Bob, a further experiment with using a "bold" line in red to outline the plot _was successful_. So this method did accomplish the purpose of drawing attention to the image against the black and white map lines. Marilyn

Bob, it is definitely the colored plot image that is flashing by. But, I agree that Steve's maps are the preferred maps. I have appreciated them immensely. This attempt was made because I have only one file of interest and had a county map on hand and so tried to place it. I am glad to have learned about its limitations. Marilyn > Marilyn, it may be coloring the background but the scanned image covers it > up. If you could get a color that was not opaque and trick the program to > put the color on top of the image, it might work for the background color. > For the price, get Steve's maps. I think you will like them. I have quite > a number of them. Pleased customer. Oh yes...get all the ones you think > you might need for the various areas you may research in the near future. > The bulk discounts are attractive.

Marilyn, it may be coloring the background but the scanned image covers it up. If you could get a color that was not opaque and trick the program to put the color on top of the image, it might work for the background color. For the price, get Steve's maps. I think you will like them. I have quite a number of them. Pleased customer. Oh yes...get all the ones you think you might need for the various areas you may research in the near future. The bulk discounts are attractive. Bob ----- Original Message ----- > Thank you Bob. The odd part about the color fill is that the colored > plot "flashes" by but does not stick. The "map" is a jpg image. I guess > I will need to get a good old DeedMapper map, as Steve calls them. >

Thank you Bob. The odd part about the color fill is that the colored plot "flashes" by but does not stick. The "map" is a jpg image. I guess I will need to get a good old DeedMapper map, as Steve calls them. Marilyn Symonds Houston, TX Bob Wilson wrote: > I am sure that the answer is that your "map" is treated as an image and the > only controls you have are those under View>Options>Images. The maps that > Direct Line sells are different than scanned images of maps that you can > create. They are vector line maps giving you the ability to change > background color and line color for the different types of maps. The deed > plotting works the same with either or both. I have not tried a scanned > image myself so someone that has will probably confirm this. The file types > for scanned images are bmp, jpg, and tif. The maps that Direct Line sells > are bmf. Look in the Help file under Maps:computer-compatible. > Bob Wilson > Wimberley, TX

I am sure that the answer is that your "map" is treated as an image and the only controls you have are those under View>Options>Images. The maps that Direct Line sells are different than scanned images of maps that you can create. They are vector line maps giving you the ability to change background color and line color for the different types of maps. The deed plotting works the same with either or both. I have not tried a scanned image myself so someone that has will probably confirm this. The file types for scanned images are bmp, jpg, and tif. The maps that Direct Line sells are bmf. Look in the Help file under Maps:computer-compatible. Bob Wilson Wimberley, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Symonds" <sysite@swbell.net> To: <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:52 AM Subject: [DMU] Question regarding fill color for plot > After mporting a county map, I am able to place the parcel, but I am > _unable_ to fill it with color. Nor am I able to change the line color. > There is only one map in this deed file. Is this option unavailable with > "imported" maps? > > Marilyn > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

After mporting a county map, I am able to place the parcel, but I am _unable_ to fill it with color. Nor am I able to change the line color. There is only one map in this deed file. Is this option unavailable with "imported" maps? Marilyn

Barry, Have you checked to see if there are new drivers for you printer? Jim Barrett Bedford, TX parino@flash.net Barrett <http://www.flash.net/~parino/barrett-family-dna-project.htm> Surname DNA Project Powell <http://www.flash.net/~parino/powell-surname-dna-project.htm> Surname DNA Project -----Original Message----- From: dadster3@juno.com [mailto:dadster3@juno.com] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 6:40 AM To: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [DMU] Re: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-D Digest V03 #49 Nancy, Thanks for the reply about the pagination problem . Unfortunately my printer properties does not have a "fit to page" option. Must be something the printer driver is not reading with DeedMapper since everything else prints just fine and has for years. The only other printer problem I've noticed is that MS Works Calender won't print at all. Printing is truncated before it ever gets into the que. Barry Clark Fredericksburg, VA ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Nancy, Thanks for the reply about the pagination problem . Unfortunately my printer properties does not have a "fit to page" option. Must be something the printer driver is not reading with DeedMapper since everything else prints just fine and has for years. The only other printer problem I've noticed is that MS Works Calender won't print at all. Printing is truncated before it ever gets into the que. Barry Clark Fredericksburg, VA

Barry, You might check to see if for your default settings on your printer you have "fit to page" set. I have sometimes found that that can cause your problem to happen. When you go to print from Deedmapper, if you can get to the Properties before it actually prints (I forget whether you can or not) to turn that off, it may help. Turning it off inside an application should not change the default settings for other apps. -Nancy Upshaw -----Original Message----- From: dadster3@juno.com [mailto:dadster3@juno.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 8:30 PM To: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [DMU] Re: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-D Digest V03 #47 Mr. Wilson, Thanks for the reply regarding the problem with DeedMapper pagination. I've had this printer for several years and have never had a problem like this. It prints everything from e-mail to a DOS version of Quicken flawlessly. There is nothing to adjust in DeedMapper, as far as I know, but I do think it is a software issue, not hardware. You didn't say what you were printing as a test. I was trying to print the line editor deed descriptions, not the plots. Haven't gotten to that yet. Anyway, I've worked around it by send 5 or so deeds to the printer individually. They que up and print just fine. I find that I prefer printing in small batches anyway. If there is a paper jamb or something it's easier to stop the print job and less wasteful. Thanks, Barry Clark Fredericksburg, VA ______________________________

Mr. Wilson, Thanks for the reply regarding the problem with DeedMapper pagination. I've had this printer for several years and have never had a problem like this. It prints everything from e-mail to a DOS version of Quicken flawlessly. There is nothing to adjust in DeedMapper, as far as I know, but I do think it is a software issue, not hardware. You didn't say what you were printing as a test. I was trying to print the line editor deed descriptions, not the plots. Haven't gotten to that yet. Anyway, I've worked around it by send 5 or so deeds to the printer individually. They que up and print just fine. I find that I prefer printing in small batches anyway. If there is a paper jamb or something it's easier to stop the print job and less wasteful. Thanks, Barry Clark Fredericksburg, VA

> You didn't say what you were printing as a test. I was trying to print > the line editor deed descriptions, not the plots. Haven't gotten to that > yet. > I was printing the text deeds under File > Print > Print Range - Items From 1 to 10 rather than 1 to 54. All 10 looked fine. I do not think this is a hardware problem at all. I am not sure what it is but it sounds like it is behaving like an improper printer driver. The only time I have seen that is when multiple printers are available. I have also seen improper printing happen when a parallel printer cable is too long. Whatever causes it, I am glad you have found an acceptable work around. Bob

> Deed texts do not paginate properly when printing. Even when "individual > pages" is checked, the top margin gets bigger & bigger with each succeeding > page. How do I fix this? This only happens with DeedMapper. > > I'm getting ready for a big research trip and the thought of having to > individually print several hundred deed texts is daunting. > > Barry Clark > Fredericksburg, VA Barry, I just tried it and it seems to work on my printer. I did not try to page each deed, but the space between each deed remained the same and the margins on the paper remained the same. Do you have the correct printer set up? I only printed 10 of 54 but everything held constant. I am using V3.0B25. Bob Wilson Wimberley, TX

-----Original Message----- From: dadster3@juno.com [mailto:dadster3@juno.com] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:16 AM To: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [DMU] Printing Deed Texts Deed texts do not paginate properly when printing. Even when "individual pages" is checked, the top margin gets bigger & bigger with each succeeding page. How do I fix this? This only happens with DeedMapper. I'm getting ready for a big research trip and the thought of having to individually print several hundred deed texts is daunting. Barry Clark Fredericksburg, VA ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Deed texts do not paginate properly when printing. Even when "individual pages" is checked, the top margin gets bigger & bigger with each succeeding page. How do I fix this? This only happens with DeedMapper. I'm getting ready for a big research trip and the thought of having to individually print several hundred deed texts is daunting. Barry Clark Fredericksburg, VA

At 02:32 PM 7/22/2003 -0500, you wrote: >If the new DeedMapper maps are intended to mesh with the existing maps >(also from DeedMapper), does the process of installing the new maps effect >an automatic joining? If not, can someone direct me to instructions for >installation of the new maps? Thanks much. > >Marilyn > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 DeedMapper does not offer automatic joining of maps. Joining maps is a tedious process. I assume you already have a DeedMapper map in a project and you wish to join a new map to the existing map. Locate the position of the maps on your screen by placing the mouse crusor on one of the corners of the map and left click the mouse. This should highlight the map and at the top of the screen the map number will be displayed. The map can then be moved by holding down the left mouse key. Then drag the map to the proper position on the adjoining map. The map may be locked. You can unlock the map by clicking edit and click lock. I suggest after you have positioned the maps in their proper location, lock all maps. Dale

Dale, I should have known that in this life, it would not be "automatic"! Thank you for the instructions - I am not now having to do this, but I wanted to know how to do it - just in case! Marilyn > > DeedMapper does not offer automatic joining of maps. Joining maps is a > tedious process. I assume you already have a DeedMapper map in a project > and you wish to join a new map to the existing map. Locate the position > of the maps on your screen by placing the mouse crusor on one of the > corners of the map and left click the mouse. This should highlight the > map and at the top of the screen the map number will be displayed. The > map can then be moved by holding down the left mouse key. Then drag the > map to the proper position on the adjoining map. The map may be locked. > You can unlock the map by clicking edit and click lock. I suggest after > you have positioned the maps in their proper location, lock all maps. > > Dale

If the new DeedMapper maps are intended to mesh with the existing maps (also from DeedMapper), does the process of installing the new maps effect an automatic joining? If not, can someone direct me to instructions for installation of the new maps? Thanks much. Marilyn

How interesting. Thanks for sharing that, Steve. JoLee At 09:29 AM 7/19/2003, you wrote: >I've just finished reading "Measuring America", by Andro Linklater, recently >published by Walker Books. Anyone who likes history and who is interested >in how the U.S. came to be surveyed will find this to be a great read, well >researched, and very informative. Linklater, who turns out to be a >Englishman who has spent a lot of time in the U.S., was fascinated by the >regularity of the public land one mile grid that he saw while flying cross >country, and wondered how it came to be. The book spends a lot of time on >the history of measurements and surveying, the English transition from the >feudal system to private land ownership, the difficulties faced by surveyors >in the wilds of America, and more. > >An interesting note for Virginia researchers: in some areas of Virginia the >surveys were "large", as if the surveyor used a longer chain than normal. >According to the book an early American surveying manual said the chain >should be 22 yards (the standard length) for open land, 24 yards for >woodland, and up to 32 yards in forest. It sounds strange to us today, but >a strongly entrenched idea of those times was that an acre's size (and sizes >of many other things) depended on how useful the land (or thing) was. > >Steve Broyles > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Jim, Glad for the reminder for me to post back to the DEED-USERS-GROUP about next week's workshop. In real life Michael John Neill is a mathematics instructor at Carl Sandburg College (a two-year community college) in Galesburg, Illinois. He is developing a mid-west to national reputation as a genealogy and technology speaker. During his college's spring break, he conducts genealogy programs/classes at the college sometimes in March of every year. He has his own web page, root dig something. You can find it by doing a web search under his name. It gives his list of topics and more about him and his own genealogy research. So far as the DEEDMAPPER workshop and the genealogy conference are concerned, the DEEDMAPPER class may have one or two seats left in it. If your are interested call the college first thing Monday morning. As of Wednesday the 16th there were 18 registered with two seats left. I had one e-mail this morning from an interested party. Not sure if anyone else had registered on Thursday for these seats are not. Lunch is included in the price. Not sure what will be for lunch yet, but the college food service manager assures me that it will be something from the college food service line and not just a salad sandwich and a bag of chips. Think he mentioned maybe catfish. He can also fix a veggies plate, etc for those on a special diet or if you don't eat meat. But we need to know ahead of time, at least early that morning for any special requests. There are plenty of seats left for the regular conference where Mr. Neill will be giving four additional sessions, Immigrants from Europe to the Midwest, WAR I and II Draft Records, and two on internet site use, the last one including all kinds of maps on and off line. We had 40 registered on Wednesday for the regular conference. Hopefully we will be getting more people this next week. It is a more than excellent conference for the price even if I did organize it myself along with another adjunct instructor at the college. College food service manager has promised some really excellent food this year, not the usual box lunch with soggy sandwich, chips, etc. type lunch that you get at a lot of conferences/seminars. Friday night will be extra nice with buffet and real cloth napkins and tablecloths in red, white and blue. Really a bargin for the regular conference of $120.00 and the computer software workshop of $55.00. If anyone is interested I can e-mail you a registration form in MSWORD. Would also like to have more information on the POWELL DNA Group mention in Jim's signature line. I am interested a William Powell and his wife, Amey _?_ you have a child death recorded in the St. Paul's Parish Register of Stafford County, Virginia, c. 1715. My Powell line daughters out when their daughter married Anthony Buckner Thomas as recorded in the same published register in 1755. The son-in-law dies as Anthony Buckner in Halifax County, Virginia, with a will in 1780 where he leaves his daughter Winney Edmunds a number of pounds of goose feathers. Winney Buckner had married John Edmunds/Edmonds/Edmons before 1776 when my ancestor, James, was born. The whole tribe of Edmonds, from Francis Edmunds and his wife, Rachel_?_, had all migrated to Wilkes County, Georgia, c. 1786. The LDS information on this William Powell and Amy _?_ has to be wrong or else William was a bigamist with a wife and family in two states at the same time. Vivian Cates, Rt. #2 Box 52-A, Alto, Texas 75925-9607 1-936-858-3801 -----Original Message----- From: Jim Barrett [mailto:parino@flash.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 7:10 PM To: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [DMU] LUFKIN TX 7/24/03 ALL-DAY DEEDMAPPER WORKSHOP - Michael John Neill Does anyone know anything about Michael John Neill? Jim Barrett Bedford, TX parino@flash.net Barrett Surname DNA Project Powell Surname DNA Project -----Original Message----- From: Vivian Cates [mailto:vtoole@ballistic.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:15 AM To: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [DMU] LUFKIN TX 7/24/03 ALL-DAY DEEDMAPPER WORKSHOP FYI,If you are not inteested just hit the delete button. Perhaps this workshop will be of interested to some people subscribed to this list. I Pre-conference Activity for the 7th Annual Angelina College Genealogy Conference Regular Genealogy conference is Friday and Saturday July 25-26, 2003 Registration fee of $120 includes five meals. Enrollment limit roughly 100 All Day DEEDMAPPER Workshop Thursday, July 24, 2003 Angelina College, Lufkin Texas 9 am to 4 pm with regular morning, lunch, and afternoon breaks. Presented by Michael John Neill of Carl Sandberg College, Galesburg, Illinois $55.00 registration fee includes lunch catered by college food service. Registration limited to 20 people. Hands on workshop in college computer lab. Registration was at 10 people 7/9/03 Seats are still available. For additional information and to register by mail or in person: Community Services Division Angelina College, 3500 South First Street, P.O. Box 1768, Lufkin, Texas 75902-1768 Phone 1-936-633=5206 College offices are closed on Friday. Days Inn is the headquarters motel at $49.00 per night plus 13% motel/hotel tax In order to keep having this conference we need all the help we can get getting out the publicity so that we have a good turnout. College budget has been cut like a lot of other places. This is the only public college west of the Mississippi currently sponsoring a genealogy conference with outside speakers. Please pass the word along to all of your genealogy friends whom you think might want to attend. At the door parking. All airconditioned buildings and handicapped accessible and minimum walking. Vivian Cates, Rt. #2 Box 52-A, Alto, Texas 75925-9607 1-936-858-3801 http://www.ballistic.com/~vcates adjunct instructor-genealogy, conference publicity coordinator ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I've just finished reading "Measuring America", by Andro Linklater, recently published by Walker Books. Anyone who likes history and who is interested in how the U.S. came to be surveyed will find this to be a great read, well researched, and very informative. Linklater, who turns out to be a Englishman who has spent a lot of time in the U.S., was fascinated by the regularity of the public land one mile grid that he saw while flying cross country, and wondered how it came to be. The book spends a lot of time on the history of measurements and surveying, the English transition from the feudal system to private land ownership, the difficulties faced by surveyors in the wilds of America, and more. An interesting note for Virginia researchers: in some areas of Virginia the surveys were "large", as if the surveyor used a longer chain than normal. According to the book an early American surveying manual said the chain should be 22 yards (the standard length) for open land, 24 yards for woodland, and up to 32 yards in forest. It sounds strange to us today, but a strongly entrenched idea of those times was that an acre's size (and sizes of many other things) depended on how useful the land (or thing) was. Steve Broyles