As I recall (it's been 20 years or more since I went to the courthouse and viewed these records), another doubt occurs about the minister's marriage certificate date because the ENTRY into the ledger or journal was at least a month AFTER the wedding, so it's hard to take total faith in his date that is 3 days later than the fam Bible states. Any time something is written down, errors are common. One more reason for US to record events, thoughts, and memories IMMEDIATELY, like the same day, or it will too soon grow fuzzy on the details. When different docs record different dates, and no way to disprove or prove, I try to record ALL dates and sources where found. Makes interesting reading even if you can't figure out the exact date. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Rev. Paul D. Curtis [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 6:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DAVENPORT] Family Bible vs Census I tend to believe the 'family Bible records' instead of the census, for this reason: in the case of my own marriage, the Minister who performed our marriage wrote down the wrong date of our marriage. He wrote down the date he mailed in the Marriage Certificate [license] to the county instead of the date of our actual marriage. So, on the County Marriage Records the date recorded for our marriage is WRONG! My husband is a Minister and it's very easy to make this same mistake the way the Marriage Certificates are worded. It's a bit confusing to the Minister ...does he sign his name and date it the day of the actual marriage or the date he's mailing it in? I imagine many have made this mistake. Thel ----- Original Message ----- From: "pamandrandy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 07:53 PM Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] RE: Documentation > I can relate to that my husbands 3 great grandfather jerimiah davenport and his second wife sara fine snider davenport is a mess... > so who do we believe the census the records or the family bibles? if i get information out of the census and then the birth and marriage bonds and all three has different dates what do you do? > > pam rice church (searching for hubby's family) > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Devenport, Jim" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 17:04:58 -0600 > > >Well, along this thread: > >My grandparents were married on 7 August 1910, according to their family > >Bible. The marriage certificate, on file at the Chavez County courthouse in > >Roswell, NM, signed by the minister who married them, states the wedding > >date as 10 Aug 1910. So according to the "official" document, my > >grandparents were wrong in recording their wedding as 7 August. Perhaps > >that was the day they obtained the marriage license or bond? Who knows? > >The only thing I'm pretty certain of in this case is that they were married > >on one of these fine days in August. > >Errors occur for all sorts of reasons. I noticed that my > >great-great-grandmother Permelia Ann Reynolds, in one census recorded while > >she was living with her second husband, was listed as "age 39" when in fact > >she was 45, according to her family bible information and other censuses. > >Might this have anything to do with the fact that her then-new husband > >listed his age as 40? Perhaps she fibbed about her age both to younger > >husband AND [Heaven Forbid] the census-taker? > >In later censuses her age is recorded accurately, but by then she was no > >longer wed to a younger man. > >Surely she has to have been the only woman in history to have fibbed about > >her age or other statistics to a government official? <evil snicker> > >Jim Devenport > >(DNA participant anxiously awaiting results of the test. Hoping I really AM > >a Devenport, and not the milkman's son, as my Dad often joked)

What if the minister did not record the marriage in the place that he married the couple. If the minister was traveling one then he recorded the marriage up or down the river from the wedding place or he recorded when he got home. I have family living in VA the minister was from Maryland. That is where he record my ancestor marriage. Has anyone looked for the application of marriage? This is wonderful for the couple filed it out. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: Devenport, Jim <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 1:38 PM Subject: RE: [DAVENPORT] Family Bible vs Census > As I recall (it's been 20 years or more since I went to the courthouse and > viewed these records), another doubt occurs about the minister's marriage > certificate date because the ENTRY into the ledger or journal was at least a > month AFTER the wedding, so it's hard to take total faith in his date that > is 3 days later than the fam Bible states. Any time something is written > down, errors are common. > One more reason for US to record events, thoughts, and memories IMMEDIATELY, > like the same day, or it will too soon grow fuzzy on the details. > When different docs record different dates, and no way to disprove or prove, > I try to record ALL dates and sources where found. Makes interesting > reading even if you can't figure out the exact date. > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rev. Paul D. Curtis [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 6:08 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DAVENPORT] Family Bible vs Census > > > I tend to believe the 'family Bible records' instead of the census, for this > reason: in the case of my own marriage, the Minister who performed our > marriage wrote down the wrong date of our marriage. He wrote down the > date he mailed in the Marriage Certificate [license] to the county instead > of the date of our actual marriage. So, on the County Marriage Records > the date recorded for our marriage is WRONG! > > My husband is a Minister and it's very easy to make this same mistake the > way the Marriage Certificates are worded. It's a bit confusing to the > Minister > ...does he sign his name and date it the day of the actual marriage or the > date he's mailing it in? I imagine many have made this mistake. > > Thel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "pamandrandy" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 07:53 PM > Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] RE: Documentation > > > > I can relate to that my husbands 3 great grandfather jerimiah davenport > and his second wife sara fine snider davenport is a mess... > > so who do we believe the census the records or the family bibles? if i get > information out of the census and then the birth and marriage bonds and all > three has different dates what do you do? > > > > pam rice church (searching for hubby's family) > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > > From: "Devenport, Jim" <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 17:04:58 -0600 > > > > >Well, along this thread: > > >My grandparents were married on 7 August 1910, according to their family > > >Bible. The marriage certificate, on file at the Chavez County courthouse > in > > >Roswell, NM, signed by the minister who married them, states the wedding > > >date as 10 Aug 1910. So according to the "official" document, my > > >grandparents were wrong in recording their wedding as 7 August. Perhaps > > >that was the day they obtained the marriage license or bond? Who knows? > > >The only thing I'm pretty certain of in this case is that they were > married > > >on one of these fine days in August. > > >Errors occur for all sorts of reasons. I noticed that my > > >great-great-grandmother Permelia Ann Reynolds, in one census recorded > while > > >she was living with her second husband, was listed as "age 39" when in > fact > > >she was 45, according to her family bible information and other censuses. > > >Might this have anything to do with the fact that her then-new husband > > >listed his age as 40? Perhaps she fibbed about her age both to younger > > >husband AND [Heaven Forbid] the census-taker? > > >In later censuses her age is recorded accurately, but by then she was no > > >longer wed to a younger man. > > >Surely she has to have been the only woman in history to have fibbed > about > > >her age or other statistics to a government official? <evil snicker> > > >Jim Devenport > > >(DNA participant anxiously awaiting results of the test. Hoping I really > AM > > >a Devenport, and not the milkman's son, as my Dad often joked) > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > For instructions on unsubscribing or searching the list archives visit: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/group.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >