Wini & all- Thank you for pointing that info out. You're right, with those dates, I highly doubt if they are correct. I've seen Orme's date of birth differ in research. Our site says he was born ca 1066. I've also seen frequently that he was born 1034. At this point, I'm not sure. Orme's birth at 1034 and his son Richard's birth at 1136 leaves alot of room and now makes Orme 102 years old when he fathered Richard. Physically impossible, no? Now that makes me think that perhaps there are one and quite possibly two generations missing. However, if Orme were born 1066, then I can't believe he was with William The Conquerer in that same year (amazing baby). Can anybody enlighten me on this situation? Sure could use some help with this. Would anyone like to write a historical and educational piece on William The Conquerer? I'd like to have more on that era available on our website. I'd prefer that it be historically accurate. If you'd like to write this piece for the site, email me at: [email protected] Thank you for the history lesson, it was much needed.....cuzzin Teri http://DavenportFamily.1colony.com