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    1. [DEGRUY] Irma Neyrey DeGruy Obit
    2. LESTER KENDRICK
    3. 1990-DeGruy-Irma Neyrey DeGruy, on Friday, November 2, 1990 at 7:40 a.m. Wife of the late Harold Verloin DeGruy. Mother of Constance DeGruy Burkenstock, Yvonne DeGruy Gonuecheau, Harold J. V. DeGruy, Jr. Sister of the late Marion, August and Henry Neyrey. Also survived by 8 grandchildren and 22 great-grandchildren. Age 84 years. A native of New Orleans, LA and a resident of River Ridge, LA. Services were held on Saturday, November 3, 1990 at 10 a.m. from Leitz Eagan Funeral Home Chapel, 4747 Veterans Blvd., near Clearview. A Mass of Christian Burial was held in Leitz-Eagan Chapel. Interment was in St. Louis No. 3 Cemetery. Times Picayune Newspaper, New Orleans, La. November 4, 1990, B4, c4 Note: (Joseph) Theolphile Verloin DeGruy and (Josephine) Felicite Anais DeCirce Foucher Gabriel Verloin DeGruy and Corinne Jeanne Yvonne Mazerat Harold Verloin DeGruy and Irma Neyrey Helen K

    09/28/2010 01:36:17
    1. [DEGRUY] August Richard Pradillo, Sr. Obit
    2. LESTER KENDRICK
    3. 1997-Pradillo-August Richard Pradillo, Sr. on Saturday, December 6, 1997 at 1:14 p.m. Age 85 years. Beloved husband of Marie Louise Verloin deGruy Pradillo. Son of the late August Edward and Anita deBen Pradillo. Father of August Richard Pradillo, Jr., Marie Louise Pradillo Lopez and Carmen Lynne Pradillo Romero. Brother of Anita Pradillo Stafford, Helen Pradillo Posey and the late Earl Louis Pradillo. Also survived by seven grandchildren and two great grandchildren. Private Funeral Services were held at Lake Lawn Metairie Funeral Home Chapel on Monday, December 8, 1997. Interment was in Metairie Cemetery. Times Picayune Newspaper, New Orleans, La. December 9, 1997, B5, c5 Helen K

    09/28/2010 01:28:36
    1. [DEGRUY] Marie Verloin deGruy Pradillo Obit
    2. LESTER KENDRICK
    3. 2002-Pradillo-Marie Verloin deGruy Pradillo (Molly) on Friday, May 10, 2002 at 10:45 PM. Age 83 years. Beloved wife of the late August Richard Pradillo, Sr. Mother of August Richard Pradillo, Jr., Marie Louise Pradillo Lopez and Carmen Lynn Pradillo Romero. Sister of Ines V. deGruy, Janet D. Kohler of Dallas, TX, Juanita D. Troy of Madison, MS and the late Yvonne D. Tremoulet, Louis V. deGruy and Elma D. Durel. Daughter of the late Louis Verloin DeGruy and Marie Louise Mestayer deGruy. Also survived by 7 grandchildren and 2 great-grandchildren. Private services were held on Monday, May 13, 2002. Lake Lawn Metairie Funeral Home was in charge of arrangements. Times Picayune Newspaper, New Orleans, La. May 14, 2002, pB6, c4-5 Helen K

    09/28/2010 01:22:28
    1. [DEGRUY] Lucille DeGruy Obit
    2. LESTER KENDRICK
    3. 1988-DeGruy-Lucille DeGruy, at home, on Sunday morning, December 18, 1988 at 7:30 a.m. Beloved daughter of the late Alice Poujol DeGruy and Joseph V. DeGruy. Sister of Miss Camille DeGruy and the late Gilbert DeGruy. Also survived by cousins. Relatives and friends of the family are invited to attend a Mass of Christian Burial from the Uptown Chapel of Tharp-Sontheimer-Tharp, 4127 S.Claiborne Avenue, on Tuesday morning, December 20, 1988 at 10 a.m. followed by interment in St. Louis No. 2 Cemetery. Visitation on Tuesday morning after 9:30 a.m. Times Picayune Newspaper, New Orleans, La. December 19, 1988, p5, c1 Question: Obit states she is buried in St. Louis No. 2. I also have notes that she is buried in the Octave deGruy Tomb, plaque on side of tomb in St. Louis No. 3 Note: (Paul) Emile Verloin DeGruy and Elise Elisabeth DeCirce Foucher Octave Nicolas Verloin DeGruy and Marie Odile Derbes Joseph Antoine Verloin DeGruy and Alice Poujol Lucille DeGruy Helen Kendrick

    09/28/2010 01:14:26
    1. [DEGRUY] MAGICAL SIDE of NEW ORLEANS this overview for john presco ties french burgundy roots w/ exotic NOLA TEMPLAR-MASON ROOTS merovingian blood shroud aura meets st. bernard golden mean/ DEGRUY DOMED SUGAR MILL & my radiant architecture synergy ROUGEMO
    2. Eugene Ray
    3. -----Original Message----- From: Eugene Ray Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 11:56 AM To: braskewitz@yahoo.com Cc: eamcray@webtv.net Subject: MAGICAL SIDE of NEW ORLEANS this overview for john presco ties french burgundy roots w/ exotic NOLA TEMPLAR-MASON ROOTS merovingian blood shroud aura meets st. bernard golden mean/ DEGRUY DOMED SUGAR MILL & my radiant architecture synergy ROUGEMONT-BESENCON-GRUY la roche de ray/vergy/villersexel HUGO-FOUCHER-NODIER-SION +MAGICAL SIDE OF NEW ORLEANS+ (organic/secretive/exotic/vital) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +THE DEGRUY DOMED SUGAR MILL+ >published in paris< +WAS RATHER MIRACULOUS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >even the architects of the national (JEFFERSONS INFLUENCE) >capital made drawings of it and +LATROBE & SON+ >crowds came from all over<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +AFRO-FRENCH "EXOTIQUE"+ >there are several reasons that cause tropical new orleans to be called >AMERICAS MOST UNIQUE &< +INTERESTING CITY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^ +OUTLINE FOR JOHN PRESCO+, (rougemont/la roche cousin) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >our mutual besencon/rougemont/gruy/ la roche de ray heritage is an alchemy +PRIORY deSION HUGO-FOUCHER+ +NODIER ESOTERIC RESEARCH+ >that qualifies our french scholarship< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +NEW ORLEANS FRENCH INFLUENCES+ (surrealism was a french invention) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >are strong and draw from esoteric occult orientations inherited via ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MASONIC & AFRICAN LIFE+ >secret rituals and< >manifestations< +AMONG NOLA CREOLES+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(my french grandmothers were full of this creole mystical ambience) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FRENCH TEMPLAR VISION+ >french prince louis philippe's visit to new orleans during the sad days of the revolution had +a powerful influence+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ +HE WAS HEAD OF FREEMASONS+ +OF PARIS AND BROUGHT THEIR+ >architectural concepts< >secret rituals< +IDEALS TO NEW ORLEANS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >it is likely that he influenced the design of the domical degruy sugar mill which +WAS BUILT IN THAT PERIOD+ >a reminder of degruy templar roots< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MARQUIS de LAFAYETTE+ >as i have written acquired some of (JEFFERSON'S COLLEAGUE) >our old saulet new orleans land +LOWER GARDEN DISTRICT+ >and brought additional masonic >influence into new orleans<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +SAINT BERNARD of CLAIRVAUX+ >who was the verloin degruy spiritual (TEMPLAR-SION FRANCE) >leader among the orient park/lodge +SHROUD PRESERVATION FAMILIES+ >had a scholarly influence on the >design of cathedrals in france< (CHARTRES & NOTRE DAME) (masonic concepts) >standout among others< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +TEMPLAR DESIGN THEORY+ >synchronistically notre dame was started in construction the very +YEAR THAT BERNARD DIED+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +GENETIC MEMORY+ >my architectural oeuvre in louisiana >& california is filled w/ a passion for +DESIGNING ROUND STRUCTURES+ (a templar retro-vision perhaps) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +THE SILVER SHIP+ >plus a teenage years ufo sighting< (google my silver ship link) +A+U JOURNAL, TOKYO, 1985+ >four page color overview< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +THE HARVEST OF MY ROOTS+ >paris biennale/rudolph steiner/arch. assoc., london/frank lloyd wright & buckminster fuller exhibitions< +I HAD A MESSAGE+ >were some of my venues<... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +RADIANT ARCHITECTURE+ >brazilia/milan/glasgow< >LECTURES IN 9 COUNTRIES< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ANCIENT LA ROCHE deRAY CASTLE+ (see impressive internet photo) +FIRST HOLY SHROUD LOCUS+ >was originally the largest castle in all of burgundy and dominated by +SEVERAL ROUND TOWERS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >the wood box that contained the holy shroud is still preserved >in one of those towers< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +RAY/GRUY-BESENCON/ROUGEMONT+ >(apocalyptic burgundy alchemy)< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >this holy shroud & esoteric study history region must have had enormous impact +PRIORY DE SION MASTERS+ >on the hugo/foucher/nodier youth< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +THEY WERE RAISED IN BESENCON+ +NODIER'S FATHER WAS MAYOR+. >and head of besencon masons< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +NEW ORLEANS CONNECTION+ >hugo's huge literary influence and foucher link later brought his >esoteric views to nola< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >TEMPLAR-MASON-SHROUD+ >the french towns of rougemont and villersexel are only 45 kilometers +EAST OF THE deRAY CASTLE+ >30 kilometers north of besencon< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FRANCE'S # 1 MODERN DESIGN+ >lecorbusier's magical ronchamp chapel is located only 25 kilometers north +OF OUR TOWN OF VILLERSEXEL+ (designed w/ golden mean) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(lecorbusier's nearby hometown of le chaux de fonds (swiss) was a hotbed of masonic theory) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >to be continued.... gene ^^^^^^^^^ >eugene ray, french government +NANCY UNIV. 1986+ international arch/energy comm.

    09/28/2010 01:07:57
    1. [DEGRUY] Foucher family and others
    2. LESTER KENDRICK
    3. Hi Gene, As you can see by the obits, etc that I post, I'm interested in many lines of the DeGruy family. I don't really specialize in any certain line or generation except mine and Bonnie's, which go into the Baudier family line. While many of the members follow only their own family, I/Bonnie try to include all of the lines. Sometimes there is more information on some then others. I just copied the succession of Josephine Guerin Mollee widow of Dufouchard DeGruy (my/Bonnie family), succession of David Hippolyte DuSusau De La Croix, and the succession of Etienne B. DeGruy. Some are difficult to read. I also have marriage records to add to the site. The DeGruy family is so huge that unless everyone add's their information to the site it will be left out - that's why I try and research something about everyone. But actually I really like obits and land records. Going to the library and courthouse - having a quiet day doing research makes my day. Helen K

    09/27/2010 02:42:38
    1. Re: [DEGRUY] Foucher Family Information
    2. judy mahaffey
    3. Thank you Bonnie, I will order that one too.;-) On Sep 27, 2010, at 2:02 PM, B. B. Wood wrote: > Judy, actually the Ekberg book connected to the film is "Stealing > Indian > Women." It is featured on the film's website < > http://underthesesamestars.com>. Although I bought a DVD copy at the > screening, you can buy one through the film's website using paypal. > You can > see a 2 minute trailer from the film on the website. > > ~Bonnie > > B. B. Wood > beebeewood@gmail.com > This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed > to be "fact." All data should be verified. > Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

    09/27/2010 08:36:52
    1. Re: [DEGRUY] Foucher Family Information
    2. judy mahaffey
    3. Thank you Bonnie, I was wondering what book this was.....so looked it up. In case anyone wants to purchase it. Will the film be available to the public.? University of Illinois Press http://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/24npk6cp9780252069246.html French Roots in the Illinois Country The Mississippi Frontier in Colonial Times Carl J. Ekberg On Sep 26, 2010, at 9:18 PM, B. B. Wood wrote: > My friend Sally & I enjoyed being in the Quarter & seeing the > screening of > the film version of Carl Ekberg's book. Although not a documentary, I > enjoyed the historical setting of Ste Genevieve. Somehow, I hadn't > gotten > it into my head geographically that Fort de Chartres and/or > Kaskaskia were > on the east bank of the Mississippi River, whereas Ste Genevieve was > on the > west bank. Basically, what that meant in 1773, the time period of > the film, > was that the land east of the Mississippi River had been ceded to > England at > the end of the French & Indian War. > > In other words, during the time Antoine-Valentin deGruy & Marie > Therese > Aufere were living on the east bank of the Mississippi in the Illinois > territory (1740s-1750s), it was French. Antoine-Valentin died on > Feb 25, > 1759, On Sep 13 , 1759, British General James Wolfe takes Quebec. > This > marks the effective end of French power in North America. On Feb > 18, 1760, > Marie Therese Aufrere married duSuau de la Croix in Kaskaskia > Illinois. On > Feb 10, 1763 France and Britain signed the Treaty of Paris, ending the > French and Indian War. As part of the agreement, Britain acquired > Canada > and Louisiana east of the Mississippi from France, and East and West > Florida > from Spain. Surely, before 1763 when the Illinois territory east of > the > Mississippi was officially turned over to British, duSuau de la Croix, > Aufrere and the deGruy children had relocated to the New Orleans > area which > was still under French control. > > It was very interesting to see the ethnic diversity among the small > population in the Illinois territory on the eve of the American > Revolution: > French, Spanish, English, Indian, African. Communication was quite a > challenge. > > I enjoyed talking to all those involved in making the film: the book > author, the screenwriter, the film director, etc. A charming > group. BTW, > Renee, Carl Ekberg was not aware that you found out the date of > Antoine-Valentin's death. He, of course, wanted to know the document > source, but I being unprepared for the question, referred him back > to you. > He also wanted to know if you knew where Antoine-Valentin died and I > said > no. > > ~Bonnie > This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed > to be "fact." All data should be verified. > Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

    09/27/2010 07:46:51
    1. Re: [DEGRUY] Foucher Family Information
    2. B. B. Wood
    3. Judy, actually the Ekberg book connected to the film is "Stealing Indian Women." It is featured on the film's website < http://underthesesamestars.com>. Although I bought a DVD copy at the screening, you can buy one through the film's website using paypal. You can see a 2 minute trailer from the film on the website. ~Bonnie B. B. Wood beebeewood@gmail.com

    09/27/2010 07:02:13
    1. [DEGRUY] READ GAYARRE FOUCHER PIECE to understand importance of the foucher/bore plantation in 19 c/ FOUCHER-BORE HEART OF NOLA study carefully the important pts 10 REASONS FOUCHER-BORE #1 OF NOLA CREOLE PLANTATIONS sets the tone for educated life & CREOL
    2. Eugene Ray
    3. +GENTEEL, EDUCATED & CULTURED+ >quality of uptown new orleans living >can be traced to the influence of< +FOUCHER-BORE PLANTATION+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(eventually tulane/loyola univ.< >and beautiful audubon park< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +HELLO HELEN+, ^^^^^^^^ >i remember fondly your attendance at the seminar i held at the tulane +SPECIAL COLLECTIONS LIBRARY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >its good to see your interest in our< +HISTORICAL FOUCHER-BORE+ +SUGAR PLANTATIONS+ >may i ask what fuels your interest ? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +HALF THE REAL STORY+ >(whoever wrote that article on the >foucher/bore plantations< >MISSED MANY VITAL< +HISTORICAL FACTS+ >they are extremly important to >cultural depth in new orleans< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FOUCHER-BORE PLANTATIONS+ (19th century mecca) +HEART OF FRENCH NEW ORLEANS+ +CREOLE PLANTATION LIFE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >there are several reasons the foucher- bore plantations were the heart of nola creole plantation life. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +AND EVENTUALLY SET THE TONE &+ +BECAME THE HEART OF THE+ >education/art/culture< >nola living room< +NEW ORLEANS EXPERIENCE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >civilization is very important< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 1) BORE SAVED NOLA PLANTATIONS >his sugar process improvement made new orleanians some of +HE WAS THUS MADE+ +NOLA MAYOR+ >the world's wealthiest people<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2) +FOUCHER-BORE-DESTREHAN+ (royalist enclave) +GRUY-MARIGNY-LIVAUDAIS+ (plus related families) +GAYARRE-DREUX-SAULET+ etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >persona were highly educated and cultivated people w/ important history @ the french court. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 3) FRENCH PRINCE LOUIS PHILIPPE >went directly to the foucher-bore plantations when in new orleans >opening paris doors later< +WHEN HE BECAME KING+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 4) FRENCH ST. LOUS MEDAL KNIGHTS >FORMAL DINNER GATHERINGS< were all held on the foucher- >bore nola plantations< ^^^^^^^^^^^^ 5) THE PLANTATION SCHOOL WAS located on the foucher/bore plantations central locus. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(this was vital in setting the tone< >of uptown new orleans and< >its resultent universities)< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 6) CHARLES GAYARRE # 1 SCHOLAR >of nola creoles grew up there< (center for nola scholarship) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 7) BERNARD MARIGNY #1 LEADER >of nola creoles grew up there< (center for french culture) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 8) deSTREHAN-deGRUY-FOUCHER deBORE RELATED PLANTATIONS >were tops in sugar production< +$30,000 (1806 DOLLARS)+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +DATA FROM LETTER TO THOMAS+ >marquis lafayette invitation< +JEFFERSON BY. GOV. CLAIBORNE+ >wealth provided education< >art and cultural depth< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 9) FOUCHER FAMILY PLANTATIONS were found in several other +deGRUY NEIGHBORS+ +3 MARRIAGE LINK+ >locations on the miss. river< (social/political leaders) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 10) FOUCHER FAMILY IN FRANCE >possess a very old noble heritage w/ much royal linkage that they >INHERITED< (not purchased)< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ETIENNE deBORE & deESTREHAN+ (brothers-in-law) >possessed musketeer heritage +deGRUY SIMILAR+ >and french court education< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >destrehan was royal treasurer for< >the french govt. in new orleans< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +THE HUGO-FOUCHER-NODIER+ >link was a huge factor in the >creole salons of new orleans< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(i have written much about their marigny family link >to french salons/court< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +GAYARRE PLANTATION MEMOIR+ (published harpers weekly) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +FIRST HAND ACCOUNT+ >for a complete comprehension of this transcendent mise-en-scene in the 19th century read the >memoir of charles gayarre< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +GOOGLE EARLIER ESSAYS+ >for my several essays written before about our ancestors plantations ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ google.com (search) ^^^^^^^^^^^ EUGENE RAY / DEGRUY +FOUCHER-BORE PLANTATIONS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ALL BEST REGARDS+ gene ray san diego, california

    09/27/2010 04:37:39
    1. Re: [DEGRUY] Foucher Family Information
    2. Fernin Eaton
    3. Bonnie--your excellent report brings to mind another close connection we have just up river, where other clues may exist. We (in Louisiana) need to be gearing up to co-celebrate with our 'Upper Louisiana' compatriots in just a few years when Missouri celebrates its Statehood. "Creole St. Louis" is another jewel in the crown (among many) for which I had been unaware, until recently. Madame Chouteau was educated by the Ursulines, in New Orleans, I believe, and Auguste Chouteau, with financial backing of St. Maxient, one of the wealthiest men in lower Louisiana, is credited with bankrolling at least some of the trading entrepreneurs who went on to turn the settlement into the St. Louis which it has become. St. Maxient had been briefly 'imprisoned' on the German Coast in the 1768 quasi-independence movement of the French (in which Villere was killed along with five(?) others) against Spanish Governor Ulloa. For his loyalty, St. Maxient was favored when O'Reilly came a few months later. Thanks, Bonnie, for bring this wonderful report back to us about the film and the history. Sorry I had to miss it myself. -----Original Message----- From: degruy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:degruy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of degruy Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 11:18 PM To: degruy@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEGRUY] Foucher Family Information So glad you made it to the presentation! I am traveling and can't do justice to this lovely emai right now,but will as soon as I can. R Sent from my iPad On Sep 26, 2010, at 6:18 PM, "B. B. Wood" <beebeewood@gmail.com> wrote: > My friend Sally & I enjoyed being in the Quarter & seeing the screening of > the film version of Carl Ekberg's book. Although not a documentary, I > enjoyed the historical setting of Ste Genevieve. Somehow, I hadn't gotten > it into my head geographically that Fort de Chartres and/or Kaskaskia were > on the east bank of the Mississippi River, whereas Ste Genevieve was on the > west bank. Basically, what that meant in 1773, the time period of the film, > was that the land east of the Mississippi River had been ceded to England at > the end of the French & Indian War. > > In other words, during the time Antoine-Valentin deGruy & Marie Therese > Aufere were living on the east bank of the Mississippi in the Illinois > territory (1740s-1750s), it was French. Antoine-Valentin died on Feb 25, > 1759, On Sep 13 , 1759, British General James Wolfe takes Quebec. This > marks the effective end of French power in North America. On Feb 18, 1760, > Marie Therese Aufrere married duSuau de la Croix in Kaskaskia Illinois. On > Feb 10, 1763 France and Britain signed the Treaty of Paris, ending the > French and Indian War. As part of the agreement, Britain acquired Canada > and Louisiana east of the Mississippi from France, and East and West Florida > from Spain. Surely, before 1763 when the Illinois territory east of the > Mississippi was officially turned over to British, duSuau de la Croix, > Aufrere and the deGruy children had relocated to the New Orleans area which > was still under French control. > > It was very interesting to see the ethnic diversity among the small > population in the Illinois territory on the eve of the American Revolution: > French, Spanish, English, Indian, African. Communication was quite a > challenge. > > I enjoyed talking to all those involved in making the film: the book > author, the screenwriter, the film director, etc. A charming group. BTW, > Renee, Carl Ekberg was not aware that you found out the date of > Antoine-Valentin's death. He, of course, wanted to know the document > source, but I being unprepared for the question, referred him back to you. > He also wanted to know if you knew where Antoine-Valentin died and I said > no. > > ~Bonnie > This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact." All data should be verified. > Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact." All data should be verified. Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/27/2010 04:26:13
    1. Re: [DEGRUY] Foucher Family Information
    2. degruy
    3. So glad you made it to the presentation! I am traveling and can't do justice to this lovely emai right now,but will as soon as I can. R Sent from my iPad On Sep 26, 2010, at 6:18 PM, "B. B. Wood" <beebeewood@gmail.com> wrote: > My friend Sally & I enjoyed being in the Quarter & seeing the screening of > the film version of Carl Ekberg's book. Although not a documentary, I > enjoyed the historical setting of Ste Genevieve. Somehow, I hadn't gotten > it into my head geographically that Fort de Chartres and/or Kaskaskia were > on the east bank of the Mississippi River, whereas Ste Genevieve was on the > west bank. Basically, what that meant in 1773, the time period of the film, > was that the land east of the Mississippi River had been ceded to England at > the end of the French & Indian War. > > In other words, during the time Antoine-Valentin deGruy & Marie Therese > Aufere were living on the east bank of the Mississippi in the Illinois > territory (1740s-1750s), it was French. Antoine-Valentin died on Feb 25, > 1759, On Sep 13 , 1759, British General James Wolfe takes Quebec. This > marks the effective end of French power in North America. On Feb 18, 1760, > Marie Therese Aufrere married duSuau de la Croix in Kaskaskia Illinois. On > Feb 10, 1763 France and Britain signed the Treaty of Paris, ending the > French and Indian War. As part of the agreement, Britain acquired Canada > and Louisiana east of the Mississippi from France, and East and West Florida > from Spain. Surely, before 1763 when the Illinois territory east of the > Mississippi was officially turned over to British, duSuau de la Croix, > Aufrere and the deGruy children had relocated to the New Orleans area which > was still under French control. > > It was very interesting to see the ethnic diversity among the small > population in the Illinois territory on the eve of the American Revolution: > French, Spanish, English, Indian, African. Communication was quite a > challenge. > > I enjoyed talking to all those involved in making the film: the book > author, the screenwriter, the film director, etc. A charming group. BTW, > Renee, Carl Ekberg was not aware that you found out the date of > Antoine-Valentin's death. He, of course, wanted to know the document > source, but I being unprepared for the question, referred him back to you. > He also wanted to know if you knew where Antoine-Valentin died and I said > no. > > ~Bonnie > This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact." All data should be verified. > Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/26/2010 03:18:10
    1. Re: [DEGRUY] Foucher Family Information
    2. B. B. Wood
    3. My friend Sally & I enjoyed being in the Quarter & seeing the screening of the film version of Carl Ekberg's book. Although not a documentary, I enjoyed the historical setting of Ste Genevieve. Somehow, I hadn't gotten it into my head geographically that Fort de Chartres and/or Kaskaskia were on the east bank of the Mississippi River, whereas Ste Genevieve was on the west bank. Basically, what that meant in 1773, the time period of the film, was that the land east of the Mississippi River had been ceded to England at the end of the French & Indian War. In other words, during the time Antoine-Valentin deGruy & Marie Therese Aufere were living on the east bank of the Mississippi in the Illinois territory (1740s-1750s), it was French. Antoine-Valentin died on Feb 25, 1759, On Sep 13 , 1759, British General James Wolfe takes Quebec. This marks the effective end of French power in North America. On Feb 18, 1760, Marie Therese Aufrere married duSuau de la Croix in Kaskaskia Illinois. On Feb 10, 1763 France and Britain signed the Treaty of Paris, ending the French and Indian War. As part of the agreement, Britain acquired Canada and Louisiana east of the Mississippi from France, and East and West Florida from Spain. Surely, before 1763 when the Illinois territory east of the Mississippi was officially turned over to British, duSuau de la Croix, Aufrere and the deGruy children had relocated to the New Orleans area which was still under French control. It was very interesting to see the ethnic diversity among the small population in the Illinois territory on the eve of the American Revolution: French, Spanish, English, Indian, African. Communication was quite a challenge. I enjoyed talking to all those involved in making the film: the book author, the screenwriter, the film director, etc. A charming group. BTW, Renee, Carl Ekberg was not aware that you found out the date of Antoine-Valentin's death. He, of course, wanted to know the document source, but I being unprepared for the question, referred him back to you. He also wanted to know if you knew where Antoine-Valentin died and I said no. ~Bonnie

    09/26/2010 02:18:22
    1. Re: [DEGRUY] Foucher Family Information
    2. B. B. Wood
    3. Wonderful find Helen. ~Bonnie

    09/26/2010 08:21:18
    1. Re: [DEGRUY] Foucher Family Information
    2. LESTER KENDRICK
    3. Thanks Bonnie. How was the meeting yesterday? I hope you and Sally injoyed it. Learn anything worthwhile? Helen ________________________________ From: B. B. Wood <beebeewood@gmail.com> To: degruy@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, September 26, 2010 2:21:18 PM Subject: Re: [DEGRUY] Foucher Family Information Wonderful find Helen.  ~Bonnie This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact."  All data should be verified. Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/26/2010 06:51:54
    1. [DEGRUY] KING DAGOBERT II deGRUY LINK merovingian blood for centuries link degruy champagne templars GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD / grand orient shroudpreservation TEMPLAR/SION PRYORY/TROYES languedoc/champagne stenay tie NOSTADAMUS-KING RENE-BAR- our villen
    2. Eugene Ray
    3. +SECOND MESSAGE+ >of introduction and orientation to< +JOHN PRESCO-AMBROSE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >these first two messages are an outline +OF OUR VAST HISTORICAL PERSONA+ >in an attempt to find common topics >of exploration and discovery< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +JOHN HAS REPLIED TO MY+ +MESSAGES IN MUCH DETAIL+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >much too long to send a copy out, so >i will in time focus on key points< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +THE ROUGEMONT KNIGHTS AND THE+ +de LA ROCHE de RAY ARE OBVIOUS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >the vergy/gruyere/grandson links +GEOFFREY de CHARNEY+ >are important for our common< +SHROUD OF TURIN+ >ongoing fascinating study< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >I BELIEVE THAT OUR SAINT BERNARD CLAIRVAUX LINK TO ROUGEMONT SHOULD PIQUE HIS INTEREST ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >and this link w/ the most important >chapter of our gruy european story< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +THE TROYES FRATERNITY FAMILIES+ >verloin/gruy/brienne/luxe- embourg/montmorency/ +MEROVINGIAN TEMPLARS+ villersexel/vergy/savoy/ bossancourt/ etc, etc... +OF THE GRAND ORIENT LODGE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >humbert villersexel being an +(VERGY-GRUY LINK)+ >important figure to cousin< +JOHN (PRESCO) AMBROSE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >our hugo/foucher/nodier link w +RENNES LE CHATEAU+ >esoteric study in paris should +ALSO BE OF MUCH VALUE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (see message below) ^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray -----Original Message----- From: Eugene Ray Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 11:35 AM To: braskewitz@yahoo.com Cc: eamcray@webtv.net Subject: KING DAGOBERT II deGRUY LINK merovingian blood for centuries link degruy champagne templars GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD / grand orient shroudpreservation TEMPLAR/SION PRYORY/TROYES languedoc/champagne stenay tie NOSTADAMUS-KING RENE-BAR- our villeneuve provence counts- KING FRANCOIS I-DAVINCI LINK >with the last count of gruyere< +HELLO JOHN PRESCO+, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >i will continue to explain the amazing history i have unearthed relative to ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +OUR VALENTIN VERLOIN deGRUY+ and associated families in the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >champagne/burgundy/lorraine< +GRUYERE ORIGINS+ >provence & languedoc regions<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +GREATEST SECRET STORY UNTOLD+ >it is in hundreds, perhaps thousands of messages i have written for this +INTENSE RESEARCH+ >forum over the past five years that the magnitude of this +HISTORY IS REVEALED+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CECIL B. DEMILLE WOULD HAVE+ +BEEN TOTALLY ENRAPTURED+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >our history involves most important french kings/queens/popes/heros/ +CESERA BORGIA A STAR+ >villains/emperors/artists/poets/ alchemists/troubadours and >RADIANT VISIONARIES< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >of ancient times but tomorrow i will +QUESTION OF ETERNITY+ >cover modern times, new orleans +GENETIC MEMORY AND+ +REMOTE VIEWING+ >architecture & my interface< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +RETRIEVAL PROCESS+ >as i mentioned yesterday, if you use key subject words & eugene ray/degruy you shall find my essays via google. thus >EUGENE RAY / DEGRUY +NOSTRADAMUS+ ^^^^^^^^^ >who relates to our story via +RENNES LE CHATEAU+ >source of his family< +KING RENE de ANJOU-BAR+ >his maturity in provence/tarascon/aix< +CATHERINE de MEDICI+ >his position as her visionary< +GEOFFREY de BOUILLON+ >his creativity in the stenay forest< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >SETTING OF VERLOIN deGRUY ANCESTOR KING DAGOBERT II MURDER AND ROOT >eventual st. bernard monastery< (bernard degruy leader) +OF THE PRIORY DE SION+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >note : all of the capitalised topics can+ +ALCHEMY-EGYPTOLOGY+ +SOCIETY du ST. SACREMENT+ (fouquet=foucher) +ROSICRUCIANS-CATHARS+ >provide many further essay texts< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >also/seperately< >LEONARDO daVINCI-KING FRANCOIS I- MICHAEL deGRUYERE-MONTMORENCY >an amazing untold story< >SAINT VINCENT de PAUL-ALCHEMISTS- CHATEAU BARBERY-PIERRE PLANTARD (an overlooked story) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >SAINT BERNARD-CLAIRVAUX ABBEY- MAGNY FOUCHARD-TEMPLARS (degruy templar story) >VILLENEUVE-GRIMALDI-VALENTIN- CASTLES-COUNTS OF PROVENCE (early degruy history) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >BRIENNE-LUXEMBOURG IN EXILE- LORRAINE-GUISE-VENDEUVRE (degruy neighbors) >SAVOY-GRUYERE-DUKE de BRESSE- LIGURIA-VILLEFRANCHE SUR MER (our mediterranian link) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >LIBRAIRE du MERVIELLEUX-ARSENAL- ST. SULPICE SEMINARY-OLLIER (fascinating paris enclave) >EMMA CALVET-CABRIERES CASTLE- REV. SAUNIERE-TEMPLAR SECRETS (romantic entrigue) >MEROVINGIAN BLOOD-DAGOBERT- BRIENNE-SHEPHERDS of ARCADIA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >for starters< ^^^^^^^ >it is an early love for castles and history BUT EVENTUALLY A U.F.O. VIEWING THAT MADE ME CURIOUS ABOUT (it formed my path) +THIS STRANGE LIFE EXPERIENCE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >that fuels this research< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ google : eugene ray-architect professor/silver ship ^^^^^^^^^^^ +ALL BEST REGARDS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray

    09/26/2010 03:31:57
    1. [DEGRUY] Foucher Family Information
    2. LESTER KENDRICK
    3. I located the followng informatin on a web site called New Orleans Know-It-All -News & Views - Blake Pontchartrain: New Orleans Trivia I must tell you that Audubon Park's history revolves around names like Bore, Gayarre and Foucher. Long ago, the land where the park is now was given to the patriotic Balthasar de Masan, one of Lafreniere's cohorts in the failed rebellion of 1768 to rid the French New Orleans of Spanish rule. The Spanish government confiscated the property and years later gave it to someone who exhibited a bit more loyalty: Pierre Foucher, the son-in-law of Etienne de Bore, the first mayor of New Orleans after the Louisiana Purchase. The Foucher property included a smaller plantation belonging to Foucher's father-in-law, Bore. He was the gentleman who made his reputation by producing the first commercially successful granulated sugar in the United States in 1795. Bore maintained the property from 1781 until his death in 1820. Charles Eitenne Gayarre inherited the plantation from his famous grandfather, and in 1825 sold the small plantation to Pierre Foucher. Sadly, neither plantation was successful in the long run. The combined plantations comprised about 400 acres, but much of the land would turn into a swamp after heavy rains. Louis Foucher, the son of Pierre, acquired both plantations in 1834. Louis didn't do much with the property. At one point he tried to lure gamblers by constructing a race track, but for the most part he left the property undeveloped. It was so far from the city that no one really considered it much of an investment. So sometime before the Civil War, the Foucher family left New Orleans and moved to France, where Louis acquired the title Marquis de Circe. During the Civil War, the opposing forces took turn occupying the abandoned plantation. The Confederates held it first in 1861 and called their site Camp Lewis. Here they kept recruits until they could be shipped out to duty elsewhere in the South. The following year, Union forces moved in under the command of Gen. Benjamin Butler. The old plantation was an ideal place for him to quarter most of his troops and keep them away from the angry citizens . The plantation also became Sedgwick Hospital, a temporary medical facility for sick and wounded soldiers. The Marquis de Circe-Foucher never returned from France, but he sent a representative to determine damages to his property and seek redress for $88,449. After he died in 1869, his widow and niece attempted to acquire the money. Not until 1883 did the federal government give the estate $9,200 plus 5 percent interest dating from April 1, 1865. The ladies, however, had no intention of trying to use the land for agriculture and soon put the property up for sale. By the 1870's, most of the owners of the Uptown plantations had subdivided their property and development had begun. Standing alone was the Foucher Plantation. The Carrollton newspaper called it an "eyesore" a "dead sea" and chastised the absentee owners. After the property changed hands several times, the city acquired the land for a park, in 1879 the City Council established the Upper City Park, also known as New City Park Commission, which would be responsible for operating the park. Money to operate the park did not, however, come from either the city or the state. The main source of revenue came from leasing the grounds for grazing. There were virtually no development of the park until the early 1880's, when a group of local businessmen began to campaign for a world's fair in New Orleans. When Upper City Park was chosen as the site for the World's Industrial and Cotton Exposition of 1884-1885, the future of the park was changed forever. Helen Kendrick

    09/25/2010 08:12:59
    1. [DEGRUY] TELEPHONE CONTACT has been made w/ key rougemont knight FIRST RESPONSE LETTER below ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ REFERENCE TOPICS -MY ESSAYS introductery outline - rootsweb GRUYERE-ROUGEMONT HISTORY >seeking links w/ your families<
    2. Eugene Ray
    3. +VALUABLE TELEPHONE LINK+ > was made yesterday w/ a dedicated >researcher of rougemont data< +JOHN PRESCO+ >of springfield oregon assures me of the +LINK BETWEEN OUR GRUYERE BUILT+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(first crusade gratitude)< +ROUGEMONT MONASTERY+ (near gruyere, swiss.) >and his rougemont people of the +ROUGEMONT CASTLE+ >located near besancon, france< (intense templar/mason locus) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +HOLY SHROUD & SION PRIORY+ >he is very interested in our gruyere link w/ the vergy/de ray and our foucher hugo link w/ charles nodier and +THE PRIORY de SION+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(my most important revelation)< +I EXPLAINED OUR GRUY LINK W/+ >knights templar/troyes fraternity shroud >preservation< +THE GRAND ORIENT LODGE+ (de ray chateau/le rey & >st hippolyte chapels< ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >rennes le chateau was also an< >intensly discussed topic< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (see below) gene ray -----Original Message----- From: Eugene Ray Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 12:55 PM To: braskewitz@yahoo.com Cc: eamcray@webtv.net Subject: REFERENCE TOPICS -MY ESSAYS introductery outline - rootsweb GRUYERE-ROUGEMONT HISTORY >seeking links w/ your families< +GREETINGS JON PRESCO+ (rougemont knights). ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >thanks for the information during >todays telephone conversation< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +I BELIEVE OUR EXCHANGES SHALL+ +HAVE MUCH EXPANDED VALUE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >my research on the shroud families and templar languedoc/bar/ burgundy links is valuable. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +GENERAL REFERENCES TO+ (france & louisiana) +MY deGRUY(ERE) RESEARCH+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 1) you can find my previous essays on our gruy(ere) and related families >using google.com (search)< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >EUGENE RAY / DEGRUY / (subject examples) ^^^^^^^^^^ A) GRUYERE CASTLE B) COUNTS OF GRUYERE C) MAGNY FOUCHARD (degruy chateau near troyes) D) PARK OF THE ORIENT ( knights templar/freemasons of france original locus & >degruy/brienne/luxembourg shroud protection families chateaux locations) E) HOLY SHROUD OF JESUS (TURIN) i have traced its moves from the de ray castle to lirey chapel to st. hippolyte chapel to chambery and finally to the savoy/turin F) LIREY CHAPEL shroud chapel, also in the park of the orient s. of troyes. (we visited last september) G) ST. HIPPOLYTE CHAPEL (humbert villersexel-vergy shroud chapel s. of lirey H) VERGY FAMILY >inlaws of the last count of gruyere (michael de gruyere) >jeanne vergy married to de charney >early shroud custodians< I) de RAY CASTLE original locus of the holy shroud just north of besancon J) ROUGEMONT CASTLE (near besancon) >your people/link w/ our people at several different points K) ROUGEMONT MONASTERY >built by our counts de gruyere just after the first crusade (one of our links) L) BESANCON, FRANCE >i trace the hugo-foucher-nodier priory de sion/freemason & rosicrucian history here M) FOUCHER louisiana family married to our degruy related to victor hugo's >wife adele foucher hugo. N) LIBRAIRE de MERVIELLEUX hugo/nodier meeting venue in paris devoted to esoteric study in the 19th century O) ARSENAL LIBRARY >charles nodier was the head of this french govt. library devoted to masonic/templar research. P) RENNES LE CHATEAU we visited there last september i have written much re: this + I HAVE TO CLOSE AT THIS POINT+ >will send other subjects later< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >you can also find my past essays back to 2006 by searching the archive >for each year since then< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DEGRUY@ROOTSWEB.COM (discussion list archive) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ALL BEST REGARDS >we shall be in monterey ca. on oct. >1st & 2nd if you are available< (carmel ca. oct. 3rd & 4th) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray (degruy/foucher/cavaroc) eugene ray , m.f.a. architect (ret) professor emeritus san diego state university (tulane & la. state univ)

    09/25/2010 02:38:47
    1. [DEGRUY] MAISON HOSPITALIERE / cavaroc
    2. Eugene Ray
    3. >(thanks bonnie)< ^^^^^^^^^ +CHARLES CAVAROC AND+ +HELOISE LAMOTHE CAVAROC+ >were also part of the foundation of +MAISON HOSPITALIERE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >amalie cavaroc staigg told me one of +NOLA VIEUX CARRE+ >unmarried sisters died there< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray

    09/25/2010 01:44:23
    1. Re: [DEGRUY] Louise Lacour Obit
    2. B. B. Wood
    3. Storied French Quarter Nursing Home To Close. New Orleans CityBusiness, Sep 18, 2006 The Board of Directors of Maison Hospitaliere, a nonprofit French Quarter nursing home with a 113-year history of providing care and shelter to the elderly, today announced it will close because of staffing shortages and financial difficulties. The administration said it is unable to sufficiently staff the facility and accommodate residents with the quality health care and assistance they have provided for more than a century. "The number of residents at Maison Hospitaliere is down by almost two-thirds from its pre-Katrina levels, with fewer than 40 beds occupied at this time," said Board spokesperson Jackie Shreves. "Before the storm there was an average of 85 residents who called the Maison home. Rather than compromise our philosophy of providing residents of all financial means with exceptional care, we decided to make the very difficult decision to close our doors." Before Katrina, the Maison had completed several upgrades and renovations after a successful capital fund-raising campaign. "Katrina brought unforeseeable circumstances to the Maison's staff and the elderly population of the metro New Orleans area. Every month since Katrina, the Maison has operated at a deficit, and unfortunately we can no longer sustain these losses," said Shreves. [...] The Maison has been overseen by a voluntary board since it opened in 1893. The Maison Hospitaliere, French for "Hospitality House," was started by French Quarter resident Coralie Correjolles, who organized a group of 30 French Quarter women in 1879 as La Societe des Dames Hospitalieres ("The Society of Hospitable Ladies"), to help women unable to support themselves. Dues were 10 cents a month. The organization's goal was to unite under one roof those whom sorrow and misery had already united in heart and sympathy. In 1893 the society bought a former small hotel at 822 Barracks St., which was a frame building with two detached service wings. Every day, the original 20 residents received food, shelter, and five barrels of coal a year. Eventually, the facility was licensed as a nursing home by Louisiana to provide care for 94 residents, including 35 in the infirmary. In 1951 a building that houses administrative offices and an infirmary was built at 1220 Dauphine St. from private contributions. "This is a very sad day for all of us who love the Maison, which includes our dedicated staff, administration, residents, and families," said Shreves.

    09/24/2010 08:00:11