Following is an exchange between Jerry Freyder and me over the original question I posted to Degruy-L back on April 6th: 1] My Message: Subject: Antoine in a Pery baptismal record Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:23:14 -0500 From: Degruy List Admin <degruylist@earthlink.net> To: Degruy-L@rootsweb.com Hi, Saw this in ANOSR #12 [1751-1771] Pery Francois Valentin [Gerard and Francoise Aufrere], b. July 19, 1756, bn. Oct. 31, 1755, s. Antoine Valentin DEGRUY VERLOINS, officer of the detached troops in this colony, and Francoise Helene PELLERIN, sp. MACARTY [@DE MACARTI], captain of the troops [SLC, B3, 60]. Anyone have information on Gerard and Francoise Aufrere and how they link to us.... how linked to Marie Therese? I thought her parents were Antoine Francois Aufrere and Marie Mathurine Guillemet [Guilmot] dit La Lande.... So... who are Gerard and Francoise Aufrere... and what is Antoine's relationship to them????????? Anybody know? Anyone have Antoine in the records of other affiliated names? Renée 2] Jerry's response 4/10/05 10:17 PM: Hi Renee, I have the children of Francois "Antoine" Aufrere and Marie Maturine Guillemot dit La Lande as: 1. Francoise Therese Aufrere married Sieur Gerard Pery on February 1732, nine children 2. Paul Antoine Aufrere born Bef. November 17, 1727, died November 17, 1727 3. Marie Therese Aufrere born December 29, 1728, died Aft. December 17, 1792, married Antoine Valentin Verloin- de Gruy and Joseph des Mazilliers du Suau de la Croix Sr. 4. Antoine Alexandre Aufrere born Abt. February 3, 1731 in New Orleans, died between Bet. 1772 - 1793 5. Francois Aufrere born about April 1732 The following are my notes for Sieur Gerard Pery, militia officer: 1738, December 11 - Joseph Blanpain formed a partnership with Joseph Le Kintreck (Le Quintrek), called Dupont, who was custodian of the prisons in New Orleans. They agreed to trade pelts, horses, bear grease and tallow with the Opelousas and Attakapas Indians and Gerard Pery. 1740, April 21 - A contract strengthening the partnership between Blanpain and Le Kintreck was signed in Opelousas. 1740, September 17 - Gerard Pery bought the (to be Jumonville) plantation in present day Chalmette, La. from the succession of Bertrand Jaffre, called La Liberte', who had died in March of that year having named Pery as executor of his estate. The plantation was probably bought with Pery's wife's funds, (Francoise Therese d'Aufrere) for on August 7, 1755, she had petitioned Monsieur d'Auberville, of the Superior Council, to permit her to sell the property. Jaffre was granted a concession for the land on April 22, 1729, only the second man to own the property. 1764, November 5 - On 1873, May 21 - A map of T.12S.R.13E, drawn by E. W. Foster, shows the land of C. Devilliers in section 40. It crosses Bayou Bienvenu in New Orleans East and was granted to G. Pery [Sieur Gerard Pery?] on November 5th, 1764. 1795 - "Renato de Kernion" sold the Chalmette, La. Jumonville Plantation to Charles Philippe Coulon Jumonville de Villiers. de Kernion had bought the same plantation on August 22, 1789, from the succession of Charlotte Lalande d'Apremont, widow of Pierre Chabert. The property had been bought by Chabert, a former captain of infantry in the service of France, from Sieur Gerard Pery and his wife in 1765. The following are my notes for Francoise Therese Aufrere: 1731, July 28 - Louis Joseph Verret's godparents were Louis Filidor & Francoise Aufrere. 1748, October 19 - Godparents of Pierre Jacques Revoil were Jacques Masicot [Massicot] and Francoise Aufrere [Francoise Therese d'Aufrere], spouse of Perry [Sieur Gerard Pery] [signs as F. Pery] (SLC, B2, 136). 3] Jerry also sent this 4/10/05 11:02 PM: Hi Renee, Thought you might be interested in this: Lafayette (LA) Daily Advertiser, September 30, 1997 Port Barre was early trading post by Jim Bradshaw Port Barre, at the point where Bayou Courtableau flows into Bayou Teche, was the site of a French trading post 250 years ago. It was here that Jean Joseph LeKintreck traded whiskey for furs brought to him by Indians of the countryside. LeKintreck was one of the coureurs de bois who were among the first Europeans to come to Acadiana in search of trade. His practices -- especially that of trading whiskey to the Indians -- did not always sit well with the government authorities in New Orleans, but they had neither the mind nor the muscle to do much about it. LeKintreck was born in Brittany in 1689 and arrived in Louisiana sometime before 1716. By the time he ventured into the Opelousas territory, he had been involved in exploration, trapping, and trading expeditions in Louisiana for some 20 years. He'd claimed land on the Mississippi River above New Orleans, married Anne Marie Baftz, and had fathered several children. He had also managed to acquire the title Sieur and the alias "Dupont." LeKintreck's enterprise was prompted by the semi-nomadic Opelousas Indians themselves, who, in 1733, petitioned Gov. Bienville to send traders to the district. They offered pelts, tallow, and horses, and promised to "settle in villages like other nations." The government didn't think too much of the idea but LeKintreck thought he might be able to turn a profit in Opelousas trade. He found a partner in Joseph Blanpain, another veteran trader, and a backer in New Orleans merchant Gerard Pery. LeKintreck and Blanpain agreed to furnish Pery with furs and with "whatever tallow and bear's grease our trade may produce." The traders broke their contract with Pery before their Opelousas enterprise really got started (indeed, LeKintreck served as jailer at the New Orleans prison in 1738), but by 1740 LeKintreck and Blanpain were ready to see what the Opelousas district would bring. They left New Orleans that spring, traveling up the Mississippi River to Plaquemine, then west across the Atchafalaya Basin to the junction of bayous Teche and Courtableau. Then they went northwest on the Courtableau to the site of present-day Washington, before traveling overland onto the prairie to find the wandering Opelousas Indian traders. The site they chose as their trading post was at the point where the bayous meet in present-day Port Barre. The Indian trade did, in fact, turn a profit, and LeKintreck, then 52 years old, decided to move his family to the area. LeKintreck's first wife, Anne Baftz, died in 1747, and he remarried to Catherine Menu, the widow of Jacques Courtableau (père). She was a native of Paris who had come to New Orleans in 1720 aboard La Baleine, a ship carrying deported women. Her son by her first marriage was Jacques Guillaurne Courtableau, who also had a reputation as a trader. He soon formed an alliance with LeKintreck and expanded his association when he married LeKintreck's daughter, Marguerite. She was the widow of Claude Desbordes and the mother of five children. LeKintreck died in 1753, but Courtableau continued trading. His expeditions took him to what later would become Calcasieu Parish, and further west into Spanish Texas. By 1756, Courtableau had amassed a fortune in land, cattle, and slaves, and had become the largest landowner and planter in the area. His home on Bayou Teche near Bayou Marie Croquant served as the first church in the area and was a center for visiting church and government officials. Although some historians believe his titles were self-proclaimed, Courtableau was Capitaine de Quartier des Opelousas, and was recognized as being one of the first officials in the Opelousas territory. In 1765, Courtableau gave land grants to 32 Acadian immigrants who came to the Opelousas district. That same year, he sold 8,800 arpents of land, including the site of the first trading post, to Charles Barre. The post later became known as Barre's Landing, and then Port Barre. It was a busy port during the steamboat days of the early 1800s. http://search.netscape.com/ns/boomframe.jsp?query=%22Gerard+Pery%22&page=1&offset=0&result_url=redir%3Fsrc%3Dwebsearch%26requestId%3D740a2a2158230546%26clickedItemRank%3D1%26userQuery%3D%2522Gerard%2BPery%2522%26clickedItemURN%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.carencrohighschool.org%252Fla_studies%252FParishSeries%252FStLandryParish%252FPortBarre.htm%26invocationType%3D-%26fromPage%3DNSCPResults%26amp%3BampTest%3D1&remove_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.carencrohighschool.org%2Fla_studies%2FParishSeries%2FStLandryParish%2FPortBarre.htm <http://search.netscape.com/ns/boomframe.jsp?query=%22Gerard+Pery%22&page=1&offset=0&result_url=redir%3Fsrc%3Dwebsearch%26requestId%3D740a2a2158230546%26clickedItemRank%3D1%26userQuery%3D%2522Gerard%2BPery%2522%26clickedItemURN%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.carencrohighschool.org%252Fla_studies%252FParishSeries%252FStLandryParish%252FPortBarre.htm%26invocationType%3D-%26fromPage%3DNSCPResults%26amp%3BampTest%3D1&remove_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.carencrohighschool.org%2Fla_studies%2FParishSeries%2FStLandryParish%2FPortBarre.htm> 4. My Response to Jerry Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 11:16 PM > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Degruy List Admin <mailto:degruylist@earthlink.net> > To: Gerald Freyder <mailto:gfreyder@worldnet.att.net> ; > cmj@acsalaska.net <mailto:cmj@acsalaska.net> > Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 11:16 PM > Subject: Re: Antoine in a Pery baptismal record] > > This is fabulous, Jerry.... Thanks so much.... I'm forwarding this > to Celine to see how she wants to handle it. She can cut and paste > your email and put it into the History category under > Transcription of Printed Material.... or she can just say that you > submitted the link and let folks click on the link... I'll leave > it up to her since she handles figuring out what takes up less > space on the site. Whatever she does... she will give you credit > for submitting the information. It's important for the other > Degruy researchers to get the idea that this is a "collaboration" > web site.... and we need to see other names than just Celine and > Renée!!!! > This article has made a lot of my confusions clearer. Still have > some though > What was that Dupont all about.....how did that get in there if it > wasn't his real name...? So did LeKintreck have an official > "concession" from the King? > > And what is with this Anne Marie.... I have never seen so many > different surnames for one individual as Anne Marie.... we have > Posse Hopf, we have Doss; I've seen Bopf And now we have Baftz? > Does anyone have any information on this????? Who was she? Where > did she come from? and What was her REAL last name????? > I'll answer your other email tomorrow. Time to go to bed now! > Again thanks.... > Renee > 5. Jerry to Renée 4/11/05 12:17 AM Hi Renee, Jean Joseph \Le Kintreck\ dit DuPont Sr. was born abt 1694 and was a native of the Bishopric of Quimper in Brittany. He was married three times. His first wife is easy to confuse with his second. She was Anne Marie Pose' and was buried on October 17, 1733. They had one child, Marie "Francoise" \Le Kintrek\ dit DuPont born Bef. July 15, 1728. She married Pierre Couturier on December 19, 1744. Jean Joseph Le Kintreck, called DuPont (his children simply used the name DuPont), remarried Ann Marie (Baftz) Popff, who may have been the sister of Daniel (Boftz Haup Pofp) Popff. Daniel was born in 1704 in Germany and was among the German Coast settlers in 1740, then moved his family to Pointe Coupee. As all of the German names, it was slaughtered by the local French, who would just as well rename him something French than try to spell his name. I do not have Marie Anne's parents, but she is probably related to Daniel Popff. Incidently, Daniel remarried my wife's ancestor, Veronique Wesle, another German settler, on January 11, 1751 in St. Charles Parish (German Coast), so it was probably Veronique that moved to Pointe Coupee with Daniel. Veronique Wesle was the widow of Bernard Wick when she married Daniel. Bernard and Veronique had my wife's ancestor, Marguerite Wick, who was born to this couple in Ingleheim, Germany. Marguerite married Jean Hans Adam (Jean Baptiste) Edelmeier, and this name was changed to Lemaire when one of his descendants moved to the St. Martinville area. These are my notes for Le Kintreck: Also see Le Kintrek 1720, August 20 - Jean Joseph DuPont was bound for Louisiana and the St. Catherine Concession on the "Loire" from Lorient. 1724 - Census of the German Coast listed him as age 27, native of the Bishopric of Quimper in Brittany. He lived on land owned by M. Bienville and served in the Swiss army. His wife was with him. 1738, December 11 - Joseph Blanpain formed a partnership with Joseph Le Kintreck (Le Quintrek), called Dupont, who was custodian of the prisons in New Orleans. They agreed to trade pelts, horses, bear grease and tallow with the Opelousas and Attakapas Indians and Gerard Pery. 1740, April 21 - A contract strengthening the partnership between Blanpain and Le Kintreck was signed in Opelousas. 1746, May 20 - Godparents at the St. Louis Church baptism of Francoise Couturier were Jean Joseph Le Kintrek and Marguerite Le Kintrek (SLC B2, 68). 1748, February 4 - Godparents of Marguerite Julite Deborde [probably desBordes] were Joseph Le Kintreck and Catherine Lemenu [probably Catherine Menu, his third wife] (SLC, B2, 117). Obviously, Le Kintreck, called DuPont, was one of the "movers and shakers" of early Louisiana. Jerry Freyder From Renée to the List Renee's comment: I have seen in other records that he was DuPont called LeKintreck. How do we figure out whether it is DuPont called LeKintreck or LeKintreck called Dupont!!!

Hi, I now have in my possession photocopies of ANC D2C-51 and ANC D 2C 52 which was sent me from University of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana. So, for those of you out there who have volunteered to do some look ups at various research institutions, there is no need to research these. I haven't had time to go through them with a fine tooth-comb as yet, but will let you know what I find. I leave in the wee hours of Sunday morning for a week long visit with 3 of my 4 grandchildren, so I will be "quiet" for a while. I will check my email once a day [I hope] and I will have access to phone messages... but, research and messages to the list may be scant, unless all of you out there take up the slack! Enjoy the silence! Renée

Here are some of my notes on the litle bit of research I do some 10 to 12 years ago on this family. I know there may be some errors in them and would appreciate corrections. Some of this has been posted before. Antonie Valentin Degruy Name appears as Juan Bautista (Jean Baptiste) in Sacramental Records of Archdio. of New Orleans, vol 6, 1796-1799 p. 102/103 (a throwdown name when the priest could not remember a persons name, at least that is what I have read) Baptismal records of children indicate he was a French naval officer, ecuyer, and was a native of Paris, France. From "Village at Chartres," K-185a land sale; Antoine and his mother-in-law purchase a tract of land and windmill from Jean Baptiste Lelande, executed 13 Mar 1748..."unto Dame Maturine Guilmot, wife of Aufrere, merchant in New Orleans, parish of St.Louis, therein residing, trading separately, now in this town of Kaskaskia and Mr. Antoine Valentin De Gruyuerloin, Lord Dumenil-fouchard, Ecuyer Delafolie, officier of a company of infantry detached from the Marine garrisoned in Illinois, residing in this town of Kaskaskia..... This sale is thus made for the sum of three thousand in bonds of the King's treasury and thirteen hundred pounds of flour....and the three thousand livres in bonds said Dame Aufrere promises to pay unto said Lalande; saving recourse for one-half agains De Gruyuerloin her son-in-law, to whom she gives by the presents a delay of two years to repay the same to her... In a deed executed on 10 Jan 1753 (Village of Chartres, p. 576-77 he signs as a witness. From Village of Chartres K-225(H286) p.622 Jaques Hennet and his wife sell land described as follows: "a parcel of land of two arpents in front situated near the old Fort de Chartres, and bounded by it on one end, and on the other end by the depth to the hills, on one side by the land of Mr. le Chevalier Devilliers, and on the other side by the windmill and lot of Mr. De Gruys...." executed 23 Apr 1757 Antoine Valentine was in the Lousiana territory as early as 1742 when he was listed on a list of officers in Louisiana in a letter from Maurepas to Vaudreuil, p.2 LO16, from "The Vaudereuil Papers" In a letter of 1 Jun 1746 from Maurepas to Vaudreuil he was among six promoted to fill vacancies caused by deaths and resignations LO 76 in "The Vaudereuil Papers," he was promoted from 2nd lieutenant to ensign en pied In LO 259 he is mentioned in a list of French troops stationed in New Orleans He was promoted to 2nd lieutenant in 1740; ensign en pied in 1746; lieutenant in 1752; captain in 1759. In a list complied from LO 299 he is listed as second ensign in De Membrede's Company. Later documents in the Vaudreuil Papers indicate that he was in charge of a lead and silver mine in the Illinois country. DEATH: Probably 1759 the year he was promoted to captain since his widow remarried in early 1760 to M. Dessault in Illinois. Marie Therese Aufrere-b.1728, bapt. 29 Dec 1728 d. abt 1774 BAPTISM: First Families of Louisiana, p. 114 DEATH: From Inventory/Partition of Propery, St.Charles Original Acts, 1774 #107 6-30-1774 MARRIAGE: 2) February 18, 1760. Mon. Dussault de la Croix, officer of the troops, son of Dussault de la Croix, chevalier of the order of St. Louis, major of the town of Gap in Dauphine, and Dame Marie Francoise Borel; married Dame Marie Therese Aufrere, widow of Antoine de Gruys, lieutenant of the troops of the marine with Macarty's permission. One ban. From KASKASKIA UNDER THE FRENCH RULE, Natalia Maree Belting, Polyanthos, New Orleans, 1975, p.84 INVENTORY OF THE COMMUNITY PROPERTY OF JOSEPH DUSIAU AND HIS LATE WIFE, THERESE AUFRERE. Upon learning of the death of Therese Aufrere, wife of Joseph Dusiau and widow of DeGruys, Bellile orders that an inventory of the community property be taken. Inventory taken by Glapion and Pierre Rillieux in the presence of Dusiau; Jean-Baptiste DeGruy and Joseph DeGruy, children of the decedent by her former marriage. First item inventoried was a farm 15 arpents wide by the customary depth, located about 30 miles above New Orleans and on the same side of the river, which was the residence of Dusiau. Another farm 10 arpents wide by the customary depth, located about 27 miles above New Orleans on the same side of the river, bounded above by the Degruy minors and below by that of Livaudais. Community debts are owed to: Francois Waldric, Barbet, Allain Lavergne, Pradier (and other names that are illegible). A provisional settlement was made by Madame Dusiau and the children (Degruys) of her first marriage on Dec. 20, 1772. Partition, Dec. 20, 1772. Joseph Dusiau, seeking to conclude his responsibilities as tutor of the children of Degruys, renders an account of his tutorship to the Degruys children, namely: Marie-Therese, Hyacinte, Jean-Baptiste, Joseph, Antoine and Pierre Degruys. Madame Dusiau was formerly married to Degruys. Dusiau, in the presence of Francois Cheval and Jacques Massicot, then sets out the inheritance of the children. Signed by Joseph Dusiiau and his wife Therese Aufrere Dusiau. Also signed by several of the Degruys children.

Welcome Aboard, Bill! Thank you for situating yourself within our Degruy family tree. It makes me think to suggest to other Degruy-L members that if you have not yet done what Bill has in his introductory email, it would be very helpful for us all, if you would also list how you connect. Periodically different Rootsweb "lists" go through a "roll call." This allows the list owner to check emails and see if any email addresses have changed. We haven't be around all that long, so a full roll call isn't necessary. But, again, if you have never placed yourself in the "big" family tree, now would be a good time to do so. Just for your interest and information.... right now we have 13 people subscribed to Degruy-D and 14 subscribed to Degruy-L. I also send my messages to the group to a few other folks who can't handle being on a list at this time.... There are people signed in on the web site who are not subscribed to Degruy-L.... Thought you might like to know. For those who are on Degruy-L who have never checked out our website, contact me offlist and I'll send the simple instructions.... Renée Bill Richardson wrote: > >Hello all, > > I have recently joined the list and have enjoyed reading all of the >archived messages. I wish I had something to contribute but I have been >at a standstill in my research for several years and most of my >information is from secondary sources, albeit good ones. I am a >descended from through his son Joseph and Marie Couturier, then Dominic >and Charlotte Falgout, then Marie Laure and Jean Leon Picou, their son >Leon and Anaise Bouvier, their son Emile Picou and Eva Quebedeau and my >parents Carrol Richardson and Isabel Picou. Dominic was an early >settler in the Lafource region where the name became Degruise. My >mother's maternal line, Quebedeaux, also had its origins in the French >Ilinois with one Joseph Quevedo, dit l'espanol being there as early as >1732 working in the mines. By 1742 he was at Fort Chartres. One of his >sons, Carlos, migrated to Louisiana where the name became Quebedeau(x). > > >I have some primary source information out of Lafource Parish which I >will try and find get posted on the website and will post some other >information from Conrad which I do not believe I have seen on the site >or the list to date. > >Bill Richardson > > > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > >

Hello all, I have recently joined the list and have enjoyed reading all of the archived messages. I wish I had something to contribute but I have been at a standstill in my research for several years and most of my information is from secondary sources, albeit good ones. I am a descended from through his son Joseph and Marie Couturier, then Dominic and Charlotte Falgout, then Marie Laure and Jean Leon Picou, their son Leon and Anaise Bouvier, their son Emile Picou and Eva Quebedeau and my parents Carrol Richardson and Isabel Picou. Dominic was an early settler in the Lafource region where the name became Degruise. My mother's maternal line, Quebedeaux, also had its origins in the French Ilinois with one Joseph Quevedo, dit l'espanol being there as early as 1732 working in the mines. By 1742 he was at Fort Chartres. One of his sons, Carlos, migrated to Louisiana where the name became Quebedeau(x). I have some primary source information out of Lafource Parish which I will try and find get posted on the website and will post some other information from Conrad which I do not believe I have seen on the site or the list to date. Bill Richardson

Gerry Freyder sent me a couple of very interesting emails on le Kintrek....and an interesting link....you might want to check this out: http://search.netscape.com/ns/boomframe.jsp?query=%22Gerard+Pery%22&page=1&offset=0&result_url=redir%3Fsrc%3Dwebsearch%26requestId%3D740a2a2158230546%26clickedItemRank%3D1%26userQuery%3D%2522Gerard%2BPery%2522%26clickedItemURN%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.carencrohighschool.org%252Fla_studies%252FParishSeries%252FStLandryParish%252FPortBarre.htm%26invocationType%3D-%26fromPage%3DNSCPResults%26amp%3BampTest%3D1&remove_url=http%3A %2F%2Fwww.carencrohighschool.org%2Fla_studies%2FParishSeries%2FStLandryParish%2FPortBarre.htm <http://search.netscape.com/ns/boomframe.jsp?query=%22Gerard+Pery%22&page=1&offset=0&result_url=redir%3Fsrc%3Dwebsearch%26requestId%3D740a2a2158230546%26clickedItemRank%3D1%26userQuery%3D%2522Gerard%2BPery%2522%26clickedItemURN%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.carencrohighschool.org%252Fla_studies%252FParishSeries%252FStLandryParish%252FPortBarre.htm%26invocationType%3D-%26fromPage%3DNSCPResults%26amp%3BampTest%3D1&remove_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.carencrohighschool.org%2Fla_studies%2FParishSeries%2FStLandryParish%2FPortBarre.htm>

Hi, Just a quick FYI.... Antoine Valentin deGruÿsverloin appears several times [pages: 10, 87, 145-6, 151, 155-56, 199] in Carl J. Ekberg's book: COLONIAL STE. GENEVIEVE: AN ADVENTURE ON THE MISSISSIPPI FRONTIER, Patrice Press: Tucson, Arizona, 1996. The topic is mostly about Antoine's mining activities. When I have time, I may transcribe these references and put them under "History: Transcriptions from Printed Sources" on our Degruy Family Collaboration Web Site Regarding the web site: a reminder that it is a collaboration and that you are invited to submit BMD records, family stories and legends, photographs. If you don't have the technology to scan and email items to us, you can snail mail and we'll do the scanning and uploading for you. We can use your help.... obtaining records from the Louisiana Archives is relatively inexpensive [although even that adds up]; however, obtaining records from the Archdiocese of NO is quite expensive. So...... if you have any B, M or Interment records from the Archives and can contribute a copy [hard or scanned], it will go a long way to helping us with the costs of producing this web site. As you can imagine, we have fewer records of earlier ancestors than later ones... so those are especially valuable. So please consider giving us a helping hand. We are committed to putting as much primary data on our site as possible as that is the best way to "prove" our connections. And ask your relatives... perhaps some Degruy cousins without computer access may have BMD records. You might want to check the web site before sending... or asking Celine or me over email.... no point in your duplicating something we already have uploaded to the site. Thanks, Renée

On our Degruy Family Collaboration web site, there is a photograph of a gentleman in a uniform at one of the annual Fort de Chartres reenactments which are usually held every summer [ a mini Williamsburg!]. Beside and under it I've made a note saying: Description: To appreciate this reenactment costume properly, check out the article by Robert de Berardinis, OMPL in "Mississippi Valley Mélange, Volume IV [Winston de Ville], entitled: "The Order of St. Louis." On pages 15-16 there are several photographs of crosses and colliers, including: the Cross of the Order of St. Louis, Grade of Chevalier; Collier of the Order of St. Lazaire; Collier of the Order of St. Michel and Collier of the Order of St. Esprit. And another note saying: David Perrin tells me that our Antoine should have received the Order of St. Louis since he was a Captain in 1759. Perhaps this never happened because Antoine died sometime between July and September of that year. David thinks this could be done posthumously and that we would have to go through the French Embassy. Anyone want to volunteer to follow up on this????? In a recent email correspondence with historian Carl Ekberg [the author of, among others, a book on "Colonial Ste. Genevieve", Dr. Ekberg told me that: Legislation is now going through Congress to designate a "French Colonial Heritage National Historic Site", centered on Ste. Genevieve, as part of the National Park System. This is being pushed by, among others, a group of French aristocrats led by the Princess Marie-Sol de La Tour d'Auvergne. She, the French ambassador, and Senator Talent are hosting a reception in Washington on April 20. Anyone on our list have connections with or know about any of this? We could convince these "French aristocrats" that attention should be paid to our Antoine for the contribution he made.... that a highway sign should be erected [idea of Carl Ekberg's, see below] and that he should receive the Order of St. Louis posthumously..... This is based on another comment made by Ekberg in another email: I've often thought that the State of Missouri should have a historic marker somewhere along de Gruy's route of exploration, for his description of that part of the State of Missouri is the earliest--by far--that exists. Somewhere where his route crosses what is now a Missouri highway the Department of Highways should erect a sign, for, when one thinks a bit about it, de Gruy was to Missouri what Lewis and Clark were to Louisiana. Keep in mind that Antoine's journal, which was sent to France and which contained geographical descriptions of the area he was exploring in his search for mineral riches for France became the basis of a map created by a French cartographer [possibly the same one that appears in Ekberg's article on our ancestor]. So Antoine made a contribution to the geographical understanding of the New World. It's just that no one has appreciated and acknowledged his contributions.... Let's all think about the significance of these facts and consider what could be done to, for the sake of history, bring attention to his efforts. Renée

Got this yesterday from Conrad's First Families of Louisiana, Volume II, page 16: "Beginning on the east side of the river [approximately in the present-day area of Napolen Avenue, New Orleans. Ed. Note] [Name] LE QUINTREC. Jean Joseph [Age] 27 [Comments] Native of the Bishopric of Quimper in Brittany. He lives on land owned by M. Bienville. His wife is with him. He also serves in the Swiss Company." Renee ps: to give background for Jean Joseph: I have Marianne Couturier's [wife of Joseph Verloin Degruy] parents as being Sieur Pierre Couturier [Surgeon Major of the Fourth Company of the Swiss Regiment of Karrer] and Marie Françoise Dupont - Le Kintrek. I have Pierre's parents as Bernard [Benoist] Couturier and Marie David. I have Marie Francoise's parents as Jean Joseph Dit Dupont [?] Le Kintrek and Anne Marie Posse [Doss?] Hopf. Is that what you all have? Some of these names have been driving me nuts... Is Marie Francoise's last name Dupont or Le Kintrek.... Does Dupont also belong to Jean Joseph, or just to Marie Francoise? In searching for her records, do I look under D or L or K? Also, what does anyone have for Anne Marie? What kind of name is Posse? Hopf? I've never seen these anywhere. And what does Doss have to do with it? Following are the notes I have for Jean Joseph Dupont Le Kintrek. Anyone have anything else? Imperial St. Landry Parish St Landry Church click for larger view St. Landry Parish was named for the Catholic Church Parish that was established about 1767 in the Opelousas Territory and named for St. Landry, the Bishop of Paris who served in 650 AD. Photo to the left is of the present St. Landry Catholic Church building soon after it was constructed in 1908. The building sits of the same site that was donated to the church by Michel Prudhomme in 1798. - Carola L. Hartley - Established by a legislative act approved on April 10, 1805, St. Landry Parish (first called Opelousas County) derived its name from the Catholic church of the old Opelousas Post, named for St. Landry, a Bishop of Paris in 650 AD. However, the history of the area goes back many centuries before the parish was officially created. Many, many years ago the first humans settled in the territory of the present parish of St. Landry. Although not much is known about these prehistoric Louisiana inhabitants, anthropologists say they arrived in the area over 12,000 years ago. Archaeologists have identified 110 prehistoric dwelling sites in the parish, three dating back to the Paleo-Indians of Louisiana who lived in the area as early as 10,500 BC. During the historic period (after 1500 AD), Attakapa Indians roamed the area of St. Landry Parish. One band, the Opelousas, eventually gained control of the land. The city of Opelousas, the seat of the parish, takes its name from this tribe. The history of the parish and the history of the state as we know it today began in 1519 when Alvarez explored the gulf coast. Desoto, from Spain, explored in 1541, and in 1682, Robert Cavalier Sieur de la Salle descended the Mississippi, claiming the territory for France and naming it "Louisiana" in honor of King Louis XIV. The first white man to walk on the land of St. Landry Parish was probably French. According to local legend, that was about 1690. Several years later, the French government of Louisiana established Poste des Opelousas in the territory of the Opelousas Indians. The post became a stopping point for overland travelers going between Natchitoches and New Orleans. When Jean Joseph LeKintrek and Joseph Blanpain formed a partnership to handle trade with the Opelousas Indians in the 1740s, they settled in Opelousas, along with their three Black slaves, who became the first Africans to arrive in the area. The Spanish took over Louisiana and Opelousas in 1762. During this period Spanish settlers joined the French inhabitants of Opelousas. It was also during this time that some of the French Acadians, deported by the English from Nova Scotia, Canada, came into the area. In the census of the Opelousas Post taken in 1771, there were ten Acadian families listed as living in Opelousas. succession of Joseph Le Kintreck in 1753 surname Dupont is reported in NO GEN #2 page 330 [Index to Fr and Sp Translations]

Hi, Saw this in ANOSR #12 [1751-1771] Pery Francois Valentin [Gerard and Francoise Aufrere], b. July 19, 1756, bn. Oct. 31, 1755, s. Antoine Valentin DEGRUY VERLOINS, officer of the detached troops in this colony, and Francoise Helene PELLERIN, sp. MACARTY [@DE MACARTI], captain of the troops [SLC, B3, 60]. Anyone have information on Gerard and Francoise Aufrere and how they link to us.... how linked to Marie Therese? I thought her parents were Antoine Francois Aufrere and Marie Mathurine Guillemet [Guilmot] dit La Lande.... So... who are Gerard and Francoise Aufrere... and what is Antoine's relationship to them????????? Anybody know? Anyone have Antoine in the records of other affiliated names? Renée

David Perrin had always told me that Antoine died sometime between July and September of 1959, he thought in the French-Indian war. I had seen 1759 many times but I had never known where the "between July and September" came from...... [Remember that recently Carl Ekberg has suggested that maybe he died around Niagara]. Today I have an annotation to go with that, should any of you be interested. When I went to Illinois to retrieve the records recommended by Robert de Bernardinis... one of the items I photocopied was a letter from Michel to Rouille dated January 22, 1750. And in a footnote to that letter which identified "M. de Gruis, one of the officers of that post", the following was written: "Antoine Valentine de Gruis Verloin. Ensign en second, October 1, 1740; ensign en pied, June 1, 1746; lieutenant, October 15, 1752; captain July 1, 1759. A N Colonies D2C4. As early as 1743 he appears in various financiual transactions connected with the exploitation of the lead mines of the Illinois. In 1746 his partnership in it with Declozeau was wound up. Louisiana Historical Quarterly, 14:253; 16:337-338. His death occurred sometime between July and September 1759. A N Colonies D2C52: 125-125v" This comes from Volume XXIX of the Illinois Historical Collections; Ellinois on the Eve of the Seven Years' Warr 1741-1755, edited by Theodore Pease and Jenison. Now, as happy as I am to have that citation... I still wonder.... where is his death recorded in military records????? I cannot believe that they did not record some mention of his death... even if it was heresay and he died on some battlefield. If anyone has any ideas about this, please speak up. Renée

What do you think about this.... I recently came across the following: Found in the Selected Papers of Winston de Ville on page 69 XIII New Orleans Baptisms: 1728 July 15 [1728] Marie Françoise Le Kintrek this was found In Etat-Civil de Louisiane; certified by Fr. Raphael de Luxembourg and is dated 24 April 1729. Original Document is found in AC, G1 412, f. 68-69 v. According to Fr. Raphael, this list was taken directly from the New Oleans baptismal register, which has not survived. Now, I had originally had the date of 15 Jul 1706 for her birthdate.... which would mean that if she would have died in 1756, she would have only been 28 instead of 49. Also on page 70 of this the date is Decc 29 1728 for Marie Therese Aufrere.... Whaddya think? Renee

Good Morning, Well, I've been very quiet lately but not because I haven't been busy. After making a return trip to Fort de Chartres, Fort Kaskaskia, the Pierre Menard Home and Kaskaskia Island, I made yet another trip to Illinois, this time taking a more northeasterly route. This trip was occasioned by my receiving help during the week from two historians: Carl Ekberg and Robert de Berardinis. de Berardinis gave me many citations to research and many of these were not available to me at my local library. So rather than wait forever for my Interlibrary Loan folks to come up with these many citations, I decided to drive to Illinois and "Go Fetch." So I headed to Belleville's Public Library, the oldest public library in Illinois. [I also made a side trip to the Library at Cahokia because they had a very elusive book I hadn't been able to find elsewhere; more about that later] At the Belleville library I was able to retrieve all of de Berardinis articles save one, most of his articles having been written in the Illinois State Genealogical Society Quarterly. De Berardinis' research was made from original French documents which are found in even more difficult locations for me to access: Canada, Clayton Library in Houston, Louisiana and Paris; and his articles are translations from these French originals . So working with DeBerardinis' materials were are as close as we can get to primary data found in obscure locations. I've just started working with some of these materials today and immediately I've come up with mysteries and enigmas. I'm going to include an example below. Other "installments" will come as I work with the stack of materials I have obtained. De Berardinis' first Article: The 1762 Pay Book of French Troops in Illinois found in Illinois State Genealogical Society Quarterly Vol 31, No. 4, Winter 1999 by Robert de Berardinis. The source for this material derives from: Archives colonies, D 2C [Juillet-Novembre, 1762] Library of Congress microform publication, "Louisiana Colonial Records Project," [1965] Note: "The pay book records are from the official military records, thus, these documents meet the criteria of "best record" 2 and "primary evidence"3 and required by Noel Stevenson and Elizabeth Mills. [Noel C. Stevenson, Genealogical Evidence: A Guide to the Standard of Proof Relating to the Pedigrees, Ancestry, Heirship and Family History, revised edition (Laguna HIlls, CA: Aegean Park Press, 1989) 184; 185-87. Also, for analysis of evidence see Elizabeth Mills. Evidence! Citation and Analysis for the Family Historian (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1997), pp. 44-61. The document is only one of six concerning pay records among five registers of provincial military records at the archives d'outre-mer [archives colonies] of the French archives nationales. 4 Archives colonies, D 2C, registeres 50, 51, 52, 54, and 59. [There is another register, 10, in this sub series, but it is not available except on a consultation basis, in person, at the Archives d'outre-mer in Aix-en-Provance. Descendants of French enlisted personnel In this article by deBerardinis, on page 236, There is a Pierre degruis shown as a Rifleman. He is in the Company of de Noyon In the Archives colonies, D 2C [Juillet-Novembre, 1762] Illinois 1762 Salary [for Pierre Degruis] of the troops for the months of July, August, September, October, and November was JUL AUG SEP OCT NOV SUM #.S #.S #.S #.S #.S #.S 12.15 12.15 12.15 12.15 12.15 63.15 # = livres S = sols, 20 sols = 1 livre ------------- Keep in mind that Antoine had died between July and September of 1759. So who was this Pierre Degruis who is being paid for his service? Antoine and Marie Therese Aufrere's children at this time would have been quite young; Pierre Dumini, for example, in 1762 would have only been 5 years old (if the birth date of 13 Sep 1757 [some have 15]is accurate.) Moreover Marie Therese had remarried Dusuau by this time and she, Dusuau and their family had probably moved back to St. Charles Parish. So who is this Pierre Degruis? Could our Antoine have had a brother there? Could this be a totally unrelated Degruy? Any thoughts? ---------------- Another mystery On page 240 of the same article, under the Company of Belnos, and listed under Riflemen, there is a Jean Valentin degruis Cadet. Under the same pay scale, he is listed as having received: JUL AUG SEP OCT NOV SUM #.S #.S #.S #.S #.S #.S 4.10 "." "." "." "." 4.10 Now I had Jean Baptiste Valentin's birth/bapt dates as 16 Mar 1751 and 8 May 1751. So, in 1762 he would have been only 11. Would they have allowed 11 year olds to serve in the military? What is going on here? Any ideas? This is entry #1... More will follow... But want to give you time to think about this and come up with some thoughts as to what might be going on here...based on the entries in the pay books and the tender ages of Degruy's children at this time. Rene'e

Hi, I'm sending out a call to Degruy-L to anyone who might be in the Houston area... and who could go to the Clayton Library and retrieve some of the documents listed below in this email I received from Robert de Berardinis, one of the premier historians who has done research on the Fort de Chartres area. He gives specific citations for documents which can only be obtained by personally going to the Clayton Library. As I have no idea when I could make that trip, I thought that perhaps someone local could do this at their convenience. I'd be happy to reimburse you for expenses incurred. Here's the information.... in case there is someone out there for whom this would be possible. Thanks, Renee Dear Renée, See below for your two questions. The Illinois State Genealogical Society Journal from 1999 on to about 2003 has all my stuff on Illinois. Book with many translated records coming out when I index the 600+ pages. As to reading the journal, might I suggest finding a good translation (from Ill State Historical Soc. Journal) and using it side by side with journal. In the 18th Century, French was spelled phonetically by the writer, even écrivains. As Winston taught me, "You learn by doing." The abbreviations are the worst, but in journals, there shouldn't be any. The Canadian National Archives has an index to Colonies B, there may be one or two in Illinois. Check not only de Gruys (how he called himself), but Illinois, Kaskaskia, Missouris, Ft. Chartres, and the officers he served under as well such as Macarty. Then order the film. Same with C13. Get that film from Loyola Univ of New Orleans (for free). Colonies E has an index of dossiers on Archivianet at Canadian National Archives web site. See if he or wife is in there (should be as I recall). Then order film--archivianet will give you roll number. Clayton will not ILL-you must come to beautiful Houston. Also, Clayton has largest collection of Cuban Papers in U.S., so you can kill two birds with one stone. robert and in another email he give more specific references: You also need to check Colonies C 13 (index is by Menier) and Colonies B. At Clayton we have complete run of Colonies D 2C and D 2D as well as Colonies F5B-the ship passenger lists made by Naval Ministry. How's that for starters? robert

Happy Easter to All Degruy Researchers, I've been a busy little genealogy bumble bee flitting from flower to flower... gathering honey-data. I made a second trip to the area of our Illinois heritage: went through the Pierre Menard Home down the hill from Fort Kaskaskia; got a list of everyone buried at Garrison Hill [didn't find any relatives on the list]; drove across the river to Kaskaskia, which now, because of the Mississippi surgical activity has isolated it from the Illinois side... It was once a peninsula and is now an island. Long trip... saw the rebuilt Immaculate Conception church where Aufrere married de la Croix....saw the Liberty Bell of the West.... but everything was locked up.. so didn't get inside. Came home and emailed Winston de Ville [Mr. De Ville is such a sweetheart and has been continually so very kind in helping] who kindly forwarded a message to great historians : Carl J. Ekberg and Robert de Berardinis. Each has responded with helpful information. de Berardinis gave me several important references to research. Ekberg, you may remember, is the person who wrote the 13 or so page article on Antoine for the Missouri Historical Review. I hope to upload that to the web site eventually. The big news is that Ekberg translated our GGGGGG???? Grandfather's journal in that article!... so we don't have to pay someone to translate all those pages I took digital copies of which are now on our website. I will try to get this translation online sometime this week. I hope you will enjoy the following forward of a correspondence between Ekberg and me. Note his suggestion that perhaps Antoine died far from home!.... Niagara! I just can conceive why his death isn't noted in some military documents. Wouldn't you think the military would have some obligation to note when an officer had died in action? Also... anyone with any political clout who could get a sign made noting our ancestor's contribution to Missouri history. I live in Missouri but am totally sans clout! Anyway... soon you will have Antoine's own words to read. [Those of you to whom I have already sent copies of this article already have this.] I've had it all along but didn't realize this was a translation of the pages I had photographed at the Illinois Historical Collection. If you haven't you really ought to take a look at our web site... over 197 primary documents and lots of other goodies. Also I have created an Illinois timeline for Degruy which traces the years he was there and the order of records about his activity there. Celine will get that uploaded soon along with some photographs of Fort de Chartres and its museum which I took on my second trip. [Thanks, Celine!] To get on the Degruy Family Collaboration Web Site: go to degruy.myfamily.com logon as degruyguest use the password verloin It's easy. Renée Renee to Dr. Ekberg: Thanks so much... I truly value the perspective of a notable historian who has researched this ancestor of ours. I am eager to share your email with "cousins." That would be quite a project: to get a sign erected along a Missouri highway. Perhaps I will "ask around" as to how this might effected. I'm also overwhelmed that you have done this translation. What a contribution. I have wills written in French script that reduce me to tears trying to translate.... :-) between the script and the early French! Degruy's penmanship is excellent compared with many others.. but working with copies - even digital ones - are a challenge, to say the least. Kudos for you for being able to accomplish this translation. Again, I appreciate your input. Renée Carl J. Ekberg wrote: > > > Renée: > > Yes, that is indeed a direct translation of de Gruy's memoir--and > I very accurate one, if I may say so! I've often thought that the > State of Missouri should have a historic marker somewhere along de > Gruy's route of exploration, for his description of that part of the > State of Missouri is the earliest--by far--that exists. Somewhere > where his route crosses what is now a Missouri highway the Department > of Highways should erect a sign, for, when one thinks a bit about it, > de Gruy was to Missouri what Lewis and Clark were to Louisiana. > > > It's been more than twenty years since I worked on de Gruy, and I > can't remember when his trial dies out in the local records of the > Illinois Country. Some men from Illinois went east and fought at the > battle of Niagara in 1759, and many of them, including officers, were > killed. That's a conceivable possibility--if it can be ascertained > that de Gruy was still alive in early 1759. I just noticed (Belting, > p. 84) that de Gruy's widow got married in February 1760, which means > this is a very real possibility. > > > Cordially, Carl Ekberg

These are records received from Judy Riffel. Within the next week they should be scanned and uploaded onto the web site. [I really wish I could have words with the person who wrote the data into all these records....I'd love to ask him what he was doing during his penmanship classes, as he obviously wasn't paying any attention to what was being taught!] RECORDS FROM JUDY RIFFEL ENTERED 3-20-05 DC De Gruy Francois Edy 05 yrs - W 07/08/1861 21 523 “Deceased was the legitimate of the marriage of Onesis De Gruy with Louise Faust? [can’t read could be Jacet] NOTE: handwritten record says 8 June 1861. Archives or Nova record has 8 July 1861. MC Marmillion A. B. -- Gruy Clementine V. De -- 02/20/1871 2 32 AB is said to be son of E B Marmillion and Zoé Luminais?; Clementine V is said to be daughter of L? V Degruy and Anais F. Foachere?. Witnesses F? Verloin DeGruy, Ed Girard, Geor E Forstall, Chas DeGruy MC Fazende L. J. -- Gruy Jeanne V. De -- 02/26/1876 5 554 L.J. is the son of ? Fazende and Caroline Desmaré; Jeanne V is the daughter of ?OV DeGruy and Laure Josephine Harang. Witnesses ?? Forstall, ?? Degruy, Marie Forstall DC 1876 Orleans Parish Death Index - A through D Degruy Henry 48 yrs - - 7/14/1876 66 708 [hard to read: may have died at 419 Craps Street. Cause of Death Cancer of the Intestines] MC Seghers D. E. Gruy Alice V. De -- 08/28/1876 5 764 D E is son of ? Julian? Seghers and Virginie ?Deiffel?; Alice V is daughter of Jules V De Gruy and Angelle Boisblanc. Witnesses: B Boisblanc, Julien D Seghers; L V. DeGruy MC Mitchell Frank L. 29 Gruy Julia Zoe De 24 06/01/1878 6 791 Frank L. was 29, a native of Kentucky, the son of Leonard F. Mitchell and Mary Ann Mitchell born Burk. Julia Zoé De Gruy was 24 and the daughter of Joseph C. DeGruy and Leonie St. Amant. Witnesses J. C? De Gruy, A. Bertel, A. A. Bozant, D. A. Dimitry. MC De Gruy Casimir Verloin -- M -Marie Amanda Theriot -- 03/03/1883 9 825 Casimir was 33, the son of Emile Verloin DeGruy and Elise Foucher. Marie Amanda Theriot was 29, a native of St. James Parish, La, the daughter of Pierre Sosthene Theriot and Idea Desiree Derbes. Witnesses: S. Theriot, J. J. Foucher, G. Jaquet, Etienne Theriot. MC Durand Leticia 22 De Gruy Francois, Jr. 30 11/24/1883 10 276 François is the son of François DeGruy and Julia Bonant; Letitia is the daughter of François Durand and Cecile Porée. Witnesses: Chs. DeGruy, F. Durand, Joseph Chauvin, Jr. MC Harang Charles Henry -- Gruy Elmire Verloin De -- 01/23/1884 10 407 Charles Henry was the son of Louis Harang and Sophie Bouligny; Elmire Verloin was the daughter of Antoine DeGruy and Laure Harang. Witnesses: G B. Bruslé, Wm de Monnier, E. E. Zebel, F. B. Vinot, Jr, ? Sam Neil, G W? Prados. MC Davenport Marie Gabrielle -- De Gruy Rene Verloin -- 07/02/1885 11 325 René Verloin was the son of Theophile V. DeGruy and Anais Foucher; Marie Gabrielle Devenport [sic] was the daughter of Edgard Devenpot and Eulalie Culbertson. Witnesses: E Devenport, W. Gourdain, J. K. Gourdain, Sidney E. Jaquet. MC De Gruy A. V., Jr. -- M -Daisy Belle Beebe -- 03/18/1889 13 708 A. V. was the son of A. V,. De Gruy and Laure Harang. Daisy Belle Beebe was the daughter of Henry Beebe and Emelia Belle Coulter. Witnesses: A. V. De Gruy, L. J. Fazende, P. H. Mars. MC De Gruy Gabriel Verloui 40 M -Corinne Jeanne Mazerat 19 04/22/1889 13 755 Gabriel Verloui [sic] De Gruy was 40, son of Theophile Verlni [sic] De Gruy and Felicite Anais Foucher. Corinne Jeanne Mazerat was 19, daughter of Antoine Mazerat and Virginie Godefroy. Witnesses: Francis De Gruy, Charles De Gruy, Victor Baudier MC De Gruy Francois Verloin 41 M -Alix Gaiennie 20 04/22/1893 16 762 Francois Verloin was 41, son of Francois Verloin De Gruy and Felicite Foucher. Alix Gaiennie was 20, son of Florestan Gaiennie and Alix Fazende. Witnesses: E. Landry Jr, J H? Gainnie, J C? D’Aquin, J. A. V DeGruy, Chas Cormier MC Desmare Louis J. 23 M - Antonia De Gruy 24 09/07/1893 17 11 Louis, 23 years, was the son of Alphonse Desmare and Estelle Vanhille??. Antonia was 24, the daughter of James DeGruy and Amanda Sauton. Witnesses: James DeGruy, J. Fred Colomb, J. Desmares, Thomas J. Boyle. MC Ray Eugene 25 Gruy Lucie De 22 09/20/1893 17 37 Eugene, 25, a native of Monroe, La was the son of John Ray and Cathering Bres?. Lucie DeGruy was 22, daughter of James V. DeGruy and Louise A Sauton. Witnesses: Geo A. Cooper, Henrietta Hecht, Gaston Schmitz. MC Rene Verloin Degruy, 36, was the son of Theophile Verloin DeGruy and Anais Verloin Degruy. Justine Marcade [widow of Louis? Veillion?] was 33 and daughter of Jacques Mardcade and Julie Abbot. They were married 15 Dec 1896. Witnesses: Joseph Verloin Degruy, Zacharie Marcade, Will Evans, Sidney E. Degruy. MC Melbourne Harry T. 26 M - Kinta De Gruy 18 07/28/1898 20 780 Harry, 26, was a native of Bay St. Louis, Miss and the son of Harry C. Melbourne and Fannie Teitchel? Kinta DeGruy was 18, the daughter of Horace L. DeGruy and Henriette Harvey. Witnesses: Charles Hanek, Mrs. Chs. Hanch. MC Ferrandou Edward F. 25 Gruy Alice Andree De 19 04/19/1899 21 376 Edward was the son of Auguste Ferrandon and Amelie St. Marc. Alice Andreé DeGruy was the daughter of James Verloin DeGruy and Amanda Sauton. Witnesses: A. Ferrandon, J. V. Degruy, Alfred Ferrandon. MC Francois Mary 23 De Gruy Charles 30 06/06/1899 21 479 Charles was the son of Charles DeGruy and Lena? DeGruy. Mary François was the daughter of Frank FRancis and Francis? Witnesses: Corinne Ferrand, John Boyd, Batiste ? MC Rigob August V. -- M - Louise Verloin DeGruy -- 11/15/1900 22 584 August was the son of Antoine Rigob and Clemence Vogt. Louise Verloin was the daughter of Joseph Verloin DeGruy and Josephine A Foucher. Witnesses: Marie Rigob, Philip Heild, Mark Anuedo?, F. T. Gerard? MC De Gruy E. Sidney 31 M -Mildred H. Brand 27 04/18/1901 22 943 Sidney was the son of Chaarles DeGruy and Anais V. DeGruy. Mildred was the daughter of CHarles W. Brand and Mary M. Harrell.Witnesses: MC Cressy Maxime Armand 20 M - Eulalie Verloin De Gruy 17 12/10/1903 25 438 Maxime ARmand Cressy was the son of John M. Cressy and Louise Infante. Eulalie Verloin DeGruy was the daughter of René DeGruy and Gabrielle Davenport. Witnesses: J. M. Cressy, Rene Verloin DeGruy., A. J. Carriere, Chas H. Peuissegur? MC MC Poree Ambroace -- M -Mrs. Francis De Gruy -- 09/17/1906 28 312 Ambroace was the son of Antoine Porée and Bridget Wisor??? Letitia Durand [divorced wife of Francis DeGruy] was the daughter of Renade? Durant and Celilia Porée. Witnesses: Moliere A Duversnay, Richard L Porée, G W Peondas? MC Nunes Victor George 32 M - Elizabeth Lydia DeGruy 30 12/06/1905 27 413 Victor was the son of Leon Nunes and Marie Martin. Elizabeth Lydia DeGruy was the daughter of Charles DeGruy and Anais V. DeGruy. Witnesses: Charles DeGruy, Robert ? MC De Gruy Paul 29 M - Lucy Reilly 27 09/27/1906 28 371 Paul is the son of Charles DeGruy and Felicite Anais Verloin DeGruy. Lucy Reilly was the daughter of Thomas Reilly and Mary Fessy? Ferry?. Witnesses: Charles DeGruy, J. P. Casey, John Fessy, Alin Ferry? S. E. Degruy MC DeGruy Louis Verloin 23 M - Marie Louise Mestayer 20 10/30/1907 29 585 Louis was the son of Octave Verloin and Odille Marie Derbes. Marie Louise Mestayer was the daughter of Henry Mestayer and Marie Louise Richard. Witnesses: J. E. Gray, O V Degruy, W Mestayer. MC Carter Frank 37 M - Louise De Gruy 38 12/17/1906 28 620 Frank was the son of James Careter and Antoinette Carter. Louise was the daughter of Louis and Elixabeth. Witnesses: Richard Sheppard, Elodie Johnson, Jules Andrew, ? Banks. MC Degruy Joseph 31 M - Olivia Adams 25 02/29/1908 29 991 Joseph was the son of Jonville? DeGruy and Octavia Lesage? Olivia Adams was the daughter of Les? Adams and Malvina Polar? Witnesses: George Velay? Cecil Adams, Edward Adams. MC Degruy George 30 M - Alicia Lawrence 22 10/23/1909 31 641 George was the son of Jenull? DeGruy and Octave Lesage? Alicia Lawrence was the daughter of Jules A Lawrence and Cahterine Dauterive. Witnesses: A Laurence, E J Lanotta, Arthur Lawrence MC Gaudet Charles Joseph Alfred 29 M -Anita Verloin De Gruy 22 0l/26/1910 31 921 Charles was the son of N? D. Gaudet and Henriette Huebet Kernion? Anita Verloin DeGruy was the daughter of Octave Verloin DeGruy and Odile Derbes. Witnesses: O V Degruy, A Hollinger, G Gaudet, J. V. DeGruy. MC Dykstra Frank Joseph 24 M - Addie Pearl DeGruy 20 02/28/1910 32 4 Frank was a native of Buffalo, New York. he was the son of F. Dykstra and Mary Cennas? Addie Pearl DeGruy was a native of Gretna, daughter of Stephen V Degruy and Bettie Wrigley? Witnesses: E.Reach, Grace Eidinger, A V DeGruy. MC DeGruy John Rudolphe 31 M - Catherine Hoerner 24 04/17/1911 33 185 John was a native of Mobile, Ala, son of J? DeGruy and Margaret Shaw. Catherine Hoerner was daughter of Ed? Hoerner and Len? [Wolfer?] Spuber? E Hoerner, Francis Leffs, Edwin Hoerner, E. J. Hassel. MC De Gruy James Verloin 36 M - Felicie Frigerio 29 08/07/1911 33 534 James was the son of J. V. DeGruy and Amanda Sauton. Felicie Frigerio was the natughter of Placide Frigerio and Josephine Gaibisa? Witnesses: F. J. Streap?, P. Frye, L. Cazenavettes MC De Gruy Eugene 23 M - Noelie Marie Roussel 21 12/13/1911 33 888 Eugene was the son of Toussaint? DeGruy and Nathalie Leon. Noelie Marie Roussel was the daughter of Ernest Roussel and Angelina Bernis? Witnesses: A. Godegroy, S. DeGruy, M M? MC Planchard Darcourt 38 M - Regina Philimena De Gruy 40 12/04/1912 34 967 Darcourt was the son of D. Planchard and Emma Barreres? REgina Philimena was the daughter of Let. DeGruy and Anais Degruy. Witnesses: M. Neman? A. Mazerat. ? ?

Forgot to give you citations for previous records: [TXT] prbt861.txt <http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/la/jefferson/wills/prbt861.txt> [TXT] prbt862.txt <http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/la/jefferson/wills/prbt862.txt> And... here's some more DeGruy, Antoine Onezine prbt865.txt 280 S DeGruy, Clementine Verloin prbt876.txt 3056 S DeGruy, Etienne prbt885.txt 566 S DeGruy, Jean Baptiste prbt861.txt 30 S DeGruy, Joseph Verloin, Mrs. prbt868.txt 4056 S DeGruy, Mrs. Joseph Verloin prbt870.txt 286 S DeGruy, Theo. Verloin, Mrs. prbt892.txt 1852 S DeGruy, Zuline prbt887.txt 1026 S [TXT] prbt867.txt <http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/la/jefferson/wills/prbt867.txt> 779 Badou, Felicie S 00/00/1835 1st 04025683934867 12 8 -- -- -- -- Mrs. Foucher nee Felicity Badou. Her daughter, Felicity, wed Francois Verloin DeGruy. Her daughter, Josephine, wed C V DeGruy. Her sons are: John Joseph, Pierre D., & Antoine Foucher. NOTE Faubourg Saulet was where the Crescent City connection is today on the east bank. prbt868.txt <http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/la/jefferson/wills/prbt868.txt> 4056 Couturier, Marianne S 03/29/1830 1st 04025693934868 37 9 -- -- yes 7 000454 4056 DeGruy, Joseph Verloin, Mrs. S 03/29/1830 1st 04025693934868 54 9 07/24/1829 -- Petitioner: Joseph Verloin Degruy, Jr. He requests inventory which is recorded in the presence of: Jos. V. Degruy; Pierre Verloin Degruy (represented by attorney Etienne Degruy); Josephine Gewin (?) widow of Antoini Dufouchar Degruy acting as tutrix of her minors, Marie Doralis and Louisa Dufouchar Degruy; Leonide Verloin Degruy wife of Michel St. Amand. Also present: Dolphine Verloin Degruy wife of Philippe Boutte and Charles Derbigny their attorney; Duminil Verloin Degruy represented by attorney Francois Verloin, all heirs. One slave in Natchez. No land or home is mentioned in this docket, only slaves. [TXT] prbt870.txt <http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/la/jefferson/wills/prbt870.txt> 286 DeGruy, Mrs. Joseph Verloin S 05/07/1849 3rd 04025713934870 286 11 -- -- 15 -- 286 Saulet, Marie Heloise S 05/07/1849 3rd 04025713934870 219 11 -- -- -- -- Joseph, Paul Emile, Theohile, Anthyme, Camille, Jules, Virginie Mrs Paul Jules Fazende, Corinne Mrs Gustave Jacquet, Estelle Mrs Francois Fazende, Laure Mrs Etienne DeGruy; Clementine (dec'd) & Louis Alexander Harang's children are Clemence & Clementine. [TXT] prbt876.txt <http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/la/jefferson/wills/prbt876.txt> 3056 DeGruy, Clementine Verloin S 04/16/1849 3rd 04025773934876 55 17 02/01/1849 3064 Saulet, Balthazar S 06/23/1849 3rd 04025773934876 219 17 06/05/1849 000687 Widow: Marguerite Clementine Fortier. Seals not placed until 6/11/1849. 8 Children. Oldest "of age" (21 or over) is Marie Felzine Saulet. 7 Minor children: Jacques Alfred, Marie Asinore, Felicite Blanche, Marie Azilie, Pierre Phelote, Marie Noemie, Adilaide Leona. 000616 [TXT] prbt877.txt <http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/la/jefferson/wills/prbt877.txt> 4050A Boutte, Philippi S 07/11/1846 3rd 04025783934877 13 18 03/23/1846 000541 Died in New Orleans, book G, folio 58. Son of Jean Baptiste Boutte. His wife, Dauphin Verloin DeGruy, daughter of Pierre Verloin Degruy) died in Gretna 08/27/1845. Petitioner/daughter, Philimene Boutte, has 7 children: Leapold; Virginie, wife of J. Delpit (?); Evelina, wife of F. DeGruy; Armantine, wife of F Ottis; Elodie, wife of A. Boudier; and minors Armand Boutte & Delphine Boutte. [TXT] prbt885.txt <http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/la/jefferson/wills/prbt885.txt> 566 DeGruy, Etienne S Nov 1855 3rd 04025863934885 26 10/18/1855 Frieburg yes 7 000155 Petitioner/widow: Marie Laure. Daughter: Josephine Laure is 18. Cousin: William L. Duffy. Etienne DeGruy was 54 years old. He owned 20 lots in the Faubourg of "Fribourg." 300' front on Pine and Broadway by 240' front on Oak and Magnolia streets. 300' front on Pine and Lower Line by 240' front on Oak and Magnolia. 300' front on Pine and Lower Line by 240' front on Oak and Warsaw. 300' front on Pine and Broadway by 240' front on Oak and Warsaw. NOTE Frieburg, was from Lowerline to Walnut & Third to Mobile street. NOTE The streets are now: Magnolia (Zimple), Warsaw (Plum), Third (Freret) Mobile (Claiborne). 628 De La Croix, Mrs. Bathazard Dusuan S 01/17/1856 3rd 04025863934885 26 01/02/1856 000380 628 Dusan, Mrs. Bathzard S 01/17/1856 3rd 04025863934885 26 01/02/1856 000380 [TXT] prbt887.txt <http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/la/jefferson/wills/prbt887.txt> Dckt Plaintiff T Cover date JDC LDS # Page JPL DOD Residence Slave(s) FPC film edge 1026 DeGruy, Zuline S 1845-1862 3rd 04025883934887 28 [TXT] prbt895.txt <http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/la/jefferson/wills/prbt895.txt> 3862 St. Amant, Amelia S 1862-1880 2nd 04025963934895 36 000235 Cover marked May 11, 1870. Heirs -vs- Gabriel Moriere Fazende. Francois Fazende administrator for the widow Marie Fazende. John Fazende says Gariel sold the property to him. His late mother, Alix LeBreton Dorgenoy, widow of F. Sebastian M. Fazende. Azelie St. Amant, widow of Pierre Verloin Degruy. Paul Emile Mortimer, Estelle Mortimer widow of Francois Livaudais Enoul, Anatole St. Amant, Emile St. Amant, Theophile St. Amant, Ovide St. Amant, Adolph St. Amant, Armand St. Amant, Leonide St. Amant wife of Camille Degruy, Andre Coste, natural tutor of his children by Odile St. Amant are all of New Orleans. Adolph St. Amant of Jefferson Parish. Heloise St. Amant, widow of Jose Canes of Matanzas, Cuba.

Louisiana, Jefferson Parish, Judicial District Court, Probate dockets. 1825-1845 In the order as viewed on LDS microfilm created from original dockets, Gretna, LA, 1965. Films are available at the Jefferson Parish East Bank Regional Library and Main New Orleans Public Library. 30 DeGruy, Jean Baptiste S 01/05/1839 1st 04025623934861 54 2 02/28/1838 -- yes -- B-000005 Documents in French are in focus, sharp. English ones not so great. Long docket. widow, Melonie Godin or Gaudin minor children, Melanie Augustine 16, Jean Baptiste 13, Julie Elodie 12 relatives; Pierre Verloin DeGruy, Joseph Volent Labarre, Boutte & Troudeau See docket for James Devine at 000126 to 000129 mark at top of film. 50A Foucher, Antoine, Jr., Mrs. S 01/22/1830 1st 04025623934861 76 2 05/00/1830 Annunciation yes -- B-000765 Saulet, Marie Melicente Azelie Petitioner is her daughter, Josephine Anais Foucher "over the age of 12" Josephine's tutor is her father, the widower, Antoine Foucher, Jr. Francois Saulet is Josephine's uncle. At 000784, Marie Antoineni Foucher, widow of Auguste Delachais. 000785, Antoine tutors minors: Felicie, Anais, Azelie, Elize, Pierre Denis and Joseph. The grandfather is Thomas Saulet. Property was sold to Paul Lacour Dubourg. Melicente's siblings: Francois, Azelie, Helorde & Balthazar Saulet Property within triangle of Tchoupitoulas, St. Thomas and Bellechasse (now, Thalia). END of roll B-000862 Renee B-000862

Hi, Renee again. I'm going to try an experiment. I'm going to send a link to a census record through Ancestry... probably only those of you who have Ancestry subscriptions will succeed... although you might be able to write down the link and take it to your library and use it there.... It's for E. B.[?] Degruy.... a cottonbroker in the 1880 federal census..... If it works for you, please respond to the list and let us know... just hit "reply" If it works might try to send you that previous link from Isabelle. Keep in mind that even if you don't have Ancestry or Heritage Quest... you can probably get these through your library.... either by going there physically or by going onto their web site, if they have one, and linking through the library. You'll probably need a library card for this. For example, I log on to my St. Louis library and use my library card number as my password. I then go to our Special Collections page and log on to Heritage Quest like that. I love HQ because the census records are so easy to manipulate and so clear; however, they don't have all of the one Ancestry does, so I use Ancestry for the missing ones only..... just a hint. http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=8054&path=Louisiana.Orleans.New+Orleans+Municipality+3+Ward+2.43&vx=0&vy=1055&vw=556&vh=422&zp=50&mo=1&qf=mc&rc= <http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=8054&path=Louisiana.Orleans.New+Orleans+Municipality+3+Ward+2.43&vx=0&vy=1055&vw=556&vh=422&zp=50&mo=1&qf=mc&rc=>

This is a reinvitation to check out our new web site: degruy.myfamily.com We have over 120 vital records, 3 historical files and 9 photos uploaded so far. We upload daily, so the site is always changing. The reason I haven't been posting to the list is that uploading takes time and I need concentrate on scanning and doing commentaries for the site right now. Instructions follow. If the reason you haven't subscribed yet is because you are having trouble, please let Celine [cmjacsalaska.net] or I [degruylist@earthlink.net] know and we'll try to help you. You can try it out as a guest, using the password given you, or if you "formally" subscribe [no fee], you can pick your own password. After you see what's there, ask yourself... do I have anything in my genealogy file cabinet that would contribute to the site? a photo of an ancestor? a document? a legend? a recipe? a story? It would be great to get some variety here. I've been posting mostly records from the Louisiana Archives... but they never give as much info as the Archdiocesan records... so if you have any of those...that would be a great gift to the list. Thanks Renée Instructions follow: THE DEGRUY FAMILY COLLABORATION WEB SITE AT MYFAMILY.COM Log In Instructions: Link to: http://degruy.myfamily.com At the login prompt, enter: degruyguest At the password line, enter: verloin You can continue as a guest, but, if after browsing the site, you want to "register" formally, click the link to send an e-mail to the Administrator with their name and e-mail address and we can send you your own userid. [A word of caution: although this is a "private" site {we haven't gone "public," although we may make an announcement on LAORLEAN and other mailing lists}, we still caution about privacy issues. For example, in the Address Book, you might want to list your name and state and email address, but you might think twice about putting your actual home address or telephone number on the web. This is up to you, of course, but many of us are concerned with privacy, spamming, identity theft issues and we feel it important to point this out for your consideration. People can always email you and you can respond privately with your more personal information.]