Pardon Degruy list members, but I've got to get a message to Jerry. Hope you get this Jerry. Jerry, Someone has stolen your email and has used it for "phishing". Better talk with Bellsouth. I have gotten three of these from you just this morning. --------------- Here is the email I just received: "Hey! I'm writing this with tears in my eyes,We came down here to London,England for a short vacation and We were mugged at gun point last night at the park of the hotel where we lodged all cash,credit cards and cell were stolen off us. We've been to the US embassy and the Police here but they're not helping issues at all,Our flight leaves in less than 24hrs from now and we are having problems settling the hotel bills. The hotel manager won't let us leave until we settle the hotel bills now we freaked out. We need your help. Regards." --------------- You'll need that complete Headers ... I will cut and paste these for you if you use a different email address and contact me off the Degruy list. R

Hi, The following folks have submitted their "Degruy List Lines". Before I post an updated version I would like to see if anyone else "out there" has their line to submit. [Since we have about 60 members registered and only 23 are listed below, there must be a few who could still add their lines.] If you are one of the missing ones and you are willing to contribute, please follow the format at the bottom of this email. Please do not list living persons. Just put "Living" in the place of their names.... to protect everyone's privacy. Thanks, Renee ------------------------------------ 2] sisdegree@cox.net 3] sgilmore4@cox.net 4] vpruet@aol.com 5] cmj@acsalaska.net 6] lhkendri@bellsouth.net 7] garyb0612@aol.com 8] lmain83349@aol.com 9] rpatout@yahoo.com 10] nnhenderson@comcast.net 11] billgr40@att.net 12] mariburke@consolidated.net 13] eamcray@webtv.net 14] beebeewood@gmail.com 15] spelitir@cox.net 16] jerrysherlock@bellsouth.net 17] slideaus@bellsouth.net 18] CherylDSM@aol.com 19] lawr131@bellsouth.net 20] nancy24_2001@yahoo.com 21] Greeneyed48@aol.com 22] imbrowax@yahoo.com 23] mlhyde@san.rr.com ----------------------------------------------------- Form to use when submitting lines 5G Antoine Verloin DeGruy [& Marie Therese Aufrere] 4G Joseph Verloin Degruy [& Marianne Couturier] 3G Pierre Verloin Dumini DeGruy [& Marie Francoise Azelie Daspit St. Amand] 2G Pierre Huxelle Degruy [& Marie Cecilia Cunningham] G Albert Joseph DeGruy [& Mary Ruth] Louise Josephine DeGruy [& Frank F. Hotard] _________ & _________ Living 1] listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net

Hi I'm about to post an updated "Degruy List Lines" on the website under Reviews, but before I do this, would the person who belongs to this line contact me off list at listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net I need to add your email address and don't have it... 6G Jean Batiste Verloin de Gruy [& Marie Thereze Auffrere] 5G Antoine Dufouchar de Gruy [&Enriquette de Layssard] 4G Etienne Bernard Dufouchar de Gruy [& Azélie Amélie Bachemin] 3G Charles Dufouchar de Gruy [& Anais Verlion de Gruy] 2G Francois Paul Dufouchar De Gruy [& Mary Lee Lucy O'Reilly] G Aida Margaret de Gruy [& Wilbur Maurice Yochim] * & * * & * -------------------------------------------------------- Thanks, Renee

+AUGUST CELEBRATION+ >we leave this a.m. for a birthday getaway to laguna beach for +MY BRIDE MARIANNE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(in the meantime)< ^^^^^^^^^^ +THE LIGURIA PIECE OF YESTERDAY+ >all carefully researched< +IS FILLED W/ VALUABLE DATA+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +KNIGHTS TEMPLAR LOCUS+ >templar french origins< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >a major point is the centrality of +THE PARK OF THE ORIENT+ (locus of magny fouchard) >birthplace of the knights templar< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +IN THE TRANSCENDENT HISTORY OF+ >knights templar relic< +THE HOLY SHROUD OF JESUS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >the data i have shared clearly shows >the coordinated effort of the< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +TROYES FRATERNITY FAMILIES+ (knights templar blood) >all residing in the orient park< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +SAINT BERNARD INSPIRED+ >to preserve and protect the shroud+ +LIREY LOCUS ADJACENT+ >at lirey chapel & later st. hyppolite< >a few kilometers to the south< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +AFTER ACQUIRING THE SHROUD BY+ (gruyere counts relatives) +MARRIAGE OF CHARNEY-VERGY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >following the initial importation +de RAY CASTLE+ >of the la roche de ray from< the holy land via +CONSTANTINOPLE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^ +OUR SAVOY-BRESSE-GRUYERE BOND+ (castles at cagnes/villeneuve loubet/ antibes/vence/les baux/monaco) +TAKES US SOUTH TO SAVOY LIGURIA+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >locus of the interelated villeneuve/ +SAVOY-BRESSE-GRUYERE+ >valentinois grimaldi/angouleme/ +ANJOU-BAR FAMILIES+ >counts of provence linked to.... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FRENCH KING FRANCOIS I+ >bresse/savoy/gruyere/angouleme< +HOUSE OF VALOIS KINGS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(links of provence/albret/toulouse/ >aragon/navarre and thus our ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +PAMPLUME-NAVARRE+ >interelated w/ our verloin degruy at +CHATEAU MAGNY FOUCHARD+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >our people's ancient chateau was< +AT THE HEART OF THIS HISTORY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

+ALCHEMY OF PARADISE+ >our gruyere blood was warmed by< >the waters of the liguria riviera< @@@@@@@@@@@@@@ +BRESSE-SAVOY=LIGURIA RIVIERA+ (liguria riviera=italy/france) +LIGURIA RIVIERA=OUR PEOPLE+ >(bresse/savoy/gruyere/villeneuve/ +SOUTHERN COUSINS+ >grimaldi/valentinois/angouleme) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MIDNIGHT MUSING+ >(synchronistic modus operandi)< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >intuitively i brought a 1954 >"gourmet magazine"< recently retrieved from storage to write to you tonight. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +NOT KNOWING WHY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ 1) intuitively i open this treasure to... (for some then unknown reason) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ANDREA DORIA ADVERTISEMENT+ >(the, 1952, new queen ship of italy)< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >beautiful color photograph of elegent< +TUXEDOS-EVENING DRESSES+ >diners gathered around carving table< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +SYNCHRONISTICALLY+ >(my aunt elise ray's steamship co. was agents for the andrea doria until it tragically sank in the 1960s) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ADMIRAL ANDREA DORIA+ +ADMIRAL CHRISTOFO COLOMBO+ +ADMIRAL-BARON de BRESSE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >were the three great navigators to sail< +FRANCE-ITALY LIGURIAN RIVIERA+ >from genoa/nice/villefranche-sur-mer< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2) then i intuitively open the gourmet >magazine to page 12 to find<... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >+"LIGURIA"+< (in the gastronomic tour of italy series) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FOCUS ON GENOA & THE RIVIERA+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >to this synchronicity i must add that earlier in the afternoon i read a review of a hotel at the great +BORDIGHERA+ (palm source for all of italy) >beautiful resort on the italian riviera just across the france-italy border. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +THAT HAD BEEN THE VILLA OF THE+ >(he willed to st. joseph nuns upon his death in paris) +ARCHITECT CHARLES GARNIER+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >designer of the paris opera house (PHANTOM LEGEND) >plus some resort hotels at monaco, +INSPIRED RIVIERA SPIRIT+ >antibes and other beauty spots< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CATHERINE de BRESSE+ >my great grandmother married to< +JOHN RAY+ (of rayville and new orleans) +IS THE GENETIC MEMORY CATALYST+ +OF MY PASSION FOR LIGURIA+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +LIGURIA=ARCADIA+ >portofino, italy & villefanche, france the most beautiful ligurian ports ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +SAVOY-BRESSE-GRUY ALCHEMY+ (blood brother cousin dynamic) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MONTMORENCY DIMENSION+ i have learned that the famous french ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +GENERAL ANNE de MONTMORENCY+ >youth age >3rd man< cousin to< +FRENCH KING FRANCOIS I+ and our +COUNT MICHAEL de GRUYERE+ (google my previous essays) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >was son in law to the duke of savoy< +PHILLIPE de BRESSE+ (wife marguerite de bourbon) >knights templar/shroud of turin owner +MEROVINGIAN BLOOD+ >who built the fort at villeftanche, >giant knights templar ship and< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +DEEMED JEAN de GRUYERE THE+ (count michael's father) +GREATEST ROMAND KNIGHT+ ( order of the announciata) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ESTABLISHING JEAN AS CHIEF SAVOY+ france/england/spain/belgium holy roman empire luxembourg/hainault etc. etc. +INTERNATIONAL NEGOTIATOR+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >note: remember the vergy-gruyere family of jean's wife was head of +THE DUCHY OF HAINAULT+ >and previous owners of the holy< +SHROUD OF TURIN+ ^^^^^^^^^^^ >importantly let us not forget that< +FRENCH KING FRANCOIS I+ >cousin of michael de gruyere< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(eight years at french court training w/ montmorency & gruyere) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >WAS GRANDSON OF THE GREAT< +PHILLIPE de BRESSE+ +DUKE de SAVOY+ ^^^^^^^^^ >(charney/vergy/ray/roche/savoy/ +HOLY SHROUD OF JESUS+ >bresse/villersexel conspiracy. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (our secret alchemy matrix) +SAINT BERNARD-VERLOIN DEGRUY+ >chateau magny fouchard< +KNIGHTS TEMPLAR-ORIENT PARK+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >troyes fraternity/priory de sion< +LIREY-ST. HYPPOLITE AND+ >chambery/turin< +VALENTINOIS CHAPELS+ >+forever+< ^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

Happy Sunday, Would anyone on our Degruy list who has a Hotard connection in their gedcom please, at your convenience, contact me off list @ listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net Thanks, Renee

>this is of course from the c.c. robin's book and refers to j.b.v. degruy. +BUILDER OF THE DOMED+ +CREOLE SUGAR MILL+ gene ray

Some of you might want to check this out at Google Books because there are many references to Guise, Guiche, de Gruise, and other similar sounding/spelled names. The article is entitled "The Loves of Catherine de Bourbon" by N. Robinson and it is found in The American Magazine, Volume 15 http://books.google.com/books?output=text&id=sPIJAAAAIAAJ&dq=%22de+Gruise%22&q=guise#v=snippet&q=gruise&f=false <http://books.google.com/books?output=text&id=sPIJAAAAIAAJ&dq=%22de+Gruise%22&q=guise#v=snippet&q=gruise&f=false> I found it searching de Gruise

This is all I have... but maybe someone "out there" has the actual book and can finish the sentence: Green fields, Two Hundred Years of Louisiana Sugar: a catalog ... University of Southwestern Louisiana. Center for Louisiana Studies - 1980 - 139 pages - Snippet view A Creole named De Gruise, a descendant of one of the French officers who came out at the founding of the colony, ... M. de Gruise had heard of la Halle in Paris [the central market of Paris now known as Les Halles] and from descriptions ...

+PHOTO TREASURE LOCATED+ (cavaroc (lamothe) family) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >each day i make progress sifting through hundreds of boxes of ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +TREASURED REFERENCE DATA+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >louisiana material shoulder to shoulder w/ california books relating largely to +ARCHITECTURE & THE ARTS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (typical item) "ANCIENT CASTLES & HISTORIC MANSIONS IN SWITZERLAND" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (swiss national tourist office publication) provides photos and data on several swiss castles owned at one time by +GRUYERE & SAVOY COUNTS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +GRUYERE CASTLE+ >canton of fribourg, is of course the star< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (other family related castles) +AIGLE-CHILLON-COPPET-GRANDSON+ (google for information) +LUCENS-MORGES-NYON-ORON+ >and the very beautiful< +LA SARRAZ+ (i have written about its history) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >are all from the canton of vaud near our remote gruyere canton of fribourg ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +HABSBURG CASTLE+ >is shown in the canton aargau in< >the north of switzerland< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(more about these later)< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >the treasure of the day< +THE CAVAROC-LAMOTHE PHOTOS+ >(19th century, yellowed, >heavy photo stock) +WERE IN A LARGE ENVELOPE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +AMALIE (LAMOTHE) CAVAROC+ 1) photo of amalie (lamothe) cavaroc is a profile head view made at the STEFFENS ART STUDIO >2249 cottage grove avenue< >chicago, illinois< +DECEMBER 20, 1885+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >amalie, (my mother's mother) was a very spirited persona and this is +PARISIAN HAUTE COUTURE+ (annual paris trips) >seen via a fancy embroidered dress, silk neck ribbon and >beautifully coiffed hair< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +PLANTATION STYLE MENTOR+ >memere, as i called her, spoke fluent parisian french and was very kind to me, teaching me to read in +1936+ (louisiana history book) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MEMERE WAS ARTISTIC & HAD A+ >(cavaroc's painted and >loved folk culture) +TASTE FOR OCCULT THEORY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >she would insist that i stare into her +FOCUSED BLUE EYES+ >(which was a form of mesmerization) >when she quizzed my accounting >of one of her lost treasures<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MISPLACED HERSELF+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CHICAGO WORLDS FAIR PHOTOS+ >the 1893 chicago worlds fair was an exciting event for memere and her family as charles cavaroc had >opened his chicago store< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MEMERE'S BROTHER'S PHOTOS+ >jean cavaroc ryan whose grandfather was memere's brother +PIERRE CHARLES CAVAROC+ >has researched the cavaroc business locations in chicago carefully, will be delighted w/ two photos of >her cavaroc grandfather< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 1) +P. C. CAVAROC AT AGE 10+ (note: he looks age 14) >a standing studio portrait taken in chicago by ahlborn artist and photographer at +335 W. MADISON STREET+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >illustrates the sophisticated urban mode presented by the paris loving cavaroc +STYLISH HIGH BUTTON PARIS+ (3 outer pocket/bow tie) +DRESS SUIT W/ HIGH SOCKS+ (striped, worn over pants) >family at the time of the worlds fair<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2) +P. C. CAVAROC-BUSINESSMAN+ undated chicago seated portrait of the successful french wine importer at +URBANE-MOUSTACHE-THREE+ +PC. SUIT-PERFECT HAIR+ >approx. 45 years of age who has taken over his fathers business. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CEREMONIAL CARRIAGE PHOTO+ >a most impressive 1893 photograph is of charles cavaroc and his entire creole +OFF TO SEE THE FAIR+ >nola family atop a huge, four horse chicago carriage w/ 2 liviried +ATTENDENTS+ >(red jacket, top hat etc.)< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MEMERE AND SISTERS AT THE+ +1893 CHICAGO WORLDS FAIR+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >a candid photograph of the cavaroc >sisters having arrived at the fair<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ALL DRESSED IN FORMAL URBEN+ >tight waist cinch belts< +ATTIRE COMPLETE W/ HATS+ >suits/fancy blouses< +AND RIBBON BOW TIES+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +SYNCHRONICITY+ >one wonders if the cavarocs saw the young frank lloyd wright at the >READ HIS ACCOUNT IN< "AN AUTOBIOGRAPHY" >fair astride his spirited horse<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CONWAY FAMILY WAS THERE+ >marianne's grandparents from detroit's +GROSSE POINTE+ >were certainly dining at the next table >happily drinking cavaroc imported< +FRENCH BORDEAUX WINE+ >especially chateau lamothe< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >even john ray who pushed the nola- chicago railroad through rayville +WAS ENJOYING CAVAROC WINE+ >especially chateau de bresse< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

?+IS OUR REALITY PLANNED+? >synchronicity abounds< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +THE SUN KING, LOUIS XIV+ >was 23 years old when cardinal mazarin +1661 COLONIES BIRTH+ >died and louis took over the rule of< +LA BELLE FRANCE+ ^^^^^^^^^^ >giving reason for our being< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +KING FRANCOIS I+ >was about 20 years old when he and +COUNT MICHAEL de GRUYERE+ >went off to war in milan against the +HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE+ >his lifetime rival emperor charles v<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +OUR PEOPLE IN THE MIDST+ >villeneuve/gruyere< +OF BOTH THESE EVENTS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MIDNIGHT MUSING+ >(note as i started writing this it is 2 a.m. and i left our bed w/ +MY TWO LIVES+ >a complex, historical dream >filling my nocturnal life<). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +A STRANGE FEELING OF MISSING+ +OUT ON THE OTHER SCENARIO+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(which had the old world aura of a samuel shelabarger novel). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +DREAM vs LIFE DIMENSIONS+ >dont disregard this... remember when i had that chateau dream on queen +2ND W. WAR SCENARIO+ +AVOIDING NAZIS+ >mary #1 (now a hotel) while sleeping in the duke of edinborough's suite (plaque on the paneling) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +IN THE A.M. I DISCOVERED A+ >(common occurances)< +PARANORMAL OFFICE ABOARD+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >the queen mary had transported officers in that suite during the +2ND WORLD WAR+ ^^^^^^^^^^^ >go figure< ^^^^^^ +BACK TO FRENCH KING FRANCOIS I+ who was about 22 years old when he brought leonardo davinci to +AMBOISE TO ENLIGHTEN+ +THE FRENCH COURT+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ +THIS VISIONARY HISTORY+ >(thanks to francois >mother & sister) +FUELS MY EXISTENCE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >wizards were in big demand in the courts of europe...michael de gruyere after all had the genius of the great +CHALAMALA+ >and the english lived w/ the memory +OF THE AMAZING MERLIN+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CRYSTAL BALLS+ >are still valuable at dining tables and look forward to london/paris next +PARIS-ARSENAL+ >spring and the legendary< +ANGLO-LATIN SEERS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >the english become galvenised with visionary energy in a latin ambience +LIBRAIRE DU MERVIELLEUX+ >and by all means< +BIBLIOTHEQUE ARSENAL+ (french occult library) ^^^^^^^^^^^ +MILIEU OF OUR VISIONARY PEOPLE+ >besancon/holy shroud/chateau ray< +HUGO-FOUCHER-NODIER+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ no wonder they became legendary< +GRAND MASTERS+ >the famous/fearful pryory de sion< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +PIERRE (planchard) PLANTARD+ >(note degruy/planchards >st. charles parish<) +INFAMOUS GRAND MASTER+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(there is a cache to being infamous if it is connected to heroism... but ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +THREE PARISIANS HANGED+ >secreted documenta< >bibliotheque nationale< +BECAME A GRIM REALITY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >not to mention the international double agent georges monti thrown from the +PARIS-GENEVA NIGHT TRAIN+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(note: i have experienced the tension +aboard international night trains+ +BORDER PASSPORT CHECK+ >and remember fear in yugoslavia +SUMMER 1969+ >aboard the thesolaniki-berlin +MIDNIGHT-GRIM+ >express when the communist +RED STAR ON CAP+ >agent confiscated my passport<) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(returned w/ no thanks) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >but you would not believe the drama at the amsterdam airport +STUDENT-NO FUNDS LEFT+ >when i was informed my ticket was worthless and my return was +absolutely hopeless+ ^^^^^^^^^^^ >3 YEARS AGO LOUD BANGING ON< >2 a.m. check< >OUR COMPARTMENT DOOR< >venice-paris express< >INTRODUCED THE CONDUCTOR< >correct dating or else< >LOOKING FOR OUR EURAIL PASS<. (frontier terror syndrome) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FRENCH-SWISS FRONTIER+ >in 1969 as i was passing thru savoy on the paris-milan express, i had to be +LAUSANNE STATION+ >taken off the train by the french >conductor to buy a ticket< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >HAVING BEEN ERRONIOUSLY TOLD I COULD BUY A TICKET ON THE +MIDNIGHT EXPRESS TRAIN+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >was this scenario sheer chance..? >i was a stones throw from +G R U Y E R E S+ ^^^^^^^^ >or dear friends< +(WAS IT IN THE STARS)+ ^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

+DEEP SUMMER RADIANCE 1955+ >pre katrina/oil disaster epoch when we were young and +I N N O C E N T+ ^^^^^^^^^ +STEPHEN HAWKING COLONIES+ >(it is sobering to hear stephen hawking the great english scientist say that +SHADES OF JOHN LAW+ >we may need to colonise space as the earth may be doomed). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +HISTORY CHANNEL U.F.O.+ >programs have certainly become prolific and improved...lighting >hawkings sad assessment<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +JUNGLE RADIANCE MY FOCUS+ >sunday camera safaris< +LOST PLANTATIONS+ >french tropic syndrome< +IN 1955 SOUTHERN LOUISIANA+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ANTOINE'S AMBIENCE+ >remember, when the french arrived some of our trees were so large +PARROTS-IVORY BILLS+ >eight men were unable to place >their arms arround them< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +"LOUISIANA DEEP SOUTH"+ >"where to go< + >what to do"< +"YEAR ROUND VACATION LAND"+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >is a 1955 vintage book i have, filled w/ illustrated articles about different regions and towns in louisiana. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ALL VERY PRE-DISASTER+ >rose colored glasses< +I N N O C E N T+ ^^^^^^^^^ +JUNGLE ALCHEMY-2010+ >the following focuses on text relative to our degruy louisiana organic +TROPIQUE-MAGIQUE+ +METAPHYSIQUE+ >natural science and cultural >aesthetic history vision< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +AMBIENT-SCENARIO 1955+ 1) >"deep south is a garden. flowers grow in wild profusion in the >marshlands. deep south people >love to share their beauty". ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2) >oil,..the giants are going down to the gulf today in search of the >fabulous wealth of oil< ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(the above were on the same page) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 3) "grand isle...glamorous and exciting, is the home of the tarpon rodeo and some of the finest deep sea fishing in the world". ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +OLEANDER HOTEL+ >on the gulf of mexico< +ALL ROOMS WITH BATH+ (photo: wood building, +PALM TREES+ ^^^^^^^ 4) >grand terre island, is a fascinating remote site of the ruins of >u.s. fort livingston< ^^^^^^^^^^^ +DEGRUY AND PIRATES+ >(one wonders what etienne degruy >was doing on that lonely spot< >locus of lafitte's old camp<) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 5) >"glittering torchlight parade, fire >works w/ yummy yamettes"< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +AFRICAN YAMS+ >photo of mr. yam w/ prize winning +OPELOUSAS JUNGLE+ >bunches of large african yams< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 6) >nesting egrets in the jungles of +AVERY ISLAND PARADISE+ (perfect for gruyerens) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >acres of pungent peppers from +VERA CRUZ & YUCATAN+ >aboriginal salt mines storage of< +TABASCO HOT-SAUCE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 7) >jefferson island owned in 1790 by +LAFITTE'S BROTHER-IN-LAW+ >was known then as cote carlin< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +"DAY-NITE"+ >voudou doctor of 1923 excavated +LAFITTE GOLD TREASURE+ >while practicing his daily magic<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +GIANT ELEPHANT EARS+ >bull frogs, purple gallinules and the soup of >alligators< providing the +ALCHEMICAL GRIS GRIS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +HIGH JOHN CONQUEROR ROOT+ >specialty of jefferson island< +DAY-NITE'S GREAT TALENT+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

+MAGNY DERIVATIONS+ >(french sources)< ^^^^^^^^^ >last night it dawned on me that< +MAGNY=MARIGNY+ and +MARIGNY=MAGNY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^ >following up on this i inserted +MARIGNY / MAGNY+ >as a research focus topic and sure enough observed interchange of +MARIGNY & MAGNY+ >in various towns especially in the champagne/burgundy region near +MAGNY-FOUCHARD+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >our verloin degruy chateau town< >in eastern france near troyes< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +EXAMPLES+ 1) marigny le cahouet is 1 kilometer from the adjoining town of magny la ville ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2) >marigny sur yonne is the same +58800=58800+ >zip code as magny lormes< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(there are >many< others >not to make a pun<) ^^^^^^^^^^^ +MARIGNY=MAGNY=MANY+ >could this be the appropriate source of our english word >many< ? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MESNIL=MAGNY+ >we have learned earlier that magny fouchard was known once as +MESNIL FOUCHARD+ >to complicate things even more< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >i have also written about finding the town of>fouchers< near our town +MAGNY FOUCHARD+ >thus the fascinating combination of +MARIGNY-FOUCHERS+ >as a genealogical reference< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CHATEAU MARIGNY+ >to give strength to this reference< +MARIGNY en ORXOIS+ >the locus of chateau marigny of >abel francois poisson< +MARQUIS de MARIGNY+ >(brother of madame de pompadour)< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +IS LOCATED NEAR MAGNY FOUCHARD+ >at chateau thierry north of troyes< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(note: this might have facilitated a liaison between antoine and madame de pompadour) +MARIGNY en ORXOIS+ and +MAGNY le HONGRE+ >are two adjacent towns in this< +>MARNE< VALLEY LOCUS+ (marne=french river) ^^^^^^^^^^^ +MESNIL SURVIVES+ >i have reported two interesting factors regarding the name mesnil in the >history of magny-fouchard< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 1) there are still some towns near magny fouchard using mesnil. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2) there is a plantation house near franklin, louisiana entitled ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +DUMESNIL PLANTATION+ (as in du-mesnil) ^^^^^^^^^ >john lawrence included it in his fascinating plantation book. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +"CREOLE HOUSES"+ ^^^^^^^^^^ >highly recommended< ^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CARRE (square) MARIGNY+ >just this morning in the great magazine +PARIS CAPITALE+ (now on your newstand in english) >i read about the most beautiful outdoor terrace restaurant in paris located on >the boulevard marigny at the +CHAMPS ELYSEE+ >entitled< +PAVILLON ELYSEE LENOTRE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MARIGNY MANSION+ >as i have reported abel poisson the +MARQUIS de MARIGNY+ >arch. superintendent for french +KING LOUS XV+ >lived here and built the +ELYSEE PALACE+ ^^^^^^^^^ >now the elegent home of the< +PRESIDENT OF FRANCE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +AESTHETES & SCHOLARS+ >philatalests, scholars and aesthetes are devoted to this square for the +PARIS STAMP MARKET+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +WHERE ONE MAY FIND AN ANTIQUE+ circa 1910 before it was >destroyed (1st world war)< +POSTCARD OF MAGNY FOUCHARD+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

My librarian who is a French specialist just sent this: Please take some time to check out this outstanding French genealogy blog. It is full of links to everything French. Bonne chance! http://french-genealogy.typepad.com/.

+VOISIN & VILLARS+ >(french names to remember)< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >in our historical research certain names for various reasons, gain attention +FRENCH STARS+ >even if they are not close cousins<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +V O I S I N+ 1) the french creole voisin plantation house 10 miles above norco was a house i photographed in the +1950 DECADE+ ^^^^^^^^ >the voisin family constructed the west indies style house in about 1790-1795 >and the verloin degruy who lived on several nearby plantations must +HAVE HAD SIMILAR HOUSES+ (built during same time) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >see the illustration on page 102 of LOUISIANA ARCHITECTURE 1714-1830 >by professor fred daspit< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +TENURE OF ABOUT 180 YEARS+ >lydia voisin, descendent of the original owner, jean baptiste voisin, was living in the house when hurricane betsy blew the roof off in the 1960s. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +VOISIN-DEGRUY-DUSIEAU+- +DUMINI GLAPION+ >as early as 1784 these creole planters were recorded buying & selling +SALE OF NOV. 14+ >cattle in saint charles parish<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >notice the glapion was dumini-glapion and the degruy was +PIERRE DUMINI-DEGRUY+ >a very profound historical link<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +VOISIN de LA VERGNE+ >recently a connection was found of the house of la vergne to that of voisin +ST. MALO CORSAIRS+ >to draw the voisin closer via our +LIVAUDAIS COUSINS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ +VOISIN ECCENTRIC GENIUS+ 2) gabriel voisin eccentric french genius automobile designer was a most +FASCINATING PERSONA+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +RARE VISIONARY DESIGNS+ >if jean baptiste valentin verloin degruy could have selected a motor car it (most likely would) +HAVE BEEN A VOISIN AERODYNE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (check it on the internet) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +LIKE ETTORE BUGATTI'S CARS+ >fabulous design art< +VOISIN AUTOMOBILES WERE+ >eccentric french< +WORKS OF SHEAR GENIUS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +VOISIN CASTLE+ 3) before the voisin family rose to fame in paris they were very powerful +KNIGHTS TEMPLAR+ >grand masters w/ impressive ancient +FORTIFIED CASTLE+ >that i photographed at our magical +RENNES LE CHATEAU+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +DUKE de VILLARS+ (ancient savoy history) >the connection between the gruyere +HABSBURG CONNECTION+ >and the house of villars is important +IN GRUY EUROPEAN HISTORY+. (lorraine-vaugremont also) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +VILLARS DUBREUIL+ >claude joseph villars dubreuil was the king's famous & powerful builder in +18TH CENTURY LOUISIANA+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >the greatest employer of slaves, villars- dubreuil built many colonial buildings >including antoine's military barracks<, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +HIS HUGE EARLY CONCESSION+ +NEAR OUR DESTREHAN+ >indicate his power back at the offices >of the indies in paris palais royale.< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FRENCH-SWISS TREASURER+ >it is important to note the colonial nola treasurer then was grondel +A SWISS GUARD CAPTAIN+ (influential, like pierre couturier) ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ +JEAN BAPTISTE DESTRHAN+ >our equally powerful cousin w/ history at versailles palace took this role >over later from grondel<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >IT IS SYNCHRONISTIC THAT VILLARS- DUBREUIL DUG OUR DEGRUY (opposite napoleon avenue >round sugar mill<) +PLANTATION CANAL+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >later used for a smuggling history >involving the lafitte brothers< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >to be continued.... gene ray, san diego, california

This is sad, but happens every summer while teens are on break, parents have no idea what they are up to. Will have to check cemeteries also.That is one of their targets also. On Aug 9, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Degruy List Administrator wrote: > That is pathetic, disgusting and totally irrational. > > LESTER KENDRICK wrote: >> We live in sad times >> >> St. John the Baptist Church, Edgar, La. >> Over-night hours of Juy 23-24, 2010, vandalism occurred by using >> stones about >> the size of a junior foot-ball to crash through the protective >> exterior glass >> and stained-glass windows and landed inside the church, which was >> built in 1920. >> These new stones can only be found on the ferry landing. They would >> have had to >> walk a long way or they had a car. >> Three historic stained-glass windows behind the alter of St. John >> The Baptist >> Church in Edgar were badly damaged. Several stones were thrown >> through the >> window depicting St. John the Baptist, the church's patron saint. >> >> Clarion Herald, August 7, 2010 >> >> >> Helen Kendrick >> This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed >> to be "fact." All data should be verified. >> Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> >> > > This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed > to be "fact." All data should be verified. > Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

That is pathetic, disgusting and totally irrational. LESTER KENDRICK wrote: > We live in sad times > > St. John the Baptist Church, Edgar, La. > Over-night hours of Juy 23-24, 2010, vandalism occurred by using stones about > the size of a junior foot-ball to crash through the protective exterior glass > and stained-glass windows and landed inside the church, which was built in 1920. > These new stones can only be found on the ferry landing. They would have had to > walk a long way or they had a car. > Three historic stained-glass windows behind the alter of St. John The Baptist > Church in Edgar were badly damaged. Several stones were thrown through the > window depicting St. John the Baptist, the church's patron saint. > > Clarion Herald, August 7, 2010 > > > Helen Kendrick > This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact." All data should be verified. > Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

We live in sad times St. John the Baptist Church, Edgar, La. Over-night hours of Juy 23-24, 2010, vandalism occurred by using stones about the size of a junior foot-ball to crash through the protective exterior glass and stained-glass windows and landed inside the church, which was built in 1920. These new stones can only be found on the ferry landing. They would have had to walk a long way or they had a car. Three historic stained-glass windows behind the alter of St. John The Baptist Church in Edgar were badly damaged. Several stones were thrown through the window depicting St. John the Baptist, the church's patron saint. Clarion Herald, August 7, 2010 Helen Kendrick

note: in yesterdays message please >understand i did not include< +ALL GRUYERE NOBLE LINKS+ such as the vergy link w/ +CHARLEMAGNE+ ^^^^^^^^^ >our blood is multivalent< +MERO & CARO+ +LINGIAN+ ^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

+GRUYERE FAMILY LINKS VERIFIED+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >from the research of mrs de koven we know the followng gruyere family links are correct. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 1) DUKES OF SAVOY 2) DUKES OF LORRAINE 3) COUNTS OF THOIRE 4) COUNTS OF VILLARS 5) COUNTS OF GENEVA 6) COUNTS OF JOINVILLE 7) BARONS OF AUBONNE i also checked the following... 8) AIGREMONT yes, in 1425 aigremont passed to count anthony gruyere ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(there was also a link w/the savoy) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >ruins of aigremont castle can be >googled on the internet plus their very interesting history ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 9) VAUGREMONT yes, via the famous habsburg.. plus the lorraine and villars there are gruyere links >savoy links as well< ^^^^^^^^^^^ >they were counts w/ castles in the french comte and swiss. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 10) JACQUET yes, the coat of arms can be googled...they were found in geneva, lausanne & montreux. (also the french comte) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +SALIATO RED WINE INDICATES+ >swiss/savoy/gruyere< ANCIENT PATRICIAN ORIGINS. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california