Hi All, Well I just spent a lovely part of my Friday meeting Mari Burke who is traveling through the St. Louis area. I think she may have been a little taken back by the heat. We had a spectacular spring and up until about 4 days ago, fabulous weather. Then the heat just took off. Driving home from the library today my car said it was 102 outside .... but it had been sitting in the sun.... so maybe that was part of it. I told Mari that St. Louis gets the temperature extremes of the top and bottom of the US. It can be as hot in the summer as New Orleans and Florida and it can be as cold in the winter as Minnesota. We get it coming and going! Mari and I worked together in the Genealogy department of the St. Louis County library all morning and then walked down the block for lunch. I think she got a kick out of seeing the binder which contains all our Degruy records. Believe it or not, we have a stack 5 inches high of Degruy records in protective sheet covers. It's enormous. And... all of it is online at your disposal. I have to get ready to make another order for Judy Riffel... but first I have to be sure I'm not listing any duplicates. I also have some will/successions that could be uploaded, but there are so many pages in each that I haven't figured out how to handle it logistically. A couple of days ago I spent some time on the phone with David Perrin. He warned me that there are many mistakes in Gilbert's Degruy pedigree chart. Do any of you have that chart? It's a big chart filled with little rectangular boxes with Degruy names in them. I'm sure Bob Patout has Gilbert's chart and I know David does. My copy was mailed to me by Mary Agnes Degruy [whom no one seems to know]. I told David it should be our project to start at the top and work our way down the chart correcting all the mistakes. I'll try to scan the chart whenever that little job is finished [could be 2008]! But it's so big I know it won't fit into my scanner.... so not sure how to handle that. Mari said that those of us who can should try to meet in New Orleans in late October.... I'd love to do this. I know I'll try to be there around my Mother's 90th birthday on October 16...but a lot depends upon how my husband does when he has his foot surgery at the end of the summer. So that October date is very iffy at this point. What we'd like to do is just pick a time and a place that would accommodate us and just put a message out on Degruy-L saying .... we'll be at ..... [place] and ..... [time]... Try to join us. It would be great if it was somewhere where we could order refreshments individually so we wouldn't have to get into all the red tape involved in menus and price lists. If we each can do our own thing regarding refreshments, that would greatly simplify things. So..... if any of you NO folks know of a venue.... maybe not downtown with all the parking problems.... let us know. Would enjoy hearing your thoughts on this... I finally sent in my papers for Evans line to the DAR... so, after having been distracted by getting all that together, I can now turn my attention back to the Degruys. It would be good to hear from some of you.... how you're spending your summer, etc. Renee in St. Louis

Hi, I'm researching variations of the spelling and use of the surname Aufrere..... Has anyone done any research on this. I've been told that at the time of the French Revolution many surnames were spelled differently to preserve the lives of those who might otherwise have been killed. Anyone know anything about this... or what variations the name might have taken? Thanks Renee

Hi Degruy Researchers..... Celine and I are happy to announce that [between May 29-May 31] we have scanned and uploaded a lot of new records... and there are at least 12 more to come... maybe by tomorrow. Enjoy! Renee From Celine: We are up to 38 new documents posted!! 1. Clementine Verloin DeGruy-DC 2. DeGruy Eugene -DC 3. Degruy, Etienne Bernard-DC 4. Degruy, Joseph Eugene-DC 5. Degruy, Wid. Etienne Bernard-DC 6. Degruy, James Walter-DC 7. Degruy, Florentine-DC 8. Degruy, Alphonse-DC 9. Degruy, Augustus O.-DC 10. Degruy, Marie Doralice-DC 11. Degruy, Widow Fazende-DC 12. Degruy, Francois Elodie-DC 13. Degruy, Pierre Charles-DC 14. Degruy, Antoine Onesime-DC 15. Degruy, Jules Verloin-DC 16. Degruy, Jeanne Verloin Fazende-DC 17. Degruy, Louise Evelina Cauvin-DC 18. Degruy, Virginie Verloin-DC 19. Degruy, Widow Emile Verloin-DC 20. Degruy, Bertha-DC 21. Degruy, Marie Zelina-DC 22. Degruy, Anthime Verloin-DC 23. Degruy, Angela Boisblanc-DC 24. Degruy, Lorinne Verloin-DC 25. Degruy, Felide Charbonnet-DC 26. Degruy, Francois V-DC 27. Degruy, Louise Amanda Sauton-DC 28. Degruy, Gabrielle Davenport-DC 29. Degruy, Adele T. Price-DC 30. DeGruy Lloyd-DC-1909 31. 31.DeGruy GeorgeV-DC-1906 32. 32. DeGruy Adine-DC-1903 33. 33. DeGruy BettieWrigley-DC-1903 34. 34. Degruy Wid.JosepV(HeloiseSaulet)-DC-1849 35. 35. DeGruy FrancoisV-DC-1901 36. 36. DeGruy EtienneBernard-DC-1867 37. 37. Degruy EmileHV-DC-1869 38. 38. DeGruy Anais-DC-1902

Hi Wally, Well you bring up an important issue and one I've thought about myself: the question of our methodology in presenting this data.....what are we able to do and what are our limitations [due to the medium of our web site organization, over which we have no control]. Right now I think we are just arranging the material by last name, first name, kind of record and year of event [I'm talking about BMD records]. I've wondered about that....Should we have an individual attached to everything we know about him or her [BMD... all together] . And what about relationships? Suppose we want to search for someone, but we're not sure of his or her name. We know, however, that he or she is so-and-so's daughter or husband or sister.... etc. How do we find them? How can we indicate relationships? What will our web site allow us to do????? I can tell you... this is a challenge! ;-) But a pleasant one... in that we have such largesse to work with and because we are beginning to recognize the enormous contribution which is being made. On my other web site [my New Orleans Evans family], I have been able to upload pedigree charts.... so others can click on a file and see a pdf of an entire line. This may be possible someday for this web site. But, as we do not want to put up "unproved" material... we can only do this when we have BMD records to support each link of the chain.... so that may be a while in coming. One of my thought is that individual members could start with close at hand records [minus actual names of living members to protect identity].... Each of us probably knows more definitely the folks in our direct lines 1-3 generations back. So if we each took responsibility for getting and contributing that definite data, we would have a foundation for more extensive work and more extensive linking down the road. What will help is if each of us really begins to comprehend two aspects of this work: contribution and collaboration. Thanks for your thoughts. I know I look forward to hearing the thoughts of other researchers on these matters. Renee slideaus wrote: >Let me suggest that we approach the long-term assembly of records for >the Degruy Family web site in a more systematic organized method. > >Wally > > > >

Let me suggest that we approach the long-term assembly of records for the Degruy Family web site in a more systematic organized method. When I started working in genealogy, I realized that I didn't know a lot and bought and read Emily Croom's Unpuzzling Your Past. I subsequently bought and read her volume, The Genealogist's Companion and Sourcebook. (and have the more recent editions now) What interested me is that (this is my interpretation) she advocated using the regular lines of approach - older relatives, family records, public records, etc. However, she acknowledged that she was not always purely systematic in her approach. Where it was possible to use vital statistics, public records, census data, etc., she would do so. However, she allowed for going off on tangents and roaming through related families and data. People doing research on the Daspit and/or St. Amant families, the Fazende, Harang and other families might have information about the Degruy family from the other family's point of view which is not always what we look for. All of us have particular portions of the Degruy family that we are interested in, as well as other ancestors. We want to include all of those portions while working on the overall picture. What records should people focus on systematically while allowing other records to be thrown in as we feel like it? Note to Bonnie Wood: I appreciate how computer catalogs help me find things, but sometimes I miss the ability to browse through paper card catalogs at the library. This seems to me what we want to do - assemble all the data and be able to organize it, while retaining the flexibility to go off on tangents. Just some thoughts.I'm not sure if I am as clear in my presentation as I am in my intent. Wally

Wally makes a very good point about using what we call in library cataloging: AUTHOR NAME AUTHORITY CONTROL. Basically, it is the process of selecting a standard form for someone's name to be used as a MAIN ENTRY for that person with all other variants listed as added entries. An AUTHORITY FILE can be developed and posted which lists the main entry chosen. The authority file can also include supporting documentation for the main entry [my favorite is tombstone inscriptions because I figure that the family would not pay a lot of money to have the family name mispelled for perpetuity]. The authority file can also list all the variants with SEE references pointing to the main entry [de Gruy, Jean Baptiste Antoine Valentin Verloin SEE deGruy, Antoine Valentin Verloin OR degruysverloin, Antoine Valentin SEE deGruy, Antoine Valentin Verloin]. Using an authority file is particularly useful when dealing with old New Orleans families because a person's name was frequently translated into Spanish by priests like Sedella when in fact the individual never personally used the Spanish form. I use a main entry form for personal names in my geneological program with added entries for all variant forms of the name listed within the person's file as aliases. It's also helpful to have the person's birth and death dates as a part of the main entry: deGruy, Antoine Valentin Verloin, 1718-1759. ~Bonnie -----Original Message----- From: DEGRUY-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:DEGRUY-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:00 PM To: DEGRUY-D@rootsweb.com Subject: DEGRUY-D Digest V05 #36

Hi, I've been browsing through our photograph section on our web site.... and it occurs to me that we could have a Lot more photographs of distant Degruys than we do.... We send our appreciation to Raymond, and Eric, and Bridgett, and Neil and others who have made available to us the photographs we do have. So the invitation is.... anyone out there have photographs to contribute??? It would be nice to put some faces to all the BMD records we have. How to get them to us? Well, you can scan and email to Celine who will do the uploading. Generally, only Celine should do actual uploading because only she knows how much space we have used up on our site... and how much we can still hold. If you can't scan, you could take to Kinko's and they could scan and email to Celine. Or you could mail to me and I'd scan and return your original promptly.... Thanks for anything you are willing to share. Renee

Hi, It has occurred to me that there is a potential job opportunity for any Degruy Researcher out there who might want to contribute something to our Degruy Family Collaboration Website endeavor..... Let me describe this job: Every time I go to the NOVA website and do a search on our name in all its many varieties... I come up with different records... Mostly, so far, I have been looking for Degruy or De Gruy.... haven't had time to fool around with Degruise, Degruys.... etc. But, right now, I'm concerned that I may have missed some records... Sooooooooo, if some kind soul wants to pull up Nova Records and compare these against what has been posted on our web site.... to see if we have any "dropped stitches".... you can let me know and the next time I give an order to Judy Riffel, I can ask for these "missed" records. Truthfully, I just don't have time to do this.... Just go to the web site and see what we have and then try to pull up what you can find. Oh... if someone out there decides to take this on... let the group know. No point in duplicating efforts... If there were enough, you could decide among yourselves.... I'll look for birth records in the 1820's... you take them for the 1830's ... and so on.... Just a thought.... Renee

Hi Fellow Degruy Researchers, You haven't heard from me in quite some time. I've been traveling a lot and preoccupied with applying to DAR through my Evans line... getting all the required items together... but basically treading water till Judy Riffel sent me more records. They came yesterday... maybe 50 or 60 of them... so I'll start scanning and sending later today. It will take me 3-6 days to scan them in order to get them to Celine who will take them through the rest of the process to uploading. So it will be awhile, but know that they are on their way. Hope all is well with all of you. Renee

This evening, I uploaded two spreadsheets of selected Degruy Soundex card listings for the 1900 and 1910 censuses. I have made a few notes on some of the listings to relate them to other family members. Some I am currently unable to connect to the family. There are a lot of Degruy family members born in the 1830-1880 period (two generations!) that do not have birth certificates, did not get married when a marriage license was required or somehow flew below the radar (easy to do in the 19th century). Information on these ancestors along with the supporting documentation would be helpful to fill out the family tree. Wally Schneidau

The last name of our ancestor, Antoine Valentine, has come to be spelled several different ways. One of the problems arises from the fact that the way that his surname was spelt different ways during his lifetime, most notably as Degruyverloins and other variants. It is important to remember that correct spelling did not have the significance for someone in the eighteenth century that it does in the twenty-first century. The 18th century saw the first of the popular dictionaries in England in the 1740s (Dr. Johnson's), while popular American dictionaries were not widely circulated until the early 19th century. Even then, you had the cultural transition in South Louisiana of the French/Spanish/French/American political influence. I am not aware of how widely circulated were French dictionaries during this period of time. However, not even dictionaries dealt with the proper spelling of surnames at the time (or even now). Even individual recordkeepers had an influence on the spelling of proper names. Fr. Antonio de Sedella was the pastor of St. Louis Cathedral until the late 1820s. He was appointed during the Spanish period and kept spelling in the Spanish manner and form of names until his death. My research shows that the most general use of the variation DeGruise/De Gruise/Degruise was among descendants of Joseph Dumini Verloin Degruy Jr. (1822-1885) and his two wives, Adeline Dias (?-1868) and Ceralise Autin (?-?). This branch of the Degruy family was primarily located in Lafourche Parish, though some now live in the New Orleans area. The variations De Gruy, DeGruy, de Gruy and Degruy are just individual variations that arose because different people thought that the "de" was a separate item or part of the name. You will see a similar problem in names like De La Barre (Labarre, Delabarre, etc.), De La Vergne and other French and Spanish names that used the "de". Personally, I do not think that there is a "correct" spelling as our ancestors could not decide on one when signing their own names. What can be done is recognize the variations and settle on a common practice when something like the Degruy List and Web Site are involved. An example of the situation is the New Orleans phone book. It currently lists the following surnames: DeGRUISE, De GRUISE, DEGRUISE, DeGRUY, DEGRUY, DE GRUY, de GRUY, deGRUY. It also lists 5 people with the middle initial "V." among the ones who list a middle initial - a high percentage. Just some thoughts. Wally Schneidau

Renee: Several weeks (or it seems like centuries now) you asked me to get a cite from the courthouse in St. Chs for you. We have finished the remodeling now and if you repost that info., I will get it for you. If there is anyone reading this for whom I am supposed to be looking up info and you have not heard from me, please repost here--I have put my genie stuff back together (But just like a broken plate--it never goes back together EXACTLY like it was originally). Carolyn Tregre

Hello Matt: I am the "unofficial" looker-upper in St. Charles Parish. If you have documents you need from our courthouse, I will be glad to copy them. Just post here any names you would like researched or docs. you want copied. Carolyn Tregre

Hi All, Just added Matt Sanders to our Degruy-L list. Here's a note from Matt.... below. Welcome Aboard, Matt! Renee Hotard [Degruy-L List Administrator] -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: New list member Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 21:11:46 EDT From: MadVintner@aol.com To: degruylist@earthlink.net In a message dated 4/12/2005 8:36:35 PM Central Daylight Time, degruylist@earthlink.net writes: > Periodically different Rootsweb "lists" go through a "roll call." This > allows the list owner to check emails and see if any email addresses > have changed. We haven't be around all that long, so a full roll call > isn't necessary. But, again, if you have never placed yourself in the > "big" family tree, now would be a good time to do so. > >From Matt Sanders: I am doing research on my wife's genealogy. I'm a northern boy by upbringing and inclination (I actually like snow - cold is a different story). My wife's father was a ROME from St. Charles Parish. She also has PICOU ancestors, like Bill. In the course of doing her genealogy, I must say I became smitten by both the genealogy bug and by New Orleans area history. It's so different from my own background. But the connection to DEGRUIS/DEGRUY is actually through one of my students. I am an administrator at the UW-Madison Chemistry Department, and about 7-8 years ago, I had a student from Thibodaux who was related to my wife through many lines ("We are all cousins."). He is descended from Antoine DEGRUY and Marie-Therese AUFRERE. More recently, one of my goals has been to map the first century or so of Europeans in New Orleans/Louisiana/Mobile/Arkansas/Illinois. So I'm not strictly a DEGRUY researcher, but rather an early southern French America researcher. Cheers to all, Matt

Wally, I'm thrilled with what you have done. Our Degruy Family Collaboration Web Site is really developing into a true collaboration. Kudos to/for you Renee DEGRUY-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >DEGRUY-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 32 > >Today's Topics: > #1 Uploads on Degruy Family Web Site ["slideaus" <slideaus@bellsouth.net] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from DEGRUY-D, send a message to > > DEGRUY-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >To contact the DEGRUY-D list administrator, send mail to >DEGRUY-admin@rootsweb.com. > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Uploads on Degruy Family Web Site > From: > "slideaus" <slideaus@bellsouth.net> > Date: > Thu, 12 May 2005 19:04:31 -0500 > To: > DEGRUY-L@rootsweb.com > > To: > DEGRUY-L@rootsweb.com > > >For those of you who may not have visited the Degruy Family Web Site in >the past two weeks, I wished to let you know about some files that I >recently uploaded. > >They consist of .pdf files of the "Degruy" page from every available New >Orleans City Directory from 1861 to 1901. The first file that I >uploaded, 1882-1893, is very large (5+ MB), so I cut down the size of >the subsequent files. Celine may do some adjustments to the files at >her convenience. > >Enjoy! > >Wally Schneidau > >

For those of you who may not have visited the Degruy Family Web Site in the past two weeks, I wished to let you know about some files that I recently uploaded. They consist of .pdf files of the "Degruy" page from every available New Orleans City Directory from 1861 to 1901. The first file that I uploaded, 1882-1893, is very large (5+ MB), so I cut down the size of the subsequent files. Celine may do some adjustments to the files at her convenience. Enjoy! Wally Schneidau

For the Degruy list - This is an edited version of an email I sent Renee recently. Recently, I had the time to join the Degruy site and start looking around. Over the past few nights, I have looked at some of the Degruy List archive of messages. I need to reread them before I start making any comments because I haven't looked at all of them to see if some issues were resolved. Responding to one of your early messages, you noted that a family member did genealogy research and had put out a small listing of that family. This was because she only included persons for whom she had clear and convincing documentation/proof. You mentioned that you sort of included everyone if it seemed reasonable to do so. (I realize that I am paraphrasing your words here.) I follow the same general rule, though I do look for some documentation in the long run and I do make corrections (like I did with Pierre Huxelle based on your info). Now about assumptions and coincidences - Starting family research, you make assumptions about your ancestors. They are good, upright people who marry only once, have good places in the community, everything falls into place, etc. Then you start facing the information that you have available - it's not complete. Some relatives are not good and upright - I have had a distant cousin on my mother's side who was executed for rape and murder many years ago. One ancestor was a slave trader (I've seen the listings at the Registrar of Conveyances' office of his sales); his grandson married a Degruy. Relatives (and not very distant ones) have drinking problems. It didn't hit me until I started looking at my GGgrandfather Schneidau's marriage to my GGgrandmother, then looked at the birth of their first child to realize that she was 3 months pregnant when they got married. (I made the assumption that babies born 3 months early would not have survived in the 1830s.) Then I discovered that they were married at First Congregational Church. My GGgrandfather had a Lutheran background - he was an immigrant from Sweden (sea captain, so he ended up in a port city). My GGgrandmother was English and I am going to assume that she was low-church Anglican (I really don't know). However, Colin Hamer, the head of the Louisiana section of NOPL, told me that people used First Congregational Church for quick weddings - they didn't require having the banns read or incisive questions about the circumstances. This leads to another assumption - my GGGgrandfather Pierre Verloin Degruy married my GGGgrandmother Francoise Azelie Daspit St. Amant, and had kids including my ancestress, Francoise Elodie Degruy Salomon, period. It wasn't until I was looking at some of the Degruy succession records that I realized that Francoise Azelie was Pierre Verloin's second wife. There is a court record from the early 1820s (I have a photocopy of the main part somewhere) in which Etienne Degruy and Jeanne Julme Degruy, children of Pierre Verloin Degruy and Jeanne Dumenil Glapion, brought suit over their mother's dowry interest. Etienne was born about 1801 and died 10/19/1855; and Jeanne Julme was born 2/18/1804 - date of death unknown. This brought out the fact there was a prior marriage and children. The court documents are primarily in French, but I could piece out names and dates. By the way, you are correct in that Jeanne Dumenil Glapion died at age 20. The thing is that so many of those young New Orleans French women got married at age 14, 15 or 16, it was normal to have a couple of children by the time you were 20. Anyway, the next assumption was that someone like Pierre Huxelle got married and was married for over 20 years that I did not think about a second marriage. Then you gave me the information about your ancestress, Mary Cecelia Cunningham. I can now go back and see that the information is there; I just didn't think to put it together. Now the coincidences - Then I saw the information that had been loaded about Antoine Paul Brandon's birth and death and his marriage to Mary Cecelia Cunningham and I realized that I had seen that name before in a different setting. Jeanne Julme Degruy, the daughter from Pierre Verloin Degruy's first marriage, married Moses Duffy on 10/10/1818 at St. Louis Cathedral and had several children with him. Please look up the Duffy listings in the Archdiocesan sacramental records books. Then I could not find any more information about Jeanne Julme or Moses Duffy after the birth of a child in 1824. About two months ago, I stopped in at the Jefferson Library main branch to see if they had the most recent volume of the Archdiocesan Sacramental Records (for some reason it takes the libraries in New Orleans three months to get those volumes on the shelves after they are published). It was not there, so I browsed around to see if there was anything interesting. Then I looked in the microfilm section to see what they had. I found the listings for probation records starting in the 1820s and going on through the 1850s that someone has been indexing on the Jefferson Parish archives website and noted the probate listings that had a Degruy or Degruy-related last name. I started looking at them quickly and after a few cases, the probate case on Moses Duffy came up. It started in the late 1830s and went on for several years. The oldest son of Moses Duffy and Jeanne Julme Degruy had brought suit over ownership of some land in McDonoughville. The suit lists that Moses Duffy had died around 1828. Then, Jeanne Julme Degruy had remarried a Robert Brandon sometime after 1828 and they had a son, Paul Antoine Brandon, who was born about 1835. Robert Brandon then died sometime after 1836. Jeanne Julme Degruy Duffy Brandon then married an I. MacKenzie and moved to St. Louis. At one point I got the implication that someone was arguing that she had abandoned everything to move to St. Louis. Anyway, last night everything fell into place. Mary Cecelia Cunningham first married Antoine Paul Brandon, son of Robert Brandon and Jeanne Julme Degruy, and grandson of Pierre Verloin Degruy by his first wife. When widowed, she marries Pierre Huxelle Degruy, son of Pierre Verloin Degruy by his second wife. Or to put it another way, she married her mother-in-law's half-brother! How's that for a coincidence - which it probably wasn't? Anyway, that is how things look now based on all the information from several different places. Hope this tickles your funny bone as it did mine. Of course, cousin marriages and other marriages involving consanguinity were not unusual at that time due to the much smaller community. Wally Schneidau

The following are from the NOVA web site. Anyone recognize these folks? Are they DeGruys? Should they be added to our web site? Renée ************************************************* ST. PATRICK CEMETERIES #1, #2 and #3 Records; New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana Submitted by: James R. Hills, Jr., (February 2002) Submitted to the LAGenWeb Archives 1374 --Cem:P1, --Section: 10, --Alley: RHS 48' from main aisle Monument Name: DUGRUY Type: DOUBLE COPING Associated Names: Dugruy, Joseph; Dugruy, Clarence Interments: Burialdate Name[Sex/Age]; Comments 03/27/1950 Dugruy, Francis R.[M/20] 02/10/1975 Dugruy, Anna B.[F/85] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1969 Interment of St Roch Cemeteries 1 & 2 Submitted by Andrew Brunner & Penny Delery December 2004 Source: Interment Books from St Roch Cemetery Submitted to the LAGenWeb Archives Jan 17 Dugruy Louis Sr M/W 80 2-A R-4 T-9 St Anthony Walk +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Orleans Parish Death Index - D Death Index Reel 1 Submitted by: Orleans Parish Death Index Project Volunteers Dugruy Mary 8 mos - - 6/26/1874 61 322 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1822 New Orleans City Directory Orleans Parish, LA Submitted by: Colleen Fitzpatrick Dugruy Dufouchar accountant 40 Dauphin +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The Times Picayune 1950 Obituary Index Orleans Parish Louisiana Source The Times Picayune News Paper Year Completed February 2005 March 26 1950 Francis Raoul Dugruy +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Just got my "Le Raconteur." In it, on page 24, it says: "On-Line Ordering of Some Louisiana Vital Records Now Available." Louisiana's Department of Health and Hospitals has contracted with an online service that allows state residents to order copies of birth and death certificates over the Internet. The service is being offered through a contract with VitalChek. For more information on how to order, visit the Office of Public Health's website at: http://www.oph.dhh.state.la.us/recordsstatistics/vitalrecords/ Genealogists and those seeking historical records should note that this service does not include birth records more than 100 years old and death records more than 50 years old. These records have been transferred to the State Archives and are available only through them. While the most complete indexes to these records are found in the Archives' Research Room, partial indexes may be found at Ancestry.com and the USGenWeb's Orleans Parish Archives page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/la/orleans.htm <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Eusgenweb/la/orleans.htm> Renée

Hi, I'm back in St. Louis... but have been too busy catching up to do any research. This, however, was received on my Evans-L list and I thought you might want to know about it. It's: "Matthew's American Armoury and Blue Book," by John Matthews, printed by the Gorham Co., New York & London, 1907. Renée http://home.insightbb.com/~geneo.sales/armoury.html <http://home.insightbb.com/%7Egeneo.sales/armoury.html>