+IN THE 4TH QUADRANT OF LIFE+ >applied genealogy allows one insights to gauguin's question +WHO ARE WE+ +WHERE FROM, WHERE GO+ to that may i add... >WHY DID WE DO >WHAT WE DID<. ( we are but agents of blood ) **************************** "+THE SILVER SHIP+" >was the three story residence / studio that i constructed for my family in... ************************************ +LAJOLLA, CALIFORNIA+ >and can be seen in my archive in the SPECIAL COLLECTIONS OF THE (exhibitions,1990s) >LOUISINA STATE UNIVESITY LIBRARY IN BATON ROUGE. *************************** +CHRISTMAS IN THE SILVER SHIP+ ( 1980 - 2004 ) >was always special with our 3 children and current dog, ("bafut" was the last) +GATHERING ON THE 1ST FLOOR+ >with christmas tree , colored lights, music, good food, (lamothe wine) >AND FAMILY CHEER<. ********************* +MARIAN OLSEN RAY+ (1936-2003) >my beloved 1st wife of 48 years was a very devoted wife and mother ********************************** +WHO WORKED HARD TO PROVIDE A WARM FAMILY ENVIRONMENT. ********************************** >derek , bronwen and lesley our three children were all busy W/ THEIR VARIED AGENDA **************************** ( derek leaves for india monday >on a spiritual pilgrimage ) ************************* +EACH CONTRIBUTED TO A+ +WARM FAMILY SYNERGISED+ (bafut a vital part) +CHRISTMAS MIES-EN-SCENE+. ****************************** +IT WAS A SPECIAL LOCUS+ >lajolla is a transcendent place and +MOUNT SOLEDAD WAS BOYANT+ (a powerful feng shui) +PACIFIC OCEAN PERSPECTIVE+ >( we could see the large white home of ted geisel (dr. seuss) across the canyon and on the mountain top.) ********************************** +IN THE 2nd FLOOR STUDIO+ (glass walls,great views) >yours truly was busy with a current design project, or making collage & correspondence art graphics ******************************** >A LARGE LIBRARY SUPPORTING MUCH RESEARCH OF ALL TYPES (i have written of the radiant >energy & architecture work.) ***************************** +ROUND BUILDINGS A FUEL OF GENETIC MEMORY. ********************** +A PASSION FOR FRANCE+ >(new orleans roots and degruy french documenta important >LEADING TO EXHIBITIONS & LECTURES IN EUROPE *********************** +BLOOD TEMPERS VISION+ >with my lectures in england and scotland i provided supporting (BIOTRONIC ENERGY) >documenta. (the french were already FAMILIAR ardents) ************************ +HOME OF THE HEART+ +returning to paris was the great >reward of that silver ship work. ******************************** +s y n c h r o n i ci t y+ >IT WAS THE FRENCH WHO GAVE (early and dynamic) >APPRECIATION TO MY WORK (paris biennale 1985) >W/ RADIANT ARCH. CONCEPTS and of all the regions of france it was in LORRAINE at the +UNIV. OF NANCY+ (1986) >where i was invited to have +my work published.+ ******************** +CONES SUPERIOR VOLUMES+ (second only to spheres) >i once purchased in paris a conical clear storage device for an egg >THE FRENCH HAVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED ALCHEMY +AND MAGNETICS+ ****************** >perhaps this explains the passion and talent one finds in france for ********************************** >SYNERGISING ARTISTRY AND +SCIENTIFIC VISION+ ******************* >after all it was their great jesuit priest +TIELHARD de CHARDIN+ >who said that at the highest level (of reality) +ONLY THE FANTASTIC IS POSSIBLE+ (is this not important @ christmas) ? ************************************ eugene ray, san diego, california

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+CHRISTMAS 1738+ found our mutual ancestor >ANTOINE JEAN BAPTISTE VALENTIN VERLOIN deGRUY in a french troop ship enroute from >FRANCE TO NEW ORLEANS< **************************** >this was not a fun experience on the ICEBERG RIDDEN, STORM TOSSED >freezing atlantic ocean< *********************** >the troop ship left france in dec. 1738 and arrived in new orleans (via st. domingue) +IN MARCH OF 1739+ >antoine was all of 20 years old< ******************************** +SIEUR d'AYME de NOAILLES+ >was the commandent of antoine's regiment which was enroute to +BATTLE THE CHICKASAWS+ *************************** >bienville's failed military strategy caused the french to send this new unit and ultimatly to >WITHDRAW BIENVILLE +BACK TO FRANCE+ ****************** >de NOAILLES WAS A FAVORED FRENCH ARISTOCRAT WHOSE >louisiana grandaughter was ***************************** +MARIE LOUISE le SENECHAL de AUBERVILLE wife of +FRANCOIS BOULIGNY+ ********************** +who on march 8, 1792+ >SOLD THE "BARATARIA PLANTATION" (across river from napol. ave.) +PRICE: 100,000 PESOS+ >to jean baptiste valentin de gruy WHERE HE BUILT THE ROUND SUGAR MILL THAT MADE HIM ( c.c. robin account, paris ) >FAMOUS & HIS DESCENDENTS VERY WEALTHY 50 YEARS (top sugar prizes) +L A T E R+ ************ +CHRISTMAS 1792+ >WAS THE 1ST OF MANY CHRISTMAS CELEBRATIONS OF OUR deGRUY (grace & wealth by 1830) >ANCESTORS ON THIS FAMOUS +"BARATARIA"+ +S U G A R P L A N T A T I O N+ ******************************* >note: for a more complete account of this, read my message of july 2nd of this year, ( degruy/boudousquie ) (google: rootsweb) +deGRUY L ARCHIVES+ >JULY, 2008< *********** +S Y N C H R O N I C I T Y+ >the mother of marie louise le senechal de aubeville, back in france was the the famous writer >MARIE de LEVILLIERS de COLLANGE ************************************* >cousin/friend of the even more famous +FRENCH LITERARY STAR DIARIST+ *************************** +MADAME SEVIGNE+ (whose mother was a collange) ******************************* +CHATEAU GRIGNON+ >note: to understand why france is so great, visit the chateau near orange +BEAUTY VIA ARTISTRY+ >in provence of madame sevigne's >daughter and son in law< +A M A Z I N G+ ****************** >FOR A FABULOUS CHRISTMAS GIFT GIVE / READ, MADAME SEVIGNE'S ( great on "air france" ) >DIARY WRITTEN @ GRIGNON AND her magnificent paris townhouse now the museum of paris +THE CARNAVALET MUSEUM+. >a fabulous experience< *********************** (more synchronicity) >FOR A TOUCHING CHRISTMAS NOTE OUR DEAR FRIEND ROBIN BEEMAN who lost husband elmer this year ********************************** >IS A DIRECT DESCENDENT OF (king's [email protected] n.o.) +ANTOINE BOUDOUSQUIE+ ************************** >who sold part of the plantation +TO THE deGRUY BROTHERS+ **************************** >(descendent charles boudousquie was director and builder of the +N.O. FRENCH OPERA HOUSE+ ****************************** >AMAZINGLY, THE ANCESTOR OF OUR (cousin via arthur garic) >OLD FRIEND GARIC BARRANGER ********************************* +JEAN BAPTISTE GARIC+ >was the king's notary for this so important degruy/boudousquie ********************************* +PLANTATION TRANSACTION+ (affecting our lives forever) *************************** eugene ray, san diego, california

got it helen schneidau -------------- Original message from listadministratordegruyl <[email protected]>: -------------- > Apologies for the bother. > This is just a test to see if my message can get through. > R > The productivity of our Degruy list depends upon generosity in sharing family research. This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to > be "fact." All data should be verified. > -------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

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Got it . . . Shelley ----- Original Message ----- From: "listadministratordegruyl" <[email protected]> To: "GEN Degruy Mailing list at Rootsweb" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:37 PM Subject: [DEGRUY] test > Apologies for the bother. > This is just a test to see if my message can get through. > R > > The productivity of our Degruy list depends upon generosity in sharing > family research. This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot > be assumed to be "fact." All data should be verified. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for letting me know my "test" message got through. Either yesterday or the day before I tried to send an email with a lot of data in it and it kept bouncing back. I asked Celine to send it for me because I just couldn't make it go through. Then I sent an email to Rootsweb and asked them what was going on. I got a really scary message saying the IP address had been put on a "black list" and I'd better contact Earthlink. "Black List" -- Yipes! I waited for the doorbell to ring and a couple of "G" men to be there to take me away. Additionally, the thought of trying to get through to India to get help from Earthlink just seemed too daunting for me to deal with in the middle of getting ready for Christmas! So..... I put it off :-[ Then I decided to send a test email...and you got it. So what does it all mean? I don't have a clue. Let's see if this one reaches you. Maybe the whole thing will resolve itself on its own. Typical internet mystery. Resolve on its own - now that would be a Christmas gift! Renee

Received you test emial...best Anna Ross> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:37:30 -0600> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: [DEGRUY] test> > Apologies for the bother.> This is just a test to see if my message can get through.> R> > The productivity of our Degruy list depends upon generosity in sharing family research. This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact." All data should be verified. > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywhere_122008

+BREAKING NEWS+ >important points regarding degruy templar history in france & swiss. as found in the book.... ********************** "THE WARRIORS AND THE BANKERS" by alain butler & stephen dafoe ********************************* 1) TROYES, FRANCE WAS FOUNDED ON TEMPLAR ORIENTATION/ ACTIVITY ************************************ >this would explain further the degruy selection and attachement to that *********************************** +TROYES CHAMPAGNE REGION+ (chateau @ magny-fouchard) ***************************** ( i have written about st. bernard of clairvaux and the +COUNT OF CHAMPAGNE+ >that must have been at the heart (powerful alliance) +TROYES FOUNDATION+ *********************** 2) SWITZERLAND WAS FOUNDED ON TEMPLAR ORIENTATION /ACTIVITY. (there are exellent reasons) *************************** A) swiss formation dated same time as templar demise in france ca. 1307. B) a shared banking orientation.... (the templars were very wealthy, the fuel for the king's hatred. C) easy movement from france into the cantons of switzerland by templars fleeing the kings persecution. D) swiss flag similar to templar blazon. E) a shared sense of group secretivness F) a shared sense of religious tolerance. >THIS FORMATION WOULD OF COURSE EFFECT THE deGRUY(ERE) HISTORY BOTH IN SWITZERLAND AND IN CHAMPAGNE, FRANCE. (perhaps even in louisiana) ************************** >note: i remember well how chretien point plantation was saved during the civil war because the owner made the "masons" sign to the invading union general. ************************ +( FREEMASONS AND KNIGHTS OF MALTA TEMPLAR DESCENDED.) ******************************* >saint bernard of clairvaux, near to ("FATHER" OF TEMPLARS) >magny fouchard, had a huge ***************************** >INFLUENCE ON THE DESIGN OF CHARTRES CATHEDRAL ************************** >deGRUY TEMPLAR OVERVIEW< >a 5 holy crusade history placed the +VALENTIN VERLOIN deGRUY+ >in the thick of the knights templar +SWISS / FRENCH REGIONS+ **************************** >THE TEMPLARS IN THE CHAMPAGNE REGION WERE THE LEAST EFFECTED BY KING PHILIPPE'S PERSECUTION. ************************************ eugene ray, san diego, california

I got it. Wally -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of listadministratordegruyl Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:38 PM To: GEN Degruy Mailing list at Rootsweb Subject: [DEGRUY] test Apologies for the bother. This is just a test to see if my message can get through. R The productivity of our Degruy list depends upon generosity in sharing family research. This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact." All data should be verified. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

GOT YOUR EMAIL TEST JUDY SMILESON PS I THINK ITS JUST QUIET BECAUSE OF XMAS, ALOT OF THE WEBLIST ARE NOT REPORTING ANYTHING EITHER. ITS REALLY HARD ON US GENEALOGIE JUNKIES ************** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&amp; icid=aolcom40vanity&amp;ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025)

Apologies for the bother. This is just a test to see if my message can get through. R

Just posted under the "File Cabine" category on our Myfamily site a page with cemetery listings in L2. Here's the accompanying note. This comes from a fax listing Degruy Family tombs. The cemetery is identified as: L2 Location: Square 2; Section G Facing Main Isle. David Perrin can probably tell you a lot about this.

+S Y N C H R O N I C I T Y+ >saint hippolyte street in baton rouge was a favorite of mine at christmas (A SMALL BOY IS LIKE A SPONGE) (it was in the oldest section >& REEKED OF EUROPE< ********************** +ROUGEMONT MONESTARY+ >i have just discovered that the count of gruyere founded a rougemont village ( 1569 to 1572 ) >and monestary near chateau d'oex in switzerland, not far from the ******************************** +CASTLE OF GRUYERE+ +++++++++++++ >like the village of villeneuve's near chillon connecting to our villeneuve (1ST. MAGNY FOUCH. FMLY.) >the connection between rougemont switzerland and the french templar +ROUGEMONT FAMILY+ >family la roche, villersexel is only +SOMETHING CONJECTURAL+ >but worth investigating< ************************ >BECAUSE THE COUNT de ROUGEMONT (rougemont = villersexel la roche, marguerite decharney's husband) >IN BURGUNDY, SOUTH OF MAGNY FOUCHARD, IN THE CHURCH OF ******************************** +SAINT HIPPOLYTE+ +++++++++++ >displayed the shroud of lirey/turin for 34 years before it went to ****************************** +THE CHURCH OF ST. JEAN+ +THE BAPTISTE IN TURIN+. ************************ >ANTOINE JEAN BAPTISTE VALENTIN VERLOIN-deGRUY >must have been pleased that the >JEAN BAPTISTE< CHURCH was near the >VALENTINE< PALACE OF THE +DUKES OF SAVOY+ ****************** >where his ancestors had been invested with the order of the ******************************* +ANNUNCIATA+ **************** (it was much missed) >BACK AT ST. HIPPOLYTE CHAPEL IN BURGUNDY AT CHRISTMAS >the templar families had a *************************** >HUGE MURAL PAINTED OF THE +SACRED SHROUD+ +++++++++++ >FOUND CURRENTLY ON THE WORLD WIDE WEB >in brillient, vivid color ********************** >the remnants of this fresco +MAY STILL BE THERE+ ********************* >AS IMPORTANT TO OUR HISTORY AS LEONARDO'S "LAST SUPPER". ******************************** eugene (degruy cavaroc staigg) ray san diego, california, planet >E A R T H< ************

+MERRY CHRISMAS MISS KITTY+ blessings for your wonderful greeting and message *********************** +THIS IS MY 2ND RESPONSE+ ! >thanks miss kitty, i typed a long reply to you but my msn system >LOST IT BEFORE IT WAS SENT<. ******************************* +as a small recompense.... >please , for you and anna ross.... ******************************** >+GOOGLE THE FOLLOWING.+.... **************************** >"PEDIGREE PIERRE de GRUYERE<" (type this in on google search) ****************************** >this is my christmas present for +YOU AND ALL GRUYERENS+ *************************** +TELL ANNA WE ARE DELIGHTED TO HAVE HER CARRY ON RESEARCH ********************************** >THE LIREY/TURIN SHROUD TEMPLAR MYSTERY at the top of the +L I S T+ ********* >perhaps she will untangle the web OF TEMPLAR FAMILIES AROUND THE deGRUY CHATEAU AT +MAGNY FOUCHARD+ ********************* +THIS IS A TRULY PROFOUND+ +ONGOING INVESTIGATION+ *************************** >i have written about the noailles +A FAVORITE FAMILY OF MINE+ ******************************* >(a fabulous history)< >HAVE HER TELL US ALL SHE KNOWS ABOUT THIS ! ********************* ALL BEST gene ********* eugene ray, san diego, california

Forwarding to the deGruy Rootsweb list on Renee's behalf. _____ From: listadministratordegruyl [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:24 AM To: GEN Degruy Mailing list at Rootsweb Subject: Have we gotten all these from NOPL? >From Louisiana. Second District Court (Orleans Parish) General Index of All Successions, 1846 - 1880 Plaintiff ...............................Defendant................Docket Number.................Notes De Gruy, Dufouchard..........................................13893 widow of De Gruy, Azelie, widow E. B...............................32479 De Gruy, Cecile, wife or Suzeneau...................32399 De Gruy, Eleanor B. .........................................32479 and 29839 De Gruy, Eugene...................................................32475 De Gruy, Felide, widow P. C. Bienvenu....................................................40964 De Gruy, Francois Verloin....................................35714 De Gruy, J. B., Widow............................................6089 De Gruy, Jean Baptiste..........................................36814 De Gruy, Pierre H., wife of......................................30105 De la Croix, Dussuau F. ........................................11517

Hi Kitty, I've added Anna to both mailing list and web site. Tell her to let me know if she has trouble accessing either. I'm not sure what is going on with my email, but I haven't gotten the last 3 messages posted to the list. I only stumbled on your message while searching for something else. Gotta figure out what's going on here. Thanks Renée

+BREAKING NEWS+ >note: turin shroud documentary on the discovery channel reveals the SCIENTISTS ARE AS BAFFLED BY THE SHROUD OF TURIN as everyone else is !!! ********************** >IT IS NOT A PAINTING ETC<,, >the scientists do not know how the image got on the linen cloth> ***************************** +ONE SCIENTIST SAID IT WAS MADE+ +BY A BURST OF RADIANT ENERGY +++++++++++++++++++++ >scientific evidence indicates the (ORIGINALLY 13th CENT.) >dating of the shroud was wrong. ********************************* >newer addition fabric thread +(SKEWED THE CARBON 14)+ *************************** >IT MAY VERY WELL DATE FROM THE CRUCIFICTION OF CHRIST ******************************* +CURRENT DISCOVERIES+ lirey/templar/turin ******************* 1) JEAN deVIRGY WIFE OF GEOFFREY de CHARNEY II, SHROUD OWNER, WAS (de gruyere ancestor) +GREAT (4) GRANDAUGHTER OF >OTHON de la ROCHE< >othon de la roche , duke of athens married to gertrude de ray, sent the shroud to pons de la roche DURING THE 4th CRUSADE +I N 1 4 O 4+ ************ >(gruyere count & knights were part of the french force ) ************************ 2) MARGUERITE deCHARNEY WIFE OF +HUMBERT de VILLERSEXEL AND (rougemount, la roche fam.) >granddaughter of geof. decharney INHERITED THE LIREY SHROUD (montfort castle chapel) >and traded it to savoy duke louis 1 of chambery for two castles. **************************** +SAVOY DUKE LOUS 1st WAS A DESCENDENT OF ST. LOUIS +KING OF FRANCE+ >marguerite decharney devillersexel WAS COUSIN OF THE WIFE OF +SAVOY DUKE LOUIS 1st+. ************************ +deGRUY(ERE) FAMILY+ +this history provides family ties to >THE HOUSE OF GRUY(ERE)< at several key points ********************* A) deVIRGY deCHARNEY B) SAVOY DUKE LOUIS 1st C) 4th CRUSADE D) KNIGHTS TEMPLAR E) LOCATION ( all of this occured within close distance of magny fouchard ) ***************************** >AND ON THE MAIN ROUTE TO PARIS FROM CHAMBERY & LATER FROM TURIN ******************** >for 34 years before the savoy dukes took over the shroud it was shown ************************************ >IN ST. HIPPOLYTE CHURCH OF THE COUNTS de VILLERSEXEL NEAR THEIR MOUNTFORT CASTLE ***************************** >this is the land of the dukes of >B U R G U N D Y< ********************* >THE HOUSE OF de VIRGY HAS A ( gruyere counts relatives) >LONG REGAL HISTORY HERE<. ***************************** +THALEMY CASTLE+ >in this region, where the last count MICHAEL deGRUYERE DIED IN +MARCH OF 1576+ +++++++++++ gene ray, san diego, california

Mr. Eugene, I have an old girlhood friend, who just moved back to New Iberia from New Orleans via Atlanta, Ga, and she is a direct descendant of Antoine Jean Baptiste Verloin Degruy, she told me that it was always said in the New Iberia Boutte/Degruy family that the Degruy family was related to Madame de Noailles, who was a very important persona at Versallies during the reign of King Louis 14th, her name is Anna Ross Mauldin Duval Twitchell and she attended Tulane University and earned her mater's degree in history from there. Her email is [email protected], you might enjoy sharing information with her as she is very interested in the family and has done extensive historical research. Wishing you and Miss Mary Anne a very Merry Christmas filled with much happiness and joy. Merry Christmas, kitty courts> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:06:02 +0000> Subject: [DEGRUY] SCIENTISTS BAFFLED/ carbon 14 dating was skewed by new fabric deGRUY/SAVOY SHROUD POINT OF CURRENT DISCOVERY, 12/08> > > +BREAKING NEWS+> >note: turin shroud documentary on> the discovery channel reveals the> SCIENTISTS ARE AS BAFFLED> BY THE SHROUD OF TURIN> as everyone else is !!!> **********************> >IT IS NOT A PAINTING ETC<,, > >the scientists do not know how the > image got on the linen cloth>> *****************************> +ONE SCIENTIST SAID IT WAS MADE+> +BY A BURST OF RADIANT ENERGY> +++++++++++++++++++++ > >scientific evidence indicates the> (ORIGINALLY 13th CENT.)> >dating of the shroud was wrong.> *********************************> >newer addition fabric thread> +(SKEWED THE CARBON 14)+> ***************************> > >IT MAY VERY WELL DATE FROM> THE CRUCIFICTION OF CHRIST> *******************************> > +CURRENT DISCOVERIES+> lirey/templar/turin> *******************> 1) JEAN deVIRGY WIFE OF GEOFFREY de> CHARNEY II, SHROUD OWNER, WAS> (de gruyere ancestor)> +GREAT (4) GRANDAUGHTER OF> >OTHON de la ROCHE<> >othon de la roche , duke of athens> married to gertrude de ray, sent> the shroud to pons de la roche> DURING THE 4th CRUSADE> +I N 1 4 O 4+> ************> >(gruyere count & knights were> part of the french force )> ************************> > 2) MARGUERITE deCHARNEY WIFE OF > +HUMBERT de VILLERSEXEL AND> (rougemount, la roche fam.)> >granddaughter of geof. decharney> INHERITED THE LIREY SHROUD> (montfort castle chapel) > >and traded it to savoy duke louis 1> of chambery for two castles.> ****************************> > +SAVOY DUKE LOUS 1st WAS A > DESCENDENT OF ST. LOUIS> +KING OF FRANCE+> >marguerite decharney devillersexel> WAS COUSIN OF THE WIFE OF> +SAVOY DUKE LOUIS 1st+.> ************************> > +deGRUY(ERE) FAMILY+> +this history provides family ties to> >THE HOUSE OF GRUY(ERE)<> at several key points> *********************> A) deVIRGY deCHARNEY> B) SAVOY DUKE LOUIS 1st> C) 4th CRUSADE> D) KNIGHTS TEMPLAR > E) LOCATION> > ( all of this occured within close> distance of magny fouchard )> *****************************> >AND ON THE MAIN ROUTE TO> PARIS FROM CHAMBERY &> LATER FROM TURIN> ********************> > >for 34 years before the savoy dukes> took over the shroud it was shown> ************************************> >IN ST. HIPPOLYTE CHURCH OF THE> COUNTS de VILLERSEXEL NEAR> THEIR MOUNTFORT CASTLE > *****************************> > >this is the land of the dukes of> >B U R G U N D Y<> *********************> >THE HOUSE OF de VIRGY HAS A> ( gruyere counts relatives)> >LONG REGAL HISTORY HERE<.> *****************************> +THALEMY CASTLE+> >in this region, where the last count> MICHAEL deGRUYERE DIED IN> +MARCH OF 1576+> +++++++++++> > gene ray, san diego, california > > The productivity of our Degruy list depends upon generosity in sharing family research. This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact." All data should be verified. > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Suspicious message? There’s an alert for that. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad2_122008

Rene, I want to wish you and everyone a very Merry Christmas and may your Christmas be filled with many blessings and much happiness and joy,. I want to tell you that a direct descendant of Antoine Jean Baptiste Verloin Degruy has moved back to New Iberia from New Orleans, and she grew up here in New Iberia and we were girlhood friends, her name is Anna Ross Maulin Duval Twichell, and her email address is [email protected], and I sent her email address to you awhile back sometime in November and she said that she has never received an email from you concerning the Degruy website, she is a history and genealogy lover and is very interested in learning more about the Verloin Degruy line. Anna Ross descends to the Degruy line through Marie Threse Degruy, who was the wife of Francois Cezar Boutte, Senior and the daughter of Antoine Jean Baptiste Verloin Degruy. In talking about genealogy and history, Anna Ross shared with me this piece of information that I think will be of great interest to the Degruy website, she told me that it was always said in her family that the Degruy were related to or descended to Madame de Noailles, who was very closely tied to Versallies Palace and King Louis 14th of France. I looked up in an old encylopedia and found that the de Noailles family of France were a noble family drawing their lordship from titles near BEauvis, with Antoine the noted admiral of 16th Century and his brothers, Francois and Gilles, ambassadors, the de Noailles family attained promience as great generals of the 17th and 18th centuries. Anna Ross has a master's degree in history and she has done extensive research on Louisiana history and is very interested in becoming a member of the Degruy family website, Thank you very much for your kind consideration, Merry Christmas, kitty courts> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:35:22 -0600> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [DEGRUY] message from David> > This sounds like the perfect place.> Someone, however, has already responded, so it may be gone.> But David's number is 504 828 6245> I'd call him as soon as you can and maybe you can head off the others at > the pass, so to speak.> Just tell him how you connect. He'll enjoy the contact. He will > Especially Enjoy hearing about Hermitage Plantation. [You ought to let > the list know as well about this wonderful project, unless you're > keeping it under wraps. David has no computer or email, so as much as > he has to offer, he's really out of the loop.> Happy Holidays....> > > > > Robert Judice wrote:> > Saw your note re: the DeGruy mantle and am interested. We are in the process> > of restoring Hermitage Plantation (ca. 1812-14) in Ascension Parish and> > would be used there. Please send more information. My connection to the> > DeGruy family is as follows: Marie Louise Hyacinthe DeGruy married Antoine> > Boutte and 3 of their daughters married 3 Judice brothers in the St.> > Martinville area in the late 18th century. Thank you.> >> > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 3:45 PM, listadministratordegruyl <> > [email protected]> wrote:> >> > > >> David says that he has a [not too large] carved wooden mantel from a> >> Degruy house in the French Quarter on Dumaine. He has been storing it at> >> a church since Katrina, but they have told him that he has to take it> >> away before Dec 22 or 23 or they will throw it out. He doesn't have a> >> place to put it. He'd like a Degruy to get it. I know he'd like some> >> sort of monetary compensation for it, but, if he can't get that, he will> >> give it to a Degruy rather than have it put into the trash.> >>> >> So... if any one out there would like a piece of Degruy history, give> >> David a call. If you don't have his number contact me off list and I'll> >> give it to you. I'd get it myself, but getting it to St. Louis would be> >> a bit cost prohibitive!> >>> >> Please share this message with anyone who may not be on our Degruy list.> >> I know there are researchers out there who do not have computers.> >>> >> That's the message.> >>> >> Renée> >> The productivity of our Degruy list depends upon generosity in sharing> >> family research. This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be> >> assumed to be "fact." 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