>I SHALL REPORT ANY RESPONSE TO THIS APPEAL. >the hotel is only 5 km from +MAGNY FOUCHARD+ gene ray -----Original Message----- From: Eugene Ray Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 3:30 AM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: SEEKING VERLOIN deGRUY INFORMATION / availability of accomodation on september 19 & 20, 2009 in your hotel in DOLANCOURT, FRANCE +LE MOULIN DE LANDION+ >dolancourt, france +DEAR FRIENDS, >i write for 2 reasons..... 1) i am seeking information about the extended family of my ancestors +VALENTIN-VERLOIN-deGRUY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >who lived near you in the chateau +MAGNY FOUCHARD+ (and also at versailles >with the king's regiment) >in the 17th & 18th centuries and >who were intermarried with the french families +BOSSANCOURT & LE PERRY+ from your region. >if you do not have historical data about the above families please put me in touch with your local +HISTORIAN OR LIBRARY+ >i represent many descendents of the verloin-degruy family who live largely in the state of louisiana. 2) my wife and i are planning to visit your area on september 19 & 20. +TO PHOTOGRAPH FAMILY SITES IN THE VILLAGES NEARBY AND GATHER FAMILY INFORMATION >please inform us regarding accomodation at your hotel. >WE THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR HELP IN THESE TWO RELATED ISSUES. eugene (verloin degruy) ray m.f.a., architect and professor emeritus [email protected] san diego, california, usa

+CURRENT PLANS, VIEWS+ +AND STRATEGIES+. >in the autumn of this year we plan a PILGRIMAGE TO MAGNY FOUCHARD that will take us also to the +VERGY / LIREY+ +SHROUD CHAPEL+ >south of troyes and the degruy +EXTENDED FAMILY SITES+ such as the castles at +VENDEUVRE & BRIENNE+ >(the king of luxemburg, descended +(MONTMORENCY)+ >from william the conqueror at vendeuvre & the crusader king of jerusalem at brienne >THE BOSSANCOURT CHATEAU & CHAPEL ARE STILL THERE IF MY DATA IS CORRECT >the ancient walled town of langres s. e. of magny fouchard & gen. de gaulle's village colombey enroute are important. >JOAN OF ARC'S VILLAGE OF (sacred,earthy) >DOMREMY IS CLOSE BY. >this whole region reeks with the >HISTORY OF THE KINGS OF (de vergy dynasty) >BURGUNDY & THE DUKES OF CHAMPAGNE AND +L O R R A I N E+ >the history of this region is complex and filled w/ degruy interest in (FROM VILLENEUVE ON) >so many different places it is a fascinating network. >THE HOUSE OF VERGY IS ONE OF (bergundian royalty) THE VERY OLDEST FRENCH (degruyere related) >NOBLE HOUSES SEE +WWW+. >INTERNET COVERAGE< gene ray, san diego, california

NOTE: in honor of inauguration day i discovered a website in arabic (NORTH AFRICAN) listed under +FOUCHER de CIRCE+ (blazon in colour) >ABIMELECH FOUCHER de CIRCE marriage to >MARIE d' ANGENNES de MAINTENON (french king's mistress) >THIS IS HOW I DISCOVERED THE >AMAZING WEBSITE< > bruno-b.htmi < ^^^^^^^^ >if you google this you will discover MUCH INFORMATION RELATING TO deGRUY FAMILY HISTORY. >from bruno chillaz< 1) yesterday i related the abel marigny / madame pompadour connection to our >DUSEAU de la CROIX and >BERNARD de MARIGNY (providing much food for thought) +TRANSCENDENT SYNCHRONICITY+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2) THOYRE CASTLE of bruno's ancestors (MY SEARCH FOR MONTHS) >deVIRY, (possible deVIRGY) sounds (amazing information) >EXACTLY LIKE MICHAEL deGRUYER's (shroud of turin owners) >MOTHER'S FAMILY & CASTLE >which is in the savoy region< >I AM ECSTATIC ABOUT THIS AND NEED TO CONTACT BRUNO (he may be in s.w. louisiana (MISS KITTY, PLEASE) >or in new orleans if you find him, let me know) 3)de LIVAUDAIS/ de MARIGNY: bruno's chronicle of that family history is very important for our history. >DID YOU NOTICE THAT JACQUES LIVAUDAIS WAS CAPTAIN OF THE "SOAME" IN 1739 THE YEAR ANTOINE WAS +A B O A R D+ ^^^^^^^ +may this inauguration atone, just+ +a little, all that degruy slavery+ MORE LATER..... gene ray, san diego, california

CENTANNI Irna Elizabeth Adams Centanni entered into rest on Thursday, January 15, AD2009. Wife of the late Rosario Centanni. Mother of Roy Dominic Centanni and the late Gene Anthony Centanni, Sr. and Kenneth James Centanni. Grandmother of Jason Patrick Centanni and Gene Anthony Centanni, Jr. Great-grandmother of Sean Patrick Centanni, Aidan Gareth Centanni and Erik Liam Centanni. Daughter of the late Ernest Adams and Alexina Francoise Hotard. Sister of the late Joseph Adams, Frank Adams, Lilier Adams, Albert Adams, Stella Adams, Percy Adams, John Adams and Jane Adams Penney. Born October 8, 1918 in Lockport, LA, Lafourche Parish. Lifelong resident of New Orleans, LA and Chalmette, LA. Resident of Magnolia, Texas since 2005. Past active member of the New Orleans Genealogical Society and St. Bernard Parish Genealogical Research Society. Viewing and Rosary service will be held on Monday, January 19, 2009 at 7:00 p.m. at St. Michael Roman Catholic Church, 24001 Aldine Westfield, Spring, Texas. Funeral Mass at St. Michael Roman Catholic Church on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 at 10:00 a.m. Entombment in Calvary Hill Mausoleum in Humble, Texas. Crespo Funeral Home - Navigation Chapel 2516 Navigation Blvd. Houston, Texas 77003 (713) 225-9567 Published in The Times-Picayune on 1/20/2009 ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

+BREAKING NEWS+ >last night on the website of a (baron BRUNO de chiwaz) >descendent of our >MARQUIS FOUCHER de CIRCE (intermarried w/ degruys) I LEARNED THE FOLLOWING..... >you recall i have written about the brother of madame de pompadour (king's official mistress) +ABEL de MARIGNY+ (abel poisson devandieres) (MOTHER/MADELINE LA MOTHE) >who was in charge of all royal buildings for french king +L O U I S X V+ ^^^^^^^^^ (the crucial information) +EMMANUEL DUSIAU de la CROIX+ >ancestor of our dusiau de la croix and ( verloin degruy related) >AND OUR de MARIGNY FAMILIES +WAS BORN IN PETIT VAL CASTLE+ +OWNED BY ABEL de MARIGNY.+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +this is amazing information that+ >MAKES MADAME dePOMPADOUR a blood relative of >BOTH THE de MARIGNY AND DUSIAU ae la CROIX FAMILIES !!! >O B S E R V AT I O N S< >i have written previously about the de marigny relationship to the (SEE deGRUY INDEX) >combined verloin degruy, de bore, foucher de circe and destrehan families. +BERNARD de MARIGNY WAS A+ +FAVORED deBORE NEPHEW+ (& destrehan son in law) >etienne de bore was father in law to pierre foucher husband of louise destrehan.>all loved +VERLOIN deGRUY+ & related to our family. (3 VERLOIN deGRUY BOYS married >3 FOUCHER GIRLS) >SECONDLY WE KNOW THAT JOSEPH DUSIAU de la CROIX MARRIED THE (marie therese aufrere) >WIDOW OF ANTOINE JEAN BAPTISTE VALENTIN VERLOIN dGRUY the question is....... >DOES THIS PROVIDE A NEW VIEW OF THE LEGEND OF ANTOINE'S (she became king's official mistress after antoine >left versailles) >ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIP AT VERSAILLES PALACE gene ray, san diego, california

+ON MARCH, 19, 2008+ (see degruy index for 2008) +ROOTSWEB INDEX+ >i wrote a message about our famous +foucher/debore ancestor+ +ETIENNE de BORE+ >former king's guard at versailles >MEDAL OF ST. LOUIS< >(1st modern improved sugar refiner in louisiana, saved colonial agriculture) +FRENCH ROYALIST LETTER+ >etienne de bore wrote a letter to his foucher/rouchehouart relative in +F R A N C E+ +COUNTESS de ROCHEHOUART= de limoges >de MONTBOSSIER >de MONTMART +FOUCHER DESCENDED+ >oldest french nobility except +BOURBON KINGS+ ^^^^^^^^^^^ +CLASSIC ROYALIST DRAMA+ >may i recommend your reading on the internet the amazing life of +GENERAL LOUIS VICTOR-LEON+ +de ROCHEHOUART+ >military governor of paris 1815-1821 >NO FICTION CAN MATCH HIS +AMAZING LIFE STORY+. +FRENCH REVOLUTION+ (plight of nobility) 1) mother flees france in 1794 after trying to aid marie antoinette. >SISTER DIES WANDERING (three days, paris) >STREETS, EXHAUSTED. 2) he and his brother, 4 & 6 turned into slaves @ pension in caen. +DUKE OF MONTMART+ (uncle) 5) freed by relative, spends years looking for mother w/o success +DUKE OF RICHELIEU+ (uncle) 6) always a royalist, many years as soldier beginning age 12 in (CONDE ARMY LOST) >portugal, russia, holland. germany, belgium etc. +(FINDS MOTHER, SHE DIES) (in poland) 7) becomes officer as 14 yearold and important in court of louis xviii +RETURN TO POWER+ 8) marries into nobility and assumes +ELIZABETH OUVARD+ >military leadership in paris. +WRITES HISTORY OF THE FAMILY +deROCHEHOUART+ (also his memoirs) +HE NAMED HIS DAUGHTER+ +V A L E N T I N E+ ( yes, valentin !) >also see "history and genealogy of the house of rochehouart" by george martin, (1992) +OBSERVATIONS+ >NOTE: he fought in many battles in the champagne / lorraine area +INCLUDING BRIENNE & FERE+ >verloin degruy mies en scene which (RELATED CHATEAUX) >i am planning and booking into +AUTUMN SAFARI 2009+ +SEARCH FOR SACRED SEEDS+ +LOIRE/CHAMPAGNE+ +PARIS/LORRAINE+ >additional interest in verloin degruy locations is that he was close to +MARSHAL NEY+ +WHO WAS FROM THE+ +PIEDMONT+ +dukes of bresse / savoy country+ >IN 1796-98 THE FIRST PLACE HE LOOKED FOR HIS MOTHER (she was in england) >WAS IN FRIEBURG (GRUYERE) >it would be valuable to read what +ETIENNE de BORE+ >wrote his rochehouart relatives in france during early 1800s. ( CHECK TULANE ARCHIVE ) >i shall try to do this in march enroute >to the french west indies< . +REMEMBER+ +OLD REGIME HOSPITALITY+ >the foucher/decirce/debore/degruy destrahan/fazande/gayarre +deMARIGNY, deDREIUX+ >and related families had hosted +FUTURE KINGS+ +TEMPLAR/LORRAINE RINGS+ >louis philippe and his brothers >during the revolution. >IT WAS IN THIS PERIOD THAT THE MARQUIS FOUCHER de CIRCE (see degruy photos) >LEFT NEW ORLEANS FOR +FRANCE, FOREVER+. gene ray, san diego, california

+TRAIL OF ROYAL BLOOD+ >a brief outline after 3 hours of +NOCTURNAL RESEARCH+ >i made so many discoveries last night of the verloin degruy dynasty tie to +FRENCH ROYAL HISTORY+ it is hard to know where to start.... (PROFOUND EARLY FIND) +DAGOBERT: marguerite dagobert was (FRENCH MEROVINGIAN KINGS) >descended from KING DAGOBERT. (knights templar connection) (PROFOUND NEW INFO.) +FOUCHER : the most proufound new revelation is that our foucher tie is that of the highest & oldest +ANCIENT REGIME+ +COUNT FOUCHER de LIMOGES+ was the main supporter of >FRENCH KING CHARLES THE BALD and his valor resulted in +A POWERFUL LENGTHY DYNASTY+ (CROWNED IN 876) >and history progendering several famous families. >START OF FRENCH FEUDAL SYSTEM BY COUNT FOUCHER de LIMOGES (also rovergue and autun) +++DESCENDENT FAMILIES+++ (verloin degruy lustre) a) LIMOGES b) ROUCHEHOUART c) TOULOUSE d) MONTMART e) deBROSSE + THE DE DREUX DYNASTY +TRANSCENDENT EMERGES+ >this is very complex and can be found on the world wide web +PERRY / ROCHEHOUART+ NOTE: i discovered this by researching the marriage of perry/rochehouart >NOTE: ROCHEHOURT ARE THE OLDEST FRENCH NOBILITY (except for the bourbon) >ULTIMATELY ONE IS LED TO THE +KNIGHTS TEMPLAR / CATHAR+ >southwest france where >THE COUNTS dePERRY WERE A (google for info) >ANOTHER POWERFUL OLD +REGIME DYNASTY+ >with transcendent connections to +THE ALBRET DYNASTY +THE KINGS OF NAVARRE and yes +THE FRENCH VALOIS KINGS including our +francois angouleme+ +FRENCH KING FRANCOIS 1st. >which leads us back to the +DUKES de MONTEMORENCY+ +KINGS OF LUXEMBURG+ +MARSHALS OF FRANCE+ etc, etc, etc, >CLAUDE dePERRY HELD TITLES THAT (chevar-leger-du-roi) >INDICATE HIS ROYAL CONNECTION (capt. depiney/luxemburg, seign. de la chauffie) >AND HIS KINSHIP WITH THE MONTEMORENCY DYNASTY (2nd only to the king) +THE FOUCHARD, AS IN MAGNY+ >(fouchard from foucher) +FOUCHARD, IS VERY RADIANT+ gene ray, san diego, california

+ANNE de MONTMORENCY+ (named after his mother) +GOVERNOR GENERAL OF FRANCE+ >comrade of king francois 1st and count michael de gruyere was warrior, diplo- mat, minister,devotee of the arts >SECOND ONLY TO THE KING IN POWER IN FRANCE. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +RADIANT NEIGHBOR+ >he owned 600 feudal properties 130 chateau and baronies, 4 paris mansions plus many other assorted places. +CHATEAU & CASTLE+ +VENDEUVRE SUR BARTH+ >2 km west of the verloin degruy MAGNY FOUCHARD were two of this +MONTMORENCY / BOUTTEVILLE+ >family chateau/castle holdings< +ECOUEN CHATEAU+ >(now renaissance and >legion of honor museum) +1540-1550+ >the major montmorency palace is located in the montmorency park only 5 km. n. of the old paris outer walls & gates. +GOOGLE THE COMPLEX HISTORY+ >he was too powerful and was finally banishied from francois 1st court. ( POKED FUN @ THE KING'S M I S T R E S S ) >even though he had saved the kings life @ battle of pavia. >BUT HIS DESCENDENTS CAME BACK INTO REGAL POWER. (it all reads like fiction) +SERVING 6 KINGS+ +(LIKE deGRUYERE/ deGRUY)+ >becoming louis xiv leading general and royalty of the luxemburg. +VERLOIN deGRUY/PERRY/ +BOSSANCOURT (castles, chateau, dynasties) >AND RELATED FAMILIES CERTAINLY BENEFITED AT VERSAILLES WITH THIS HISTORY OF FRENCH +NOBLE POWER+ +CRUSADE/TEMPLAR KNIGHTS+ >for us it adds lustre to the verloin degruy family history and adds an expanded mies en scene. >ADDED TO THE BRIENNE, CHOISEUL, CHAMPAGNE, LORRAINE DYNASTIES (shroud of lyrey) >with the crusade/knights templar SHROUD / ST. BERNARD VIRGEY/CHARNEY >+DYNAMIC+< >(larry king would have a field day)< WITH THE VERLOIN deGRUY +DRAMATIC HISTORY+ with pompadour spices and >INTERTWINED WITH THE TEMPLAR/CRUSADE +MYSTIQUE+ gene ray, san diego, california

My son, Louis, found a Lt. Louis F. DeGruy served in the LA Confederate Cavalry during the civil War. I don't remember anything else. I'll see where he got the information for the group. God Bless, Lou DeGruy III -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Celine Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DEGRUY] Prof. Ekberg sends us a record re Jean Baptiste de Gruy Renee, That comes from the following book: "Honor & Fidelity, The Louisiana Infantry Regiment & Louisiana Militia Companies, 1766 - 1821"; Jack D.L. Holmes; (Provincial Press, Ville Platte, Louisiana) Celine -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of listadministratordegruyl Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 1:45 PM To: GEN Degruy Mailing list at Rootsweb Subject: [DEGRUY] Prof. Ekberg sends us a record re Jean Baptiste de Gruy Just got an email from Professor Carl Ekberg with a note: Attached is a the service sheet for Jean-Baptiste de Gruy when he served in the Spanish militia. I imagine he's a relative of yours. I will transcribe the record here and then post it on the web site once I have the proper source annotation, which I don't have at the moment: 523. Gruy, Juan Bautista de Service sheet: Dec. 31, 1800, AGI, PC, leg. 161-a. Country: New Orleans Age: 51 Health: robust Marital status: married Ranks: Volunteer [Sept. 25, 1774]; sublieutenant [Feb. 7, 1789]; first lieutenant [Feb. 12, 1792] Regiments: German Coast Militia [17 years. 4 mos. 14 days]: German Coast Disciplined Provincial Militia [8 yrs. 10 mos. 19 days]. Campaigns: Ft. Bute of Manchak & Baton Rouge; Mobile [1780]. Notes: known valor; average application; good capacity & conduct This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact." All data should be verified. Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact." All data should be verified. Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HELLO RENEE, >i saw the "last templar" novel at the library but frankly believe the well researched, factual books to be (& VIDEO MATERIAL) >of greater value for us. >there is also a lot on the >world wide web) THANKS MUCH gene

+REGAL BIRDS OF A FEATHER+ >in 1528 louise de savoy, king francois 1st mother & michael de gruyere's god mother gave the castle +FERE EN TARDENOIS+ >originally dreux family chateau< +(ROBERT deDREUX, KING LOUIS VI GRANDSON) >to the family of the great general ANNE de MONTMORENCY >THE DESCENDENTS WHO WERE THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS OF THE >castle vendeuvre< +VERLOIN de GRUY DYNASTY+ >at magny fouchard< >THE DREUX FAMILY DESCENDENTS LIKE ANTOINE JEAN BAPTISTE VALENTIN VERLOIN deGRUY >had immigrated to new orleans +SYNCHRONICITY+ >SHIPS IN THE NIGHT< >in the 1960s bob dreux worked at the drawing table next to mine at the curtis & davis office. >LITTLE DID WE KNOW< >I BET THE VERLOIN/DUFOUCHARD (AND de BACHEMIN) >deGRUY FAMILY KNEW THE HISTORY IN GREAT DETAIL ! gene ray, san diego, california

Just got home and had a telephone message from David Perrin. Remember that a while back, at David's request, I sent an email saying that a mantel which was located in a Degruy home in the French Quarter was going to be sold because David had no place to keep it? At first no one responded and then someone [not a Degruy] bought the mantel. Then Dr. Judice contacted us and said he'd like to use the mantel. So David contacted the man he had sold it to and the man agreed to sell it back so the mantel could be kept "in the family." However, when Dr. Judice contacted the man, it turned out the mantel was too small. So..... the mantel is available once again, if there is someone "out there" who wants a bit of Degruy history for his or her home. If anyone is interested, contact me off list and I will give you David's phone number so you can make the necessary arrangements. R RHB [No Chain Emails Please!]

The following messages from Laurie Main and Virginia Pruet were hung up in the Rootsweb mailing list administration folders. I've extracted only the messages themselves and am posting them here. The probably reason that the messages got "hung up" is that either Laurie or Virginia, or both, simply hit "Reply." Why is that a problem? If the message to which they were responding was very brief, then their message wouldn't have gotten hung up. But if they hit 'Reply" to one message in an entire Digest.... or if the message they were responding to was a very long message itself, then Rootsweb simply cannot handle the resulting length.... and the message gets "hung up." So, please keep in mind: if you hit reply to a Digest message or if you hit reply to an individual message that is very long in and of itself, please delete everything other than the specific message or sentence that you are replying to. Otherwise, your message will get hung up at Rootsweb, and no one will ever see it. Here are the two messages in question: ------------------------- In a message dated 1/15/2009 2:26:16 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: My thoughts lean toward the idea that this was more a financial divorce than anything else. Pery evidently (if I remember correctly he was a bit in over his head in business) was in debt and was "loosing " or using his wife's dowry/money and property for his business dealings. This divorce of bed & board was to preserve the wife's financial security, not necessarily to separate the couple. Anyone else's ideas? Virginia Pruet ----------------------- Yes Virginia, I believe that is correct. From the revised Civil Code of the State of Louisiana 1871. Laurie Main RHB [No Chain Emails Please!]

My thoughts lean toward the idea that this was more a financial divorce than anything else. Pery evidently (if I remember correctly he was a bit in over his head in business) was in debt and was "loosing " or using his wife's dowry/money and property for his business dealings. This divorce of bed & board was to preserve the wife's financial security, not necessarily to separate the couple. Anyone else's ideas? Virginia Pruet **************Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's capital. (http://news.aol.com/main/politics/inauguration?ncid=emlcntusnews00000003)

+APOCALYPTIC DISCOVERY+ >another tie between king francois 1st, count michael de gruyere and our >VERLOIN/DUFOUCHARD deGRUY FAMILY IN NEW ORLEANS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >but first lets establish that the first degruy kinsmen in +NEW ORLEANS+ (documented) were +THE DREUX BROTHERS+ (bachemin/degruy related) >WITH BIENVILLE IN 1718 ( bayou st. jean ) >IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THEY WERE FRENCH KING DESCENDED (king louis vi, 1084, 1108, 1137) >in perspective< >at the birth of new orleans FRENCH KING LOUIS XV (degruy colonial family king) (born 1715) >ETIENNE FRANCOIS de CHOISEUL COUNT de STAINVILLE/MONTEYNARD >force behind the french colonies< (degruyere counts descendent) (born 1719) and our own ANTOINE JEAN BAPTISTE VALENTIN VERLOIN deGRUY (degruyere counts descendent) (born 1719) >were obviously all very close in age +AND PROBABLY IN LIFE'S DRAMA+ daily at the palace ( MADAME dePOMPADOUR >could help us here) >they were probably all educated at THE MILITARY SCHOOL ATTACHED ( saint cyr ) >TO THE VERSAILLES PALACE >(as was some of the new orleans (deSTRAHAN/DREUX) >french colonial degruy relatives) (read grace king on this) +IMPORTANT NOTE+ >mathurin dreux who was w/ bienville at (ARRIVING IN 1718) >the founding of new orleans. (he laid out the vieux carre) had a brother +PIERRE DREUX+ (they developed gentilly together) >WHO BECAME A deGRUY ANCESTOR BY MARRYING ANNE CORBIN de BACHEMIN DAUGHTER OF (dufouchard line) +JEAN CORBIN deBACHEMIN+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +NEW ORLEANS SHOWCASE+ >the brothers & wives had a showcase plantation near bayou st. jean on >BAYOU ROAD<. +BACK IN FRANCE+ the history of the dreux family >IS A GLORIOUS REGAL CHRONICLE ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >beginning with the comte de dreux 5TH SON OF FRENCH KING LOUIS VI (1108-1113) >whose queen was adelaide of + S A V O Y + >louise of savoy, francois 1st >mother inherited castle... +CHATEAU FERE-EN-TARDENOIS+ (reims n. of magny fouchard) >was constructed as a fortified castle (1206 1260) BY ROBERT de DREUX GRANDSON (degruy ancestor) +OF FRENCH KING LOUIS VI+ +S Y N C H R O N I C I T Y+ >the history of this castle that is so PROFOUND FOR ALL deGRUY FAMILY MEMBERS >is that chateau fere-en-tardenois (google for information) >WAS THE PLAYGROUND OF ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >FRENCH KING FRANCOIS 1st and his blood brother +PRINCE MICHAEL de GRUYERE (last count of gruyere) >ANOTHER IMPORTANT REGAL TIE OF THE VERLOIN/DUFOUCHARD deGRUY FAMILY TO THEIR EUROPEAN HERITAGE ! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ to be continued.... gene ray, san diego, california

"Honor & Fidelity, The Louisiana Infantry Regiment & Louisiana Militia Companies, 1766 - 1821";  Jack D.L. Holmes; (Provincial Press, Ville Platte, Louisiana) 1965 list of officers and non-commissioned officers of the louisiana militia outfits for whom no service sheets were found also on page 230 #883 DEGRUI, Jean Bautista: first lieutenant, breveted captain, German coast disciplined provencial militia , 1792. #884 DEGRUIRRE, Andres, lieutenant, St. Genevieve militia 1794 there are a few pages of 'sources' where Holmes found his information this is a must have book for research in New Orleans JUDY ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bc d=DecemailfooterNO62)

Renee, That comes from the following book: "Honor & Fidelity, The Louisiana Infantry Regiment & Louisiana Militia Companies, 1766 - 1821"; Jack D.L. Holmes; (Provincial Press, Ville Platte, Louisiana) Celine -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of listadministratordegruyl Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 1:45 PM To: GEN Degruy Mailing list at Rootsweb Subject: [DEGRUY] Prof. Ekberg sends us a record re Jean Baptiste de Gruy Just got an email from Professor Carl Ekberg with a note: Attached is a the service sheet for Jean-Baptiste de Gruy when he served in the Spanish militia. I imagine he's a relative of yours. I will transcribe the record here and then post it on the web site once I have the proper source annotation, which I don't have at the moment: 523. Gruy, Juan Bautista de Service sheet: Dec. 31, 1800, AGI, PC, leg. 161-a. Country: New Orleans Age: 51 Health: robust Marital status: married Ranks: Volunteer [Sept. 25, 1774]; sublieutenant [Feb. 7, 1789]; first lieutenant [Feb. 12, 1792] Regiments: German Coast Militia [17 years. 4 mos. 14 days]: German Coast Disciplined Provincial Militia [8 yrs. 10 mos. 19 days]. Campaigns: Ft. Bute of Manchak & Baton Rouge; Mobile [1780]. Notes: known valor; average application; good capacity & conduct This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact." All data should be verified. Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

+ANOTHER VERLOIN deGRUY+ >family connection w/ +FRENCH KING FRANCOIS 1ST+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +SYNCHRONICITY+ >yesterday i discovered a novel based on our ALBRET DYNASTY history ("young henry of navarre" >by heinrich mann. ) >WITH CONNECTION TO FRENCH KING FRANCOIS 1ST ( gruy/savoy tie) +AND HIS SISTER MARGUERITE+ +OF VALOIS/NAVARRE+ (their mother louise de savoy) >OUR deGRUY ANCESTOR, GUILLAUME de PAMPLUME OF THE KINGS OF (pamplume=pamploma) >PAMPLUME/NAVARRE, FIGURES IN THIS ROMANTIC STORY. +PRANGEY CASTLE+ >on this same day i discovered an amazing story set 60 km. s.e. >CHAMPAGNE REGION< >at prangey castle from our +MAGNY FOUCHARD+ (degruy chateau) +PAMPLUME / de AULNEY+ >guillaume de pamplume married our +ANGELBERTE de AULNAY+ >at magny fouchard in the 16th cent. +MARGUERITE OF BURGUNDY+ (VALOIS) +QUEEN OF NAVARRE+ >and her sisters in law, blanche de la marche & jeanne de poitiers used >THE CASTLE @ PRANGEY FOR SECRET >LOVE AFFAIRS WITH... YES.. +PHILLIP & GAUTIER deAULNAY+ (officers of their court) >brothers of our +de AULNAY FAMILY DYNASTY+ +OVERVIEW+ >BIRDS OF A FEATHER< >it is logical that guillaume de pamplume +VERLOIN deGRUY DYNASTY+ >and his wife angelberte deaulnay were (PAMPLOMA/NAVARRE) >in some way involved in this romantic (HOSTING THE QUEEN ?) >drama set only 60 km. from chateau +MAGNY FOUCHARD+ "COOKING IN A CASTLE" by william l. kaufman (focus on castle hotel dining >more then love affairs, +(DESPITE THE TITLE)+ +REEKING WITH PASSION+ >"cooking in a castle"< >is one of my favorite all time books and (CAN BE GOOGLED) >features chateau de prangey where marianne & i hope to stay in sept. >it also features the chateau of +DUKE de CHOISEUL+ gene ray, san diego, california

Hi I've been working with an Ancestor Sheet for Jean Baptiste Degruy. It's way too long [14 pages] to post here. If anyone out there would like to consult with me [maybe some direct descendants would have more]: go over what I have, correct anything, add anything [I may be missing a lot], etc... to get it into shape, please contact me off list. Once we get it ready, we can post on web site R

Just got an email from Professor Carl Ekberg with a note: Attached is a the service sheet for Jean-Baptiste de Gruy when he served in the Spanish militia. I imagine he's a relative of yours. I will transcribe the record here and then post it on the web site once I have the proper source annotation, which I don't have at the moment: 523. Gruy, Juan Bautista de Service sheet: Dec. 31, 1800, AGI, PC, leg. 161-a. Country: New Orleans Age: 51 Health: robust Marital status: married Ranks: Volunteer [Sept. 25, 1774]; sublieutenant [Feb. 7, 1789]; first lieutenant [Feb. 12, 1792] Regiments: German Coast Militia [17 years. 4 mos. 14 days]: German Coast Disciplined Provincial Militia [8 yrs. 10 mos. 19 days]. Campaigns: Ft. Bute of Manchak & Baton Rouge; Mobile [1780]. Notes: known valor; average application; good capacity & conduct