nicolas Bailly, cordelier de Bar-sur-Aube, desservant en 1684. Benoy, curé en 1688 où il meurt. Didier Poinsot, ex-curé de Vauchonvilliers, de 1688 à 1701 où il meurt. Nicolas Mallet, né à Is-en-Bassigny vers 1665, de 1701 à 1736 où il meurt. Edme de Torcy, ex-vicaire de Puits-et-Nuisement, de 1736 à 1748 où il meurt. Jean Martinot, excuré de Ville-au-Bois, de 1748 à 1768 où il résigne, puis meurt vers 1775. Jean-BaptisteGuidon, ex-vicaire de Villy-en-Trodes, de 1768 à 1788 où il meurt. Char les-Nicolas Mutinot, né à Bar-sur-Aube en 1760, prêtre en 1783, ex-vicaire de Vendeuvre, de 1788 à 1791, fidèle et déporté. Blavoye, assermenté, en 1791. This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact."  All data should be verified. Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The following is a translation by Bing, another search engine, attached to latest IE.  It is hard to get a word for word translation of old French or any French for that matter.  But I think the substance of the extract is having to do with the relationship of superior officers with underlings and their ultimate success with Gruy-Verloin being held up as an example of exemplary service.  The term adjutant creation probably refers to his initial rank upon entering the service.  Just my thought on the matter. the majors have no company in their name, order can be used in their loads more application, and the aid-majors have the rank of lieutenant to instruct all cornettes without difficulties. In the spirit of the order these officers, always present, were intended to maintain the tradition to the regiment; they were on the spot; We have the example to the Regiment by Gruy-Verloin, m., adjutant creation, becoming major 12 April 1692 and Lieutenant-Colonel in 1713 ________________________________ From: Degruy List Administrator <listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> To: GEN DEGRUY Mailing list at Rootsweb <degruy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, July 31, 2010 1:47:00 PM Subject: [DEGRUY] help with a translation ok.... so here's the French [with accents, sorry for the garble] and following is the Google translate. As I don't believe they are really supposed to command the macaroni.... could someone Please come up with a better translation? *** les majors n'ont plus de compagnie sous leur nom, afind de pouvoir servir dans leurs charges avec plus d'application, et les aides-majors ont le rang de lieutenant pour commander à tous les cornettes sans difficultés. Dans l'esprit de l'ordonnance ces officiers, toujours présents, étaient destinés à maintenir la tradition au régiment; ils s'élevaient sur place; nous en avons l'example au régiment par m. de Gruy-Verloin, qui, aide-major à la création, devient major le 12 Avril 1692 et Lieutenant-Colonel en 1713 majors have more company in their name, inorder to serve in their offices with more enforcement, and aid-majors to the rank of lieutenant to command the macaroni without any difficulties. In the spirit of the order of these officers are always present, were intended to maintain the tradition of the regiment, they stood on the spot; we have the example of the regiment by m. Gruys-Verloin of which, adjutant to the creation, became major April 12, 1692 and Lieutenant-Colonel in 1713 This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact."  All data should be verified. Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

+SHIPS IN THE NIGHT+ >there was an architect in covington +DECADE 1960-70+ >by the name of pete livaudais we had seperate agendas +LITTLE DID WE KNOW+ >our ancient links< ^^^^^^^^^^ +MULTIPLE JACQUES LIVAUDAIS+ >will the real jacques livaudais +PLEASE STAND UP+ ^^^^^^^^^^^ +LIVAUDAIS ST. MALO CORSAIR+ >(an amazing french history >into our creole enclave<) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >as i have suggested bruno chIlliz +BRUNO=GRUYERE LINK+ >website is a good resource for +LIVAUDAIS CORSAIR HISTORY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >which relates to degruy history< inertwined w/ the marigny foucher/bore/gayarre destrehan/la vigne voisin/aufrere perry/etc... +FURTHER DOCUMENTED FACTS+ >degruy/pompadour history< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +NEW ORLEANS TO PARIS+ >it is valuable to comprehend that< +MARIE CELESTE de MARIGNY+ the new orleans creole wife of our captain +JACQUES de LIVAUDAIS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >moved to france to live in the +CASTLE OF ABEL de MARIGNY+ >custodian of architecture >for our king louis xv< ^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MADAME de POMPADOUR'S+ (google : search) +FAMOUS BROTHER+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CRUCIAL DYNAMIC+ >(livaudais/marigny/la croix/ >pompadour/degruy) ^^^^^^^^^^^ >the de livaudais/marigny daughter +PAULINE de LIVAUDAIS+ married +DANIEL du SEAU de LA CROIX+ >(emmanuel their son was< +PETIT VAL CASTLE+ >born in the marigny castle<) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ETERNAL ROMANTIC BLAZON OF THE+ +DEGRUY-POMPADOUR BOND+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(nevermind the fortune tellers truthful vision one never >forgets one's first love< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +LINKING MADAME de POMPDOUR+ (king louis xv mistress) +WITH THE DEGRUY/LA CROIX+ (antoine's widow & children) +FAMILY OF ST. CHARLES PARISH+ >degruy post death land] grant- nola ceole versailles honors +MEDALS-POSITONS+ >marigny/livaudais/la croix<) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +SYNCHRONICITY+ >additional support data< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CAPTAIN JACQUES LIVAUDIS+ >was in charge of antoine's ship on its +1738-1739+ >perilous voyage to new orleans< +ATLANTIC ICEBERGS+ >degruy/noailles/bobe/montaut< >all sick as rabid night dogs< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +NOTE: VICOMTE de NOAILLES+ >owns madame de pompadour's +SUMMER 2010+ >fountainbleu house today< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ADDITIONALLY+ >capt. livaudais/marigny provided +ANTOINE AUFRERE+ and +GERARD PERRY+ >(antoine j.b.v.v. degruy's inlaws) >with a storeship he captured +THE SAINT ANNE >which they docked in st. tammany +REMOTE JUNGLE+ >parish on the tchefuncte river< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +THIS PROVIDED A LUCRATVE+ +TRADE BACK TO FRANCE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, californa