Thank you Orelie Marguerite is the Daughter of Dumini Verloin and Charlotte Falgout born Sept 11, 1825 --- On Fri, 8/20/10, Orelie Dugruise <greybeard1948@yahoo.com> wrote: > From: Orelie Dugruise <greybeard1948@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [DEGRUY] The children of Joseph and Adeline and Ceralise > To: degruy@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, August 20, 2010, 9:51 PM > Every thing we have we downloaded to > the web site . >   > Orelie Dugruise > > --- On Fri, 8/20/10, imbrowax <imbrowax@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > From: imbrowax <imbrowax@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [DEGRUY] The children of Joseph and Adeline > and Ceralise > To: degruy@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, August 20, 2010, 3:05 PM > > > Rene,  I recall the name Auguste and I don't remember  > Marguerite Verloin, but it could be they died at a young > age. I'll try to find out more. This is a guess on my part. > > > I will check back when I know more about those 2 names > > > Maybe someone else like Allen or Orelie might know. > > > --- On Fri, 8/20/10, Degruy List Administrator <listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > > From: Degruy List Administrator <listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> > > Subject: [DEGRUY] The children of Joseph  and Adeline > and Ceralise > > To: degruy@rootsweb.com > > Date: Friday, August 20, 2010, 2:46 PM > > Did Joseph and Ceralise have these > > children? > > Marie Letitia, Alicia and Sara Irma Eve > > > > What about the children of Joseph and Adeline Diaz? > > I had Auguste, Joseph Verloin, Josephine Verloin, > > Marguerite Verloin, > > Victorin, Augustave and Victoria? > > > > Please let me know if there are mistakes here. > > > > Thanks > > R > > > > > > > > > > > > > > imbrowax wrote: > > > Yes, He married Ceralise Autin and had 3 children > with > > her and 5 with Adeline > > > > > > It's Augustive and Delvina that had 10 children > > > > > > --- On Fri, 8/20/10, Degruy List Administrator > <listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> > > wrote: > > > > > >    > > > > This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages > cannot be > > assumed to be "fact."  All data should be verified. > > Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > >       > > > This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be > assumed to be "fact."  All data should be verified. > Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > >       > This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be > assumed to be "fact."  All data should be verified. > Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Responding to you off list, Betty. When everything is straightened out, we can post for list. imbrowax wrote: > In researching my notes: I have Auguste 1878 died at age 10 > > In your email you mention Auguste married to Marie Dervina Florestan, I think that should be Augustave married to Marie Dervina Champagne daughter of Joseph Florestan Champagne and Marie Jeune-Reine Zeringue. >

Every thing we have we downloaded to the web site .   Orelie Dugruise --- On Fri, 8/20/10, imbrowax <imbrowax@yahoo.com> wrote: From: imbrowax <imbrowax@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [DEGRUY] The children of Joseph and Adeline and Ceralise To: degruy@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, August 20, 2010, 3:05 PM Rene,  I recall the name Auguste and I don't remember  Marguerite Verloin, but it could be they died at a young age. I'll try to find out more. This is a guess on my part. I will check back when I know more about those 2 names Maybe someone else like Allen or Orelie might know. --- On Fri, 8/20/10, Degruy List Administrator <listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> wrote: > From: Degruy List Administrator <listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> > Subject: [DEGRUY] The children of Joseph  and Adeline and Ceralise > To: degruy@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, August 20, 2010, 2:46 PM > Did Joseph and Ceralise have these > children? > Marie Letitia, Alicia and Sara Irma Eve > > What about the children of Joseph and Adeline Diaz? > I had Auguste, Joseph Verloin, Josephine Verloin, > Marguerite Verloin, > Victorin, Augustave and Victoria? > > Please let me know if there are mistakes here. > > Thanks > R > > > > > > > imbrowax wrote: > > Yes, He married Ceralise Autin and had 3 children with > her and 5 with Adeline > > > > It's Augustive and Delvina that had 10 children > > > > --- On Fri, 8/20/10, Degruy List Administrator <listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > > >    > > This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be > assumed to be "fact."  All data should be verified. > Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >       This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact."  All data should be verified. Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Betty. I think this is an Excellent example of how the descendants of a particular line might have a lot better luck on straightening out confusions than those from another - or more distant line; which supports our attempts to share our direct lineages. BTW, I have Auguste married to Marie Dervina Florestan, but I have nothing more on Marguerite than her birth date of 6 Dec 1857. I suspect Orelie may have given this information on your branch to me a couple of years ago. R imbrowax wrote: > Rene, I recall the name Auguste and I don't remember Marguerite Verloin, but it could be they died at a young age. I'll try to find out more. This is a guess on my part. > > I will check back when I know more about those 2 names > > > Maybe someone else like Allen or Orelie might know. >

Did Joseph and Ceralise have these children? Marie Letitia, Alicia and Sara Irma Eve What about the children of Joseph and Adeline Diaz? I had Auguste, Joseph Verloin, Josephine Verloin, Marguerite Verloin, Victorin, Augustave and Victoria? Please let me know if there are mistakes here. Thanks R imbrowax wrote: > Yes, He married Ceralise Autin and had 3 children with her and 5 with Adeline > > It's Augustive and Delvina that had 10 children > > --- On Fri, 8/20/10, Degruy List Administrator <listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> wrote: > >

The partial sentence posted came from an entry by Samuel Wilson, Jr., FAIA, entitled "Architecture of Early Sugar Plantations" in the "Green Fields" book referenced. Wilson attributes that particular quote to the 1966 translation of the 1807 work by C.C.Robin, "Voyage to Louisiana". I have a hazy recollection that this may have been posted here some time ago, but the complete sentence is: "A Creole named De Gruise, a descendant of one of the French officers who came out at the founding of the colony, without instruction, but by native ability, found that an angular edifice was both displeasing to the eye and wasteful of material, but circular construction was too difficult for the local colonial laborers. M. de Gruise had heard of la Halle in Paris [the central market of Paris now known as Les Halles] and from descriptions of it, he had built in brick two leagues from the city, on his house, a rotunda so like it, that on seeing it I expressed astonishment. I was even more astounded upon learning how M. de Gruise had conceived and executed the work." -----Original Message----- From: degruy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:degruy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Degruy List Administrator Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 8:49 PM To: GEN DEGRUY Mailing list at Rootsweb Subject: [DEGRUY] snippet view from Google Books This is all I have... but maybe someone "out there" has the actual book and can finish the sentence: Green fields, Two Hundred Years of Louisiana Sugar: a catalog ... University of Southwestern Louisiana. Center for Louisiana Studies - 1980 - 139 pages - Snippet view A Creole named De Gruise, a descendant of one of the French officers who came out at the founding of the colony, ... M. de Gruise had heard of la Halle in Paris [the central market of Paris now known as Les Halles] and from descriptions ... This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact." All data should be verified. Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In researching my notes: I have Auguste 1878 died at age 10 In your email you mention Auguste married to Marie Dervina Florestan, I think that should be Augustave married to Marie Dervina Champagne daughter of Joseph Florestan Champagne and Marie Jeune-Reine Zeringue. --- On Fri, 8/20/10, Degruy List Administrator <listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> wrote: > From: Degruy List Administrator <listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> > Subject: [DEGRUY] Auguste and Marguerite > To: degruy@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, August 20, 2010, 3:29 PM > Thanks, Betty. I think this is an > Excellent example of how the > descendants of a particular line might have a lot better > luck on > straightening out confusions than those from another - or > more distant > line; which supports our attempts to share our direct > lineages. > BTW, I have Auguste married to Marie Dervina Florestan, but > I have > nothing more on Marguerite than her birth date of 6 Dec > 1857. > > I suspect Orelie may have given this information on your > branch to me a > couple of years ago. > > R > > > > imbrowax wrote: > > Rene,  I recall the name Auguste and I don't > remember  Marguerite Verloin, but it could be they died > at a young age. I'll try to find out more. This is a guess > on my part. > >  > > I will check back when I know more about those 2 names > > > > > > > Maybe someone else like Allen or Orelie might know. > >    > > This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be > assumed to be "fact."  All data should be verified. > Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

OK... Let's get this straightened out. I'll give what I have and if any of you have something different, please help us make sure everything is correct. Joseph Dumini Verloin DeGruy [son of Joseph Verloin DeGruy & Marianne Couturier] who was married to Carlotta [Charlotte] Falgout [dau of George Antoine "Beaumont" Falgout and Marguerite Marie Chauvin] had 7 children: Marie Laura married to Leon Picou Joseph Dumini Verloin married to Adeline Diaz Marguerite Virginie married to Joseph Picou Charlotte Celina married to Athenore Guidroz Marie Letitia Verloin married to Henri Hippolyte Michelet Marianne Hermina Verlain [Verloin?] married to Justin Champagne Marie Pamela Verloin married to Hermogene Picou & Jean Celestin Is that what you all have? Question: Was Joseph Dumini married to anyone else besides Adeline Diaz? Did he have 7 or 10 children? Please let me know if there are mistakes here. R imbrowax wrote: > Marie Laura Degruise and Charlotte Celina Degruise, are 2 of Joseph Dumini Verloin Degruise sisters. I think Bill decends from Laura and Robin from Celina. Please correct me if I am wrong > >

Rene, I recall the name Auguste and I don't remember Marguerite Verloin, but it could be they died at a young age. I'll try to find out more. This is a guess on my part. I will check back when I know more about those 2 names Maybe someone else like Allen or Orelie might know. --- On Fri, 8/20/10, Degruy List Administrator <listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> wrote: > From: Degruy List Administrator <listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> > Subject: [DEGRUY] The children of Joseph and Adeline and Ceralise > To: degruy@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, August 20, 2010, 2:46 PM > Did Joseph and Ceralise have these > children? > Marie Letitia, Alicia and Sara Irma Eve > > What about the children of Joseph and Adeline Diaz? > I had Auguste, Joseph Verloin, Josephine Verloin, > Marguerite Verloin, > Victorin, Augustave and Victoria? > > Please let me know if there are mistakes here. > > Thanks > R > > > > > > > imbrowax wrote: > > Yes, He married Ceralise Autin and had 3 children with > her and 5 with Adeline > > > > It's Augustive and Delvina that had 10 children > > > > --- On Fri, 8/20/10, Degruy List Administrator <listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > > >    > > This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be > assumed to be "fact."  All data should be verified. > Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Yes, He married Ceralise Autin and had 3 children with her and 5 with Adeline It's Augustive and Delvina that had 10 children --- On Fri, 8/20/10, Degruy List Administrator <listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> wrote: > From: Degruy List Administrator <listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> > Subject: [DEGRUY] Straightening out the children of Joseph Dumeni DeGruy and Carlotta Falgout > To: degruy@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, August 20, 2010, 1:23 PM > OK... Let's get this straightened > out. I'll give what I have and if any > of you have something different, please help us make sure > everything is > correct. > > Joseph Dumini Verloin DeGruy [son of Joseph Verloin DeGruy > & Marianne > Couturier] who was married to Carlotta [Charlotte] Falgout > [dau of > George Antoine "Beaumont" Falgout and Marguerite Marie > Chauvin] had 7 > children: > > Marie Laura married to Leon Picou > Joseph Dumini Verloin married to Adeline Diaz > Marguerite Virginie married to Joseph Picou > Charlotte Celina married to Athenore Guidroz > Marie Letitia Verloin married to Henri Hippolyte Michelet > Marianne Hermina Verlain [Verloin?] married to Justin > Champagne > Marie Pamela Verloin married to Hermogene Picou & Jean > Celestin > > Is that what you all have? > > Question:  Was Joseph Dumini married to anyone else > besides Adeline > Diaz? Did he have 7 or 10 children? > > Please let me know if there are mistakes here. > > R > > > > imbrowax wrote: > > Marie Laura Degruise and Charlotte Celina > Degruise,  are 2 of Joseph Dumini Verloin Degruise > sisters. I think Bill decends from Laura and Robin from > Celina.   Please correct me if I am wrong > > > >    > > > This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be > assumed to be "fact."  All data should be verified. > Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Let me see if I've gotten this correctly, Betty... using your submission .... see below .... My inserts are in caps to distinguish from yours... (I'm not screaming at you ;->): imbrowax wrote: > Hello Rene and Members > > I also am curious about other family members and like hearing some of > their stories. > > I knew Orelie and I have been in contact with him by phone. > Bill and Robin are also decendent from Joseph [JOSEPH VERLOIN DEGRUY > ]and Charlotte [CHARLOTTE FALGOUT], one generation back. YOU SAY ONE GENERATION BACK , BUT ACCORDING TO YOUR SUBMISSION THEY WOULD BE 4G [CONFUSED] > > I don't have much stories on the Degruise family. I may be able to > find a picture of Augustave Degruise and Delvina Champange (1892) > [YOUR 2G], if it is of interest to any one.[PHOTOGRAPHS ARE ALWAYS OF > INTEREST. WISH WE HAD MORE!!!] > > My great grandfather [AUGUSTAVE?] died at age 44. His eldest son was > 14 when he died. His widow [DELVINA?]was 33 when he died. She was left > with 10 children, the youngest being a few weeks old. (Hard times) Her > elder son, my gramdpa [GUSTAVE MARRIED TO AZILDA?], helped her raise > his siblings. They lived in Lafourche parish. My grandpa's sisters > married and moved in the New Orleans area. His 2 brothers stayed in > the Lafourche and Terrebonne area. > > I look forward to hearing from others and sharing. Thanks Betty >

Marie Laura Degruise and Charlotte Celina Degruise, are 2 of Joseph Dumini Verloin Degruise sisters. I think Bill decends from Laura and Robin from Celina. Please correct me if I am wrong --- On Fri, 8/20/10, Degruy List Administrator <listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> wrote: > From: Degruy List Administrator <listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [DEGRUY] testing how Degruy List Lines can be of service > To: degruy@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, August 20, 2010, 11:52 AM > Let me see if I've gotten this > correctly, Betty... using your submission > .... see below .... My inserts are in caps to distinguish > from yours... > (I'm not screaming at you  ;->): > > imbrowax wrote: > > Hello Rene and Members > > > > I also am curious about other family members and like > hearing some of > > their stories. > > > > I knew Orelie and I have been in contact with him by > phone. > > Bill and Robin are also decendent from Joseph [JOSEPH > VERLOIN DEGRUY > > ]and Charlotte [CHARLOTTE FALGOUT], one generation > back. > YOU SAY ONE GENERATION BACK , BUT ACCORDING TO YOUR > SUBMISSION THEY > WOULD BE 4G [CONFUSED] > > > > I don't have much stories on the Degruise family. I > may be able to > > find a picture of Augustave Degruise and Delvina > Champange (1892) > > [YOUR 2G], if it is of interest to any > one.[PHOTOGRAPHS ARE ALWAYS OF > > INTEREST. WISH WE HAD MORE!!!] > > > > My great grandfather [AUGUSTAVE?] died at age 44. His > eldest son was > > 14 when he died. His widow [DELVINA?]was 33 when he > died. She was left > > with 10 children, the youngest being a few weeks old. > (Hard times) Her > > elder son, my gramdpa [GUSTAVE MARRIED TO AZILDA?], > helped her raise > > his siblings. They lived in Lafourche parish. My > grandpa's sisters > > married and moved in the New Orleans area. His 2 > brothers stayed in > > the Lafourche and Terrebonne area. > > > > I look forward to hearing from others and sharing. > Thanks Betty > > > > > This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be > assumed to be "fact."  All data should be verified. > Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Hello Rene and Members I also am curious about other family members and like hearing some of their stories. I knew Orelie and I have been in contact with him by phone. Bill and Robin are also decendent from Joseph and Charlotte, one generation back. I don't have much stories on the Degruise family. I may be able to find a picture of Augustave Degruise and Delvina Champange (1892), if it is of interest to any one. My great grandfather died at age 44. His eldest son was 14 when he died. His widow was 33 when he died. She was left with 10 children, the youngest being a few weeks old. (Hard times) Her elder son, my gramdpa, helped her raise his siblings. They lived in Lafourche parish. My grandpa's sisters married and moved in the New Orleans area. His 2 brothers stayed in the Lafourche and Terrebonne area. I look forward to hearing from others and sharing. Thanks Betty --- On Thu, 8/19/10, Degruy List Administrator <listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> wrote: > From: Degruy List Administrator <listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> > Subject: [DEGRUY] testing how Degruy List Lines can be of service > To: "GEN DEGRUY Mailing list at Rootsweb" <degruy@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 4:55 PM > Hello List, > > I'm a little curious to see how you all are handling this > collection of  > Degruy descendant branches. > > Here's a little experiment to see how our Degruy list lines > can be of > service. > > I note that several of you [nancy24_2001@yahoo.com  >   > imbrowax@yahoo.com   dugruise@charter.net] > descend from Joseph Degruy and Adeline Diaz. > G5 7th Jean Baptiste Degruy & Marie Therese Aufrere > G4 6th Joseph Verloin Degruise & Marie Couturier > G3 5th Duminie Verloin Degruise & Charlotte Falgout > G2 4th Joseph Dumini Degruise & Adeline Diaz > > So my question is.... did you three know each other before > this > Degruy@Rootsweb.com > list? > Did you know that you each came from the same branch of > descent? > Will knowing this encourage you to confer with each other > and compare > notes on your shared heritage? > Will you check with each other to see if there are any > shared family > stories about your line? > > And a question for everyone: What do you think about the > potential for > using the list lines in this way? > Have you looked to see who else on the list is close to > your particular > line of descent? > Can you think of any other possibilities for advancing our > mutual > investigation of our heritage by conferring based on these > mutualities? > > I'm wondering what might happen if all those from a > particular branch > would work together in fleshing out as much information on > that > particular branch as possible. Theoretically, at the end, > we could > simply combine all the various results from all the various > lines. In > this way much more might be accomplished than if one or two > people try > to do Every Single Individual....all by themselves. > > Anyone have any ideas about all of this? > > R > This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be > assumed to be "fact."  All data should be verified. > Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

At first I had a very hard time finding out any information on the De Gruy line, but now I am sometimes overwhelmed with all the information I have. My oldest son has an auto glass business in La Place and on numerous occasions, people go into the shop and ask information as they are either De Gruy's or, married to one. They leave a phone number and I call them and we share information. One thing I am very curious about is that I would love to know what Antoine looked like. The picture of Charles De Gruy on the website shows he had the same outstanding blue eyes as my husband, but, I've come across quite a few De Gruy's who have brown eyes. I met Lou's son at a De Gruy reunion and he and my youngest son could pass for brothers - they are 3 years apart in age. I don't remember the color of his eyes, but all my children have blue eyes. I recently met another DE Gruy descendant at the opening of a small restaurant in this area. It simply amazes me at times. I find it very interesting to know some of these things, especially after I read the excerpts about Degruise recently. I try to incorporate all the lines on my computer, knowing someday I may meet some of them which would be great. sd ---- Degruy List Administrator <listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> wrote: > Hello List, > > I'm a little curious to see how you all are handling this collection of > Degruy descendant branches. > > Here's a little experiment to see how our Degruy list lines can be of > service. > > I note that several of you [nancy24_2001@yahoo.com > imbrowax@yahoo.com dugruise@charter.net] > descend from Joseph Degruy and Adeline Diaz. > G5 7th Jean Baptiste Degruy & Marie Therese Aufrere > G4 6th Joseph Verloin Degruise & Marie Couturier > G3 5th Duminie Verloin Degruise & Charlotte Falgout > G2 4th Joseph Dumini Degruise & Adeline Diaz > > So my question is.... did you three know each other before this > Degruy@Rootsweb.com list? > Did you know that you each came from the same branch of descent? > Will knowing this encourage you to confer with each other and compare > notes on your shared heritage? > Will you check with each other to see if there are any shared family > stories about your line? > > And a question for everyone: What do you think about the potential for > using the list lines in this way? > Have you looked to see who else on the list is close to your particular > line of descent? > Can you think of any other possibilities for advancing our mutual > investigation of our heritage by conferring based on these mutualities? > > I'm wondering what might happen if all those from a particular branch > would work together in fleshing out as much information on that > particular branch as possible. Theoretically, at the end, we could > simply combine all the various results from all the various lines. In > this way much more might be accomplished than if one or two people try > to do Every Single Individual....all by themselves. > > Anyone have any ideas about all of this? > > R > This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact." All data should be verified. > Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List, I'm a little curious to see how you all are handling this collection of Degruy descendant branches. Here's a little experiment to see how our Degruy list lines can be of service. I note that several of you [nancy24_2001@yahoo.com imbrowax@yahoo.com dugruise@charter.net] descend from Joseph Degruy and Adeline Diaz. G5 7th Jean Baptiste Degruy & Marie Therese Aufrere G4 6th Joseph Verloin Degruise & Marie Couturier G3 5th Duminie Verloin Degruise & Charlotte Falgout G2 4th Joseph Dumini Degruise & Adeline Diaz So my question is.... did you three know each other before this Degruy@Rootsweb.com list? Did you know that you each came from the same branch of descent? Will knowing this encourage you to confer with each other and compare notes on your shared heritage? Will you check with each other to see if there are any shared family stories about your line? And a question for everyone: What do you think about the potential for using the list lines in this way? Have you looked to see who else on the list is close to your particular line of descent? Can you think of any other possibilities for advancing our mutual investigation of our heritage by conferring based on these mutualities? I'm wondering what might happen if all those from a particular branch would work together in fleshing out as much information on that particular branch as possible. Theoretically, at the end, we could simply combine all the various results from all the various lines. In this way much more might be accomplished than if one or two people try to do Every Single Individual....all by themselves. Anyone have any ideas about all of this? R

+"CLOAK OF THE ILLUMINATI"+ >by william henry< >i purchased this special book from our closest bookstore (bookstar) the day +SYNCHRONOCITY+ >it was announced barnes & noble +UNKNOWN TO ME+ >its owner was in financial trouble >a sad reflection of our times< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >i mention this because i also purchased "ATLANTIS RISING" >an excellent magazine devoted to +FUTURE SCIENCE+ +ANCIENT MYSTERIES+ and +UNEXPLAINED ANOMALIES+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >i rarely purchase 2 items in 1 day but you will see why i was so >intuitively compelled< ^^^^^^^^^^^^ +WILLIAM HENRY IS MUCH RESPECTED+ >merovingian/dagobert interest< +ON THE WHITLEY STRIEBER WEBSITE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +KING OF THE HOUSE OF FISH+ >william henry defines the name dagobert as revealing the names devine origins +DAG=FISH & BERT=MERU (KING)+ >thus< +DAGOBERT=KING OF THE FISH+ (fish associated w/ christianity) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MEROVINGIAN+ >is defined as king merovee being the +MER=SEA+ >spawn of a giant quinotaur fish< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +"THE RED SERPENT"+ >french national library< +SECRETED SION DOCUMENT+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >our illustrious and important ancestor +MARGUERITE DAGOBERT+ >was smiling as i automatically opened (STILL IN BOOKSTORE) >william henry's book to the page w/ an illustration of a ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MEROVINGIAN SCULPTURE+ >showing a serpent on a palm tree w/ a knight's templar cross on each side of the tree ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MEROVINGIANS USED THE SERPENT+ (french tropic syndrome) +AS A SYMBOL OF JESUS CHRIST+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +PRIORY deSION-R.L.C. DRAMA+ >when i read this in william henry's book >i was reminded of the discussion in >the book "holy blood holy grail" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ of >+"LE SERPENT ROUGE"+< >a merovingiam referenced litirary work +13 EXELLENT PROSE POEMS+ >secretly deposited in the french national +RENNES LE CHATEAU LINK+ >library after which the three authors were found hanged in paris in a >SPAN OF ONLY 24 HOURS< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >for us with dagobert merovingian< +VALENTIN VERLOIN deGRUY+ >knights templar/sion blood history< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +THE CRUX OF OUR RADIANT MYSTERY+ >appears rather magically again< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 1) MEROVINGIAN DYNASTY 2) KING DAGOBERT II 3) KNIGHTS TEMPLAR 3) RENNES LE CHATEAU 4) REVEREND SAUNIERE 5) VOISIN-BLANCHEFORT CASTLE 6) NICHOLAS POUSSIN 7) "SHEPHERDS OF ARCADIA" 8) STENAY FOREST 9) PRIORY DE SION 10) GISORS CRUSADES CASTLE >for starters< ^^^^^^^ >our merovingian blood was an alchemy< >possessing tanscendent ramifications< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ANALYTICAL SUMMERY+ >our descendence from king dagobert II places us in the special merovingian >heritage of european families< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +DEDICATED TO RESTORATION OF+ +MEROVINGIAN THRONES+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >bouillon/lusignan/habsburg/lorraine brienne/savoy/voisin/blanchefort ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >are some additional families linked< >to our intimate group< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >VILLENEUVE-RICHEBOURG-PAMPLUME >chateau magny fouchard< >VERLOING-AULNAY-BOSSANCOURT >burgundy/swiss links< >GRUY(ERE)-VERGY-ROCHE-PERRY VALENTIN-GRISON-RAY-ROY ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >to name an outline few< +SOME LINKED TO CHARLEMAGNE+ >(see the latest euro-royals magazine, >published in holland it reminds >us of our vital flanders ties<) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +VERGY-HAINAULT-LUXEMBOURG+ right into the park of the orient +MONTMORENCY-LUXE+ >w/ the duke of luxembourg< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +GRAND ORIENT LODGE+ >(verloin degruy famed neighbor de +CHATEAU VENDEUVRE+ >montmorency was the french king's >great general in the low countries<) >(COL. VERLOIN deGRUY GLORY)< >order of saint louis award< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +BRIENNE-LUSIGNAN-SAVOY+ +VERGY-ROCHE-ROY+ +LUXEMBOURG-GRUYERE+ (holy shroud/orient park link) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

Here's an article about this particular email scam at cnn.com: <http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/03/28/greene.email.scam/index.html>

This happened to an acquaintance of mine, except the email was from Cardiff Wales. In that case, emailed her (didn't have a phone number), which I have also done with Jerry. She emailed back, indicating that she must have had some control over her email. Perhaps they popped her email. ~Bonnie

I have a friend that this happened to....exactly the same letter....the only way to contact her after I got this e mail was by phone. She no longer had any control over her e mail account. Cheryl In a message dated 8/18/2010 8:49:27 A.M. Central Daylight Time, listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net writes: Pardon Degruy list members, but I've got to get a message to Jerry. Hope you get this Jerry. Jerry, Someone has stolen your email and has used it for "phishing". Better talk with Bellsouth. I have gotten three of these from you just this morning. --------------- Here is the email I just received: "Hey! I'm writing this with tears in my eyes,We came down here to London,England for a short vacation and We were mugged at gun point last night at the park of the hotel where we lodged all cash,credit cards and cell were stolen off us. We've been to the US embassy and the Police here but they're not helping issues at all,Our flight leaves in less than 24hrs from now and we are having problems settling the hotel bills. The hotel manager won't let us leave until we settle the hotel bills now we freaked out. We need your help. Regards." --------------- You'll need that complete Headers ... I will cut and paste these for you if you use a different email address and contact me off the Degruy list. R This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact." All data should be verified. Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh Dear.... I don't have his phone number. Maybe someone "down there" with a current phone directory can give him a call for us. [I'm assuming he lives in NOLA... but he may not] Thanks Cheryl R CherylDSM@aol.com wrote: > I have a friend that this happened to....exactly the same letter....the > only way to contact her after I got this e mail was by phone. She no longer > had any control over her e mail account. > > Cheryl > >