The only way I have ever been able to locate property in metes & bounds states is to track the property from owner to owner. When I'm at the current owner I ask the Property Tax Assessors' office where the property is located on the present platt of the county. You can use the deed indexes to track owner to owner. As for the court records - if you mean the land records see above. If you mean other types of records it depends on what type of record you are interested in. Things like land records, marriages, wills, probate, etc., etc., usually have indexes and you should consult those first. Linda homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ TulsaCoOK: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Towler" <annettedt@mn.astound.net> To: <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 8:25 PM Subject: RE: [DMU] Thanks to all of you who helped | Does anyone have any clues as to how to transfer KY meets and bounds | records to actual finding the property in the county? Campbell Co., KY | | I know by census records etcs it is by Cold Spring, Campbell Co., KY but | how do I translate this to finding the court records. Any hints would | be great. Thank you | | Annette DeCourcy Towler | Home page for DeCourcy & Pack | http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~decourcy/ | Web page for St. Cloud Area Genealogists, Inc. | http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnscag/SCAG/index.htm | Family Researching in SE KY PACK, CHANDLER, WHEELER, | FAIRCHILD,LeMASTERS, RAMEY,MILLER/MILAM/MILLAM, JAYNE, McSPADDEN | Researching in NE KY DeCOURCY, ELLIS, BALL, MAINS, LEWIS, EVANS, | SPILMAN, | HUTCHINS, HAMILTON | Researching in PA, IL WESSLING, SOMERS, SCHULER, PLAGGEE | | | | I've stopped 26 spam messages. You can too! | One month FREE spam protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/spamnetsig/ | | I've stopped 201 spam messages. You can too! | One month FREE spam protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/spamnetsig/ | | | -----Original Message----- | From: Linda Haas Davenport [mailto:lhaasdav@cox.net] | Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 4:44 PM | To: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com | Subject: [DMU] Thanks to all of you who helped | | | I presented my seminar on land records and the examples were | a great hit with the audience. To all of you who so kindly shared your | metes & bounds plots with me I wish to share the many Thank You's I | received after the presentation. | | Thanks to all of you. | | Linda | homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas | MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ | TulsaCoOK: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa2 | | | | | | ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== | Send all messages and replies to <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com>. | | ============================== | Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration | Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid= 1237 | | | ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== | Send all messages and replies to <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com>. | | ============================== | Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration | Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid= 1237 | |

Does anyone have any clues as to how to transfer KY meets and bounds records to actual finding the property in the county? Campbell Co., KY I know by census records etcs it is by Cold Spring, Campbell Co., KY but how do I translate this to finding the court records. Any hints would be great. Thank you Annette DeCourcy Towler Home page for DeCourcy & Pack http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~decourcy/ Web page for St. Cloud Area Genealogists, Inc. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnscag/SCAG/index.htm Family Researching in SE KY PACK, CHANDLER, WHEELER, FAIRCHILD,LeMASTERS, RAMEY,MILLER/MILAM/MILLAM, JAYNE, McSPADDEN Researching in NE KY DeCOURCY, ELLIS, BALL, MAINS, LEWIS, EVANS, SPILMAN, HUTCHINS, HAMILTON Researching in PA, IL WESSLING, SOMERS, SCHULER, PLAGGEE I've stopped 26 spam messages. You can too! One month FREE spam protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/spamnetsig/ I've stopped 201 spam messages. You can too! One month FREE spam protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/spamnetsig/ -----Original Message----- From: Linda Haas Davenport [mailto:lhaasdav@cox.net] Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 4:44 PM To: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [DMU] Thanks to all of you who helped I presented my seminar on land records and the examples were a great hit with the audience. To all of you who so kindly shared your metes & bounds plots with me I wish to share the many Thank You's I received after the presentation. Thanks to all of you. Linda homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ TulsaCoOK: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa2 ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== Send all messages and replies to <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com>. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I presented my seminar on land records and the examples were a great hit with the audience. To all of you who so kindly shared your metes & bounds plots with me I wish to share the many Thank You's I received after the presentation. Thanks to all of you. Linda homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ TulsaCoOK: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa2

This isn't Mike but I can answer the question. The MD Dept of Assessment & Taxation's web page is http://sdatcert3.resiusa.org/rp_rewrite/ You have to know something about the property (e.g., address or map & parcel) in addition to the county. Once you have the proper account on screen, the "VIEW MAP" option is in the upper right hand corner [red letters on yellow background]. Once the map is displayed, right-click with your mouse on the map and "Save Picture As" ... note the location on your hard drive or navigate to the location desired. If you use WINDOWS XP. it includes the tools to rotate JPG formatted files. Otherwise use a program like MS Picture It (usually free on the PC) or Adobe Photoshop Elements, et al. Hope that helps. Doug Washburn At 03:50 PM 2/18/2004, you wrote: >Mike Pierce, > >Please say more about downloading Md tax maps. I've just googled "tax maps >maryland". Among many pages of url's, I have not yet found one offering >downloads of maps. > >Second question: how do you rotate the image? > >T.T. Bannister >Dept. of Biology >Univ. of Rochester >Rochester, NY 14627-0211 >Tel 585-275-8716 >Fax 585-275-2070 >======================= > > >==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== >Send all messages and replies to <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com>. > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Mike Pierce, Please say more about downloading Md tax maps. I've just googled "tax maps maryland". Among many pages of url's, I have not yet found one offering downloads of maps. Second question: how do you rotate the image? T.T. Bannister Dept. of Biology Univ. of Rochester Rochester, NY 14627-0211 Tel 585-275-8716 Fax 585-275-2070 =======================

Charlotte. In Mayland, one can download copies of the tax map, which shows all current property boundaries. These are available in every state, I'm sure, although sometimes only in paper copies at the Court House. Through some work, I've managed to scale and rotate them correctly and I use them as the image in DeedMapper. These are particularly useful, since many property lines have not changed since the 1600's. When I've mapped an old deed, I often find its location by fitting it into the current tax map, much like a child's puzzle where there are carved out shapes on a board. Please write me if you want to hear more about this, including some samples. Mike Pierce

Greetings, I'm looking for software to make plots from Deeds, Surveys, etc. I was glad to find a Users forum for DEED-MAPPER. Can anyone offer some words about their experiences or some direction to articles or reviews about DEED-MAPPER. I'm looking toward plots of multiple land-owners that can be saved in a format for eventual inclusion in "Word" documents. Many Thanks, Hank Stuebing

Hank, I really liked it for what little time I was able to use it. <G> I found it very useful for plotting out the deed and then saving that in my genealogy software (TMG). So yes, you could use it in Word. It is fairly easy to use, it just that I don't have a lot of time to do both data entry and cleanup and plot deeds right now. Someday I hope to do all the deeds I have entered so I can see what the land looked like and hope to be able to plot that on a map, but I haven't gotten into that much yet. Teresa Ghee Elliott Any information I give that you can't find in your version of TMG 5.1 is probably due to customization on my part. For Rutherford County TN Cemeteries www.Rutherfordcemeteries.home-page.org For TMG sentences <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rutherfordcemetery/TMG.html>   -----Original Message----- From: Hank Stuebing [mailto:stuebing@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 3:04 PM To: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [DMU] Seeking advice Greetings, I'm looking for software to make plots from Deeds, Surveys, etc. I was glad to find a Users forum for DEED-MAPPER. Can anyone offer some words about their experiences or some direction to articles or reviews about DEED-MAPPER. I'm looking toward plots of multiple land-owners that can be saved in a format for eventual inclusion in "Word" documents. Many Thanks, Hank Stuebing ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== To un-subscribe from DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L (in MAIL mode), send a message to <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L-request@rootsweb.com> with just the word "unsubscribe" (no quotes)in the text and turn off your signature. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I will be giving a presentation on Deedmapper to a group of genealogists and was wondering if anyone has added in a map other then the ones available from deedmapper. I would like to know how you went about it and what were some of its good points and bad points. I have added in scanned maps but was wondering particularly about digital maps from topographic or the usgs. Also has anyone tried using 7.5 minute map images instead of the 15 minute available from deedmapper. Thank you for any assistance you can provide. Charlotte cain

Is there a new version out now. If so I would like to have it. Thanks John Lawrence ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Broyles" <steve.broyles@comcast.net> To: <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [DMU] Annotation color not working > Margaret, > > The symptoms sound like something that might be fixed by the latest build. > Please > send us your address via separate email to deeds@rcn.com. > > Steve Broyles > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret Waters" <mg44wat@comcast.net> > To: <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 3:02 PM > Subject: [DMU] Annotation color not working > > > > I am running into a very frustrating problem with my Deedmapper program > and > > was wondering if anyone on the list had any suggestions.... > > > > I've been happily using Deedmapper since 1999 through several computers > and > > various operating systems. All was going well on my newest computer > (using > > Windows 2000 Professional) until yesterday. My map annotations started > > showing up in an awful green color and nothing I have been able to try has > > returned them to a black print. I can still change road and stream colors > > as I wish but even when I set the annotation color to black on the Maps > tab > > of the View Options screen, I still get green annotations. > > > > Suggestions anyone???? > > > > Thanks, > > Margaret > > > > > > > > ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== > > Send all messages and replies to <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com>. > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== > Send all messages and replies to <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com>. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Margaret, The symptoms sound like something that might be fixed by the latest build. Please send us your address via separate email to deeds@rcn.com. Steve Broyles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Waters" <mg44wat@comcast.net> To: <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 3:02 PM Subject: [DMU] Annotation color not working > I am running into a very frustrating problem with my Deedmapper program and > was wondering if anyone on the list had any suggestions.... > > I've been happily using Deedmapper since 1999 through several computers and > various operating systems. All was going well on my newest computer (using > Windows 2000 Professional) until yesterday. My map annotations started > showing up in an awful green color and nothing I have been able to try has > returned them to a black print. I can still change road and stream colors > as I wish but even when I set the annotation color to black on the Maps tab > of the View Options screen, I still get green annotations. > > Suggestions anyone???? > > Thanks, > Margaret > > > > ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== > Send all messages and replies to <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com>. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

I've been using DM since the early DOS days (early 1990s), and at one time Steve Broyles gave me a back door entry to patch the colors. Hopefully he will respond to your message here. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Waters" <mg44wat@comcast.net> To: <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 3:02 PM Subject: [DMU] Annotation color not working > I am running into a very frustrating problem with my Deedmapper program and > was wondering if anyone on the list had any suggestions.... > > I've been happily using Deedmapper since 1999 through several computers and > various operating systems. All was going well on my newest computer (using > Windows 2000 Professional) until yesterday. My map annotations started > showing up in an awful green color and nothing I have been able to try has > returned them to a black print. I can still change road and stream colors > as I wish but even when I set the annotation color to black on the Maps tab > of the View Options screen, I still get green annotations. > > Suggestions anyone???? > > Thanks, > Margaret > > > > ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== > Send all messages and replies to <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com>. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

I am running into a very frustrating problem with my Deedmapper program and was wondering if anyone on the list had any suggestions.... I've been happily using Deedmapper since 1999 through several computers and various operating systems. All was going well on my newest computer (using Windows 2000 Professional) until yesterday. My map annotations started showing up in an awful green color and nothing I have been able to try has returned them to a black print. I can still change road and stream colors as I wish but even when I set the annotation color to black on the Maps tab of the View Options screen, I still get green annotations. Suggestions anyone???? Thanks, Margaret

Thanks to all who helped me on Virginia Maps. I finally got through to Mr. Scheel. He has no Culpeper maps but the library there has them for $5.20. IT IS WONDERFUL!! I was able to get Fauquier map from Willow Bend Books. Jim Dempsey

Thanks so much to everyone who was kind enough to offer help with my metes & bounds images. I have some really great ones now and I know my audience will enjoy them thanks to your help. You're a great bunch of folks! Linda homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ TulsaCoOK: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa2

Seeking to contact Ruth Foreman re Slye surname. E-mails send to address on Deedmappers site bounce. Address given is ruth.foreman@us.coopers.com Thank you.

I'm doing a presentation on land records for a genealogy society and I'm in need of an image (graphic) to use on a PPS presentation as an example of how a piece of property would look as described by metes & bounds. I have spent two days looking for my deedmapper disk and have yet to locate it so I can't set one up myself. Would anyone be willing to help me out? Linda homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ TulsaCoOK: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa2

If the deed itself does not close the plot will not either. When entering the calls if all of the descriptions are complete Deed mapper will plot it exactly as written. In some deeds the last call is "following the meanders of the river to the beginning". This is represented by lm ; ; meanders to beginning end and Deedmapper will close the plot. However, most deeds particularly before 1800 are rather loose in their directions. Compass directions may easily be a couple of degrees off and the pole calls do not account for any change in elevation. [200poles going up and down a hill covers less area then 200 poles on flat land] Then there is always the errors of the surveyor, the clerk transcribing, and the difficulty of measuring how far that river really meanders. If you are concerned, try plotting the deeds of the neighbors and seeing if there is a error noticable in the deed. After having plotted over 250 plats I can tell you that very few actually close perfectly, a gap of 80p in a 500 acre plot is not much. Charlotte Cain

I like to use the LM instead of LN for a call along a water body - it shows up blue on the map view and helps one visualiz where the water edge runs- helps in matching up otehr tracts Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: <KRothinVA@aol.com> To: <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [DMU] Corner labels incorrect > Al I have ever done if no corner description, is leave the space after PT > blank..or if along a river..simply put "along river" after the PT. > > Ken in VA > > > ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== > Send all messages and replies to <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com>. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

When I was using the DOS version of this software, and had old 1800 information from KY, I found that many a plot was not as the software said it was supposed to be. Since many of the primitive plots found in the court house probably did not have the accuracy that we have today. Once I closed the plot, then did some creative ways with the rest of the lines, it was easier to figure out how the piece really looked, and exactly as they had diagramed it in the original court records. Annette DeCourcy Towler Home page for DeCourcy & Pack http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~decourcy/ Web page for St. Cloud Area Genealogists, Inc. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnscag/SCAG/index.htm Family Researching in SE KY PACK, CHANDLER, WHEELER, FAIRCHILD,LeMASTERS, RAMEY,MILLER/MILAM/MILLAM, JAYNE, McSPADDEN Researching in NE KY DeCOURCY, ELLIS, BALL, MAINS, LEWIS, EVANS, SPILMAN, HUTCHINS, HAMILTON Researching in PA, IL WESSLING, SOMERS, SCHULER, PLAGGEE -----Original Message----- From: Jim Barrett [mailto:parino@flash.net] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 6:11 PM To: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [DMU] Corner labels incorrect A line must run from one point to another and a line must terminate at a point. You can not have point point and you can not have line line. If you have a boundary that runs north for 50 rods, at the end of that 50 rods there is a point, even if isn't described in the description. Jim Barrett Bedford, TX parino@flash.net Barrett Surname DNA Project Powell Surname DNA Project -----Original Message----- From: Jim Dempsey [mailto:jgnl-dempsey@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 4:19 PM To: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [DMU] Corner labels incorrect I just started plotted some deeds along a river that had 5 or 6 calls with no corner description. I left out the 'pt', that is 5 succesive "LN". I noticed on the plot that the later "PT" descriptions were on the wrong corners, that is, none in between were left blank, they pointed to the river bank. The only way to fix it was to make sure that every "LN" had a "PT " following it. Is this a 'bug' or just the way it is ? I notice you can't have 2 "PT" in a row also. No big deal, I just change the second one to a comment. thanks Jim ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== To un-subscribe from DEED-MAPPER-USERS-D (in DIGEST mode), send a message to <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-D-request@rootsweb.com> with just the word "unsubscribe" (no quotes)in the text and turn off your signature. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== Please turn off the "Reply To:" (leave it blank) in your messages. This is normally not needed unless you are sending from one address and expect to receive mail at a different address. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237