Whenever you add a parcel it will get plunked down in an arbitrary location and it's invariably the wrong location!. But you don't have to go to it to select it and drag it. Whenever you leave the Text View and go to the Plot View the parcel you were just looking at in the Text View is automatically selected. This means that you can be looking at a portion of a map where you want the parcel to be and you can "snap" the parcel there by simply holding down the left mouse button. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter and Connie Bradish" <bradish@attglobal.net> To: <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [DMU] Using Map with Deedmapper > Hi folks, > A good point is made below by "jgsull". Does anyone know how to > change the place a plot starts out once you get going with some plots, > add a map and find out the plots aren't near where you want them and > have to move all of them? The new plots seem to continue to show up > around where the previous plots were before you moved them. Not having > to zoom out, find the little pink or maroon plot figure and drag it over > to your area of interest on the map would be nice. > Thanks in advance for any ideas... Peter Bradish > > jgsull@comcast.net wrote: > > Sometimes the map shows up in unexpected parts of the entire region. > > Zoom out as far as you can and see if the map is far away from the > > deed plot area. > > > ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== > To un-subscribe from DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L (in MAIL mode), send a message to <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L-request@rootsweb.com> with just the word "unsubscribe" (no quotes)in the text and turn off your signature. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hi folks, A good point is made below by "jgsull". Does anyone know how to change the place a plot starts out once you get going with some plots, add a map and find out the plots aren't near where you want them and have to move all of them? The new plots seem to continue to show up around where the previous plots were before you moved them. Not having to zoom out, find the little pink or maroon plot figure and drag it over to your area of interest on the map would be nice. Thanks in advance for any ideas... Peter Bradish jgsull@comcast.net wrote: > Sometimes the map shows up in unexpected parts of the entire region. > Zoom out as far as you can and see if the map is far away from the > deed plot area.

Sometimes the map shows up in unexpected parts of the entire region. Zoom out as far as you can and see if the map is far away from the deed plot area. > Hey all, > > I haven't used Deedmapper in some time and I'm having a problem getting a > map (jpg or bmp.) to show up in the program. I recently got the state of > NC from TOPO on CD and have copied the area where my plats are into jpg > format (I tried bmp also). I've gone through the Deed Mapper help but I > can't get my map to show up on the screen. I have the map jpg and the > deed file in the same folder. I've gone into View Options and filled in > the "feet to inch" and "DPI" info. For DPI I tried 600 and 2400, I've not > found that number given in the TOPO software. The other items in the View > Options screen are listed as optional, but do I need to have them for it to > work? > > I looked back through the archives and wasn't able to find an answer to > this, sorry if I repeating commonly known info. > > Thanks! > > Joel > http://www.mindspring.com/~jsruss/ > > > ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== > To un-subscribe from DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L (in MAIL mode), send a message to > <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L-request@rootsweb.com> with just the word "unsubscribe" (no > quotes)in the text and turn off your signature. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Try using a DPI of 120. For a topo map using a scale of 2400 ft inch you need to use a DPE of about 120. This will make your DeedMapper plot the same as the topo map. Dale t 11:53 AM 6/26/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Hey all, > >I haven't used Deedmapper in some time and I'm having a problem getting a >map (jpg or bmp.) to show up in the program. I recently got the state of >NC from TOPO on CD and have copied the area where my plats are into jpg >format (I tried bmp also). I've gone through the Deed Mapper help but I >can't get my map to show up on the screen. I have the map jpg and the >deed file in the same folder. I've gone into View Options and filled in >the "feet to inch" and "DPI" info. For DPI I tried 600 and 2400, I've not >found that number given in the TOPO software. The other items in the View >Options screen are listed as optional, but do I need to have them for it >to work? > >I looked back through the archives and wasn't able to find an answer to >this, sorry if I repeating commonly known info. > >Thanks! > >Joel >http://www.mindspring.com/~jsruss/ > > >==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== >To un-subscribe from DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L (in MAIL mode), send a message to ><DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L-request@rootsweb.com> with just the word >"unsubscribe" (no quotes)in the text and turn off your signature. > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hey all, I haven't used Deedmapper in some time and I'm having a problem getting a map (jpg or bmp.) to show up in the program. I recently got the state of NC from TOPO on CD and have copied the area where my plats are into jpg format (I tried bmp also). I've gone through the Deed Mapper help but I can't get my map to show up on the screen. I have the map jpg and the deed file in the same folder. I've gone into View Options and filled in the "feet to inch" and "DPI" info. For DPI I tried 600 and 2400, I've not found that number given in the TOPO software. The other items in the View Options screen are listed as optional, but do I need to have them for it to work? I looked back through the archives and wasn't able to find an answer to this, sorry if I repeating commonly known info. Thanks! Joel http://www.mindspring.com/~jsruss/

Hi John, Try <http://www.abebooks.com/home/TKEESEE/>. I found the link on the DeedMapper web page <http://users.rcn.com/deeds/books.htm> where there are a number of vendors listed pertaining to surveying. They have "signed" copies of "The Wataugah Land Purchases" for $25 (plus s&h and maybe tax depending on where you are). Let them know you found it on the "DeedMapper people" web pages. ;-) Take care and good luck... Peter Bradish john stepp wrote: > I haven't found Keese's book yet but am still looking. > > Thanks again > john stepp

Thanks for all replies. Once I reviewed the topographic map and connect the other five or six deeds in the area, I was able to guess the direction of the first meandering line. Gordie -----Original Message----- From: jan_tripp@comcast.net [mailto:jan_tripp@comcast.net] Sent: 06/23/2004 1:01 PM To: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DMU] platting with two meandering lines in a row Gordie, You will first need to obtain a topographic showing Mountain Creek and the small branch to define the boundaries of the 400 acre parcel. Then you need to identify the two streams named in the deed on the topographic map and then superimpose the 137P line until it lines up on the banks of the two streams. It looks to me that Mountain Creek meanders east and then south. The small stream flows easterly into Mountain Creek to the south of the POB something less than 137P. There is nothing more from the description that tells the actual meander of the two streams. Jan > Hi, > > I have not used the software in a couple years and have started using it again. > As I have tried to plat patents in the Bush River Mountain Creek area of Prince > Edward, I have come across descriptions with two meandering lines in a row. For > example, Creed or Greed Haskins 400 acres patent in Patent Book 18 page 106 is > described (both sides of Mountain Creek of Bush River) as follows: > > "Beginning at a corner poplar on the lower side of Mountain Creek . . . thence > south eight degrees east one hundred and thirty seven poles to corner red oak on > a small branch thence down the said branch as it meanders to Mountain Creek > aforesaid and thence up the said creek as it meanders to beginning" > > Do you estimate the first meandering line say Lm S; 40P? Then the final > meandering line would just be Lm ; ;. Any other suggestions? > > Thanks for your assistance. > > Gordie Fears > > > > > ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== > Send all messages and replies to <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com>. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== Please turn off the "Reply To:" (leave it blank) in your messages. This is normally not needed unless you are sending from one address and expect to receive mail at a different address. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Mary Thanks for your information. I really did not expect to find a book on Tennessee like yours on Virginia. Would have been too good to be true. The information you sent may not be of use (need to explore more) but it is certainly interesting - history. Sometimes I find history more interesting than my family - particularly after being "stonewalled" for several years. I haven't found Keese's book yet but am still looking. Thanks again john stepp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary McCampbell Bell" <m.m.bell@verizon.net> To: <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 1:59 PM Subject: RE: [DMU] RE: A book on Virginia surveying > For working in East Tennessee, have you seen Troy Keesee's book "The > Wataugah Land Purchases"? There is an excellent discription of some of the > restrictions put on the surveys in that area by the Transylvania Land > Company. I have never seen anything like Sara Hughes's book, however, for > the entire state of Tennessee. The closest thing to it is the page of > Tennessee land terms on http://www.tngenweb.org/tnland/terms.htm > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: john stepp [mailto:tulloss@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 2:25 PM > To: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DMU] RE: A book on Virginia surveying > > > Mary > > Are you aware of a similar book on Tennessee (Bledsoe County) or where I > might "look" for information. > > Thanks > > John Stepp > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary McCampbell Bell" <m.m.bell@verizon.net> > To: <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 11:17 AM > Subject: [DMU] RE: A book on Virginia surveying > > > > Steve, > > I am so glad you enjoyed the book! I used it to teach in the week-long > > advanced land platting class at Samford University as part of the > Institute > > of Genealogy and Historical Research, and it made all the difference in > the > > world for them to understand how the surveyors worked and some of their > > techniques. We had a student who works in the surveying field and it was > > neat to hear him say "This works! This actually works!" > > > > Some of the best information is in the footnotes so I have flags all > through > > the book to bookmark some of them! > > > > Mary > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steve Broyles [mailto:steve.broyles@comcast.net] > > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 7:01 PM > > To: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: A book on Virginia surveying > > > > > > I've just finished reading a remarkable book, one that I thought was out > of > > print but which turns out to be readily available (thanks Mary Bell!) > > It's called "Surveyors and Statesmen: Land Measuring in Colonial > Virginia", > > by Sarah S. Hughes. > > > > This is an extremely detailed account (lots and lots of names and dates > and > > places) of how the technology of surveying evolved in colonial Virginia, > how > > the surveyors became men of standing and influence, the political > struggles > > in which they were involved, and how their jobs changed as the colony was > > settled. I can't even begin to describe how much I learned from it! But > a > > warning is in order. It's written like a doctoral thesis and is packed > with > > so much information that it's a bit like my grandmother's fudge-- so rich > > that a bite lasts a long time! > > > > You can order the book from the > > > > Virginia Association of Surveyors, > > 8752 Landmark Road, Richmond VA 23228 > > Voice: (804) 262-1351 | Fax: (804) 262-0511 > > > > The price is $25 plus a few dollars for shipping. > > > > Steve Broyles > > > > ______________________________ > > > > > > ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== > > Send all messages and replies to <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com>. > > > > ============================== > > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > > ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== > To un-subscribe from DEED-MAPPER-USERS-D (in DIGEST mode), send a message to <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-D-request@rootsweb.com> with just the word "unsubscribe" (no quotes)in the text and turn off your signature. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

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There are two options plat as two separate pieces with one meander per piece and then "fit" them together or estimate one of the meanders based upon a "guesstimate." ----- Original Message ----- From: "William B Clark" <dadster3@juno.com> To: <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:02 PM Subject: [DMU] Plotting w/two meander lines ( DEED-MAPPER-USERS-D Digest V04 #26) > I've had a number of situations like this, either with creek meanders or > "up the road" to someplace or "along so-and-so's fence" or something > similar. The problem is that the DM plot stops when it doesn't have both > a direction and a distance, a shortcoming that I hope will be addressed > in future versions. > > I've started drawing out the separate sections by hand on graph paper at > the topo map scale of 2000 ft/in. Equipment is fairly inexpensive and > it's something to do on a rainy day. You will need (1) a protractor. I > use a round one with degree scales running in both directions. This > kind of protractor lets you read direction directly. (2) an engineer's > scale in 10ths. You will need to convert chains, poles, rods etc to feet > and it's easier to work in decimals. (3) some clear plastic. Overhead > projector material is too expensive. I bought a pack of clear plastic > report covers, not the thin ones for documents but the thicker ones > suitable for bound reports. You can cut them to any size, but I've found > that quarter sheets work well. (4) A pack of water soluble fine tip > colored pens like Stanford Vis-a-Vis. (5) some masking tape. > > Draw what you can of each side of the unknown lines at different places > on the graph paper. Remember that you can plot in reverse just by using > reciprocal directions (N5E = S5W). The grid lines are your indexes for > N-S and E-W. Trace your lines for each piece of the plot on to separate > pieces of plastic w/the markers, making whatever notes you need and using > whatever colors you need. (I trace hard lines in black, meanders in blue > and conditional lines in green) Make sure to put a N arrow on your > tracing. You need this to keep your drawing oriented properly as you > move around the topo. > > Now you have two separate plots. Move them around on the topo until it > looks like you have a fit that meets all the conditions of the deed. > This is easier of course if you have some identifiable point like a creek > mouth, ford etc. somewhere on at least one of them. > > Once you have something that looks good to you, tape them in place. > Connect the dots to make the plot. Using your protractor and scale, > measure the direction and distance of the new lines. These will be very > approximate, but close enough to get started. > > Plug these computed lines into DM as conditional lines and see how close > the plot matches to the deed acreage. > > This can be very tedious, and it doesn't work every time. I've done some > that were w/i a few acres and others that were off by hundreds of acres. > When it does work, however, you have an approximate plot that is good > enough to get an idea of the property. You may improve the plot if/when > adjoining landowners are located. I usually color code plots that are as > iffy as some of these turn out to be and add remarks to the text for > explanation. > > Costs: about $5 for a good protractor; $5-7 for a scale, $3 for a couple > of pads of ¼" grid paper; $5 for a set of 5 colored pens; <$10 for a pack > of 25 clear plastic cover sheets; $3 for a roll of masking tape. > > You could probably do this in DM by setting up dummy deeds for the parts > on either side of the unknown lines, but it has seemed easier for me to > just do it by hand. > > Barry Clark > Fredericksburg, VA > Plotting & plodding in Elbert & Hart Co., GA > > > ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== > Send all messages and replies to <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com>. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

I've had a number of situations like this, either with creek meanders or "up the road" to someplace or "along so-and-so's fence" or something similar. The problem is that the DM plot stops when it doesn't have both a direction and a distance, a shortcoming that I hope will be addressed in future versions. I've started drawing out the separate sections by hand on graph paper at the topo map scale of 2000 ft/in. Equipment is fairly inexpensive and it's something to do on a rainy day. You will need (1) a protractor. I use a round one with degree scales running in both directions. This kind of protractor lets you read direction directly. (2) an engineer's scale in 10ths. You will need to convert chains, poles, rods etc to feet and it's easier to work in decimals. (3) some clear plastic. Overhead projector material is too expensive. I bought a pack of clear plastic report covers, not the thin ones for documents but the thicker ones suitable for bound reports. You can cut them to any size, but I've found that quarter sheets work well. (4) A pack of water soluble fine tip colored pens like Stanford Vis-a-Vis. (5) some masking tape. Draw what you can of each side of the unknown lines at different places on the graph paper. Remember that you can plot in reverse just by using reciprocal directions (N5E = S5W). The grid lines are your indexes for N-S and E-W. Trace your lines for each piece of the plot on to separate pieces of plastic w/the markers, making whatever notes you need and using whatever colors you need. (I trace hard lines in black, meanders in blue and conditional lines in green) Make sure to put a N arrow on your tracing. You need this to keep your drawing oriented properly as you move around the topo. Now you have two separate plots. Move them around on the topo until it looks like you have a fit that meets all the conditions of the deed. This is easier of course if you have some identifiable point like a creek mouth, ford etc. somewhere on at least one of them. Once you have something that looks good to you, tape them in place. Connect the dots to make the plot. Using your protractor and scale, measure the direction and distance of the new lines. These will be very approximate, but close enough to get started. Plug these computed lines into DM as conditional lines and see how close the plot matches to the deed acreage. This can be very tedious, and it doesn't work every time. I've done some that were w/i a few acres and others that were off by hundreds of acres. When it does work, however, you have an approximate plot that is good enough to get an idea of the property. You may improve the plot if/when adjoining landowners are located. I usually color code plots that are as iffy as some of these turn out to be and add remarks to the text for explanation. Costs: about $5 for a good protractor; $5-7 for a scale, $3 for a couple of pads of ¼" grid paper; $5 for a set of 5 colored pens; <$10 for a pack of 25 clear plastic cover sheets; $3 for a roll of masking tape. You could probably do this in DM by setting up dummy deeds for the parts on either side of the unknown lines, but it has seemed easier for me to just do it by hand. Barry Clark Fredericksburg, VA Plotting & plodding in Elbert & Hart Co., GA

Gordie, You will first need to obtain a topographic showing Mountain Creek and the small branch to define the boundaries of the 400 acre parcel. Then you need to identify the two streams named in the deed on the topographic map and then superimpose the 137P line until it lines up on the banks of the two streams. It looks to me that Mountain Creek meanders east and then south. The small stream flows easterly into Mountain Creek to the south of the POB something less than 137P. There is nothing more from the description that tells the actual meander of the two streams. Jan > Hi, > > I have not used the software in a couple years and have started using it again. > As I have tried to plat patents in the Bush River Mountain Creek area of Prince > Edward, I have come across descriptions with two meandering lines in a row. For > example, Creed or Greed Haskins 400 acres patent in Patent Book 18 page 106 is > described (both sides of Mountain Creek of Bush River) as follows: > > "Beginning at a corner poplar on the lower side of Mountain Creek . . . thence > south eight degrees east one hundred and thirty seven poles to corner red oak on > a small branch thence down the said branch as it meanders to Mountain Creek > aforesaid and thence up the said creek as it meanders to beginning" > > Do you estimate the first meandering line say Lm S; 40P? Then the final > meandering line would just be Lm ; ;. Any other suggestions? > > Thanks for your assistance. > > Gordie Fears > > > > > ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== > Send all messages and replies to <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com>. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Frankie, Thanks for posting this information to the list. I also spoke to the same person yesterday. She is very cordial and will process our orders, I am sure, as soon as possible. Charlotte Tucker

I just talked to the nice lady at the Virginia Assn. of Surveyors to order my copy and she was shell-shocked. She said she has been doing nothing but taking orders for this book all week. Every time she hangs up the phone and tries to do something, it rings again with another order. Thanks, Mary, for telling us about this book and how to get our very own copy! And to the rest of you, if you ever have the opportunity to take one of Mary Bell's and Birdie Holsclaw's land platting workshops at a national conference or the weeklong advanced land class with them and Rick Sayre at Samford, go for it! You'll learn a whole lot about sorting out gnarly metes and bounds problems and come to truly enjoy platting. Pamela Boyer Porter, CGRS, CGL Memory Lane, Inc. Web Site: <www.MoMemoryLane.com> E-mail: <Pam@MoMemoryLane.com> ***************************************** Certified Genealogical Records Specialist (CGRS) and Certified Genealogical Lecturer (CGL) are service marks of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under license by board-certified associates who meet genealogical competency standards prescribed for those programs.

Thank you so much for posting this info. on here - I've been frantically trying to get hold of that org. and get the book, thinking the copies were limited. It just so happens that as I read your message, she called!!!! My book is now on its way. Thanks again for putting this message out. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Frlva@aol.com> To: <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [DMU] RE: A book on Virginia surveying > I spoke to the company selling Hughes' book yesterday to place an order. They > are trying to return the many phone calls they have received, but there is > just one person who is returning the calls and who has other duties as well. I > told this lady that I would put a message on this list that she is returning > the calls as she can. She said that she had "cases" of these books, so I don't > believe they will run out of copies. > > Frankie Liles > > > ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== > Send all messages and replies to <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com>. > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > >

I spoke to the company selling Hughes' book yesterday to place an order. They are trying to return the many phone calls they have received, but there is just one person who is returning the calls and who has other duties as well. I told this lady that I would put a message on this list that she is returning the calls as she can. She said that she had "cases" of these books, so I don't believe they will run out of copies. Frankie Liles

Hi, I have not used the software in a couple years and have started using it again. As I have tried to plat patents in the Bush River Mountain Creek area of Prince Edward, I have come across descriptions with two meandering lines in a row. For example, Creed or Greed Haskins 400 acres patent in Patent Book 18 page 106 is described (both sides of Mountain Creek of Bush River) as follows: "Beginning at a corner poplar on the lower side of Mountain Creek . . . thence south eight degrees east one hundred and thirty seven poles to corner red oak on a small branch thence down the said branch as it meanders to Mountain Creek aforesaid and thence up the said creek as it meanders to beginning" Do you estimate the first meandering line say Lm S; 40P? Then the final meandering line would just be Lm ; ;. Any other suggestions? Thanks for your assistance. Gordie Fears

For working in East Tennessee, have you seen Troy Keesee's book "The Wataugah Land Purchases"? There is an excellent discription of some of the restrictions put on the surveys in that area by the Transylvania Land Company. I have never seen anything like Sara Hughes's book, however, for the entire state of Tennessee. The closest thing to it is the page of Tennessee land terms on http://www.tngenweb.org/tnland/terms.htm Mary -----Original Message----- From: john stepp [mailto:tulloss@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 2:25 PM To: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DMU] RE: A book on Virginia surveying Mary Are you aware of a similar book on Tennessee (Bledsoe County) or where I might "look" for information. Thanks John Stepp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary McCampbell Bell" <m.m.bell@verizon.net> To: <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 11:17 AM Subject: [DMU] RE: A book on Virginia surveying > Steve, > I am so glad you enjoyed the book! I used it to teach in the week-long > advanced land platting class at Samford University as part of the Institute > of Genealogy and Historical Research, and it made all the difference in the > world for them to understand how the surveyors worked and some of their > techniques. We had a student who works in the surveying field and it was > neat to hear him say "This works! This actually works!" > > Some of the best information is in the footnotes so I have flags all through > the book to bookmark some of them! > > Mary > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Broyles [mailto:steve.broyles@comcast.net] > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 7:01 PM > To: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: A book on Virginia surveying > > > I've just finished reading a remarkable book, one that I thought was out of > print but which turns out to be readily available (thanks Mary Bell!) > It's called "Surveyors and Statesmen: Land Measuring in Colonial Virginia", > by Sarah S. Hughes. > > This is an extremely detailed account (lots and lots of names and dates and > places) of how the technology of surveying evolved in colonial Virginia, how > the surveyors became men of standing and influence, the political struggles > in which they were involved, and how their jobs changed as the colony was > settled. I can't even begin to describe how much I learned from it! But a > warning is in order. It's written like a doctoral thesis and is packed with > so much information that it's a bit like my grandmother's fudge-- so rich > that a bite lasts a long time! > > You can order the book from the > > Virginia Association of Surveyors, > 8752 Landmark Road, Richmond VA 23228 > Voice: (804) 262-1351 | Fax: (804) 262-0511 > > The price is $25 plus a few dollars for shipping. > > Steve Broyles > > ______________________________ > > > ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== > Send all messages and replies to <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com>. > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > >

Mary Are you aware of a similar book on Tennessee (Bledsoe County) or where I might "look" for information. Thanks John Stepp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary McCampbell Bell" <m.m.bell@verizon.net> To: <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 11:17 AM Subject: [DMU] RE: A book on Virginia surveying > Steve, > I am so glad you enjoyed the book! I used it to teach in the week-long > advanced land platting class at Samford University as part of the Institute > of Genealogy and Historical Research, and it made all the difference in the > world for them to understand how the surveyors worked and some of their > techniques. We had a student who works in the surveying field and it was > neat to hear him say "This works! This actually works!" > > Some of the best information is in the footnotes so I have flags all through > the book to bookmark some of them! > > Mary > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Broyles [mailto:steve.broyles@comcast.net] > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 7:01 PM > To: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: A book on Virginia surveying > > > I've just finished reading a remarkable book, one that I thought was out of > print but which turns out to be readily available (thanks Mary Bell!) > It's called "Surveyors and Statesmen: Land Measuring in Colonial Virginia", > by Sarah S. Hughes. > > This is an extremely detailed account (lots and lots of names and dates and > places) of how the technology of surveying evolved in colonial Virginia, how > the surveyors became men of standing and influence, the political struggles > in which they were involved, and how their jobs changed as the colony was > settled. I can't even begin to describe how much I learned from it! But a > warning is in order. It's written like a doctoral thesis and is packed with > so much information that it's a bit like my grandmother's fudge-- so rich > that a bite lasts a long time! > > You can order the book from the > > Virginia Association of Surveyors, > 8752 Landmark Road, Richmond VA 23228 > Voice: (804) 262-1351 | Fax: (804) 262-0511 > > The price is $25 plus a few dollars for shipping. > > Steve Broyles > > ______________________________ > > > ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== > Send all messages and replies to <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com>. > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > >

Bought mine today -Rick > > From: "Mary McCampbell Bell" <m.m.bell@verizon.net> > Date: 2004/06/21 Mon PM 12:17:51 EDT > To: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DMU] RE: A book on Virginia surveying > > Steve, > I am so glad you enjoyed the book! I used it to teach in the week-long > advanced land platting class at Samford University as part of the Institute > of Genealogy and Historical Research, and it made all the difference in the > world for them to understand how the surveyors worked and some of their > techniques. We had a student who works in the surveying field and it was > neat to hear him say "This works! This actually works!" > > Some of the best information is in the footnotes so I have flags all through > the book to bookmark some of them! > > Mary > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Broyles [mailto:steve.broyles@comcast.net] > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 7:01 PM > To: DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: A book on Virginia surveying > > > I've just finished reading a remarkable book, one that I thought was out of > print but which turns out to be readily available (thanks Mary Bell!) > It's called "Surveyors and Statesmen: Land Measuring in Colonial Virginia", > by Sarah S. Hughes. > > This is an extremely detailed account (lots and lots of names and dates and > places) of how the technology of surveying evolved in colonial Virginia, how > the surveyors became men of standing and influence, the political struggles > in which they were involved, and how their jobs changed as the colony was > settled. I can't even begin to describe how much I learned from it! But a > warning is in order. It's written like a doctoral thesis and is packed with > so much information that it's a bit like my grandmother's fudge-- so rich > that a bite lasts a long time! > > You can order the book from the > > Virginia Association of Surveyors, > 8752 Landmark Road, Richmond VA 23228 > Voice: (804) 262-1351 | Fax: (804) 262-0511 > > The price is $25 plus a few dollars for shipping. > > Steve Broyles > > ______________________________ > > > ==== DEED-MAPPER-USERS Mailing List ==== > Send all messages and replies to <DEED-MAPPER-USERS-L@rootsweb.com>. > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > >