If you are looking for volunteers for Y DNA testing - I am a direct descendant of Thomas Davenport of Dorchester, Mass. from the 1640s. Any other lines want to volunteer? Thomas > Charles > Thomas > Lemuel > Daniel > Amos > George > Birge > Wesley > Jack > William Davenport William Davenport [email protected]

I guess the next step is to see if we have any male Davenports, Northern or Southern, or from the British Isles, Canada, Australia or New Zealand, who would be interested in participating in a Y DNA study. Unless there is some fund raising, each person would have to pay for his own test or secure a sponsor. You can look at the following page to get an idea of the costs involved: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~scperkins/BallDNA.html The links from the post this morning have more details on the tests and the reasons to do this. Regards, Steven C. Perkins

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Teri: I agree with your plea for separate but equal status for other Davenports on DAVENPORT-L, so how could I be offended? I put the "Pamunkey" label on my stuff, so those uninterested can hit the "delete" button. Keep on doing what you're doing. Looks like good, dedicated work to me. Doc

The only useful people to test are males named Davenport/Devenport. Females do not have the Y and males descended from any female Davenport don't have the Davenport Y. For example, the only use that could be made of my Y would be comparing to others named BANKS. This of course doesn't take into account possible cases of illegitimate offspring being falsely labelled. Some of those will come up whenever such studies are done. -----Original Message----- From: Janet [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] Excuse Me? I was told the women can not be tested in DNA. I have question Since you and I (if were a man) are related through the Davies Davenport line and through another line (Tunnell). Here is my question. Would our DNA being that we come from Davenport line and Tunnell . Our DNA together would not work? Would this screw up the testing??? Our two lines did not marry. Just wondering Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven C. Perkins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] Excuse Me? > Whoa, there. That was an example. I happen to come from the Davis > Davenport line so it is the one I am most familiar with. No slight was > intended to anyone else. Please do not ascribe something to me I did not > say. I assume we are all trying to get to the truth about our ancestors. > I don't know the details of everyone's previous relationships vis-a-vis > their documentary research, theories of relationships, etc. > > I'd like to see us use all the resources available to answer the question > of our ancestry. Y DNA seems to be one method not yet used by the > Davenport family which I think we should consider applying to our > research. > > Regards, > > Steven C. Perkins > > > > > > > On 16 Jan 2003 at 11:45, [email protected] wrote: > > Date forwarded: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:46:14 -0700 > Date sent: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:45:59 -0500 (EST) > Forwarded by: [email protected] > From: [email protected] > Subject: [DAVENPORT] Excuse Me? > To: [email protected] > Send reply to: [email protected] > > Mr. Perkins- > You said, in part, "detailed methodical document research being done by > Doc" What are we? Chopped liver? Doc's research, Davis Davenport & Native > American blood, so far, has nothing to do with the research & > documentation being done by Butch, myself and everyone who has > contributed > to the making of our site! We all work very hard, but yet, you want to > credit Doc for that? This board is called "DAVENPORT-L", which to me, is > indicative of ALL Davenport's. But why is it that everyone assumes Doc is > responsible for all that happens here? There is more going on than Doc's > work! I tried to get a Davenport board here for us northerners, rootsweb > said we already had one (here). I think we should get the recognition we > deserve & not be put under Doc! If everyone believes there's no > connection > between southern & northern-- then why is the research all being clumped > together and credit given to Doc alone? > > As far as the Y DNA testing goes, I think it's a great idea. I've > listened > to the arguments from both sides and believe it's time to come to the > bottom of this confusion. I'd like to place my bet on northern & southern > being a part of one! > > I believe Butch stands behind me on this, he usually thinks/feels > similarly....but just sign me.....cuzzin Teri > > http://DavenportFamily.1colony.com > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > For instructions on unsubscribing or searching the list archives visit: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/group.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. > Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ______________________________

Why would knowing that all Davenports stem from a single male ancestor take ANY of the fun out of genealogy? I think that would add tremendously to it. We still won't know who that ancestor is, and so we still have to trace each line back to the first male Davenport. More than likely, there will be clusters, but they won't all be the same. I'd be surprised if the southern Davenports and the New England descendants of Rev. John Davenport are from the same male progenitor. After all, Davenport (Devenport) is a large city in England, and so I suspect that many from that city, when surnames came into style, adopted that surname. It wouldn't be surprising if there were only 2 or 3 different Ys, though. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] Y DNA Testing In a message dated 1/16/2003 9:46:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > But, wouldn't it take away all the fun of > genealogy? > > Terri and others, As I mentioned before, yes, IF all Davenports in the U.S. are perfect matches for each other the fun, challenge, rewards of research would be taken away. But IF they are NOT matches, then it will provide guidance on which lines it is "probably" not likely you will see a return for your genealogy efforts. If you are stuck at a brickwall in the 1700s and spend a great deal of time searching for all records for a particular line "X" of Davenports, and as a result of DNA testing of several representatives of that "X" line and several representatives of your "Y" line, it is determined that you probably have no common ancestor after 1400, then for my money.... All your research efforts on "X" Davenport lines might just have well been spent on a Jones family, in my view. And that is not my definition of "fun" and I would not be "LOL", but "COL" (been there on my Wallers, done that). As I mentioned, that is what happened to one particular Hill family. With respect to Virginia Davenports I think the efforts would be extremely beneficial. Doc and others have neatly separated individual family lines, and (if memory serves) speculated that there may not be/probably isn't a relationship in the U.S. at least. Again, DNA could be used to either prove or disprove this theory. I must confess that I have a strong bias towards everyone being related on surnames with relatively low frequency of occurance. However, our Shelton DNA project would completely support Doc's position on the likely separateness of the early colonial Virginia Davenports, and he has looked at them as closely as the long-time Shelton researchers have studied our lines. We have I think four separate Shelton families in early colonial Virginia. They, like the Davenports, are living in fairly close proximity on the Chesapeake. Then, of all things, branches of three of these lines move into what is now Pittsylvania Co., though again living in their own enclaves. The DNA studies show that they really weren't all the issue of the proverbial "three brothers" (in fact the Shelton DNA study suggests alot of "nonpaternal" events :-). Janet ______________________________

Hi Doc- It just hit me that you might be thinking I hold a grudge or something against you. That IS NOT true, I was just making a point! I have always & will always admire you for all you do. No offense intended.....Teri

Janet: A male can only be tested for his direct male surname line. So the Y DNA test can only test males since we have the Y DNA. A male or female can be tested for the direct maternal line, the Mt DNA. Since the surname of the mother's line changes with each generation, it is more difficult to use for genealogy, but it could be used to see if the direct female line descendants of a number of women who are thought to be sisters, all have the same MtDNA and therefore might be descended from sisters. So testing either of us will not tell us anything about our Davenport or Tunnel lines since males do not pass their Mt DNA to their children. Only females pass on Mt DNA. Hope that helps. later, Steven On 16 Jan 2003 at 12:05, Janet wrote: Date forwarded: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:04:59 -0700 Date sent: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:05:42 -0600 Forwarded by: [email protected] From: Janet <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] Excuse Me? To: [email protected] Send reply to: [email protected] I was told the women can not be tested in DNA. I have question Since you and I (if were a man) are related through the Davies Davenport line and through another line (Tunnell). Here is my question. Would our DNA being that we come from Davenport line and Tunnell . Our DNA together would not work? Would this screw up the testing??? Our two lines did not marry. Just wondering Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven C. Perkins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] Excuse Me? > Whoa, there. That was an example. I happen to come from the Davis > Davenport line so it is the one I am most familiar with. No slight was > intended to anyone else. Please do not ascribe something to me I did > not say. I assume we are all trying to get to the truth about our > ancestors. > I don't know the details of everyone's previous relationships vis-a-vis > their documentary research, theories of relationships, etc. > > I'd like to see us use all the resources available to answer the > question of our ancestry. Y DNA seems to be one method not yet used by > the Davenport family which I think we should consider applying to our > research. > > Regards, > > Steven C. Perkins > > > > > > > On 16 Jan 2003 at 11:45, [email protected] wrote: > > Date forwarded: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:46:14 -0700 > Date sent: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:45:59 -0500 (EST) > Forwarded by: [email protected] > From: [email protected] > Subject: [DAVENPORT] Excuse Me? > To: [email protected] > Send reply to: [email protected] > > Mr. Perkins- > You said, in part, "detailed methodical document research being done by > Doc" What are we? Chopped liver? Doc's research, Davis Davenport & > Native American blood, so far, has nothing to do with the research & > documentation being done by Butch, myself and everyone who has > contributed to the making of our site! We all work very hard, but yet, > you want to credit Doc for that? This board is called "DAVENPORT-L", > which to me, is indicative of ALL Davenport's. But why is it that > everyone assumes Doc is responsible for all that happens here? There is > more going on than Doc's work! I tried to get a Davenport board here for > us northerners, rootsweb said we already had one (here). I think we > should get the recognition we deserve & not be put under Doc! If > everyone believes there's no connection between southern & northern-- > then why is the research all being clumped together and credit given to > Doc alone? > > As far as the Y DNA testing goes, I think it's a great idea. I've > listened > to the arguments from both sides and believe it's time to come to the > bottom of this confusion. I'd like to place my bet on northern & > southern being a part of one! > > I believe Butch stands behind me on this, he usually thinks/feels > similarly....but just sign me.....cuzzin Teri > > http://DavenportFamily.1colony.com > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > For instructions on unsubscribing or searching the list archives visit: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/group.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. > Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. 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Bonnie: In one way, those who have passed on are still with us. If one is a male, then, baring illegitimacy or adoptions, your Y DNA will be the same or mostly the same as your surname ancestor from 1000, 5000, or more years ago. There are random mutations that may change it by 1 to 3 markers. With more than 3 markers difference you are distantly related to someone else, but are not considered related for genealogical purposes. For genealogical purposes we are concerned with relationships within the past 1000 years, the period within which we might be able to find documentation. Females and males can be tested for their matrilineal DNA, the Mt DNA, which shows relationship farther back in time than the Y DNA. It is inherited from your mother's mother's mother, etc., and the surname changes in each generation. In some cultures, it is more difficult to use Mt DNA due to the need to firmly identify female's family names. This is the case for English Protestant families, but less true for Scottish or non-Protestant British families where the wife retains her family name after marriage. So testing you or me will give results that identify our ancestry for possibly thousands of years in the past for our direct male or female line. Which is why in Y DNA studies, the men need to have the surname you are interested in. So while I have Davenport ancestry, testing my Y DNA only tells us about my Perkins ancestry. I hope that helps. Let me know if it just left you confused. The web pages in the previous posts do a much better job of explaining the theory and you should look at them. Regards, Steven C. Perkins On 16 Jan 2003 at 11:21, Bonnie Davenport wrote: Date forwarded: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:16:07 -0700 Date sent: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:21:42 -0600 Forwarded by: [email protected] From: Bonnie Davenport <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] Y DNA Testing To: [email protected] Send reply to: [email protected] Hey Cuz: Are You back with US? If so I'm glad-- if not-- Whats the reason of DNA and how would it be got from the previous Dports that have gone lone ago.? I can see how DNA would tie together now. On the ones that would take part. Paul D IN KC ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:45 AM Subject: [DAVENPORT] Y DNA Testing > Steve & all- > > Yes, we have talked before about doing this Y DNA testing. > It would be great to know what I've always suspected, that all > Davenport's are connected in some way. But, wouldn't it take away all > the fun of genealogy? > > Our indecision is basically based on ignorance. We are not at all > familiar with this process and would need to learn more. > > Thank you for your concern..........cuzzin Teri > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. > Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Whoa, there. That was an example. I happen to come from the Davis Davenport line so it is the one I am most familiar with. No slight was intended to anyone else. Please do not ascribe something to me I did not say. I assume we are all trying to get to the truth about our ancestors. I don't know the details of everyone's previous relationships vis-a-vis their documentary research, theories of relationships, etc. I'd like to see us use all the resources available to answer the question of our ancestry. Y DNA seems to be one method not yet used by the Davenport family which I think we should consider applying to our research. Regards, Steven C. Perkins On 16 Jan 2003 at 11:45, [email protected] wrote: Date forwarded: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:46:14 -0700 Date sent: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:45:59 -0500 (EST) Forwarded by: [email protected] From: [email protected] Subject: [DAVENPORT] Excuse Me? To: [email protected] Send reply to: [email protected] Mr. Perkins- You said, in part, "detailed methodical document research being done by Doc" What are we? Chopped liver? Doc's research, Davis Davenport & Native American blood, so far, has nothing to do with the research & documentation being done by Butch, myself and everyone who has contributed to the making of our site! We all work very hard, but yet, you want to credit Doc for that? This board is called "DAVENPORT-L", which to me, is indicative of ALL Davenport's. But why is it that everyone assumes Doc is responsible for all that happens here? There is more going on than Doc's work! I tried to get a Davenport board here for us northerners, rootsweb said we already had one (here). I think we should get the recognition we deserve & not be put under Doc! If everyone believes there's no connection between southern & northern-- then why is the research all being clumped together and credit given to Doc alone? As far as the Y DNA testing goes, I think it's a great idea. I've listened to the arguments from both sides and believe it's time to come to the bottom of this confusion. I'd like to place my bet on northern & southern being a part of one! I believe Butch stands behind me on this, he usually thinks/feels similarly....but just sign me.....cuzzin Teri http://DavenportFamily.1colony.com ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== For instructions on unsubscribing or searching the list archives visit: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/group.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I was told the women can not be tested in DNA. I have question Since you and I (if were a man) are related through the Davies Davenport line and through another line (Tunnell). Here is my question. Would our DNA being that we come from Davenport line and Tunnell . Our DNA together would not work? Would this screw up the testing??? Our two lines did not marry. Just wondering Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven C. Perkins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] Excuse Me? > Whoa, there. That was an example. I happen to come from the Davis > Davenport line so it is the one I am most familiar with. No slight was > intended to anyone else. Please do not ascribe something to me I did not > say. I assume we are all trying to get to the truth about our ancestors. > I don't know the details of everyone's previous relationships vis-a-vis > their documentary research, theories of relationships, etc. > > I'd like to see us use all the resources available to answer the question > of our ancestry. Y DNA seems to be one method not yet used by the > Davenport family which I think we should consider applying to our > research. > > Regards, > > Steven C. Perkins > > > > > > > On 16 Jan 2003 at 11:45, [email protected] wrote: > > Date forwarded: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:46:14 -0700 > Date sent: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:45:59 -0500 (EST) > Forwarded by: [email protected] > From: [email protected] > Subject: [DAVENPORT] Excuse Me? > To: [email protected] > Send reply to: [email protected] > > Mr. Perkins- > You said, in part, "detailed methodical document research being done by > Doc" What are we? Chopped liver? Doc's research, Davis Davenport & Native > American blood, so far, has nothing to do with the research & > documentation being done by Butch, myself and everyone who has > contributed > to the making of our site! We all work very hard, but yet, you want to > credit Doc for that? This board is called "DAVENPORT-L", which to me, is > indicative of ALL Davenport's. But why is it that everyone assumes Doc is > responsible for all that happens here? There is more going on than Doc's > work! I tried to get a Davenport board here for us northerners, rootsweb > said we already had one (here). I think we should get the recognition we > deserve & not be put under Doc! If everyone believes there's no > connection > between southern & northern-- then why is the research all being clumped > together and credit given to Doc alone? > > As far as the Y DNA testing goes, I think it's a great idea. I've > listened > to the arguments from both sides and believe it's time to come to the > bottom of this confusion. I'd like to place my bet on northern & southern > being a part of one! > > I believe Butch stands behind me on this, he usually thinks/feels > similarly....but just sign me.....cuzzin Teri > > http://DavenportFamily.1colony.com > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > For instructions on unsubscribing or searching the list archives visit: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/group.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. > Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Mr. Perkins- You said, in part, "detailed methodical document research being done by Doc" What are we? Chopped liver? Doc's research, Davis Davenport & Native American blood, so far, has nothing to do with the research & documentation being done by Butch, myself and everyone who has contributed to the making of our site! We all work very hard, but yet, you want to credit Doc for that? This board is called "DAVENPORT-L", which to me, is indicative of ALL Davenport's. But why is it that everyone assumes Doc is responsible for all that happens here? There is more going on than Doc's work! I tried to get a Davenport board here for us northerners, rootsweb said we already had one (here). I think we should get the recognition we deserve & not be put under Doc! If everyone believes there's no connection between southern & northern-- then why is the research all being clumped together and credit given to Doc alone? As far as the Y DNA testing goes, I think it's a great idea. I've listened to the arguments from both sides and believe it's time to come to the bottom of this confusion. I'd like to place my bet on northern & southern being a part of one! I believe Butch stands behind me on this, he usually thinks/feels similarly....but just sign me.....cuzzin Teri http://DavenportFamily.1colony.com

Hey Cuz: Are You back with US? If so I'm glad-- if not-- Whats the reason of DNA and how would it be got from the previous Dports that have gone lone ago.? I can see how DNA would tie together now. On the ones that would take part. Paul D IN KC ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:45 AM Subject: [DAVENPORT] Y DNA Testing > Steve & all- > > Yes, we have talked before about doing this Y DNA testing. > It would be great to know what I've always suspected, that all Davenport's > are connected in some way. But, wouldn't it take away all the fun of > genealogy? > > Our indecision is basically based on ignorance. We are not at all familiar > with this process and would need to learn more. > > Thank you for your concern..........cuzzin Teri > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. > Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Teri: Thanks for your reply. I'm with Janet on this. When I started research everyone said my line from Edward Perkins was related to John Perkins of Ipswich who is considered to descend from Peter Morley alia Perkins, seneshal to Hugh Despenser. This latter can be documented. I could never find any evidence of this relationship. One researcher went so far as to show 16 different Perkins lines connected. We are now finding that several lines in MA, NH, MD and DE are connected to John Perkins, but my line is not. I spent lots of time and money searching the wrong line. That is NOT my idea of fun. I want to use all the resources at my disposal to learn the truth of my ancestry. Y DNA is a new tool that can answer lots of questions and can help us know which lines to research. In the case of Davis Davenport, it could tell us if he is of Native American ancestry or related to one of the other Davenport families of the North or South. We have to remember that there was lots of travel up and down the east coast in colonial times. The Pomeroy family has done a similar study where there was a central family, like Orme Davenport, that others were thought to be related to. See, Chris Pomery's pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~allpoms/geneticsportal.htm I think the cost of the tests is minimal in relation to the time and money it can save us in our research. I think there is sufficient FUN left in learning about my real ancestors rather than chasing after the wrong people. For information on the Y DNA tests for men or the MtDNA tests for women and men, see, http://www.ftdna.com or http://www.oxfordancestors.com or http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~allpoms/genetics1b.html Even more information is available at his DNA Portal page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~allpoms/genetics.html I believe there is a real opportunity to learn more about the Davenport families if we use DNA testing in combination with the type of detailed methodical document research being done by Doc. Regards, Steven C. Perkins On 16 Jan 2003 at 9:45, [email protected] wrote: Date forwarded: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:45:36 -0700 Date sent: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:45:31 -0500 (EST) Forwarded by: [email protected] From: [email protected] Subject: [DAVENPORT] Y DNA Testing To: [email protected] Send reply to: [email protected] Steve & all- Yes, we have talked before about doing this Y DNA testing. It would be great to know what I've always suspected, that all Davenport's are connected in some way. But, wouldn't it take away all the fun of genealogy? Our indecision is basically based on ignorance. We are not at all familiar with this process and would need to learn more. Thank you for your concern..........cuzzin Teri ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

In a message dated 1/16/2003 9:46:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > But, wouldn't it take away all the fun of > genealogy? > > Terri and others, As I mentioned before, yes, IF all Davenports in the U.S. are perfect matches for each other the fun, challenge, rewards of research would be taken away. But IF they are NOT matches, then it will provide guidance on which lines it is "probably" not likely you will see a return for your genealogy efforts. If you are stuck at a brickwall in the 1700s and spend a great deal of time searching for all records for a particular line "X" of Davenports, and as a result of DNA testing of several representatives of that "X" line and several representatives of your "Y" line, it is determined that you probably have no common ancestor after 1400, then for my money.... All your research efforts on "X" Davenport lines might just have well been spent on a Jones family, in my view. And that is not my definition of "fun" and I would not be "LOL", but "COL" (been there on my Wallers, done that). As I mentioned, that is what happened to one particular Hill family. With respect to Virginia Davenports I think the efforts would be extremely beneficial. Doc and others have neatly separated individual family lines, and (if memory serves) speculated that there may not be/probably isn't a relationship in the U.S. at least. Again, DNA could be used to either prove or disprove this theory. I must confess that I have a strong bias towards everyone being related on surnames with relatively low frequency of occurance. However, our Shelton DNA project would completely support Doc's position on the likely separateness of the early colonial Virginia Davenports, and he has looked at them as closely as the long-time Shelton researchers have studied our lines. We have I think four separate Shelton families in early colonial Virginia. They, like the Davenports, are living in fairly close proximity on the Chesapeake. Then, of all things, branches of three of these lines move into what is now Pittsylvania Co., though again living in their own enclaves. The DNA studies show that they really weren't all the issue of the proverbial "three brothers" (in fact the Shelton DNA study suggests alot of "nonpaternal" events :-). Janet

Steve & all- Yes, we have talked before about doing this Y DNA testing. It would be great to know what I've always suspected, that all Davenport's are connected in some way. But, wouldn't it take away all the fun of genealogy? Our indecision is basically based on ignorance. We are not at all familiar with this process and would need to learn more. Thank you for your concern..........cuzzin Teri

Doc, No, I think I will leave Sarah (Boyd) Davenport Barnes alone. I agree with you. I have other things to do too. Jane Kyhl Beekman

Glenora- Thank you very much for the info that after a search by your daughter, it seems my site expired on Jan 7th. What kind of search are you talking about & how can I do it? In this case, exactly what does "expired" mean? When I obtained the site, nothing was ever mentioned about an expiration date! Did she also do a search on my Davenport Allied Surnames site (cuzzinconnection.host12.com)? Wondering because that site too disappeared. Thank you for your help..........cuzzin Teri

Thanks, Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "johnpeacock" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] DavenportAncestors Site Down > I surmise that you use rewriteable CDs? > > Adkinscc wrote: > > > > To backup your family file to a CD in FTM follow these instructions: > > > > 1. Go to File ; Back up family file > > > > 2. Choose last option in list custome directory > > > > 3. Choose change file name or directory > > > > 4. Pick the drive for your CD burner and then name your back up file. > > > > 5. Your FTM file will back up to the CD. > > > > Pretty simple once you have done it a time or two. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Carrie > > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > > The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. > > Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > For instructions on unsubscribing or searching the list archives visit: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/group.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Jane, Nice to hear from another Boyd descendant. I have little to add to what John Scott has put out on the subject of Sarah Boyd. I haven't pursued much on the Boyd's other than to collect information dug out by others. I have worked over Boone County, Indiana pretty hard piecing together the Davenports, Lowes and Jones families who immigrated there in the early 1830's. I am also working on Johnson County, Indiana chasing down Davenports and Hensleys. I see that William Boyd made his way into the DAR and Boyd descendants have posted their link to him for membership. I would like to find out more on the Boyd connections. I have limited my research to periods after 1800 because I am fairly new at this and I don't have good access to documents to dig through. I definitely plan to work over the Boyd family and their connection in Indiana. My lines come down through Sarah Boyd's sons William and Jesse. Second cousins married again. If I discover anything new I will keep you in mind. Willard Anderson Cloverdale, Oregon