Byrom: There needs be no confusion relative to descent from Jack Smith Davenport of Revolutionary fame: Jack S. had five children--John, Richard, and William and the two daughters who married Byrons or Byroms. All were in Georgia by 1800. You're cool if you trace from any one of those five. But if you trace back to a Jack Smith Davenport who was alive after 1781, you are not a descendant of Jack Smith of Revolutionary fame. You are a descendant of either William Davenport, an older Jack Smith brother; or Richard, a younger Jack Smith brother; or David, Jack Smith's uncle (second family). The revision recognizes two lines of descent, splits Jack Smith 2 and John into the two individuals they really were. Doc

One publication about the Barksdale family is available via HeritageQuest Online for those with a public library that subscribes to HQ. It is "Barksdale family history and genealogy (with collateral lines)," authored by John Augustus Barksdale (1890- ), published in Richmond, VA in 1940. A now thoroughly confused descendant of Jack Smith Davenport, The Hero! Byrom Wehner Houston, TX -----Original Message----- From: davenport-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:davenport-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ellen Eanes Bethel Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 4:37 PM To: davenport@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] Second Jack Smith Davenport in Charlotte was notson of Revolutionary Casualty Mind boggling. My husband, has a daughter, Anne and a daughter, Nancy.The subject of names came uprecently and I asked if he knew "Nancy" was a nickname for Ann (e )and he did not. So a sister of both Anne and Nancy named her only daughter "Nancianne". The latter discussed this with me several years ago and laughingly said her nieces, call her ,"AuntyNanciAnnie". I hope you get this straightened out in my lifetime. I am not kidding. I have my second bout of Chemotherapty on Tuesday. My giblets were all rearraigned in Sept. Is somebody looking at the Barksdales? Seem as if there are family histories from Ky ., at the FHC, SLC which I have not read. Ellen Eanes Bethel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DAVENPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don't mean to muddy the waters, but there is another Jack Smith Davenport in Georgia in the early 1800's living with Allen Davenport from Pink Hill, NC, son of William Davenport of Pitt County, NC. Allen was married to Martha Hawthorne and lived in Stewart County, GA. During one census Jack Smith Davenport and a wife whose name I can't remember were shown living with Allen and Martha. This was either 1840 or 1850 census. Anyone want to make a guess about who he was or where he came from? Sandy Lunsford Fayetteville, GA

I love family gossip :) Thanks for keeping us up-to-date. Ginger Johnson ~ So. IL/St. Louis -----Original Message----- From: JSDDOC@aol.com To: davenport@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 3:32 PM Subject: [DAVENPORT] Second Jack Smith Davenport in Charlotte was not son of Revolutionary Casualty Consider yourselves caught up on family gossip. John Scott Davenport Holmdel, NJ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DAVENPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

Mind boggling. My husband, has a daughter, Anne and a daughter, Nancy.The subject of names came uprecently and I asked if he knew "Nancy" was a nickname for Ann (e )and he did not. So a sister of both Anne and Nancy named her only daughter "Nancianne". The latter discussed this with me several years ago and laughingly said her nieces, call her ,"AuntyNanciAnnie". I hope you get this straightened out in my lifetime. I am not kidding. I have my second bout of Chemotherapty on Tuesday. My giblets were all rearraigned in Sept. Is somebody looking at the Barksdales? Seem as if there are family histories from Ky ., at the FHC, SLC which I have not read. Ellen Eanes Bethel

PAMUNKEYS & OTHERS INTERESTED: No Pamunkey of Colonial Times has been in the spotlight more than Jack Smith Davenport, of Charlotte County, Virginia, who was mortally wounded as a Militia Ensign at the Battle of Guilford Court House (15Mar1781)--likely because of his early identification and certification as a genuine Revolutionary Patriot by the DAR. Jack S. was the second or third son of John the Bankrupt of Hanover-Spotsylvania-Louisa (d. after 1776), and a grandson of Martin, Sr., of Hanover (d. 1735). For many years, Jack S. and his brother John were considered to be one and the same person, for early Pamunkey genealogists assumed that John the Bankrupt would not have had both a Jack and John in the same family, and besides they accepted the claim that John [Jr.], the Spotsylvania tavern keeper and miller, was a son of Richard, Sr., of Caroline. Strong circumstantial evidence now supports the contention that John the Bankrupt did have both a Jack Smith and John among his five sons (no daughters known or suspected), and John, Jr., the Spotsylvania tavern keeper was not the son of Richard, Sr., of Caroline. He was the son of John the Bankrupt, who was a Spotsylvania tavern keeper before and early into his disastrous financial affairs. Continuing the vocation, John, Jr.'s eldest son Richard Davenport, a Colonel of US Volunteers in the War of 1812, breveted a Brigadier General of Kentucky Militia for his heroics at the Revenge of the River Raison Massacre and in the Campaign in Lower Canada, was a famed tavern keeper in Danville, Kentucky. Tedious analysis of Charlotte records now reveal that contrary to the long accepted notion of the second Jack Smith as the eldest son of the Revolutionary martyr, the Jack S./Jack Smith Davenport who appeared in Charlotte and adjoining Campbell records 1791-98 (and later?) was more likely to have been the second son of William, eldest son of John the Bankrupt, and William's wife Elizabeth Rawlings, widow of James Pulliam, all then of Spotsylvania. In Spotsylvania, William of John was invariably William, Jr., because his Uncle William, an elder brother of John the Bankrupt, had the precedence in the given name as well as a reputation for sound financial judgment and for living within his means. Variously escaping Spotsylvania and Louisa (next county south) where John, Sr., fled after he had been picked clean, having lost his land and slaves and reputation, John's sons Jack Smith, Richard, and William, Jr., joined up in the extreme northwest corner of Charlotte County (now mostly in Appomattox County), where they each acquired sizable acreages adjoining and lived out their lives--Jack Smith died in 1781, William in 1802, and Richard in 1832. Richard's Jack Smith, the third of the name, moved to Kentucky in the 1820s. The fourth Jack Smith known was the son of David Davenport of Cumberland, a brother of John the Bankrupt. David's Jack Smith has not been found in Virginia records after being named a codefendant in an Amherst County lawsuit in 1809 relative to land left to him and his brothers Glover and Jesse by their father. The land had been under mortgage since 1767. The horse was long dead, so the Davenport brothers wisely did not try to claim the carcass. Both Jack Smith 3 and 4 were likely namesakes of the Revolutionary martyr. Our concern here is Jack Smith 2, long identified as the eldest son of Jack Smith the Hero. If so, he had to have been the child of a wife before Lucy Barksdale, who Jack Smith the Hero married c1775. Jack Smith 2 was a juror in Campbell County in 1791, meaning he was at least age 21, hence was born c1770 or before. When her father died in 1774, Lucy Barksdale was a minor, but was of at least age 14 because she chose her own guardian. By 1776 she was identifying herself as Lucy Davenport. She was not Jack Smith 2's mother. When Jack Smith the First's five children, having all moved to Hancock County, Georgia, within their stepfather's family, in 1800 sold their father's Virginia land left to all of them, John Davenport, apparently the eldest son and child, was agent for his brothers William and Richard and his two married sisters. Pamunkey genealogists again assumed that Jack Smith and John were one and the same person, but records again refute the assumption. Jack Smith 2 was not the John who sold Jack Smith the Hero's land to Uncle Richard Davenport, Gentleman. Jack Smith 3 was in the same county on an adjacent plantation, but he was in his early to mid-teens. Jack Smith 4 was working as hired man in Powhatan County. The fact is that we have two Jack Smith Davenports yet to be traced--namely (a) Jack Smith 2, who was likely the second son of William and a grandson of John the Bankrupt, and nephew of Jack Smith the Hero, and (b) Jack Smith 4, the son of David of Cumberland and a first cousin to the Hero. William's LW&T named only sons Presley (eldest), and Benjamin (youngest) and makes a residual distribution to "all my children," which could have included a Jack Smith 2. As that Jack Smith, now believed son of William, we are in a quandary as to whether he has last been found on the Charlotte County Personal Property Tax List of 1798 assessed for one tithe (himself) and one horse, or whether he was the Jack Smith Davenport found listed following Elizabeth Davenport, William's widow, on Charlotte Tax Lists in the first two decades of the 19th Century. Jack Smith Davenport 3, clearly the son of Richard Davenport, Gentleman, married in Charlotte in 1813, was clearly much younger than Jack Smith 2. He traces easily in Charlotte and then to Warren County, Kentucky. That's the present state of Jack Smith Davenport identifications. If anyone can clarify or help to clarify our quandary, please do. A bit of Family color as to principals cited here: Both fathers of a Jack Smith Davenport were noteworthy in other regards: William of John the Bankrupt, who died in Charlotte County in 1802, holds the Pamunkey Davenport 18th Century record for the number of time indicted by a Grand Jury for public drunkenness and/or swearing: 3, all in Charlotte. David Davenport, a younger brother of John the Bankrupt, died in Cumberland in 1802, holds the Pamunkey Davenport 18th Century record for number of times confined in Debtors Prison: 1 in Spotsylvania, 4 in Cumberland, 1 in Louisa, and 1 possibly in Orange. Debtors Prisons, a hold over from the days of the King's Justice, were eliminated in Virginia in the 1790s. So David's record is inviolate. William's record has long since been equaled or surpassed. While excessive drink and swearing are no longer worthy of a Grand Jury's attention, more than one Pamunkey plantation or farm in the two centuries since has been lost to alcoholic excess--to cast the matter in dainty terms. Several Pamunkeys, North and South, we have been advised, have held County Cussing Championships, although we have no breakdowns relative to specialties in blasphemy, obscenity, and/or scatological verbiage. Urban Pamunkeys too, we have been told, have neglected neither thirst nor expression excesses, despite the great number of Methodists amongst us. (My revered Grandfather William Asbury Davenport, and a Great-Great Grandfather of Nevada Jack's, despite being a namesake of the Pioneer Methodist Bishop who created the famed Circuit Riding ministry, split with the Methodists over Temperance.) We might also note that John, Jr., Spotsylvania tavern keeper, was indicted at least once a year from 1780 thru 1800 by a Grand Jury for Retailing Spirits without a License, which apparently was John's calendar reminder to renew his Liquor License. For those who have noted that only four sons of John the Bankrupt have been mentioned herein, the fourth son was another Martin Davenport--John, Jr., tavern keeper, having been the fifth. Martin of John the Bankrupt, records indicate, was a man who worked for wages, was an overseer or hired man for various planters in Hanover, Louisa, and Henrico counties for 30 years or so, never owned land--appears to have died in Richmond c1800. By direct identification and circumstantial connection thereto, Martin of John was the father of four daughters, and possibly two sons, one of whom, namely a Thomas Davenport, was a celebrity escapee from Richmond Jail in 1795. We should know more than that, but we have not focused in on Pamunkey urban dwellers, Richmond or elsewhere. There were few prior to 1850. Consider yourselves caught up on family gossip. John Scott Davenport Holmdel, NJ

Dear Christie, I had lost your email address, and am so glad to hear from you. I found a picture of the 6 Davenport brothers and sisters that was taken about 1952 or 3. Would you like a copy of it? It is a snapshot taken at Garden Valley. Love L:oraine

My nephew is currently in Kuwait. We email regularly. A few weeks ago he told me that he was given the honor of sending our falling heroes home. He spoke of it with sadness at saying goodbye to these men and women who gave their lives, but said that he had never had a greater honor in his life than to see them saluted back home. I pray for him and his comrades. Cristi Williams, Davenport and Frazier cousin

In a message dated 11/13/2006 4:41:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, TJDimmett@aol.com writes: DNA says Jonah's line does match the Humphrey line This should've said "does not" match the Humphrey line....sorry!

Thanks Mr Davenport, I was just looking for more info than I already have on Jonah. I learned something new, I didn't know about Jonah's death. I also didn't know about the alledged ill treatment of the Indians. I've searched the web and found some sites, particularly concerning the Scotch Irish in Pennsylvania. I was trying to see if it could be determined where Jonah came from specifically, prior to Pennsylvania. Just trying to locate parents for Jonah. This is probably a losing battle. I'm interested in this line basically because of the Haplo group the DNA results put this line in, that of Haplo Group I. My Humphrey line, as you know, is Haplo Group J. These two lines are the only ones that differ from that of all other Davenport's tested, that being Haplo Group R1b. DNA says Jonah's line does match the Humphrey line, but being an odd result, like my Humphrey, thought I'd check into the family some more. Thank you for your time and your prompt response....Teri If anyone is interested in this family, I just built a website to house our Jonah information, site can be seen at- _www.JonahDavenport.50megs.com_ (http://www.JonahDavenport.50megs.com)

Teri: I do not have the book you seek, but I did a lot of research thirty years ago on Jonas Davenport, Indian Trader, of Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. I'll have to check to see what I've got left. Two years ago I gave most of my genealogical library, i.e., Virginia and the Carolinas, to Southern Virginia University, and my Pennsylvania, Maryland, Kentucky, Indiana, and German Pietistic (Mennonites, Dunkers, Sabbatarians, River Brethren) files to Dr. David B. Eller, Elizabethtown College, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. I intended to keep all of my Davenport data, North as well as South, but Jonas Davenport was immersed among the Swiss and Germans of the Colonial Susquehanna, so his file may have gone to Elizabethtown. My remaining old files are in cases in the basement, so I'll have to take a look to see what I've got left. I seem to remember that Jonas got cross wise with the Penns and lost his trading license for harsh treatment of Indians, died a drunk in a tavern, and that a son of his became a prominent merchant in Lancaster Borough. Doc

I'm wondering if anyone has a copy of, or access to SCOTCH IRISH PIONEERS IN ULSTER AND AMERICA. By Charles Knowles Bolton. 398 pages, indexed. Originally published at Boston 1910. E-publication reprint 2001. If so, would you be willing to share everything it says about Jonah/Jonas Davenport, the Indian trader of Pennsylvania? Thank you in advance...Teri

Cliff: thank you for the information on the Wreath Laying at Arlington. As the daughter and also the wife of a West Pointer I have a very deep appreciation for those men and women who have fought so bravely for our country. But most particularly I have a tremendous appreciation for those who have fought for our freedom and lost their lives doing so. Thanks to your information I have contacted the company to see if my local DAR Chapter can participate this Christmas here in Southern California. After all it is the least we can do for those who gave their lives. thank you. Joanne

This story is also listed in the December 2006 Readers Digest, for those who haven't seen it yet. Cherlynn --- crd_30mjd_42@yahoo.com wrote: From: "Cliff and Mary Jane" <crd_30mjd_42@yahoo.com> To: <DAVENPORT-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DAVENPORT] Fw: Christmas at Arlington Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:38:32 -0800 ----- Original Message ----- From: Cliff and Mary Jane To: DAVENPORT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:32 PM Subject: Fw: Christmas at Arlington Jack and all. Along with Jack's message, I thought this might be fitting. I forgot that photos couldn't be sent to the site, so the original message can't be sent. But, more is contained in the site below. If any would like to read and see, go to www.snopes.com , type christmas wreathes in the search box, then click on #1. More story, more pictures, and a 7 minute video (with audio) that might bring a tear. Well worth anyone's time. Thanks for the start, Jack. Cliff Davenport Mill City, OR ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DAVENPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: Cliff and Mary Jane To: DAVENPORT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:32 PM Subject: Fw: Christmas at Arlington Jack and all. Along with Jack's message, I thought this might be fitting. I forgot that photos couldn't be sent to the site, so the original message can't be sent. But, more is contained in the site below. If any would like to read and see, go to www.snopes.com , type christmas wreathes in the search box, then click on #1. More story, more pictures, and a 7 minute video (with audio) that might bring a tear. Well worth anyone's time. Thanks for the start, Jack. Cliff Davenport Mill City, OR

Thank you Jack, My husband served in the Air Force in Korea and our son served in the Navy as a Cor man. Nancy Davenport --- Jack <nvjack@nvbell.net> wrote: > Thank you, Don. > > Jack > > -----Original Message----- > From: davenport-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:davenport-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Don Crawford > Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:20 PM > To: davenport@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] VETERANS DAY > > Bless you Jack and all that you do. I will pray for Jeffrey and his > safe > keeping and also for all those that serve with him. > > Don (Davenport) Crawford > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: davenport-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:davenport-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Jack > Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 6:57 PM > To: unsubscribe@healthydirections.com > Subject: [DAVENPORT] VETERANS DAY > > Greetings to my Family and Friends, > > I hope that each of you had a very memorable Veterans Day and that each > of > you were able to find a way to honor those who have served and those who > are > still serving, such as my grandson, Jeffrey, who has already done one > tour > of duty in Iraq with the US Army and expects to do another one next > year. > > President Woodrow Wilson proclaimed Nov. 11 Armistice Day in 1919 to > commemorate the end of hostilities in World War I, one year earlier. > > During the early 1950s, the name was changed to Veterans Day, and the > observance was expanded to honor veterans of all wars. > > Veterans Day upholds a longstanding American tradition that began when > Gen. > George Washington acknowledged the "debt of gratitude" the country owed > its > troops who served in the Continental Army. > > Early this morning, I had the privilege of participating in the 21-gun > salute to our fallen veterans that was performed by the American Legion > Honor Guard, of which I am a member [I was one of the riflemen this > time], > in the Veterans Section of Nevada’s oldest cemetery at Dayton, Nevada. > > Later, beginning at 11:11 AM, our American Legion Color Guard led the > Veterans Day Parade down the main street of Virginia City. This year I > got > to be the drummer [for the first time] instead of a rifleman, and I’ve > been > told I did a pretty good job and had a “good beat” <big smile>. I look > forward to doing it again in the future. > > It was a great honor to be able to perform these "duties" today and to > pay > tribute to those who are willing to put themselves in harm's way in > order to > protect those of us back home. > > God Bless America and all who serve to keep her free. > > Best regards and good wishes to all. > > Nevada Jack in Carson City >   > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DAVENPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DAVENPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DAVENPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com

I salute all those currently serving in the Armed Forces, particularly those serving in harms way. In addition, I salute those who have served our country in the past, most particularly those who have given their lives so we many be free. God bless America. Joanne Murphy

Thank you Jack.... You said it beautifully.... I'm proud to be a American, and proud of our Veterans and the men currently serving to keep our Freedom safe. Bonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack To: unsubscribe@healthydirections.com Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 7:57 PM Subject: [DAVENPORT] VETERANS DAY Greetings to my Family and Friends, I hope that each of you had a very memorable Veterans Day and that each of you were able to find a way to honor those who have served and those who are still serving, such as my grandson, Jeffrey, who has already done one tour of duty in Iraq with the US Army and expects to do another one next year. President Woodrow Wilson proclaimed Nov. 11 Armistice Day in 1919 to commemorate the end of hostilities in World War I, one year earlier. During the early 1950s, the name was changed to Veterans Day, and the observance was expanded to honor veterans of all wars. Veterans Day upholds a longstanding American tradition that began when Gen. George Washington acknowledged the "debt of gratitude" the country owed its troops who served in the Continental Army. Early this morning, I had the privilege of participating in the 21-gun salute to our fallen veterans that was performed by the American Legion Honor Guard, of which I am a member [I was one of the riflemen this time], in the Veterans Section of Nevada's oldest cemetery at Dayton, Nevada. Later, beginning at 11:11 AM, our American Legion Color Guard led the Veterans Day Parade down the main street of Virginia City. This year I got to be the drummer [for the first time] instead of a rifleman, and I've been told I did a pretty good job and had a "good beat" <big smile>. I look forward to doing it again in the future. It was a great honor to be able to perform these "duties" today and to pay tribute to those who are willing to put themselves in harm's way in order to protect those of us back home. God Bless America and all who serve to keep her free. Best regards and good wishes to all. Nevada Jack in Carson City ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DAVENPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bless you Jack and all that you do. I will pray for Jeffrey and his safe keeping and also for all those that serve with him. Don (Davenport) Crawford -----Original Message----- From: davenport-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:davenport-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 6:57 PM To: unsubscribe@healthydirections.com Subject: [DAVENPORT] VETERANS DAY Greetings to my Family and Friends, I hope that each of you had a very memorable Veterans Day and that each of you were able to find a way to honor those who have served and those who are still serving, such as my grandson, Jeffrey, who has already done one tour of duty in Iraq with the US Army and expects to do another one next year. President Woodrow Wilson proclaimed Nov. 11 Armistice Day in 1919 to commemorate the end of hostilities in World War I, one year earlier. During the early 1950s, the name was changed to Veterans Day, and the observance was expanded to honor veterans of all wars. Veterans Day upholds a longstanding American tradition that began when Gen. George Washington acknowledged the "debt of gratitude" the country owed its troops who served in the Continental Army. Early this morning, I had the privilege of participating in the 21-gun salute to our fallen veterans that was performed by the American Legion Honor Guard, of which I am a member [I was one of the riflemen this time], in the Veterans Section of Nevada’s oldest cemetery at Dayton, Nevada. Later, beginning at 11:11 AM, our American Legion Color Guard led the Veterans Day Parade down the main street of Virginia City. This year I got to be the drummer [for the first time] instead of a rifleman, and I’ve been told I did a pretty good job and had a “good beat” <big smile>. I look forward to doing it again in the future. It was a great honor to be able to perform these "duties" today and to pay tribute to those who are willing to put themselves in harm's way in order to protect those of us back home. God Bless America and all who serve to keep her free. Best regards and good wishes to all. Nevada Jack in Carson City   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DAVENPORT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I want to share the message below that I received "privately" a short while ago. Jack Thanks to you and yours from another vet's wife. My husband served in two wars and the National Guard. I truly believe that you owe something to your country and appreciate your freedom more when you give of yourself. God Bless America and those who stand between us and the harm Islam desires to inflict on all mankind. Carolyn Clements Texas