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    1. Re: [DEGRUY] Degruys in Terrebonne Life Lines article [Champagne & Edelmayer descendants]
    2. Jerry Sherlock
    3. Renee many thanks. Marianne Hermina Verloin deGruy Champagne is one of my maternal G-G-Grandmothers, and my connection with the deGruy families. Must say, I didn't have some of this info.  Again, thanks  Jerry Sherlock Mandeville, LA ________________________________ From: Degruy List Administrator <listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> To: GEN DEGRUY Mailing list at Rootsweb <degruy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 8:53:08 PM Subject: [DEGRUY] Degruys in Terrebonne Life Lines article [Champagne & Edelmayer descendants] Cousins, Many issues of old Terrebonne Life Lines have come my way and as I find Degruy references, I will share them with you. These will help us to fill out many missing pieces in our Degruy Family jig saw puzzle. Let us know if any of these help you with your own research. Renee =============================== DeGruy References in "Terrebonne Life Lines Winter 1987 Vol. 6 No. 4 [Covering the Old Lafourche Interior Parish Area]" The following Degruys appeared in an article entitled: "Descendants of Jean Baptiste Champagne Sr. & Marie Charlotte Edelmayer" Page 34 Children of Elie Champagne & Marcellite Chauvin:   1. Justin Champagne, b. 1820 in St Charles PH. M. 11 Feb. 1839 [C.       VI, #645] to Marianne Hermina Verloin Degruis, b. 1819, d. 10 July       1901 [RC. VI, p. 38], d/o Dumesnil Verloin Degruis & Charlotte       Falgout. In 1870, he is listed as 50, farmer, and his wife,       Armena, 51. [1870 LPC Ward 8, #133] Page 37 In section under "Children of Pierre Arsene Champagne & Marie Leonise Falgout: 9. Marie Dulcina Champagne, b. 11 April 1835 [TC. V3. #1181]; m. 28 Nov. 1860 [TC. V5, #232] to Joseph Octave Picou, s/o Leon Picou & Laura Verloin Degruis (Note from Renee: listing all of the following since they are all children of a DeGruy) Page 38 In section under Children of Justin Champagne & Marianne Hermina Verloin Degruis:   1. Joseph Justin Champagne, b. 8 Oct. 1841 [TC. V3, #2459] Not listed       in 1860 Lafourche Parish Census]   2. Josephine Champagne, b. 14 Jan. 1843 [TC. VI-A, #145] [Twin-one of       whom was listed as 'Lovinia' in 1860 Lafourche Ph. Census]   3. Marie Valeda Champagne, b. 14 Jan. 1843 [TC. VI-A, #146] [Twin --       one of whom was listed as 'Lovinia' in 1860 Lafourche Ph. Census]       Note: Louvina Champagne m. 20 July 1867 [TC/H. Mar. V14, #123-C]       to Cyprien Matherne [see 1860 LPC Ward 9-192, p. 25 & Wd. 8-507,       p. 100].In 1870 she is named Lovencia [1870 LPC, Ward 8, family       #127]. Lovinia Champagne d. 12 Jan. 1912, bur. St. Mary Cemetery,       Raceland [VFR-3, pg. 58]. Which one of the twins listed above was       Lovinia? Was she Josephine or was she Marie Valeda.   4. Pierre Champagne, b. 21 Oct. 1844 [TC. V4, #731]; m. 10 Aug. 1867       [See Lafourche Ph. Mar. Records] to Marie Septua Bourgeois, b. 27       Jan 1851 [LkC. VI, #34], d/o Emile Froizin Bourgeois & Marie       Delphine Rodrigue. In 1870, he was a laborer living near Raceland       area [1870 LPC, Ward 3, Family #648   5. Laura Champagne, b. Oct 1846; d. 26 Dec. 1846 at 2 months [TC. VI,       #328]   6. Emile Champagne, b. ca. 1850 as listed on 1860 Laf. Ph. Census. In       1870, he is listed as a farm laborer, single, and is 18 years old,       living with his father and mother. [1870 LPC, Ward 8, family #133]   7. Emilie Champagne, b. ca 1852 as listed on 180 Laf. Ph. Census]; m.       22 Feb 1878 [TC/H. Mar. V21, #183] to Hypolite Hebert, s/o Etienne       Hebert & Clemence Robichaux. In 1870 she is 16 years old, living       with her father and mother [1870 LPC, Ward 8, family #133]   8. Marie Elmira Champagne, b. 6 Nov. 1855 [RC. VI, #280] listed as       Alvina Champagne when she d. 7 May 1858 at age 2 ½ years [RC, O.B.       p. 158]   9. Septime Celestin Champagne, b. 14 Sept. 1858 [RC. VI, #514]; m. 3       Feb. 1886 [RC. B. B. V4, p. 338] to Elmire Pertuit, d/o John       [Thomas] Pertuit & Azelida [Zelida] Theriot. On the 1870 LPC, Ward       8, family #133, he is listed as Sephirin, 12 years old, and a farm       laborer   10. Cleophas Champagne, b. 27 Dec. 1860 [RC. O. B. p. 64]; d. 30 May       1867 at age 6 years [TC. V2, p. 231, #19]   11. Mathilde Champagne, b. 15 Jan. 1863 [RC. O. B. p. 64]; m. 17 July       1884 [TC. VII, p. 26] to Etienne Hebert, s/o Joseph Hebert & Alise       Dantin. She is listed as Matie in 1870 LPC, Ward 8, family #133   12. Marie Lea Champagne, b. 10 Oct. 1865 [RX. O. V. p. 83]; m. 10 June       1890 [RC. B. B. V4, p. 377] to Edgard Gervais, s/o Jean Gervais &       Anaise Martin. In 1870 LPC, Ward 8, family #133, she is       incorrectly listed as Lion, 5, maile. (Note from Renee: On page 3 there is also a reference to "Baltazar Dusuan".... If you think this is Balthasar DuSuau De la Croix, I can give you that quote also.... He is listed as a Regent of the Lyceum of the Parish of St. Charles along with other familiar names: Perret, Fortier, Delhomme, Darensbourg, Trepagnier, Brou....) This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact."  All data should be verified. Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/29/2010 04:22:07
    1. [DEGRUY] Degruys in Terrebonne Life Lines article [Champagne & Edelmayer descendants]
    2. Degruy List Administrator
    3. Cousins, Many issues of old Terrebonne Life Lines have come my way and as I find Degruy references, I will share them with you. These will help us to fill out many missing pieces in our Degruy Family jig saw puzzle. Let us know if any of these help you with your own research. Renee =============================== DeGruy References in "Terrebonne Life Lines Winter 1987 Vol. 6 No. 4 [Covering the Old Lafourche Interior Parish Area]" The following Degruys appeared in an article entitled: "Descendants of Jean Baptiste Champagne Sr. & Marie Charlotte Edelmayer" Page 34 Children of Elie Champagne & Marcellite Chauvin: 1. Justin Champagne, b. 1820 in St Charles PH. M. 11 Feb. 1839 [C. VI, #645] to Marianne Hermina Verloin Degruis, b. 1819, d. 10 July 1901 [RC. VI, p. 38], d/o Dumesnil Verloin Degruis & Charlotte Falgout. In 1870, he is listed as 50, farmer, and his wife, Armena, 51. [1870 LPC Ward 8, #133] Page 37 In section under "Children of Pierre Arsene Champagne & Marie Leonise Falgout: 9. Marie Dulcina Champagne, b. 11 April 1835 [TC. V3. #1181]; m. 28 Nov. 1860 [TC. V5, #232] to Joseph Octave Picou, s/o Leon Picou & Laura Verloin Degruis (Note from Renee: listing all of the following since they are all children of a DeGruy) Page 38 In section under Children of Justin Champagne & Marianne Hermina Verloin Degruis: 1. Joseph Justin Champagne, b. 8 Oct. 1841 [TC. V3, #2459] Not listed in 1860 Lafourche Parish Census] 2. Josephine Champagne, b. 14 Jan. 1843 [TC. VI-A, #145] [Twin-one of whom was listed as 'Lovinia' in 1860 Lafourche Ph. Census] 3. Marie Valeda Champagne, b. 14 Jan. 1843 [TC. VI-A, #146] [Twin -- one of whom was listed as 'Lovinia' in 1860 Lafourche Ph. Census] Note: Louvina Champagne m. 20 July 1867 [TC/H. Mar. V14, #123-C] to Cyprien Matherne [see 1860 LPC Ward 9-192, p. 25 & Wd. 8-507, p. 100].In 1870 she is named Lovencia [1870 LPC, Ward 8, family #127]. Lovinia Champagne d. 12 Jan. 1912, bur. St. Mary Cemetery, Raceland [VFR-3, pg. 58]. Which one of the twins listed above was Lovinia? Was she Josephine or was she Marie Valeda. 4. Pierre Champagne, b. 21 Oct. 1844 [TC. V4, #731]; m. 10 Aug. 1867 [See Lafourche Ph. Mar. Records] to Marie Septua Bourgeois, b. 27 Jan 1851 [LkC. VI, #34], d/o Emile Froizin Bourgeois & Marie Delphine Rodrigue. In 1870, he was a laborer living near Raceland area [1870 LPC, Ward 3, Family #648 5. Laura Champagne, b. Oct 1846; d. 26 Dec. 1846 at 2 months [TC. VI, #328] 6. Emile Champagne, b. ca. 1850 as listed on 1860 Laf. Ph. Census. In 1870, he is listed as a farm laborer, single, and is 18 years old, living with his father and mother. [1870 LPC, Ward 8, family #133] 7. Emilie Champagne, b. ca 1852 as listed on 180 Laf. Ph. Census]; m. 22 Feb 1878 [TC/H. Mar. V21, #183] to Hypolite Hebert, s/o Etienne Hebert & Clemence Robichaux. In 1870 she is 16 years old, living with her father and mother [1870 LPC, Ward 8, family #133] 8. Marie Elmira Champagne, b. 6 Nov. 1855 [RC. VI, #280] listed as Alvina Champagne when she d. 7 May 1858 at age 2 ½ years [RC, O.B. p. 158] 9. Septime Celestin Champagne, b. 14 Sept. 1858 [RC. VI, #514]; m. 3 Feb. 1886 [RC. B. B. V4, p. 338] to Elmire Pertuit, d/o John [Thomas] Pertuit & Azelida [Zelida] Theriot. On the 1870 LPC, Ward 8, family #133, he is listed as Sephirin, 12 years old, and a farm laborer 10. Cleophas Champagne, b. 27 Dec. 1860 [RC. O. B. p. 64]; d. 30 May 1867 at age 6 years [TC. V2, p. 231, #19] 11. Mathilde Champagne, b. 15 Jan. 1863 [RC. O. B. p. 64]; m. 17 July 1884 [TC. VII, p. 26] to Etienne Hebert, s/o Joseph Hebert & Alise Dantin. She is listed as Matie in 1870 LPC, Ward 8, family #133 12. Marie Lea Champagne, b. 10 Oct. 1865 [RX. O. V. p. 83]; m. 10 June 1890 [RC. B. B. V4, p. 377] to Edgard Gervais, s/o Jean Gervais & Anaise Martin. In 1870 LPC, Ward 8, family #133, she is incorrectly listed as Lion, 5, maile. (Note from Renee: On page 3 there is also a reference to "Baltazar Dusuan".... If you think this is Balthasar DuSuau De la Croix, I can give you that quote also.... He is listed as a Regent of the Lyceum of the Parish of St. Charles along with other familiar names: Perret, Fortier, Delhomme, Darensbourg, Trepagnier, Brou....)

    10/28/2010 02:53:08
    1. [DEGRUY] VOISIN TEMPLAR BLOOD LINKS creative/powerful french family merovingian/rennes le chateau COUTURIER-ROY-DEGRUY LINK france & eighteenth c. louisiana +VALENTIN-LA ROCHE de RAY+ rougemont/besencon/foucher >hugo/nodier templar history
    2. Eugene Ray
    3. +VOISIN TEMPLAR BLOOD LINKS+ >create a relationship w/ degruy history that is a fascinating, alchemical study. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +VOISIN 1737 INDIGO PLANTATION+ (on the old bienville plantation) +NEW ORLEANS FRENCH COLONY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >was located in uptown new orleans on +PIERRE VOISIN PLANTATION+ >the misissippi river next to our own +PIERRE COUTURIER PLANTATION+ (large, located at napoleon ave.) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +SYNCHRONICITY+ >the voisin/degruy templar history in france created a powerful bond that +VOISIN-COUTURIER-ROY+ +VERLOIN deGRUY TEMPLARS+ >probably involved the couturier as +ASSOC. des FAMILIES ROY+ (links w/ my cavaroc fmly.) >it very definitely involved the roy< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MARIANNE COUTURIER+ >(who grew up on this plantation)< >married our< +(FRANCOIS) JOSEPH VERLOIN deGRUY+ >(together they developed a family >from which many of us descend<) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +THE VOISIN HISTORY IN FRANCE+ +IS RICH AND MONUMENTAL+ (powerful and creative) +AS IS THE VERLOIN deGRUY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +VOISIN AERODINE MOTOR CAR+ >as i write a photo of a voisin aerodine motor car owned by lecorbusier the +GABRIEL VOISIN DESIGN+ >great swiss/french architect with +TEMPLAR GEOMANCY+ >templar-jura upbringing lights >my working environment< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +SWISS JURA-FRENCH COMTE+ >(rougemont/hugo/foucher >nodier/besancon/sion<) +LA ROCHE-RAY HOLY SHROUD+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +VALENTIN-RAY LINKAGE+ >a very important factor of this is our< +VALENTIN FAMILY+ >link w/ the la roche de ray family< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +WE MUST REMEMBER THE VOISIN+ +HAUTPOUL RENNES LE CHATEAU+ (my christmas card photo) +POWERFUL TEMPLAR CASTLE+ >(pierre de voisin the early >templar grand master<) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +KINGDOM OF PAMPLUME-NAVARRE+ >our pamplume/navarre/albret history >is a powerful link south of rennes le +MONTAUT-MONBERAUD+ >chateau reminding us that king francois 1st & cesare borgia ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +BOTH MARRIED ALBRET SISTERS+ >princess/daughters of the< +KING OF PAMPLUME-NAVARRE ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(both also hired the genius of >+LEONARDO DAVINCI+) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ +IN FRANCE THE VOISIN WERE+ +FOUND ADDITIONALLY LINKED+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 1) +CAPT. VOISIN de LA VERGNE+ (saint malo corsair ship) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2) +CHATEAU MESNIL-VOISIN+ >(owned by saint cyr school >director and friend of< >madame de maintenon< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >f i n a l l y< +IN THE ST. CHARLES PARISH IN+ +1955 I PHOTOGRAPHED YET+ (west indies/creole house) +ANOTHER VOISIN PLANTATION+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >aged last descendents< +FINI+ ^^ gene ray, san diego, california

    10/28/2010 09:43:53
    1. [DEGRUY] Please Clarify: Re: VOISIN TEMPLAR BLOOD LINKS creative/powerful french family merovingian/rennes le chateau COUTURIER-ROY-DEGRUY LINK france & eighteenth c. louisiana +VALENTIN-LA ROCHE de RAY+ rougemont/besencon/foucher >hugo/nodier templar his
    2. Degruy List Administrator
    3. Good Morning, Regarding this email and other similar ones: Can you please clarify Voisin? Have we proved a direct connection, an intermarriage between the Degruy and the Voisin lines? Or do they just exist in proximity in physical location or philosophic ideals? I think we need to clarify this in regards to our study of Degruy blood lines to prevent confusion. Thanks, Renee On 10/28/10Thursday 10:43 AM, Eugene Ray wrote: > > +VOISIN TEMPLAR BLOOD LINKS+ > >create a relationship w/ degruy history > that is a fascinating, alchemical study. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >

    10/28/2010 06:16:05
    1. [DEGRUY] Just received this article on "Creole" from the Les Amis organization
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    3. **I've been given permission to share this with you *To:* Ruth Keenoy *Subject:* Fwd: meaning of "Creole" To: Les Amis Members From: E.G.Sayad Author Carl Ekberg passed along this definition of "Creole" which applies throughout the Upper and Lower Lousiana Territory of the 18th century, including our Creole Corridor. *Creole* "Creole" is probably the most misunderstood term by lay researchers, as well as by scholars, in matters relating to Louisiana. Generally considered to be of Portuguese/Spanish origin, the word was probably originally Arabic, and taken to Iberia by the Moors prior to the year 900 A.D. In the nineteenth century, some scholars believed it originally meant "servant." If it did not, it verily did come to refer to those who helped support European monarchies by their labors in foreign fields. Whatever the origin of "Creole," our eighteenth century ancestors in Louisiana had no doubt whatsoever of its meaning: Someone, some thing, anything, born, made, or grown in the Mississippi Valley/Gulf Coast colony, as opposed to having been born, made, or grown elsewhere. Descendants of persons born in the colony are, perforce, also considered Creole. Descendants of persons who arrived in Louisiana after 1803, by strict definition, are not, as Louisiana was no longer a colony after the Louisiana Purchase. Race has not a thing to do with being Creole. Witness, however, a contrary opinion published as recently as 1986 by a distinguished university press, written by a highly-praised historian: As we move away from a Eurocentric interpretation of American culture and begin to explore the African roots of /all Americans/ [emphases added], it is important to understand Louisiana creole culture. It is the /most /[emphasis added] significant source of Africanization of the /entire /[emphasis added] culture of the United States.... In eighteenth-century Louisiana, the term creole referred to locally born people /of at least partial African descent /[emphases added]....[i] Such statements are jarring, and they vitiate an otherwise fine contribution to Louisiana history and cultural studies. Based on any collection of colonial Louisiana documents, civil or ecclesiastical, local or in European archives, a Creole could be "pure" white, "pure" black, of any amalgam of the two -- so long as that person was /born in colonial Louisiana/. (emphases added). A person might be of purest African ancestry, and if born in Louisiana, a Creole; of purest Caucasian ancestry, and Creole; or of any admixture of black and white, and Creole -- but only if born in /provincial /Louisiana//(and similar colonies), which is the operative definition. By "Caucasian ancestry" French and/or Spanish ancestors are usually implied, although early eighteenth century German and other non-Latin colonists are often (yet, not consistently) referred to as Creole in records. The author had always believed and (somewhat) still does, that equatoriality had something to do with "Creole" designation. In a lecture at the National Archives in 1975, however, having expressed such a theory, one student remarked that the first Russians born in Alaska were called Creoles, thus shattering an otherwise potentially profound idea. Nevertheless, being "Creole" remains a matter of place and time far more than it is a matter of ancestry, and certainly not of race. Although it has been a point of controversy, this author is convinced, based on eighteenth century usage in civil and church records, that descendants of Canadians were not referred to as Creole. Acadians, most agree, were always, except perhaps in error, distinguished from both Creoles and Canadians. We offer one excellent piece of evidence: The ca. 1770 roster of the Opelousas Post militia, which provides names, martial status, height, and age of 71 men, also reveals their 'nationalities" -- in this case, it seems clear, where they were born, not simply their ethnic identity. Those categories are precisely divided into "French," "Creole," "Canada," and "Acadian," as well as two Italians, and one Englishman.[ii] For a further example, witnesses identifying themselves in civil and criminal legal suits employed the same segregational terms -- French, Canadian, Acadian, Creole (including African-Americans). Other contemporary records are quite as convincing and precise. Just as "Creole" had nothing to do with race, in the eighteenth century, the term had nothing to do with social status. It was not until toward the end of the nineteenth century that, primarily in New Orleans, "Creole" came to imply social superiority in some circles. The main reason, probably, was the Frenchmen's reaction to the steady encroachment of /les américains. /Peoples of the "country" parishes never took to such a supercilious interpretation of the word, and to this day, they do not. Indeed, there was some opprobrium implied in the military and in politics of the eighteenth century, when a person was identified as "Creole." High political and military officers were almost always natives of Europe. We do find some dramatic, although arguable exceptions.. François Saucier, usually referred to as Creole (but of a Canadian father and a mother born near Paris), became one of the leading engineers in French Louisiana; he received his early education in Paris.[iii] Nicolas Chauvin de la Frenière the Younger, born in New Orleans, usually considered to be the quintessential Creole, became a member of the Superior Council; he was, 'though, of Canadian parentage, and also received his legal education in France.[iv] Neither of these men, nor the few others who reached relatively high office, was a typical Creole. To be appointed captain in the local militia was just about the highest aspiration of most Creole men. There is no argument that the word "Creole" has undergone evolution during the last three centuries in Louisiana. If, however, we attempt to study eighteenth century Louisiana history and ancestry, definitions of that word as employed merely during the last two centuries should neither be imposed upon the praxes of, nor hinder the search for the eighteenth century people who handed the word to us. To perpetuate an error is to condone it, and we find no salutary reason for doing so. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1- Virginia R. Dominguez, /White by Definition: Social Classification in Creole Louisiana/ (Rutgers, N.J.: 1986) p..157. For the writer's opinion of Prof. Dominguez' book, see his essay-review in /Plantation Society in the Americas/, edited by Dr. Thomas Fiehrer: "White by Definition: A Critique," (New Orleans: 1989) Vol. II, no. 3, pp. 295-300. 2- /Papeles Procedentes de Cuba, Archivo General de Indias/ (PPC, AGI), /legajo/ 161, as published in Winston De Ville, /Louisiana Soldiers in the American Revolution/, (Ville Platte, LA: 1991) pp. 87-89. 3- Jack Belsom and Winston De Ville, "The Sauciers in 1726: Year of Decision for a Colonial Louisiana Family," /Louisiana History/, vol. XXIX, no. 2 (Spring 1988) pp. 183-189. [iv]- Gary B. Mills, "The Chauvin Brothers: Early Colonists of Louisiana," /Louisiana History/, Volume XV (Spring1974) PP. *117--131.*

    10/27/2010 10:02:19
    1. [DEGRUY] Chauvin history & how they connect to our Degruys
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    3. Good Afternoon, While working with some issues of Terrebonne Life Lines I came across the following article regarding the Chauvins. [They relate to our DeGruys through the Fazendes and Harangs.] I'm not including the whole article; just those relevant to us “The Chauvin’s of Illinois County and Louisiana” compiled by Ruth B. Voss; found on page 30 of Terrebonne Life Lines, Summer 1987, Vol. 6 No.2 1st and 2nd Generation Pierre Chauvin [dit Grand Pierre]; b. 1631 at Lion d’Angers in the province of Anjou, France; d. Aug. 4, 1699; son of René Chauvin and Catherine Avard of Solesne, France. Pierre arrived in New France [Canada] in 1652. By March 3, 1653, he was established in the parish of Ville Marie [Montreal, Canada]; where he obtained a land grant in the same vicinity as the one obtained by Charles LeMoyne, the father of Pierre and Jean Baptiste LeMoyne, the founders in 1699 of the Louisiana Colony. On Sept. 18, 1658, Pierre married fourteen year old Marthe Autreuil [Le ´hAutreux]; b. [ca] 1644; d. Feb. 25, 1714; daughter of René Autreuil [Le h’Autreux] and Francoise Le Chaunerlliar of the parish of Noyen in the province of Anjou, France. The union of Grand Pierre and Marthe produced eleven children. Following the custom of the period, the sons of Pierre Chauvin; as the sons of Charles LeMoyne; when they became of age, added to their family names such places as [most of which are shown as suburbs of present day maps of Montreal, Canada] de Lery, le Beauleau, de la Freniere, Bienville and Iberville. 3rd Generation [Not giving all here; see article for full citation] Children of Pierre Chauvin and Marthe Autreuil [Le hÁutreux]: 1. Marie Marthe Chauvin; 2. Pierre Chauvin; 3. Barbe Therese Chauvin; 4. Gillis Chauvin; 5. Michelle Chauvin; 6.Jacques Chauvin 7. Joseph Chauvin de Lery 8. Nicholas Chauvin de la Freniere: [one of the four brothers who came to Mobile with Bienville] bapt. Jan. 19, 1676 in Montreal, Canada; d. 1749; m. Marguerite le Sueur of Mobile, Ala.; daughter of Pierre Charles le Sueur and Marguerite Messier. 9. Louis Chauvin le Beauleau 10. Paul Chauvin 11. Jean Baptiste Chauvin ---------------------------------- That is the end of my selection from the article. Now follows my own understanding of how the Chauvins connect to our DeGruys... Please let me know if you see corrections that need to be made Rene Chauvin [de Frennier?] b. abt 1620, France & Caterine de’Solesne | Pierre Chauvin de Frennier | b. 1631 | d. 4 Aug 1699 | & Martha Autreil | b. 1636, Montreal, Canada | d. 24 Feb 1714 | m. 16 Sep 1658 | | Nicolas Chauvin de Frennier | | & Margurite Leseur | | | Jeanne Chauvin de Frennier | | | & Lord Louis Le Bretton Dorgenois | | | | Francis Joseph Le Bretton Dorgenois | | | | & Ann Margurite Harang | | | | | Maria Francisca Alix Le Bretton Dorgenois | | | | | b. 1780?, NOLA | | | | | d. 2 Jul 1869, NOLA | | | | | & Sebastian Françisco Fazende [from DP] | | | | | b. 1761, NOLA | | | | | d. 21 Oct 1818, NOLA | | | | | | [Sebastian] François Moriere [Angèl?] FAZENDE* | | | | | | b. 8 Jun 1795 | | | | | | d. 19 Jan 1839 | | | | | | & Felicite Estelle Verloin de Grouey et Saulet DeGruy [Degruys, Degary, De Grouy] | | | | | | b. 9 May 1820, father’s plantation in Jefferson Parish | | | | | | d. 31 Dec 1883, David Perrin has 31 Dec 1883 NOLA | | | | | | m. 19 Jan 1839 | | | | | | [Sebastian] François Moriere [Angèl?] FAZENDE* | | | | | | b. 8 Jun 1795 | | | | | | d. 19 Jan 1839 | | | | | | & Maria Josepha Mathilda HARANG [HARAN] | | | | | | m. 2 Jan 1816, Saint Louis Cathedral

    10/27/2010 09:09:33
    1. [DEGRUY] RENNES leCHATEAU POTENTIAL exciting safari of john lawrence and hnoc director/wife priscilla >IN LANGUEDOC S.W. FRANCE< a region magical with templar- DEGRUY-VILLENEUVE HISTORY
    2. Eugene Ray
    3. -----Original Message----- From: Eugene Ray Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:11 AM To: johnl@hnoc.org Cc: eamcray@webtv.net Subject: RENNES leCHATEAU POTENTIAL exciting safari of john lawrence and hnoc director/wife priscilla >IN LANGUEDOC S.W. FRANCE< a region magical with templar- DEGRUY-VILLENEUVE HISTORY >letter to our dear talented friend... +HISTORIAN-PHOTOGRAPHER+ +AUTHOR-ARCHIVIST-POET+ >john lawrence of thnoc who is in +DORDOGNE, LANGUEDOC+ >in the southwest of france< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +NEW ORLEANS LIVING TREASURE+ >traveling w/ his lovely, talented wife priscilla who is thnoc director and >together form a nola treasure< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +WILD MAGNIFICENT DORDOGNE+ >is rife w/ degruy/albret/pamplume/ +CAVAROC-ROY-LAMOTHE+ >montaut/voisin/templar/cathar/ +ST. VINCENT de PAUL+ +NOSTRADAMUS+ >toulouse/rennes le chateau +SOCIETY du ST. SACREMENT+ +PRIORY de SION+ >drama and associations ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >A MOST EXCITING REGION...FILLED W/ FANTASTIC ARCHEOLOGY +CASTLES AND HISTORY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +HELLO JOHN & PRISCILLA+, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >it was so good to recieve such a quick reply to my message to you about +THE CONTENTS OF MY ARCHIVE+ >(seventy-eight planet earth years >sixty odd of creole creativity<) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ART-ARCHITECTURE & CREOLE LIFE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >each day brings much excitement as +INDIVIDUAL PIECES ARE BROUGHT+ +TO LIGHT FORMING A DYNAMIC+ >that is aesthetic w/ louisiana >california and international< +HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >we look forward to sharing this >progress upon your return<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +TWO NOVEMBER FIELD TRIPS+ >we shall be away a few days in november but shall bring our >small computer for e-mails< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT YOUR OWN+ +JOURNEY IN SOUTHWEST FRANCE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 1) please be aware that henry lincoln >author of "holy blood-holy grail" and +RENNES LE CHATEAU EXPERT+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +IS HOLDING SEMINARS @ R.L.C.+ >google: henry lincoln 2010< +IN THIS VERY PERIOD OF TIME+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >this would be an unforgetable experience s. of carcasonne) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CAZE-BOSK & CABRIERS CASTLES+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2) also if possible stay or have lunch at la caze castle in the gorge de +MAGNIFICENT+ +ENCHANTED+ >tarn e. of toulouse lautrec's >enchanting albi museum< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >VISIT LAUTREC FAMILY CHATEAU >profound/beautiful< +LA BOSC NORTH OF ALBI+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +IRMA CALVET'S CABRIERES+ >above all visit chateau cabrieres near the gorge du tarn's malen village ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +IT WAS HERE THAT THE SECRET+ +TREASURE OF THE TEMPLARS+ >merovingian heritage< >villeneuve/degruy< +CRUSADES WAS SECRETED+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +LIKE JEFFERSON SHIP HOME A+ +CASE OF CABRIERES WINE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >have a safe journey< ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ALL BEST gene

    10/27/2010 05:13:10
    1. [DEGRUY] ARCHIVAL PROGRESS REPORT
    2. Eugene Ray
    3. >the double region factor offers< +A DYNAMIC PERSPECTIVE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene -----Original Message----- From: Eugene Ray Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 3:33 AM To: johnl@hnoc.org Cc: eamcray@webtv.net Subject: ARCHIVAL PROGRESS REPORT >to john h. lawrence, ^^^^^^^^^^^ >(historic new orleans collection archives) ^^^^^^^^^^ +ARCHIVAL PROGRESS REPORT+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ dear john, +CONTINUED E-MAIL DIFFICULTY+ >telephone communication w/ the firm in dallas supplying my msn-2, large screen e-mail system replacement ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +INFORMS A DELAY IN SHIPPING+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(thus these messages short >w/ danger of being lost< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ART & ARCHITECTURE GRAPHICS+ >on the positive side i have made vast progress in organizing thousands +MANY FORMATS-MEDIA+ >of graphic art & archtecture works >to give to the h.n.o.collection< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +LOUISIANA-CALIFORNIA DYNAMIC+ >the factor that is fascinating in process of this organization is the big picture +LIKE NABOKOF'S SWITCH+ +RUSSIAN TO ENGLISH+ >louisiana vs california contribution >to the nature of the concepts< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +PEDAGOGICAL FACTOR IMPORTANT+ >the tremendous opportunity i had in california to develop an entire +NEW CURRICULUM+ +4 NEW CLASSES+ >new approach to teaching< >architecture was crucial< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >CALIFORNIA & MY PUBLICATIONS, +EXHIBITIONS & LECTURES IN+ (expanded non-provincial vision became important) >EUROPE-ASIA & LATIN AMERICA +WERE CRUCIAL TO THE WORK+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +LOUISIANA AS MY SOURCE+ >louisiana provided the organic start to my oeuvre and viewing the video +LOUISIANA GRAPHICS+ >tape of my l.s.u. lecture and the cordinated exhibition helps to comprehend this view. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CALIFORNIA PERSPECTIVE+ >john, it would be very helpful if you or someone from your office could journey here to see this dynamic ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +IN ITS ENTIRITY & MIES-EN-SCENE+ >your father's faith in me would be given much big picture >perspective/cognizance< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +HAPPY THANKSGIVING+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ALL BEST gene

    10/26/2010 04:41:52
    1. [DEGRUY] HOLY SHROUD PRESERVATION knights templar grand masters ROUGEMONT-GRUYERE BLOOD >>rougemont/roche de ray<< +GRAND MASTERS No 3 & 4+ roche/ray/charney/vergy/gruy >merovingian blood relations +VERY INTERESTING DATA+ >of recent ambrose exchange
    2. Eugene Ray
    3. +TYPO CORRECTION+ >guillemette was the de ray >daughter... not almon< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray -----Original Message----- From: Eugene Ray Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 3:08 AM To: degruy@rootsweb.com Cc: eamcray@webtv.net Subject: HOLY SHROUD PRESERVATION knights templar grand masters ROUGEMONT-GRUYERE BLOOD >>rougemont/roche de ray<< +GRAND MASTERS No 3 & 4+ roche/ray/charney/vergy/gruy >merovingian blood relations +VERY INTERESTING DATA+ >of recent ambrose exchange +HOLY SHROUD PRESERVATION+ >in northeastern france after >the fourth crusade< +INVOLVED OUR ANCESTORS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +VERY CRUCIAL DATA+ >from john presco-ambrose< >rougemont descendent< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +GRUY-ROUGEMONT MONASTERY+ >built near gruyere after the +FIRST JERUSALEM+ >crusade was the beginning of >the french rougemonts<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +EARLY SHROUD FAMILIES+ >this corroborates information i have previously shared on this very +FASCINATING HISTORY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ROUGEMONT-RAY+ +KNIGHTS TEMPLAR FAMILY+ 1) almon de rougemont married to guillemet de ray was the daughter of othon de la roche de ray ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +IMPORTER OF THE HOLY SHROUD+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(of de ray castle at ray sur soane >burgundy north of besancon<) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2) amaury de la roche de ray was a +GRAND MASTER OF THE+ +KNIGHTS TEMPLAR+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >he was preceeded as grand master of the knights templar by ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +HUGHES de ROUGEMONT+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 3) geoffrey de charney (wed to gruy related m. vergy), great french +OROFLAME KNIGHT+ >knight & shroud protector ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +POSSESSED BLOOD OF THE+ +de LA ROCHE de RAY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >thus keeping it all in the< >merovingian blood< ^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

    10/25/2010 04:34:59
    1. [DEGRUY] HOLY SHROUD PRESERVATION knights templar grand masters ROUGEMONT-GRUYERE BLOOD >>rougemont/roche de ray<< +GRAND MASTERS No 3 & 4+ roche/ray/charney/vergy/gruy >merovingian blood relations +VERY INTERESTING DATA+ >of recent ambrose exchange
    2. Eugene Ray
    3. +HOLY SHROUD PRESERVATION+ >in northeastern france after >the fourth crusade< +INVOLVED OUR ANCESTORS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +VERY CRUCIAL DATA+ >from john presco-ambrose< >rougemont descendent< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +GRUY-ROUGEMONT MONASTERY+ >built near gruyere after the +FIRST JERUSALEM+ >crusade was the beginning of >the french rougemonts<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +EARLY SHROUD FAMILIES+ >this corroborates information i have previously shared on this very +FASCINATING HISTORY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ROUGEMONT-RAY+ +KNIGHTS TEMPLAR FAMILY+ 1) almon de rougemont married to guillemet de ray was the daughter of othon de la roche de ray ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +IMPORTER OF THE HOLY SHROUD+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(of de ray castle at ray sur soane >burgundy north of besancon<) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2) amaury de la roche de ray was a +GRAND MASTER OF THE+ +KNIGHTS TEMPLAR+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >he was preceeded as grand master of the knights templar by ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +HUGHES de ROUGEMONT+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 3) geoffrey de charney (wed to gruy related m. vergy), great french +OROFLAME KNIGHT+ >knight & shroud protector ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +POSSESSED BLOOD OF THE+ +de LA ROCHE de RAY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >thus keeping it all in the< >merovingian blood< ^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

    10/25/2010 04:08:53
    1. [DEGRUY] VILLERSEXEL-ROUGEMONT LINK
    2. Eugene Ray
    3. +VILLERSEXEL CASTLE+ >in september 2009 we discovered in france enroute to degruy chateau +MAGNY-FOUCHARD+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ +THAT VILLERSEXEL CASTLE AT >humbert de villersexel >married de vergy/charney< +MONTFORT FRANCE ^^^^^^^^^^^^ +IS UNDER RECONSTRUCTION+ ! +AND ALMOST COMPLETE+! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >(the holy shroud brought here +ST. HYPPOLITE CHAPEL+ >after lirey (leray) chapel) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +HUGHES de ROUGEMONT LINK+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +PONS de LA ROCHE de RAY+ >roche leray-rougemont< +GRUYERE LINK+ >shroud importers< >and preservers< +SAVOY LINK+ ^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

    10/24/2010 05:03:15
    1. [DEGRUY] PRIORY de SION GOLD SOURCE for degaulle's return in france PLANTARD-DULLES-OSS-CIA- link w/ vatican anti-communism OTTO VON HABSBURG PLAN by allies to restore h.r. empire 1946
    2. Eugene Ray
    3. -----Original Message----- From: Eugene Ray Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 4:10 AM To: degruy@rootsweb.net Cc: eamcray@webtv.net Subject: PRIORY de SION GOLD SOURCE for degaulle's return in france PLANTARD-DULLES-OSS-CIA- link w/ vatican anti-communism OTTO VON HABSBURG PLAN by allies to restore h.r. empire 1946 +THANKS TO JOHN PRESCO AMBROSE+ >our scholarly rougemont cousin >for his recent kind message< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +TENTATIVE MESSAGE+ >(i await delivery of my new msn large screen e-mail system). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ORGANIZING A LIFETIME OF DESIGN+ (destined for hist. n.o. coll.) +& ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES+ >sadly i composed a vital message to you yesterday which froze on the screen +ALMOST FINISHED+ >(finally to unfreeze, it was lost)<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +I TIED TOGETHER ALL OF OUR TROYES-+ (saint bernard inspired) +SHROUD FAMILIES W/ HABSBURG-+ >(degruy link w/brienne/luxe. in exile/roche/ray/charney/ >vergy/joinville/savoy etc<) +BURGUNDY FAMILY TIES FOCUSING+ (counts of lorraine/bar/anjou) +ON THE CURRENT HABSBURG HEAD+ (aged/merovingian blood >w/ sion/malta link<) +DR. OTTO VON HABSBURG+ (charlemagne/vergy tie). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +MEROVINGIAN BLOOD+ >(our dreux-savoy-anjouleme-gruyere +LUXE-MONTMORENCY+ >link w/ boullion in lorraine and +DAGOBERT-R.L. CHATEAU+ >languedoc is important here<) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +M. I. 6 POSTWAR HISTORY+ >the british secret searvice books point out the allied concept to restore otto's +HOLY ROMAN ENPIRE RULE+ >in the days after the second world +CIA-VATICAN PARTNERS+ >war when communism was feared< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +CHURCHILL FEARED STALIN+ >and actually had secret plans to link defeated german troops w/ anglo- >american army if necessary<. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +O.S.S. AGENT ALLEN DULLES+ >lloyd a. rays first c.i.a. boss was located in switzerland w/ a huge budjet to >fight the growth of communism< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +PIERRE PLANTARD+ >(priory de sion nautaunier)< >was busy smuggling gold ingots from +NAZIS HAD IMPRISONED+ >switzerland to finance degaulle in >france and one wonders< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ?+THE SOURCE OF THAT GOLD+ ? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

    10/21/2010 05:17:46
    1. [DEGRUY] Jeanne Zulme Dufouchard Verloin Degruy
    2. Degruy List Administrator
    3. Does anyone have a death date for Jeanne Zulme Dufouchard Verloin Degruy who was married to Moses Duffy, Robert Robelard Brandon, and either John or I. Mackenzie? At some point she and Mackenzie lived in Missouri, not sure where. I think she is buried in St. Louis Cem. but I suppose she could be in Missouri. I know next to nothing about Mackenzie [not even sure about the spelling of the name Have this record: ANOSR VOLUME 13 PAGE 430 UNDER VERLOIN [@VERLOIN DEGRUY] Jeanne Zusmi [o] Degruise Verloin and [o] Duminy, dec. minor, of this parish, m. Moses Duffy, Oct 10. 1818 [SMNO, m1, 42] an old email from Wally: Then, Jeanne Julme Degruy had remarried a Robert Brandon sometime after 1828 and they had a son, Paul Antoine Brandon, who was born about 1835. Robert Brandon then died sometime after 1836. Jeanne Julme Degruy Duffy Brandon then married an I. MacKenzie and moved to St. Louis. I'm at the St. Louis library right now and could track down a death... or anything else.... but I'm at this stumbling block. R.

    10/20/2010 05:41:59
    1. [DEGRUY] TEMPLAR-SHROUD FAMILIES history seen via michelin map VAILLY 15 KL. WEST OF PINEY >greatest of secret histories<
    2. Eugene Ray
    3. +STUDY YOUR FRENCH MAP+ +TROYES TEMPLAR-SHROUD REGION+ >grand orient forest troyes families< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (michelin map book, 1 in.=5 kl.) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +PPS 56-57 ILLUSTRATE OUR HISTORY+ >the first degruy to move into +MAGNY FOUCHARD CHATEAU+ (marrying a bossancourt) +CAME FROM A CHATEAU @ VAILLY+ (just n. of templar city, troyes) +15 KILOMETERS WEST OF PINEY+ >locus of the duke de luxemburg in exile famous piney-tingry regiment linked TO BRIENNE & VERLOIN deGRUY ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ALL ENCOMPASSED BY THE+ >grand orient lodge< +FOREST OF THE ORIENT+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (orient=jerusalem) ^^^^^^^^^^ +KING OF JERUSALEM+ >(most sought after of titles)< +DUKE de BRIENNE+ >owner of the "shepherds of arcadia" merovingian secrets painting w/ +LUSIGNAN LINKS TO SAVOY+ >and the precious< +HOLY SHROUD OF JESUS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >protected by charney-vergy family< +LE-RAY CHAPEL LI-REY+ >with strong de gruyere counts links< >providing with trumpets<... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +HOUSE OF LE ROCHE-de RAY+ (shroud importation) +HOUSE OF CHARNEY-VERGY+ (shroud preservation) +HOUSE OF GRUYERE-VERGY+ (charney-savoy-ray links) +HOUSE OF SAVOY+ (later shroud owners) +HOUSE OF ROUGEMONT+ (link w/ gruy-roche-ray) +HOUSE OF BRIENNE-LUXEMBURG+ (grand orient leaders) +MONTMORENCY W/ LINKS TO+ (templar-freemason link) +LORRAINE-GUISE+ ^^^^^^^^^^ +ALL STIMULATED BY THE GOLDEN+ +VISION OF SAINT BERNARD+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

    10/19/2010 11:03:42
    1. [DEGRUY] VALUABLE RESEARCH TOPICS / duchy of luxemburg in exile - BRIENNE-MONTMORENCY TIE piney-tingry degruy regiment TEMPLAR-FREEMASON BIRTH / >degruy domed sugar mill< GRAND ORIENT PARK LODGE / conde nast traveler article re: RADIANT BORDIGHERA RIVIERA
    2. Eugene Ray
    3. +ABBREVIATED MESSAGES+ >(this system may go out as i type... new system on way) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 1) GOOGLE : "DUCHY OF LUXEMBURG IN EXILE" >remember degruy chateau magny +TEMPLAR-SHROUD CORE+ >fouchard is in "grand orient park" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +BRIENNE FAMILY UNITED W/ THE+ >merovingian blood< +DUKE OF MONTMORENCY+ >all degruy neighbors and +TROYES FRATERNITY+ >military/blood colleagues ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +GRAND ORIENT LODGE OF FRANCE+ (templar french masonic lodge) >was founded by duke de luxe. in +DUKE OF PINEY-TINGRY+ >find piney on map< (degruy regiment) >the park w/ influences inherited ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >BY LOUISIANA deGRUY BROTHERS IN ST. CHARLES & ST. JOHN PARISHES (domed sugar mill resultent) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +YESTERDAY+ >i sorted through dozens of my< +ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >all made w/ circular and/or domical orientation without cognizance +GENETIC MEMORY+ >of degruy masonic history< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2) OUR SAVOY LIGURIAN HERITAGE is brought to light in an article found in a wonderful issue (september). +CONDE NAST TRAVELER+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "MY MONET MOMENT" >is about charles garnier's great villa in bordighera, italy near france on +THE RADIANT RIVIERA+ >painted magnificently by monet< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +ARCADIAN SYNDROME+ >we shall photograph this next may >god willing, during our safari< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +PALM SUNDAY PALMS+ >for the vatican have always come from< >fertile/radiant/arcadian bordighera< +A GEM OF LIGURIAN BEAUTY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >reminder of our bresse/savoy history +ON THE MEDITERRANIAN SEA+ (admiral bresse/templar ship) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ gene ray, san diego, california

    10/19/2010 03:54:35
    1. [DEGRUY] DeGruy Marriage - Question
    2. LESTER KENDRICK
    3. List, I came across a marriage record at the St. Charles Parish Courthouse. Does anyone know who this person is? Family? Hypolite Degruy child of Celestin Degruy and Genevieve ? deceased married to Clementine Normand child of [Jean] Baptiste Normand and Rosalie ? Married June 1, 1847 by Judge Pierre Porret Helen Kendrick

    10/17/2010 01:42:04
    1. [DEGRUY] MI 6 = BRITISH MILITARY INTELLIGENCE (INTERNATIONAL)
    2. Marianne and Eugene Ray
    3.                                                 +NEW MI 6 HISTORY BOOK AVAILABLE+                                          :       (mi (not ml) = british military intelligence)                          >the french  degruy family were deeply involved in military activities<                                             +IT WAS NOBILITY'S ANCIENT VOCTION+                               >a new history of british intelligence offers expanded view of                                      >secret activities relative to merovingian restoration<                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^                                                                                     gene ray

    10/17/2010 03:56:52
    1. Re: [DEGRUY] Some musings about Interviews
    2. Degruy List Administrator
    3. Fabulous, Laurie! Good luck! And I love your Mother Teresa quote. BTW, I went to school with an Adele Gaudet. Wonder if she related. R On 10/14/10Thursday 1:24 PM, Laurie Main wrote: > What timing you have, Renee'! > > > The Gaudet side of my family is meeting on October 23 for a reunion at my cousin's north of New Orleans. My mother's generation is the oldest and 2 of the 12 first cousins are already gone. I am going to send the interview questions to them before we meet and collect as much additional info the day of. > > > Thanks for the nudge to get something done NOW, before time marches much further on, > > > Laurie > > > If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other - Mother Teresa. > >

    10/14/2010 10:09:05
    1. Re: [DEGRUY] Some musings about Interviews
    2. Laurie Main
    3. What timing you have, Renee'! The Gaudet side of my family is meeting on October 23 for a reunion at my cousin's north of New Orleans. My mother's generation is the oldest and 2 of the 12 first cousins are already gone. I am going to send the interview questions to them before we meet and collect as much additional info the day of. Thanks for the nudge to get something done NOW, before time marches much further on, Laurie If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other - Mother Teresa. -----Original Message----- From: Degruy List Administrator <listadministratordegruyl@earthlink.net> To: GEN DEGRUY Mailing list at Rootsweb <degruy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Oct 14, 2010 7:49 am Subject: [DEGRUY] Some musings about Interviews Mornin', Took a drive in the country yesterday and was listening a segment of Genealogy Gems with Lisa Cooke who was chatting with a genealogist. One of the genealogist's comments was that one of the most important things we can do for our research is to interview our oldest relatives .... Now... While we Can. That got me thinking and so once again I invite each of you to look at your family: parents, grandparents, aunt, uncles, cousins.... and ask yourself: Who might have valuable information, memories, stories... that I could preserve for future generations by conducting an interview ..... now? In our collection of published discussions there is an interview form. On our website is an interview form. If you can't think of the questions yourself, use that form to get you going. If you have a teenager you'd like to get involved, bring him or her to the interview. Give them some questions to ask. Let them hear the family stories first hand. Your relative will be honored by the attention your are paying to them.... by the respect you are giving them by taking an interest in their lives. And, if you are so inclined, please share the results with us. And here's yet another thing to keep in mind: we are the "older generation" for others to come. Project into the future. Someday someone will be searching for information on us, just as we are searching for information on our past generations. Why not leave an accurate account... complete with names, dates, observations? So...Write down your own memories. Tell about your families. Leave your memories for those who will be someday searching. But be specific. Be accurate. Be thorough. That's it... Keep in touch, cousins. R This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact." All data should be verified. Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEGRUY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/14/2010 08:24:42
    1. [DEGRUY] Some musings about Interviews
    2. Degruy List Administrator
    3. Mornin', Took a drive in the country yesterday and was listening a segment of Genealogy Gems with Lisa Cooke who was chatting with a genealogist. One of the genealogist's comments was that one of the most important things we can do for our research is to interview our oldest relatives .... Now... While we Can. That got me thinking and so once again I invite each of you to look at your family: parents, grandparents, aunt, uncles, cousins.... and ask yourself: Who might have valuable information, memories, stories... that I could preserve for future generations by conducting an interview ..... now? In our collection of published discussions there is an interview form. On our website is an interview form. If you can't think of the questions yourself, use that form to get you going. If you have a teenager you'd like to get involved, bring him or her to the interview. Give them some questions to ask. Let them hear the family stories first hand. Your relative will be honored by the attention your are paying to them.... by the respect you are giving them by taking an interest in their lives. And, if you are so inclined, please share the results with us. And here's yet another thing to keep in mind: we are the "older generation" for others to come. Project into the future. Someday someone will be searching for information on us, just as we are searching for information on our past generations. Why not leave an accurate account... complete with names, dates, observations? So...Write down your own memories. Tell about your families. Leave your memories for those who will be someday searching. But be specific. Be accurate. Be thorough. That's it... Keep in touch, cousins. R

    10/14/2010 05:49:02