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    1. [DEGRUY] Francois George Hotard, Jr. OBIT
    2. HOTARD Francois George Hotard, Jr. passed away on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 at 8:00 am at Kenner Regional Hospital. Age 78. He was a Retired Electrician with GATX. A veteran Aviation Electrician's Mate Third Class in the United States Navy. He is survived by his beloved wife of 13 years, Earline Hernandez Hotard; brother, Felix F. Hotard, sister, Betty Halfkespring; one stepdaughter, Rhonda Gaudin; and one grandson, George Gaudin. Preceded in death by: parents, Francois G. Hotard, Sr. and Robentine Minvieue; brothers: Daniel Hotard, Robert Hotard and Edmond Hotard; and sisters: Gertrude Hotard, Lucy Nevils and Denise Nevils. Visitation will be held on Thursday, February 26, 2009 from 9:00 am until 11:00 am at the St. Charles Borromeo Catholic Church in Destrehan, LA. Mass of Christian Burial will be held at 11:00 am from the church with Fr. Mon. Harry Bugler and Rev. Steve Aguillard officiating. Interment will follow in the St. Charles Mausoleum. Funeral arrangements under he direction of H. C. ALEXANDER FUNERAL HOME IN NORCO, LA. The family invites you to share your thoughts and fond memories in the Guest Book at: www.mem.com. Published in The Times-Picayune on 2/25/2009 ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)

    02/26/2009 01:47:29
    1. [DEGRUY] more Degruy references
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    3. Degruy is mentioned 8 times in the following document from http://openjurist.org/56/us/14/the-united-states-v-jean-baptiste-dauterieve Not giving whole thing here because too long. Go to link...... Open Jurist content is usable under a Creative Commons License. Home > U.S. > 56 U.S. 56 US 14 The United States v. Jean Baptiste D'Auterieve 56 U.S. 14 15 How. 14 14 L.Ed. 580 THE UNITED STATES, APPELLANTS, v. JEAN BAPTISTE D'AUTERIEVE, PONPONNE LE BLANC AND OTHERS, HEIRS AND LEGAL REPRESENTATIVES OF JEAN ANTOINE BERNARD D'AUTERIEVE, DECEASED. December Term, 1853 1 THIS was an appeal from the District Court of the United States, for the Eastern District of Louisiana. 2 The history of the claim is fully set forth in the opinion of the court. 3 It was argued by Mr. Cushing, (Attorney-General,) for the United States, and submitted on a printed argument, by Messrs. Janin and Taylor, for the appellees. 4 The points made on the part of the United States were the following:------ 5 1. That the claim of the petitioners, founded on the alleged grant by the Western Company is not open for discussion, the petitioners having taken no appeal from the decree of the court below, confirming their claim to the extent only of the forty-four arpens of front, and excepting even out of this confirmation the forty in depth on the front granted to the Acadians. But if it were, then every thing relating to that grant and its extent and locality, and what interest D'Auterieve had in it, are so vague and uncertain that it would be impossible to identify and locate the land, and the grant would have to be declared void. 6 2. That D'Auterieve, by accepting the new concessions from the Spanish authorities, thereby waived all claims under the grant of the Western Company. 7 3. That the edict of 1728, and the alleged order of O'Reilly reducing the extent of the lands and the granting of them to others, subsequent to the alleged concessions, are acts for which the petitioners can have no relief against the United States, being the acts of competent French and Spanish authorities during the time these powers held the sovereignty of the country. ******some omitted 14 The brief of Messrs. Janin and Taylor was as follows:------ 15 The petitioners in this action seek to obtain the confirmation of a tract of land as described in their petition, extending from within forty arpens of the Mississippi river to the Atchafalaya. Their title to it is asserted to result from a grant made by the 'Western Company,' created by the King of France, in 1717, to Paris Duvernay, having four leagues front on the western bank of the Mississippi river, opposite Bayou Manchac, and extending back to the Atchafalaya river. And from the proceedings of the Spanish government in relation to it, after the transfer of Louisiana by France to Spain, under the treaty of 1762, by which the front on the Mississippi was reduced to forty-four arpens, between side lines, the beginning and courses of which were established in 1772, by the proper surveying officer, and approved by the then governor, with the former depth to the Atchafalaya. *****some omitted 1st. Historical Evidence. 19 1st. Mention is made of it in Martin's History of Louisiana, vol. 1, pp. 205 and 246. In that work it is spoken of as one of the large grants made by the 'Western Company' to promote the settlement of the colony, and is described as situated on the right bank of the Mississippi, opposite Bayou Manchac. 20 The arrival of the settlers sent out by Duvernay in or about 1718, to be established on the grant, is related in Martin's History, (vol. 1, p. 206,) and it is also spoken of by Bernard de la Harpe, in his 'Journale Historique de l'establissement des Francais a la Louisiana,' p. 142. 2d. Documentary Evidence. 21 1. The existence of the grant is clearly shown by the descriptions of the contents of different papers found by the public officer, who made an inventory in due form of law of the effects left by Claude Trenonay de Chamfret, at Point Coupee, in Louisiana, on the 10th of July, 1793. *******some omitted 34 The act, at page 36, of the transcript, executed by Trenonay, makes mention of his claim against his uncle, Claude Trenonay de Chamfret, for the alienation of property belonging to him; and that at page 37, recites that de Chamfret had given up an obligation of D'Auterieve for the sum of fourteen thousand four hundred and sixty-six livres, the balance of the sale of the plantation at bayou Goula, comprised in the donation to him. In the examination of papers contained in the inventory before referred to, there is one described as the decree of the council, condemning D'Auterieve to pay to Trenonay the amount of his obligation for 14,456 livres. 35 And this brings us to a new epoch. No trace has been discovered of the original grant. If it remained in the hands of the original grantee, it was doubtless soon lost after he, or his heirs, ceased to have any interest in the land comprised in it. The Western Company ceased to exist long before the transfer of Louisiana by France to Spain, in 1769. After Spain took possession of the Province, O'Reilly, the first Governor, by an arbitrary exercise of power, declared his determination to reduce the front of D'Auterieve, the then owner of the concession, to a front of twenty arpens. There is, however, no written evidence of this fact, but what results from the statement made by Andry, in the proces verbal of his survey. Unzaga, the succeeding Governor, did not carry out the determination of O'Reilly. He reduced the front on the river, however, to forty-four arpens, but left to D'Auterieve the original depth to the Atchafalaya. This appears from the copy of the proces verbal of the survey made by Andry, under the authority of the Governor General, on the 12th of March, 1772, to be found at page 27, of the printed transcript, and the plan or map representing the same at page 40, of the original transcript, and from the express approval of the survey, proces verbal, and plan, which were laid before him on the 28th of March, 1772, made and given in writing on the 12th of July, of the same year, 1772. There are translations of the material parts of the proces verbal of the survey, made by Mr. Janin, and embodied in a brief presented by him to the land office in 1835 or 1836, at page 21, of the transcript, and a translation of the letter of Unzaga approving it, also embodied in the same brief, at page 22. 36 From these proceedings, three facts are rendered indisputable. 1st. That it was to the knowledge of the Spanish government that a valid grant existed, under the authority of France, for a very large tract of land at the point in question, the title to which at the time vested in D'Auterieve, of which the tract comprised in the lines established by the survey, made a part. 2d. That it had a very wide front on the river; and 3d. That it extended back in depth to the Atchafalaya. 37 The parol evidence of Degruys, as to the existence, location, and extent of the grant, is very clear and distinct. The portions of his deposition relating to these points are in harmony with the proceedings and acts of the Spanish government, as shown in the record. *****some omitted 41 These two tracts constituted the upper and lower boundaries of the tract left to D'Auterieve, and the lower and upper lines, respectively, determine the direction of the side lines of the claim. 42 D'Auterieve continued in possession of this property up to his death. He entered into a contract for erecting a mill there in 1772. He died there in 1776. 43 D'Auterieve, at his death, left several young children, who were his heirs. After the death of D'Auterieve, his widow, the same year, (1776,) sold six arpens of the front, with the depth of forty arpens. The remainder of the front, to the depth of forty arpens only, was afterwards comprised in an arrangement made by Degruys, with Governor Galvez, as stated in his deposition before referred to. The statement of Degruys is confirmed by the fact that the surveys of the different portions of the front were all made long after the arrangement spoken of by him, (being, in point of fact, made in 1796,) and that it is stated in the proces verbals of the surveys that these lands were those which were contained in the forty arpens from the concession of Mr. D'Auterieve, for the establishment of the Acadian families. (See proces verbal of survey, by Pintado, and forming part of the concession of Mr. Dotrive, which was destined for the establishment of the Acadian families, and 'which were taken for the establishment of the French Acadian families, from the concession of Mr. Dotrive.' ******some omitted 47 The heirs of D'Auterieve filed their petition under the act of Congress of the 17th June, 1844, which provides for the adjustment of certain land claims against the government, setting up a claim to a large tract in the parish of Iberville, on the west bank of the Mississippi river, at a place called Bayou Goula, some thirty leagues above the city of New Orleans. The decree below is in favor of the heirs, and the case is now before us on an appeal by the United States. 48 The petition sets out a charter from the King of France, in August, 1717, by which the province of Louisiana was granted to the Western or Mississippi Company; and also a grant from that company in the same year, to Paris Duvernay, a wealthy capitalist of France, of a tract of land fronting on the western bank of the Mississippi opposite Bayou Manchac, having four leagues front on the river, and extending back in the rear to the river Atchafalaya. That soon after this, Duvernay fitted out a company of sixty men, under the direction of his agent Dubuisson, all of whom arrived at New Orleans in the spring of 1716, and immediately thereafter settled upon the tract; the settlement was known as the 'Bayou Goula Concession,' the principal establishment being in the neighborhood of the village of the Bayou Goulas Indians. That the settlement was kept up by Duvernay for many years at great expense, and under many difficulties, and contributed materially towards the establishment of the French dominion in Lower Louisiana. 49 The petition further states, that in 1765, Duvernay, through his agent, Tremonay De Chamfret, sold the tract in question to Bernard D'Auterieve, the ancestor of the present claimants, and delivered to him the possession. That in 1769, after O'Reilly had taken possession of the province, on behalf of the King of Spain in pursuance of the treaty of 1762, he gave orders that the Bayou Goula Concession should be reduced from four leagues to twenty arpens front, but that Unzaga, his successor, in 1772, enlarged it to forty-four arpens on the river, and ordered a survey of the same by Luis Andry, the government surveyor, which was made accordingly on the 12th of March, 1772, and approved by the Governor, 12th July, of the same year. D'Auterieve continued to occupy and improve the tract, making it his place of residence, from 1765, the date of his purchase, till his death, 24th of March, 1776. That the widow remained in possession with her children till 1779, when she married Jean Babtiste Degruys, who resided at Attakapas, to which place they removed. 50 The petition further states, that about this time, Galvez, the then Governor of Louisiana, desirous of introducing some Spanish families from the Canary Islands as colonists, and to provide a settlement for them, made contracts with various persons for the construction of small houses, and, among others, with Degruys; who undertook to build a number on the Bayou Goula Concession, and to give up the front on the river to the use of these colonists, with forty arpens in depth; that he built a number of these houses, and delivered them to the Governor, and was paid for them; but not in accordance with the agreement. That the government having become engaged in a war against the province of of West Florida, the Governor changed his purposes in behalf of the Spanish families, and assigned a different location for their accommodation, but subsequently set apart this tract with the cabins erected, to a number of Acadian emigrants, who had been some years previously driven from their ancient possessions in Nova Scotia by the British government. The petition states, that Degruys and his family continued to reside at Attakapas, where they had other property; that the back land in Bayou Goula Concession, being either low swamp land, or nearly inaccessible, and of little value, was neglected by the family, and especially by Degruys, the head of it, and some portions were subsequently granted to others by the Spanish government, in ignorance of the rights of the ancestors of the present claimants. The petitioners admit that no claim was set up to these back lands, from the time the front was surrendered to Governor Galvez, which must have been about the year 1780, down till 1821 or 1822, when the heirs employed the late Mr. Edward Livingston, as their attorney, to inquire into their claims. They state that the children of D'Auterieve, at the time of his death were under age; that there were four of them; and at the time of the removal of the family from the Concession to Attakapas, the eldest, Antoine, was only fourteen years old, the second, Louis, twelve, the third, Marigny, six; the fourth, Dubrelet, died in infancy. Antoine died in 1812, leaving four children; Marigny in 1828, leaving no issue; Louis, in 1814, leaving four children. These descendants of D'Auterieve have instituted the present proceedings. The widow died in 1811. Degruys, the husband, was living at the commencement of this suit, and had been examined, as a witness, on behalf of the claimants. *** some omitted 52 As it respects the first ground of title, the grant to Duvernay in 1717, no record of it has been produced, and, after a thorough examination of the archives of that date, both at New Orleans and at Paris, and in the appropriate offices for the deposit of such records, none can be found. The only proof furnished is to be found in the historical sketches given to the public, of the first settlement of Louisiana by the French government, under the direction of the Western or Mississippi Company, together with some documentary evidence relating to the settlement of the plantation by Duvernay, through his agents, such as powers of attorney, and some intermediate transfers of the titles, in the course of the agency. But unfortunately, neither the historical sketches, or documentary evidence, furnish any information as to the extent of the grant or its boundaries. 53 The several historians of the transactions of the Western Company in Louisiana of that date, concur in stating that agriculture was one of the first objects of encouragement in the colony; that the company thought the most effectual mode of accomplishing it would be to make large concessions of land to the most wealthy and powerful personages in the kingdom. Accordingly, one of four leagues square, on the Arkansas river, was made to John Law, the famous projector of the company, and *** some omitted 55 And in the second place, the tract claimed as derived from Duvernay is without boundaries or location. The only description that has been referred to, or which we have been able to find, after a pretty thorough search, even in historical records, is that it was a grant of a large tract upon the right bank of the Mississippi river, opposite Bayou Manchac, a point some thirty leagues above New Orleans. In the intermediate transfers and powers of attorney, found in the record, it is referred to as a plantation or concession, known by the name of 'Le Dubuisson,' the name of the first agent, or by the name of 'Bayou Goula Village,' the name of an ancient Indian village at that place on the river. We have no evidence of the extent of the concession on the river, or of its depth back, or of any landmarks designating the tract, by which it can be regarded as severed from the public domain. 59 These acts of O'Reilly and Unzaga have been urged as a confirmation by the Spanish government, pro tanto, of the French grant to Duvernay; and it may be admitted that they are entitled to great weight in that aspect of the case. But this view cannot avail the petitioners here, as the effect would be simply the confirmation of a complete and perfect title, which we have seen cannot be dealt with under this act of 1844. The title thus confirmed must necessarily partake of the nature of the one derived under the French concession or grant. *** rest omitted

    02/25/2009 12:20:18
    1. [DEGRUY] records which might be researched
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    3. This is from: Louisiana. City Court of New Orleans. Inventory, Suit Records #3251-3500 http://nutrias.org/inv/citycourt/cc14.htm Would it help us to look up the actual records? And where would we do this? Jno. J. TOURNADE Jn. Bte. DEGRUY and M. DAUTERIVE and Ls. DAUTERIVE 3408 ------------------------ ANTOINE MARIGNY DAUTERIVE J.B. DEGRUYS 3366 ----------------------- ADELINE DAUTERIVE J.B. DEGRUYS 3367 ------------------------ LOUIS DAUTERIVE J.B. DEGRUYS 3368 -------------------------- JEAND MARIE CASTAREDE J.B. DEGRUYS 3403 --------------------------

    02/25/2009 12:09:46
    1. [DEGRUY] Etienne Degruy mentioned
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    3. Link: http://www.archive.org/stream/louisianaaguidet010578mbp/louisianaaguidet010578mbp_djvu.txt FORT LIVINGSTON, on the southern point of Grande Terre Island, directly opposite Grand Isle, about 1 m. across Barataria Pass, is reached by boat from Grand Isle. Only ruins of high brick walls and a few rusted cannon remain. When Lafitte withdrew from Grand Isle in 1814, a detachment of United States soldiers occupied this spot. Records of the War Department show that the reservation was sold ^by Etienne deGruy and wife to the State in 1834. The State deeded the reservation to the Federal Government in 1834. It is believed that construction started in 1835, but work progressed so slowly that the fort was not completed until 1861. The Confederates took possession at the outbreak of the War between the States but evacuated April 27, 1862. On October 26, 1863, the i6th Regiment Main Infantry of the Federals was stationed there. After the war the fort was no longer garrisoned, and following the hurricane of 1893, which partially destroyed it, it was definitely abandoned. From Renee: Think this comes from: Louisiana A Guide To The State (1941) Author: Harry Hansen Publisher: Hastings House Language: English Call number: 10578 Book contributor: Universal Digital Library Collection: universallibrary

    02/25/2009 12:01:16
    1. [DEGRUY] another possible source to investigate; although retrieving the actual records might be expensive from afar
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    3. This came in on the LAORLEAN list. Do we know if our Degruys used any particular notary? From: "Jan Strickland" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LAORLEAN] NO Notarial Archives To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" from home page: The Notarial Archives is a government agency that files and maintains land records and other contracts recorded in Orleans Parish. In addition, the Notarial Archives assists Notary Public applicants by offering testing and application information. The agency also serves historical researchers and genealogists through its research center. You can still look at the old Notary files volume by volume and page by page which BTW, is very interesting and sort of like sitting down and going page by page. *If you know that a family used a certain Notary, like maybe Narcisse Broutin, they have scanned the books, some in original handwritting some transcribed years ago and they are on line at this link: * http://www.notarialarchives.org/research.htm go to bottom of page Jan S AND As I wrote yesterday, this URL only takes you to the INDEXES for certain early notaries--it doesn't include every notary. You can learn the names of the parties, the type of act, and the page/act number. There are NO actual notarial acts available online. Carolyn AND Thanks, Carolyn. They are a joy to just read through and if you have done > any research in Louisiana, you will see names that are familiar. I am > having a ball, just looking through the volumes, even the hand written ones. > This will do fine, it's sort of like going to a reasearch library and looking > page by page, which is something I adore doing. You never know what you might > find. What a great source to have scanned and online. Any new source is > terrific for me way over here in Florida. > > Jan S - Orlando, FL

    02/24/2009 11:36:23
    1. [DEGRUY] DESERT MEDITATIONS & MARDI GRAS / RENNES LE CHATEAU & our rich MEROVINGIAN BLOOD flowing in your +REGAL VEINS ! >give david my very best regards
    2. Eugene Ray
    3. +DESERT MEDITATIONS+ >marianne and i leave this a.m. for PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA >for 2 days of communion with +DESERT WILD FLOWERS+ +MARDI GRAS VISIONS+ >we shall spend fat tuesday with snowbird friends from chicago >I LEAVE YOU WITH 2 MARDI GRAS >VERLOIN deGRUY GIFTS. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 1) if you google :...... EUGENE RAY / HOUSE IN ORANGE ST. you will find out how we relate to ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +LEONCE SONIAT-DUFOSSAT+ >king rex of carnival, 1972 (KINDLY, NOBLE) >and how he descends from our PERRY/SAULET BLOODLINE ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >and the history of the magnificent +SAULET PLANTATION HOUSE+ (1763 and 1832 versions) >AND THE GLORIOUS deGRUY/SAULET UNION THAT SO MANY OF US (14 energetic children) >DESCEND HAPPILY FROM. 2) if you google :.... EUGENE RAY / RENNES LE CHATEAU >you will find out how we are loaded with +MEROVINGIAN BLOOD+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >MARGUERITE DAGOBERT was not alone carrying merovingian blood. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >VILLENEUVE, BOSSANCOURT, VERLOING VERGY, CHARNEY, ANJOU, JOINVILLE, LA ROCHE, SAVOY, PAMPLUME, GRUYERE, GENEVOIS, AULNAY, RICHEBOURG, etc., etc. >were also carriers of the precious +MEROVINGIAN BLOODLINE+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >those crusader/templar/shroud +BIRDS OF A FEATHER+ >all had passionate agendas >THE RENNES LE CHATEAU MYSTERY IS DEEPLY ATTACHED TO OUR HISTORY IN CHAMPAGNE AND SWITZERLAND. +REV SAUNIERE'S TREASURE+ >did king dagobert of troyes take 180 tons of gold, jewels and art +TO RENNES LE CHATEAU+ (1956 est. 4000 billion francs) >or as some believe was it the great +KING/SAINT LOUIS IX+ the last powerful crusader >WHOSE MOTHER WAS QUEEN BLANCHE OF CASTILLE >who died on the 8th crusade leaving the french treasure @ RENNES LE CHATEAU ( 1249 ) >hidden for safekeeping. >OUR GRUYERE KNIGHTS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >it is a documented fact that our deCHARNEY/ deVIRGY (deGRUYERE) >ANCESTRAL FAMILY OWNED LAND +AT RENNES LE CHATEAU+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >and the house of habsburg descendents were very interested visitors. >REMEMBER REV. SAUNIERES SWISS BANK ACCOUNTS ! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >meditate on all this for a +HAPPY MARDI GRAS+ gene ray, san diego, california

    02/23/2009 04:39:40
    1. [DEGRUY] NEW ORLEANS DYNAMIQUE / the tropic syndrome as a catalyst for RADIANT ARCHITECTURE / in the 1960s a comet of creativity flared.
    2. Eugene Ray
    3. >for a brief moment< +NEW ORLEANS AS CATALYST+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >IT WAS SO GOOD TO RECIEVE AN E-MAIL FROM JOHN MESSINA. >my friend and former student at la. state univ. arch. school in ( 1965 / 1966 ) >john is a professor of architecture at the univ. of arizona in tuscon with a deep commitment to historical/vernacular arch. >HE IS ALSO A TALENTED PHOTO- GRAPHER WITH A NEW BOOK (environ and people) >ON THE STATE OF SONORA IN NORTHERN MEXICO. +RADIANT TROPIC SYNDROME+ >i have a fond place in my heart for (WARM/ORGANIC/AESTHETIC) >john and his wife tania who were in new orleans when i created a (CLOSE, EMPATHETIC) >series of environments that.... >WERE BASED ON RADIANT COLOR, LIGHT & ENERGY THAT WERE THE (synergetic envirinments) >BASIS FOR 1 OF THE 7 COURSES I TAUGHT AT SAN DIEGO STATE. +3 RADIANT ENVIRONMENTS+ >to see 1 of the projects i designed and built in the vieux carre during those >THE JAZZ WORKSHOP< >late 1960s consult the dixie roto. of the times picayune 6/29/69. also: google.... >EUGENE RAY / EARL TURBINTON / THE JAZZ WORKSHOP >( earl turbinton and his brother wilson (willie tee) were the brillient n.o. jazz musicians that i designed the jazz workshop for during my grad. years at tulane university) >SADLY THEY DIED A MONTH APART IN SEPTEMBER OF 2007 >BROKEN HEARTED FROM KATRINA . ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >at age 76 i survive, somehow, to recall those wonderfull years in new orleans (1967-1969) >WHEN I BUILT 2 OTHER SYNERGETIC RADIANT ARCHITECTURE ENVIRONS. (basis for my work in california) >EXHIBETED LATER IN PARIS AT THE +PARIS BIENNALE OF 1985+ >AND IN TOKYO THAT YEAR IN THE (4 page overview publicat.) >ARCHITECTURAL JOURNAL >A+U< >note: this work also became the basis for the french government inviting (N.E. OF MAGNY FOUCHARD) >my publication/membeship in a (1986) >international arch./energy >committee/univ of nancy. +EARLY RADIANT PROTOTYPES+ (pre-jazz workshop) >1) EXPLORERS GIFT SHOP on chartres street for the traylor brothers. (this first in about 1966 i was still living mainly in san souci forest) >2) TRAYLOR APARTMENT constructed behind the explorers gift shop in the former "slave quarter." it was published in the >AMERICAN HOME MAGAZINE ( 1970 ) >(john messina took the wonderful photos.) TROPIQUE/MAGIQUE/METAPHYSIQUE ( the fuel of a life's passion) >IN SEPTEMBER 1966 i had opened my office/studio in the new orleans >GARDEN DISTRICT/2ND STREET (john and tania helped me restore order in a former >private school room) +FRENCH TROPIC SYNDROME+ >(only a few blocks from our saulet >ancestors plantation house) +HOUSE IN ORANGE STREET+ >google my name and the above for a very gothic experience that john, (URBAN JUNGLE RUIN) >tania and i had very close to the +SAULET PLANTATION HOUSE+ >second street studio< >IT WAS HERE THAT I MADE DRAWINGS FOR HURRICANE RESISTANT HOUSING (tilt up conc. slab const.) >FOR NEW ORLEANS 9TH WARD WHICH IF ADOPTED WOULD HAVE SURVIVED >THE DEVASTATION OF KATRINA. >no encouragement caused my move to california and a wondrful life >WITH RADIANT ARCHITECTURE. plus >recently discovered..... 1) GENETIC MEMORY and 2) REMOTE VIEWING gene ray, san diego, california

    02/22/2009 11:25:09
    1. [DEGRUY] FYI - Important Site
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    3. This just came in on another of my lists... and I'm sharing with you... R Seems my messages are not coming through. One last try... Perhaps many of you are aware of this web site, but I discovered it quite by accident yesterday. The site is called Internet Archives and is available at: <http://www.archive.org/details/texts> This will lead you to over 1,000,000 books that are on line in their entirety. After getting to this site, click on American Libraries, Canadian Libraries etc. I pulled up Allen County Public Library under American Libraries and found nearly five thousand genealogical books from their collection. If you know the title it can be found alphabetically. I have not found a way to search a surname before pulling up the book. But it is not difficult to scan down the texts, click on the title and then the blinking book. Choose titles from an area where your ancestors are from and then search the book for the name. Sounds cumbersome, it is not. If you have a high speed connection it goes very fast. It is possible to print just the pages you want by downloading to a PDF format. Just follow the clues. Lyn Hargreave

    02/22/2009 05:35:44
    1. [DEGRUY] IMPORTANT SHROUD NEWS w/ thanks to my son +DEREK A. RAY SHROUD TIME CORROBERATION by dating of roman eye wt. coins and dating of shroud based icon
    2. Eugene Ray
    3. +"THE SHROUD OF TURIN+ +an adventure of discovery"+ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >by mary and alan whanger >was a father's day gift to me by +MY SON DEREK A. RAY+ >THIS BOOK IS PROVIDING PROFOUND INFORMATION ABOUT THE HOLY SHROUD THAT CONFIRMS THE (decharney,devirgy owners >many others supporting) >+DEVOTION OF ALL THOSE deGRUY+ +RELATED FAMILIES IN FRANCE+. >AND CORROBERATES THE SHROUD +AGE AS OF THE DEATH OF CHRIST+. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >alan and mary whanger have made a detailed examination of the evidence >FOUND BY SCIENTIFIC STUDY< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >the shroud was first shown at the LIREY CHAPEL IN 1357 >close to the degruy chateau at >MAGNY FOUCHARD >after it was moved to the SAINT HIPPOLYTE CHAPEL de laroche/decharney- deVIRGY/deGRUYERE) >grand daughter< >in the burgundy town of +MONTIGNY-MONTFORT+ >IT WAS TRADED TO THE SAVOY FAMILY RELATED TO DEVERGY/DECHARNEY AND TO OUR DEGRUYERE >IN THE YEAR, 1434 >note: we shall visit montigny-montfort (REMEMBER DUMONT) >in september which is in a very +MAGDELINE CHRISTIAN+ +PILGRIMAGE REGION+. >SHROUD SCIENTIFIC ANALYSIS REVEALS the crucified man was 30 to 35 years (+JESUS OF NAZARETH+ +SIMILARITY+) >old, 5ft. 11 inches tall and weighed approximately 170 pounds.... +ENHANCED SHROUD PHOTOGRAPHY+ >reveals the scourging in accurate detail (TORTURE BY INSTRUMENT.. >FLAGRUM TAXOLATUM) >corroborating historical accounts. (the roman scourgers avoided >the heart to preserve life) >ENLARGED PHOTOGRAPHIC DETAIL >REVEALS ROMAN COINS PLACED (to close the lids) >OVER THE EYES THAT ARE FROM (checked by coin experts) >THE CORRECT PERIOD WHICH CORROBORATES THE TIME (amazing photos) >AS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEATH OF JESUS CHRIST. +PANTOCRATOR ICON+ >additional dating evidence is provided by a painting (based on the shroud) of a portrait of christ found in >SAINT CATHERINE'S MONESTARY IN THE SINAI PENINSULA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +POLARISED IMAGE OVERLAYS+ >this icon from the year 550 matches the face on the shroud as studied +IN GREAT SCIENTIFIC DETAIL+ (same anotomical measure) +CORONA DISCHARGE+ >it is now concluded that the amazing image on the shroud was created > by a physical burst of energy known as"corona discharge" >THE EYE COINS ARE DISCERNABLE (astounding detail) >AFTER 25T. MAGNIFICATION. >comparison with hundreds of icons reveals only the pantocrator to >match the holy shroud image. >ONE CAN UNDERSTAND THE SHROUD DEVOTION OF THE (champagne/burgundy and gruyere/savoy) +deGRUY RELATED FAMILIES+. gene ray, san diego, california

    02/21/2009 12:40:24
    1. [DEGRUY] TULANE SEMINAR POTENTIALS : march 24/ appeal for aid to profs. cizek, meneray, edwards, messina and staub sharing information / FRENCH JUNGLE PLANTATIONS : focus on early 18C plaquemine p. indigo plantations, landgrants & concessions (esp, indian
    2. Eugene Ray
    3. PROF. EUGENE CIZEK, tulane univ. PROF JAY EDWARDS, la. state univ. PROF. WILLIAM MENERAY, tulane niv. PROF. JOHN MESSINA, u. of arizona PROF. PAT STAUB, la state univ., ret. DEAR GENE, JAY, BILL, JOHN & PAT, >i am writing to seek your aid in researching and discussing... +FRENCH JUNGLE PLANTATIONS+ louisiana 18C. indigo plantations, >CHOUACHAS CONCESSION< >& crown land grants of the early >PLAQUEMINE PARISH TYPE< >with a special focus on the +INDIAN MOUND+ +PROTOTYPE+ >i believe this is a subject that all of you have an interest in and >MY deGRUY ANCESTORS OWNED AN INDIAN MOUND PROTOTYPE at crown point in the 18th C. >PROBABLY SIMILAR TO MAGNOLIA< (am seeking information) >MOUND AT BATON ROUGE< +MARCH 24. 2009+ >may i suggest a 9am. starting time either in the tulane architecture school or special collections library where bill meneray provided space 2 yrs. ago. (1st phase of discussions) >JOHN LAWRENCE AT HNOC SHALL HOST OUR CAVAROC HOUSE (charles dakin archt.) >SEMINAR ON MARCH 13th 9AM >and we invite your +PARTICIPATION+. >marianne and i will have just rturned from the french west indies, santo domingo and jamaica with data >THAT MAY BE HELPFUL<. >I BELIEVE ALL OF YOU WILL AGREE OF THE GREAT VALUE OF THIS +FRENCH JUNGLE ARCHTYPE+ >i would like also to focus on the drawings by dumont demontigny of the >CHOUACHAS CONCESSION< >for more information google :.... (google.com) >EUGENE RAY/CHOUACHAS CONCESSION (several messages written in 2007) (we go to montigny, france in sept. seeking traces of this >most interesting persona) >LAST BUT NOT LEAST IF YOU HAVE INFO. ON MASONIC INFLUENCE IN LA. ARCH. I HAVE MUCH >I N T E R E S T<. +ROUND BUILDINGS AND+ +GENETIC MEMORY+ >(the degruy ancestors in the french champagne were deeply involved in templar activities which in my >VIEW INFLUENCED THEIR DESIGN OF THE ROUND SUGAR MILL ACROSS RIVER FROM NAPOLEON AVE. >this only round sugar mill was (NEW ORLEANS "WONDER") >documented by c.c. robin and the latrobes, father and son. >all are invited< >STUDENTS MAY BE HELPFUL IN RESEARCH ON THESE TOPICS +ALL DATA VALUABLE+. >many thanks for your cooperation and participation i look forward >TO ANY SUGGESTIONS<. ALL BEST gene eugene ray archt., prof. emeritus s.d.s.u. tulane/l.s.u. alum., former faculty

    02/20/2009 10:12:55
    1. [DEGRUY] Anatole Francis Richard, Jr. - Obit
    2. RICHARD Mr. Anatole Francis Richard, Jr. departed this life on Saturday, July 26, 2003 at Pendleton Memorial Methodist Hospital at 12:56 a.m. Son of the late Anatole and Leonora Richard. Beloved husband of the late Rita Marie DeGruy Richard. Loving father of Phyilis Richard Cureau, George Richard, Leon D. Richard, Sharbel Richard and Mario Richard. Brother of Doris Simpkins, Joycelyn McCaskil and Leon Richard. Grandfather of 9 grandchildren and 5 great-grandchildren. Brother in-law of Francis Degruy. Nephew of Vivian Jacob and Mildred Decuir. Father-in-law of Barbara, Veva, Lucille and Cynthia Richard and Charles Cureau. Devoted companion of Miss Rita Barre'. Also survived by a host of nieces, nephews, cousins, other relatives and friends. Relatives and friends of the family are invited to attend the Mass of Christian Burial from Saint Gabriel the Archangel Catholic Church, 4700 Pineda Street (corner of Louisa St.) on Thursday July 31, 2003 at 10:30 a.m. Msgr. Douglas A. Doussan-celebrant. Vistiation begins at the Church at 9:00 a.m. Boissierfe-Labat Family Funeral Services, 1703 N. Claiborne Ave. Interment Saint Louis II Cemetery. **** Anatole Francis Richard, Jr., a retired postal clerk and city inspector, died Saturday at Pendleton Memorial Methodist Hospital. He was 84. Mr. Richard was a lifelong resident of New Orleans. He was a Navy veteran. New Orleans Public Library Times Picayune Newspaper New Orleans, La. July 30, 2003; B4, c3 and c5 Helen Kendrick

    02/19/2009 10:29:47
    1. [DEGRUY] Rita M. Richard - Obit
    2. RICHARD Rita M. Richard on Tuesday April 6, 1993 at 2:30 o'clock A.M. Beloved wife of Anatole F. Richard, Jr. Mother of Phyilis Ann Cureau of San Antonio, Tx., George Dennis, Leon David, Sharbel Anatole and Mario Michael Richard. Daughter of the late George and Olivia De Gruy. Sister of Emmanuel De Gruy, Georgiana Humphrey, Louisa Parker, Francis P. De Gruy and the late George White, Edwin C. DeGruy, Ethel Honore, Estelle, Estelle Remy, Henry De Gruy and Marguerite Humphrey. Also survived by 9 grandchildren; 1 great-grandchild and a host of in-laws, nieces, nephews, other relatives and friends. Relatives and friends of the family, also priest and parishioners of St. Gabriel the Archangel Catholic Church are invited to attend the funeral liturgy at St. Gabriel the Archangel Catholic Church, 5029 Louisa Dr. on Thursday, April 8, 1993 at 10 o'clock a.m. No Wake. Visitation 9 o'clock a.m. in church. Charbonnet-Labat. Interment St. Louis number 2. New Orleans Public Library Times Picayune Newspaper New Orleans, La. April 8, 1993; pB5, c6

    02/19/2009 10:10:57
    1. [DEGRUY] Louise DeGruy Parker - Obit
    2. PARKER Louise DeGruy Parker on Tuesday, December 21, 1993 at 3:49 a.m. at United Medical Center. Wife of the George Parker. Daughter of the late George and Olivia DeGruy. Sister of Georgiana D. Humprey, Emanuel and Francis DeGruy and the late Ethel Honore, Rita Richard, Estelle Remy and Marguerite Humprey. Also survived by a host of nieces, nephews, in-laws, other relatives and friends. Relatives and friends of the family are invited to attend the Funeral Services and Mass of Christian Burial at Our Lady Star of The Sea Catholic Church, 1835 St. Roch Ave. on Monday, Visitation on Monday, December 27, 1993 at Our Lady Star of The Sea Catholic Church from 9 a.m.until 10:00 a.m. Boissiere-Arceneaux-Labat Funeral Home, 1703 N. Claiborne Ave. Interment in St. Louis No. 2 Cemetery. New Orleans Public Library Times Picayune Newspaper New Orleans, La. December 26, 1993, B5, c4 Helen Kendrick

    02/19/2009 09:57:07
    1. [DEGRUY] Darrell John DeGruy - Obit
    2. DeGRUY Darrell John DeGruy, Sr. on Monday, May 11, 1992 at 4:15 o'clock AM. Beloved son of the late Henry G. and Marguerite Ralph DeGruy. Father of Michelle DeGruy Majeed, Darrell J. DeGruy, Jr., Darren and Dania Burkes. Brother of Henry, Larry, Norwood, Linda, Diane, Elaine, Russell, Perry and Cherly DeGruy. Father-in-law of Saleem Majeed, Deiedre Cummings France and Pauline Johnson. Also survived by four grandchildren, a host of aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, cousins, and friends. Relatives and friends of the family, also priest and parishoners of St. Leo the Great Catholic Church. Members of N. O. Masjid of Al-isiam and Masjid Dur-Rahim. Employees of Rug and Carpet Center and Southern Baptist Hospital are invited to attend the Funeral. Liturgy at St. Leo the Great Catholic Church, 2916 Paris Ave. on Friday, May 15, 1992 at 12:00 o'clock noon. Visitation 10:30 o'clock AM in Church. Interment St. Louis Cemetery No. 2. NO WAKE. New Orleans Public Library Times Picayune Newspaper New Orleans, La. May 14, 1992, B5, C4 Helen Kendrick

    02/19/2009 09:44:23
    1. [DEGRUY] Marian Woods DeGruy Obit
    2. MARIAN WOODS DeGRUY Marian Woods DeGruy, a homemaker, died Sunday at Lakeland Medical Center. She was 75. Mrs. DeGruy was a lifelong resident of New Orleans. She was a parishioner of Epiphany Catholic Church. Survivors include her husband, Francis DeGruy, Sr.; two sons, Gerard and Francis DeGruy, Jr.; a daughter Allison White; A sister, Velma LaFonta; six grandchildren; and four great-grandchildren. A Mass will be said at 11 a.m. at Epiphany Catholic Church, 1949 Duels St. Visitation will begin at 9 a.m. Boissiere-Labat Family Funeral Services is in charge of arrangements. Burial will be in St. Louis Cemetery No. 2. New Orleans Public Library Times Picayune Newspaper New Orleans, Louisiana August 25, 1988; Bc 4 Helen Kendrick

    02/19/2009 09:33:45
    1. [DEGRUY] Edwin Degruy - obit 1967
    2. DE GRUY-On Friday, August 25, 1967, at 11:20 o'clock p.m., EDWIN (CRACK) DEGRUY, husband of Mrs. Gertrude DeGruy, son of the late Olivia and George DeGruy, brother of George White, Emanuel DeGruy, Henry G. DeGruy, Francis P. DeGruy, Margaret D. Humphrey, Georgiana D. Humphrey, Louise H. Parker of Los Angeles, Calif., Estelle D. Remy, Rita D. Richard and the late Ethel D. Honare; also survived by a host of nieces, nephews and other relatives. Relatives and friends of the family, also officers and members of Local No. 93 of Plasterers Union and employes of Haspel Brothers, are invited to attend the funeral. Services from Mrs. Emile J. Labat, Jr.-George Llopis Mortuary, 1703 North Claiborne Avenue on Wednesday, August 30, 1967 at 9 o'clock a. m. Religious services at the mortuary. Wake and recitation of the Rosary on Tuesday, August 29, 1967 at 8 o'clock p.m. Interment St. Louis No. 2 Cemetery. New Orleans Public Library Times Picayune Newspaper August 29, 1967, p2, c5

    02/19/2009 09:25:32
    1. [DEGRUY] ANOSR - Volume 19- 1830-1831; Part 1
    2. Archdiocese of New Orleans Sacramental Records Volume 19 - 1830-1831 Page 100 DEGRUYS [@DEGRUYSE] (see VERLOIN DEGRUY) Charles (Jean Baptiste and Melanie GODIN), b. Apr. 15, 1830, bn. Apr. 28, 1829, pgp. [o] VERLOIN DEGRUYSE and Marie OFRERE, mgp. Paul GODIN and Felicite LEPINE, s. Thomas BONNET and Adelline GODIN Saint Louis Cathedral, B40, 150 Marie Francoise (Arthemise), b. Nov. 1, 1831, bn. Feb. 7, 1831, s. Francois HERBERT and Marie Francoise [o] Saint Louis Cathedral, B42, 32 ------------ Page 125 DUFOUCHAR DEGRUY (see LAYSSARD) Alphonse Jacques (Etienne Bernard and Marie Azelie BACHEMAIN [both] residents of this parish), b. May 30, 1831, bn. Mar. 27, 1830, pgp. Antoine DUFOUCHAR DEGRUY, dec. and Henriette LAYSSARD, dec., mgp. Jacques BACHEMAIN and Henriette LAYSSARD, dec. s. Jacques BACHEMAIN, fils, and Marie Marcelite DUFOUCHAR DEGRUY, Widow GAR[UN/NU]CHAUD Saint Louis Cathedral, B40, 258 DUFOUCHARD Ursule, ca. 60 yr., i. Oct. 12, 1831, d. [o] Saint Louis Cathedral, B40, 258 -------------- Page 370 VERLOIN DEGRUY [@VERLOIN DEGRUYS] Francoise Elodie (Pierre and Azelie ST. AMANT), b. Feb. 1, 1831, bn. Mar. 8, 1830, pgp. Joseph VERLOIN DEGRUY and Marianne COUTURIER, mgp. Michel ST. AMANT and Francoise ZERINGUE, s. Pierre Uscelle DEGRUY and Adelle AUDIBERT Saint Louis Cathedral, B40, 225 Joseph, native of this city, widower of Mariane COUTURIER, ca. 78yr., i. Jan. 23, 1830, d. Jan. 22, 1830 Saint Louis Cathedral, F15, 104 Helen Kendrick

    02/19/2009 08:58:55
    1. Re: [DEGRUY] Bobe' Descloseaux - Bernoudy Marriage - 1762
    2. Eugene Ray
    3. VERY INTERESTING HELEN, >the date of 1762 suggests, it was the f a t h e r +CLAUDE BOBE desCLOSEAUX+ who was so close to our >ANTOINE JEAN BAPTISTE VALENTIN VERLOIN feGRUY, (born: 1719) >the long family list suggests it was A VERY ARISTOCRATIC WEDDING. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >chauvin, aubert and deville +CAME TO LOUISIANA+... >synchronicity< >AUBERT WAS MY 1ST CLIENT IN COVINGTON IN 1959. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >aubert insurance agency on boston street... shared w/ >the chamber of commerce THANKS MUCH... gene -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [DEGRUY] Bobe' Descloseaux - Bernoudy Marriage - 1762 Love's Legacy The Mobile Marriages Recorded in French, Transcribed, with Annotated Abstracts in English 1724-1726 Jacqueline Olivier Vidrine English Version - page 337 Mob.mb I:48a-2 July 19, 1762 One bann announced; dispenses with two. Jean Arnould Valentin Bobe' Descloseaux, native of Versailles, son of Jean Baptiste Claude Bobe' Descloseaux, former commissioner of the Navy, and Dame Delome. Francoise Elisabeth Bernoudy, daughter of Francois Cesar Bernoudy, formerly guardian of the king's storehouses and his prosecutor in this town, and Louise Marguerite Belzaguy. Witnesses signing: (Marie Claudine) Bernoudy Pechon, wife of Antoine Pechon; ( Catherine) Volant Gueltin, wife of Gueltin, daughter of Jean Gregoire Volant and Marthe Chauvin; De Bonnille, a brother of Barbe Ursule de Bonnille; (Jean Baptiste) Aubert; (Jean Baptiste) Roujot; (Pierre Annibal) Develle; (Jean Thibaule) Gueltin, officer in Karrer's Regiment, Fourth Company; [1] (Maurice)" Durand; (Francois?) Bernard; (Antoine) Pechon, "comte" perhaps added; Bernoudy, [2] a brother of Madame Anoine Pechon. [1] S.H.A.T., Vincennes, Xg 87, photocopies from Madame Margaret Audin, Paris, sent to Marie Jose' Godin, Paris, October 13, 1980; the materials were subsequently mailed to this writter by Mme. Godin on October 28, 1980. [2] Not Maurice; probably Francois. Helen Kendrick This is a "discussion" list. Individual messages cannot be assumed to be "fact." All data should be verified. Be Generous. Share Your Family Research. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/19/2009 08:57:54
    1. [DEGRUY] ANOSR - Volume 19 - Part 1
    2. Archdiocese of New Orleans Sacramental Records Volume 19 - 1830-1831 page 370 DEGRUYS[@DEGRUYSE] (see VERLOIN DEGRUY) Charles (Jean Baptiste and Melanie GODIN), b. Apr. 15, 1830, bn. Apr. 28, 1829, pgp. [o] VERLOIN DEGRUYSE and Marie OFRERE, mgp. Paul GODIN and Felicite LEPINE, s. Thomas BONNET and Adelline GODIN Saint Louis Cathedral, B40, p150 Marie Francoise (Arthemise) b. Nov. 1, 1831, bn. Feb. 7, 1831, s. Francois HERBERT and Marie Francoise [o] Saint Louis Cathedral, B42, p32

    02/19/2009 08:36:42
    1. [DEGRUY] Bobe' Descloseaux - Bernoudy Marriage - 1762
    2. Love's Legacy The Mobile Marriages Recorded in French, Transcribed, with Annotated Abstracts in English 1724-1726 Jacqueline Olivier Vidrine English Version - page 337 Mob.mb I:48a-2 July 19, 1762 One bann announced; dispenses with two. Jean Arnould Valentin Bobe' Descloseaux, native of Versailles, son of Jean Baptiste Claude Bobe' Descloseaux, former commissioner of the Navy, and Dame Delome. Francoise Elisabeth Bernoudy, daughter of Francois Cesar Bernoudy, formerly guardian of the king's storehouses and his prosecutor in this town, and Louise Marguerite Belzaguy. Witnesses signing: (Marie Claudine) Bernoudy Pechon, wife of Antoine Pechon; ( Catherine) Volant Gueltin, wife of Gueltin, daughter of Jean Gregoire Volant and Marthe Chauvin; De Bonnille, a brother of Barbe Ursule de Bonnille; (Jean Baptiste) Aubert; (Jean Baptiste) Roujot; (Pierre Annibal) Develle; (Jean Thibaule) Gueltin, officer in Karrer's Regiment, Fourth Company; [1] (Maurice)" Durand; (Francois?) Bernard; (Antoine) Pechon, "comte" perhaps added; Bernoudy, [2] a brother of Madame Anoine Pechon. [1] S.H.A.T., Vincennes, Xg 87, photocopies from Madame Margaret Audin, Paris, sent to Marie Jose' Godin, Paris, October 13, 1980; the materials were subsequently mailed to this writter by Mme. Godin on October 28, 1980. [2] Not Maurice; probably Francois. Helen Kendrick

    02/19/2009 08:15:52