Terry, There may be no connection whatsoever, but there was an Edmund F. (some records show "T"; he was born about 1793, per one record on the Internet) Davidson on the 1840 Madison Co., AL census. He had married in Bedford Co., VA on 24 Oct 1822 to Mary Higginbotham. A Thomas Davidson provided the surety for this marriage. There was a Thomas Davidson who was still on the Bedford Co., VA census in 1850 (age 57....maybe/probably the son of Samuel Davidson from PA who was age 87....Samuel and Thomas were in the same household in 1850, as were some other Davidsons), but I don't know for a fact that he was the same Thomas Davidson who had provided the surety in 1822. It looks like Edmund F. Davidson did not go to Madison Co., AL until sometime after 1830, but he could have already had relatives there. What was the given name of the daughter of "your" Thomas Davidson who was in Madison Co., AL in 1843 (per that estate settlement)? Was she married in 1843? DNA kit numbers/donors 22127, 22233 and "your" 41424 in "Family 4" on the DNA website are closely matched. It would be better, of course, if two of these donors would upgrade from 25 to 37 markers like the third donor. I thought that 22233 was considering upgrading, but I have not heard if she (a women is the "contact/spokesperson" for this donor) has paid for that upgrade yet. The contact person for 22233 suspects that she MIGHT descend from a David and Elizabeth Davi(d)son who married in Bedford Co., VA in 1779. I am somewhat familiar with the family of that David Davidson. Note: When Campbell Co., VA was created from a part of Bedford Co., VA around 1782, the Davidsons who had been in Bedford seem to have then been in Campbell. As such, the above Edmund F. Davidson who married in Bedford in 1822, and the Thomas Davidson who provided surety there, COULD have been from a totally different/unrelated Davidson family versus the above David Davidson who married Elizabeth Cockrane (since later members of David's overall Davi(d)son family SEEM to have been living in Campbell Co., VA, not Bedford Co., VA, after 1782). I have always had my doubts that David Davidson and Elizabeth Cockrane "represented" the correct family for 22233 (though the correct ancestors certainly could have been a DIFFERENT David and Elizabeth Davidson). One reason that I have my doubts is that 22233 suspects that "her" David and Elizabeth Davidson were in PA in 1785 when they had a son there named Philemon Davidson/Davison. Both David and Elizabeth Davi(d)son and their son Philemon Davi(d)son ended-up in KY before 1800, as I recall (as did a potentially related John Davi(d)son...there was also a Thomas Davison in the family in KY). There was a David Davidson who was STILL on the Campbell Co., VA tax lists in VA in the early-1800s, and he had apparent sons named Samuel Davidson and David Davidson (though I have no proof that the father/older David Davidson was the SAME David Davidson who had married Elizabeth Cockrane in 1779). In addition, the David Davidson in Bedford Co., VA had an apparent brother named James Davidson, Junior, and he married Janet Cockrane (a sister of the above Elizabeth Cockrane) in Bedford Co., VA, also in 1779 . James Davidson, Junior died in Campbell Co., VA in the early-1800s, and I am just not convinced that his brother David Davidson moved from VA to PA by 1785 and then moved again from PA to KY before 1800 (but anything is possible). Donor 22105 in "Family 7" on the DNA website SEEMS to come from the same overall family in Bedford/Campbell Co., VA as the David Davidson and James Davidson, Junior who married the Cochrane sisters there in 1779, and that donor's DNA does NOT match donor 22233 in "Family 4" (hence another reason that I have my doubts about this being the "correct" David and Elizabeth Davidson for donor 22233). It is believed (by me, at least), that the "VA patriarch" of this family in Bedford and then Campbell Co., VA was a James Davidson, Senior from PA. He had (at a minimum) apparent sons named Samuel, David (who married Elizabeth Cockrane) and James Davidson, Junior (who married Janet Cockrane), and the son named Samuel (apparently married a Miss Gilbert, based on Samuel's Rev. War pension application) ended-up in Tennessee and finally Indiana. In my opinion, there seems to be no proof that this Davi(d)son family was "blood related" to the Davidsons who were in Bedford Co., VA in the 1790s (i.e., after Campbell Co., VA had been created) and beyond, though both families were from PA and both included one or more men named Samuel Davidson. Some other marriages that seem to have included members of the Davi(d)son family that was in Bedford Co., VA AFTER Campbell Co., VA had been created in 1782 include the following: Samuel Davison & Eunice Creasey-24 Dec 1791; Benjamin Davison provided the surety William Davidson & Nancy Scott-19 Oct 1792 George Davison & Mary Mitchell-31 Mar 1796 I do not know what happened to William and George, though the above Samuel Davison who married Eunice Creasey in 1791 could certainly have been the same Samuel Davison from PA who was still in Bedford Co., VA in 1850 (at the age of 87, per the 1850 census). Per some research I did (just on the Internet), there was also a Thomas Creasey and an Edmund Creasey in that overall Creasey family, so MAYBE Thomas Davidson and Edmund F. (T?) Davidson were brothers and were named for those Creaseys, IF the above Samuel Davidson and his wife Eunice Creasey were REALLY their ancestors (which seems like a reasonable assumption, especially based on the 1791 marriage date and the ages of Edmund and Thomas). Anyway, just another Davidson family for you to consider, I guess. I have seen nothing so far, however, that seems to connect donors 22127, 22233 and "your" 41424 to this Davidson family in Bedford Co., VA in the 1790s and beyond (other than perhaps the "PA connection," since 22233 believes that her family may go back to the David and Elizabeth Davison who had a son named Philemon Davison in PA in 1785). Note: Some researchers suspect that the David Davidson who married Elizabeth Cockrane in Bedford Co., VA in 1779 might have been from the same overall Davison/Davisson family represented by the donors in "Family 2" on the DNA website (there was a David Davison from that family in the Harrison/Monongalia area of VA (now West VA) in the late-1700s). Again, however, donor 22233 in "Family 4" does not match that family, and the donors in "Family 7" (who SEEM to be out of the Davi(d)son family that was in Bedford Co., VA until 1782 and then Campbell Co., VA after 1782) do not match that family either. Bill Davidson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Menck" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [DAVIDSON] Davidsons in AL-About 1818 and Beyond > Bill, > Yes I believe that is the number of the donor kit....I've been trying > to get the only Davidson male member I'm aware of (we pretty much have > daughtered out in my line), to submit...so far he's just a little > standoffish. So for now we go with Lloyd's entry. > > I was just thinking there was a John I. Davidson in Madison County > Alabama in 1815. I have another (or perhaps the same) John I. Davidson > who died in Johnson County Missouri in 1843. I show he's the son of > Thomas and Nancy Ann Davidson, Thomas died in 1845 in Johnson County > Missouri. Thomas and Nancy Ann had a daughter who was living in Madison > County Alabama in 1843 when John I. Davidson died (she is stated as a > sister in the estate settlement), I can't find any other family ties to > Alabama for this family, so was just wondering if anyone knows anything > about this older John I. Davidson and what family he could have belonged > to. Just trying to find another direction to look, the old paths are > getting kind of worn out. :) > > Thanks again, > Terry