This also explains why we see many 2 to 3 month date conflicts on the older dates. An old document might state "the 3rd month" - meaning May. Then today, if someone didn't know any better, he would interpret this as March, and enter that into his genealogy records. Bill Davenport >wbdave@aol.com -------------------- In a message dated 11/14/2005 11:39:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, dcraw4d@austin.rr.com writes: I have been having the pleasure of reviewing entries in an online transcribed bible where the oldest date is 1613 from England. Many of the month entries were written using strange descriptions such as VIIber, VIIber, IXber, & Xber. I was so curious about these strange entries that I "googled" one of these examples and found website http://www.jaydax.co.uk/genlinks/palaeography-numdate.html titled Paleography - Numbers and Dates. Many of you may already be educated with this type of date entry but I wasn't. Oh! VIIber = September VIIIber = October IXber = November Xber = December So why doesn't IXber = September and Xber = October, check out the website to learn more. Don (Davenport) Crawford