this is inregaurd to do some lie.I have found in only a few instances where some have smudged the age factor,but only in talking with relatives still alive and co-herent/non-alzehiemer,has it been,true or un-true . The best way to tell is to do the math with the birth dates,if they are known.while most of you probably already know this,you will probably call me a kook.but i have also found that if you add or sub. five yrs. you can come real close. Sincerly, Capt. T.R.Davenport of P.A.
Are you by any chance related to the William T. Davenport group from Marion Co. Ark? If so I am also. Mary
In a message dated 1/21/2003 9:37:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > For some individuals (ie, me with a > bastard great grandfather), getting a match in a surname study would be > "success" (since the father and family have "supposedly" been identified). > > Sorry...I should have said that my "bastard" great grandfather Hugh LawsonWhite Hill was NOT a Davenport. I'm sure that there were no nonpaternal events amongst the Davenports!! (At least you all haven't told any good stories about wayward ancestors on this list...How they ever married in with my children's paternal Hunters I'll never know! Janet Hunter
In a message dated 1/21/2003 8:46:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Glenora: > > Could you give us some idea of what you mean by "the relatively low rate > of success."? I'm curious as to what was being sought that, not being > found, lead to that conclusion. > > I too noticed Glenora's comments. I have encountered similar comments on a couple of other surnames and the dissatisfaction stems from folks who either (a) submitted DNA free at the LDS sponsored collection sites back when?? 1998/9? or (b) folks who have submitted their DNA to a lab, but not in the context of a surname study. Since we are talking about a surname study "rate of success" is a misnomer. Success in this instance would mean getting a sufficiently large sample of Davenport samples from various lines to determine if there are groupings that delineate different ancestry. For some individuals (ie, me with a bastard great grandfather), getting a match in a surname study would be "success" (since the father and family have "supposedly" been identified). It is also a success if we find hypothetical Joe Davenport in Michigan matching up with hypothethical Isaac Davenport in Botetourt Co. VA. (FYI, I have a Greene Co. TN line that made such a switch around 1840.) There is broad agreement that if you want to link up with specific ancestors in identifiable places then submitting your DNA sample to a lab has a probable low rate of success. Those are my thoughts. I was considering submitting my mtDNA sample to a lab because I was "told" that my direct "Haley" mother, mother, etc. line was a Choctaw Indian...Well, I've traced her back to ANson Co NC and then up...yep you guessed it to the Haleys/Matlocks/Clarks of Louisa Co. I can't remember if the Davenport or allied lines are involved (of course the Wash family is). So for the moment I am not dropping $200.00 for what looks to be a very low success rate in finding that I have the DNA pattern for Indian ancestry. Janet Hunter
I really wish I knew......cuzzin Teri
Glenora: Could you give us some idea of what you mean by "the relatively low rate of success."? I'm curious as to what was being sought that, not being found, lead to that conclusion. Y DNA is not a substitute for paternity tests, and it can't tell you the exact relationship between two people who have a perfect match on their Y DNA signature. It can tell you if you are or are not related to someone of the same surname, and it can tell you the ethnic background of your direct male line ancestor. So, we can use it to see if any of the Northern and Southern Davenport fanilies are related and, assuming we can determine his Y DNA signature, we can determine if Davis Davenport was of male Native American or African or Caucasian ancestry. Regards, Steven C. Perkins On 20 Jan 2003 at 19:19, Glenora Chamberlin wrote: --SNIP-- Hello Bill, As I told Steve when he emailed me privately, my intent was not to say anything against anyone personally. I also replied *Companies who operate that way are especially of concern. It was just a suggestion that people do some research on where they put their money and information*. I know someone who has been through the testing for genealogy, and have read a good deal about it. I am neither for or opposed to the idea, but there is much to consider, including the relatively low rate of success. Glenora
Paul & All (I'm a poet on the side) There will be ABSOLUTELY NO CHARGE to visitors....EVER!!!!!!! The DavenportAncestors staff is funding the site. The only thing y'all need to do is enjoy yourself and send your Davenport family line to us (if you'd like)......cuzzin Teri
hope this is useful to someone found on Rootsweb, Onandaga County, NY while working on another line: Members of First Baptist Church, Pompey, Onandaga Cty. NY: Davenport, John baptised 1817 , Rhoda bapt. 1817 , Azuela bapt. Apr. 1820 I did not find any other mention of Davenports. I did not find a Job. Note: Onandaga Cty is adjoined on the east by Madison County. Julie Shepherd... looking for parents of William D. (Will) Davenport, m. Lucinda Draper 1831Caldwell County, KY...then to Christian/Todd Cty, Ky...then to Johnson Cty, MO. Suspect that family came from Louisa, VA.
Where in southern missouri, i am in northern arkansas very close to southern missouri, in fact i work in southern missouri. My clan of Davenports came to northern arkansas right before and during the civil war. They are a very large family in Marion, Searcy Counties in North Central Arkansas . Phil Woods , descendant of Davis Davenport of Va ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie Davenport" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] Curiosity > Hey -- You ALL: > (thats Missouri talk) I got news for You There is a place in S. Missouri > that used to be called Davenport Hollow. Where a large band of Davenports > lived. > Story I heard was there was one large bunch that were religous and one group > of outlaws like -- some were brothers. But and -So they went dif ways -- > lot of them stayed in Missory and are still a lot of both related clans here > now. Paul > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "francis davenport" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:44 PM > Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] Curiosity > > > > There probably is no one place called Davenport. The name in an early > form > > dates, so it's been explained to me, to about the 9th century, when the > > Danelaw was in effect. > > > > Remember that after Roman rule ended, around the 4th-5th century, the > island > > of Britain received a steady stream of invaders, mostly Teutons like the > > Angles and the Saxons. These tribes at first fought like cat and dog, but > > in time they settled down, intermarried, sat around swilling mead and > > reciting Beowulf, and thus established the Anglo-Saxon civilization. All > > went well till about the 8th century, when a new wave of Nordic invaders > > hit - Danes, aka the Vikings. These fellows were serious about conquest, > > not intermarriage (they had other plans for the women). The Anglo-Saxons > > put up a brave fight, but the Danes came close to conquering them. In the > > end, though, the Anglo-Saxon king Alfred - the only monarch whom the > English > > have ever named "The Great" - fought the Danes to a standstill. The > result > > was an armistice in which southern England was divided, with fairly free > > civil and trade relations between the Danish and Anglo-Saxon zones. The > > inter-zonal boundary line was a navigable river, which the Anglo-Saxons > > called the Dane, and the Danish zone became known as the Danelaw. In time > a > > Dane-Harbor came to mean a trading port along the Dane river, or a trading > > boat or a trader, and when names were being handed out, it was inevitable > > some people would receive this word as their name. The syllable "port" is > > clearly French, so our name in its present form must not have evolved > until > > after the Norman conquest. By that time the river had probably gone dry, > > and the Danes and Anglo-Saxons had long since intermarried (the women > proved > > smarter). In due course they absorbed the Normans as well, creating > > Churchill's race of Englishmen. > > > > How much of this is right? Don't know, I've never researched any of it > > independently, but it sounds plausible. If you want to look for some sort > > of epicenter, I'd start with Nottinghamshire. My uncle was stationed > there > > in WWII and said the name was commoner than Smith. Good luck. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Winifred Auch" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:24 PM > > Subject: [DAVENPORT] Curiosity > > > > > > > Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] > > > >Just can't go on not knowing where in England we find > > Davenport/Devenport. > > > > > > > > > Not in my world atlas. Not in my encyclopedia. > > > > > > Some one. Oh please come to my rescue. Which shire is it > > > in?<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > > > Cliff, > > > > > > 8Davenport* is a small village near Congleton In the county of > > > **Cheshire**. Look at your atlas - if you can't find Congleton, it > is > > > just south of Macclesfield.- > > > > > > This is the area where most of the Davenport originate from; iow, it > > was > > > the land in Cheshire which was given to his knight by William the > > > Conqueror. Over the years many of the lines spread over into > Derbyshire > > > and other nearby counties.- > > > > > > This is not to be confused with the Plymouth/Devonport in Devonshire. > > > I believe that the part of Plymouth called Devonport gets its name from > > > the fact that it IS a port in the county of Devon. > > > Hence the name "Devonport"! > > > > > > There are very few Davenport in Devonshire - I know, because I lived > > > there for 8 years. My father Charles Harold Davenport was born in > > Exeter, > > > Devon but HIS father came from Derbyshire.- > > > Below is a part of a piece I found in the UK Yahoo, mentioning the > > village > > > of Davenport:- > > > > > > <<<<<There are preserved in the strong room in Congleton Town Hall some > > 121 > > > charters and assorted documents. Eighty-one were written before 1500. > Ten > > > or so relate to various places in North Wales (Hawarden), Staffordshire > > > (Kings Bromley, Longsdon, Lichfield), and Cheshire (Chester, Hough, > > > Macclesfield, Old Rode, Rope, Stapley, Upton, Wickmalban, Wightreston, > > > Willaston), but most are concerned with properties in Congleton itself. > > > > > > Although for convenience I have characterized the collection as > charters, > > > in reality there are a number of different types of document. The oldest > > > firmly dated item of c.1272 is a charter of Henry de Lacy granting the > men > > > of Congleton burgage tenure (the holding of their land by a money rent > > > rather than by personal service) and the right to elect a mayor. There > are > > > several other documents outlining the privileges of the lord and his > > > burgesses of various dates as well as a return to Quo Warranto > proceedings > > > touching the liberties of the lord of Halton in the early fourteenth > > > century. There are simple charters granting land, numerous chirographs > and > > > indentures (both, broadly, agreements of one kind or another), two > wills, > > > and Letters Patent granting the right to build a mill after the floods > of > > > 1451. Finally, there are miscellaneous items like plans for the > > > construction of a gallery in the upper chapel of the early eighteenth > > > century and a mortgage of the nineteenth. > > > > > > The collection is what is left of the borough of Congletons muniments. A > > > fire destroyed many of its records, but what survived were mounted and > > > restored by the Bodley Library in Oxford and, interleaved with a > > > translation by the Rev. Jonathan Wilson, the school master of Congleton, > > > bound in three volumes. A fourth volume containing four Congleton > charters > > > of the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries was given to the town by James > > > Bradwell in the late nineteenth century. > > > > > > By 1272 Congleton was probably already an urban community of long > > standing. > > > Its origins as a trading centre are to be found in the now **depopulated > > > village of Davenport ** .............................<<<< > > > > > > Wynne > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > > > The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. > > > Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > > The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are now available on CD. > > Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. > Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
Hey Cuz: Does this mean that its gonna cost when You get on line? Cuz Paul D In KC ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]tsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:59 AM Subject: [DAVENPORT] Site Driving Me Crazy!!! > > Hi all- > I'm getting really frustrated...I want so bad to put the 32 generations of > Orme de Davenport on the site for all to enjoy. But, I'm having nothing but > trouble. I put them on Custom & Custom 2 pages and get a 674 error. I deleted > the pages, the re-added them & got the same thing. So, then I deleted Custom & > Custom 2 again...then put Orme's people on, same problem...674 error, > whatever that means! > Anyway, Butch & I are tired of messing with these fly by night hosts who do > not supply tech support if it's a free site. We got a paid site that is > awesome. I'm building it as we speak & it won't be long til opening. This > will be the permanent home of our DavenportAncestors. In the meantime, if you > have any questions regarding Davenport people, please feel free to email me. > Thank you......cuzzin Teri > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > For instructions on unsubscribing or searching the list archives visit: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/group.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Hi to the LIST...:) I'm looking for info. on John Hiram Kickland. I have him born in Osage City, Kansas. Also his wife was Nancy Loraine Davenport. There daughter was Nancy Evelyn Kickland b- 1886, and died in Dallas TX. This daughter was married to Marvin Lee Hamlin, also b- 1886 Can anyone help on this people? Thanks so much, Emma Ayles
Marchetta......I doubt that this helps, but my wife's family had a Elizabeth Electra Sanders [nee Seals] born 1876 in Alabama. Her husband Sanders died in 1910. She was always called Lizzie and had two Sanders children. We believe her original home was in S. Carolina. Sanders was a very common name. Bob Davenport ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 5:54 PM Subject: [DAVENPORT] John Edward Davenport > I am searching for information on John Edward Davenport. The only > information I have is he married Elizabeth Catherine Sanders on January 22nd > 1906, in Walker Co, Ga. Elizabeth's name has also been listed as Lizzie or > Lizie Sanders. > John and Elizabeth had four children. > > I have information on the children, I have not been able to obtain any > information on John's parents and grandparents. > The four children have all past away. > Any help I would be very greatful. > > Marchetta > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. > Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Would somebody noow break down and explainn just what a 674 error is? Herzlichen Dank! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 12:59 PM Subject: [DAVENPORT] Site Driving Me Crazy!!! > > Hi all- > I'm getting really frustrated...I want so bad to put the 32 generations of > Orme de Davenport on the site for all to enjoy. But, I'm having nothing but > trouble. I put them on Custom & Custom 2 pages and get a 674 error. I deleted > the pages, the re-added them & got the same thing. So, then I deleted Custom & > Custom 2 again...then put Orme's people on, same problem...674 error, > whatever that means! > Anyway, Butch & I are tired of messing with these fly by night hosts who do > not supply tech support if it's a free site. We got a paid site that is > awesome. I'm building it as we speak & it won't be long til opening. This > will be the permanent home of our DavenportAncestors. In the meantime, if you > have any questions regarding Davenport people, please feel free to email me. > Thank you......cuzzin Teri > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > For instructions on unsubscribing or searching the list archives visit: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/group.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Hi all- I'm getting really frustrated...I want so bad to put the 32 generations of Orme de Davenport on the site for all to enjoy. But, I'm having nothing but trouble. I put them on Custom & Custom 2 pages and get a 674 error. I deleted the pages, the re-added them & got the same thing. So, then I deleted Custom & Custom 2 again...then put Orme's people on, same problem...674 error, whatever that means! Anyway, Butch & I are tired of messing with these fly by night hosts who do not supply tech support if it's a free site. We got a paid site that is awesome. I'm building it as we speak & it won't be long til opening. This will be the permanent home of our DavenportAncestors. In the meantime, if you have any questions regarding Davenport people, please feel free to email me. Thank you......cuzzin Teri
Hey -- You ALL: (thats Missouri talk) I got news for You There is a place in S. Missouri that used to be called Davenport Hollow. Where a large band of Davenports lived. Story I heard was there was one large bunch that were religous and one group of outlaws like -- some were brothers. But and -So they went dif ways -- lot of them stayed in Missory and are still a lot of both related clans here now. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "francis davenport" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] Curiosity > There probably is no one place called Davenport. The name in an early form > dates, so it's been explained to me, to about the 9th century, when the > Danelaw was in effect. > > Remember that after Roman rule ended, around the 4th-5th century, the island > of Britain received a steady stream of invaders, mostly Teutons like the > Angles and the Saxons. These tribes at first fought like cat and dog, but > in time they settled down, intermarried, sat around swilling mead and > reciting Beowulf, and thus established the Anglo-Saxon civilization. All > went well till about the 8th century, when a new wave of Nordic invaders > hit - Danes, aka the Vikings. These fellows were serious about conquest, > not intermarriage (they had other plans for the women). The Anglo-Saxons > put up a brave fight, but the Danes came close to conquering them. In the > end, though, the Anglo-Saxon king Alfred - the only monarch whom the English > have ever named "The Great" - fought the Danes to a standstill. The result > was an armistice in which southern England was divided, with fairly free > civil and trade relations between the Danish and Anglo-Saxon zones. The > inter-zonal boundary line was a navigable river, which the Anglo-Saxons > called the Dane, and the Danish zone became known as the Danelaw. In time a > Dane-Harbor came to mean a trading port along the Dane river, or a trading > boat or a trader, and when names were being handed out, it was inevitable > some people would receive this word as their name. The syllable "port" is > clearly French, so our name in its present form must not have evolved until > after the Norman conquest. By that time the river had probably gone dry, > and the Danes and Anglo-Saxons had long since intermarried (the women proved > smarter). In due course they absorbed the Normans as well, creating > Churchill's race of Englishmen. > > How much of this is right? Don't know, I've never researched any of it > independently, but it sounds plausible. If you want to look for some sort > of epicenter, I'd start with Nottinghamshire. My uncle was stationed there > in WWII and said the name was commoner than Smith. Good luck. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Winifred Auch" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:24 PM > Subject: [DAVENPORT] Curiosity > > > > Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] > > >Just can't go on not knowing where in England we find > Davenport/Devenport. > > > > > > Not in my world atlas. Not in my encyclopedia. > > > > Some one. Oh please come to my rescue. Which shire is it > > in?<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > Cliff, > > > > 8Davenport* is a small village near Congleton In the county of > > **Cheshire**. Look at your atlas - if you can't find Congleton, it is > > just south of Macclesfield.- > > > > This is the area where most of the Davenport originate from; iow, it > was > > the land in Cheshire which was given to his knight by William the > > Conqueror. Over the years many of the lines spread over into Derbyshire > > and other nearby counties.- > > > > This is not to be confused with the Plymouth/Devonport in Devonshire. > > I believe that the part of Plymouth called Devonport gets its name from > > the fact that it IS a port in the county of Devon. > > Hence the name "Devonport"! > > > > There are very few Davenport in Devonshire - I know, because I lived > > there for 8 years. My father Charles Harold Davenport was born in > Exeter, > > Devon but HIS father came from Derbyshire.- > > Below is a part of a piece I found in the UK Yahoo, mentioning the > village > > of Davenport:- > > > > <<<<<There are preserved in the strong room in Congleton Town Hall some > 121 > > charters and assorted documents. Eighty-one were written before 1500. Ten > > or so relate to various places in North Wales (Hawarden), Staffordshire > > (Kings Bromley, Longsdon, Lichfield), and Cheshire (Chester, Hough, > > Macclesfield, Old Rode, Rope, Stapley, Upton, Wickmalban, Wightreston, > > Willaston), but most are concerned with properties in Congleton itself. > > > > Although for convenience I have characterized the collection as charters, > > in reality there are a number of different types of document. The oldest > > firmly dated item of c.1272 is a charter of Henry de Lacy granting the men > > of Congleton burgage tenure (the holding of their land by a money rent > > rather than by personal service) and the right to elect a mayor. There are > > several other documents outlining the privileges of the lord and his > > burgesses of various dates as well as a return to Quo Warranto proceedings > > touching the liberties of the lord of Halton in the early fourteenth > > century. There are simple charters granting land, numerous chirographs and > > indentures (both, broadly, agreements of one kind or another), two wills, > > and Letters Patent granting the right to build a mill after the floods of > > 1451. Finally, there are miscellaneous items like plans for the > > construction of a gallery in the upper chapel of the early eighteenth > > century and a mortgage of the nineteenth. > > > > The collection is what is left of the borough of Congletons muniments. A > > fire destroyed many of its records, but what survived were mounted and > > restored by the Bodley Library in Oxford and, interleaved with a > > translation by the Rev. Jonathan Wilson, the school master of Congleton, > > bound in three volumes. A fourth volume containing four Congleton charters > > of the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries was given to the town by James > > Bradwell in the late nineteenth century. > > > > By 1272 Congleton was probably already an urban community of long > standing. > > Its origins as a trading centre are to be found in the now **depopulated > > village of Davenport ** .............................<<<< > > > > Wynne > > > > > > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > > The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. > > Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are now available on CD. > Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Marchetta: In about 1858 We had a John and Elizabeth Davenport in NC. They had a bunch of kids and went to Ten-- Ill-to Missouri. One of the sons was named Absolam B who was My GGrandfather. He was wounded in CW Battle -Parkers Cross Road. One of their Dau was Nancy who is related to [email protected] . I think they had a dau Catherine also. Seems to be lots of Johns and some Absolams and dif spelling of it and Henry -- You have any info ? Paul D ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 7:54 PM Subject: [DAVENPORT] John Edward Davenport > I am searching for information on John Edward Davenport. The only > information I have is he married Elizabeth Catherine Sanders on January 22nd > 1906, in Walker Co, Ga. Elizabeth's name has also been listed as Lizzie or > Lizie Sanders. > John and Elizabeth had four children. > > I have information on the children, I have not been able to obtain any > information on John's parents and grandparents. > The four children have all past away. > Any help I would be very greatful. > > Marchetta > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. > Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
There probably is no one place called Davenport. The name in an early form dates, so it's been explained to me, to about the 9th century, when the Danelaw was in effect. Remember that after Roman rule ended, around the 4th-5th century, the island of Britain received a steady stream of invaders, mostly Teutons like the Angles and the Saxons. These tribes at first fought like cat and dog, but in time they settled down, intermarried, sat around swilling mead and reciting Beowulf, and thus established the Anglo-Saxon civilization. All went well till about the 8th century, when a new wave of Nordic invaders hit - Danes, aka the Vikings. These fellows were serious about conquest, not intermarriage (they had other plans for the women). The Anglo-Saxons put up a brave fight, but the Danes came close to conquering them. In the end, though, the Anglo-Saxon king Alfred - the only monarch whom the English have ever named "The Great" - fought the Danes to a standstill. The result was an armistice in which southern England was divided, with fairly free civil and trade relations between the Danish and Anglo-Saxon zones. The inter-zonal boundary line was a navigable river, which the Anglo-Saxons called the Dane, and the Danish zone became known as the Danelaw. In time a Dane-Harbor came to mean a trading port along the Dane river, or a trading boat or a trader, and when names were being handed out, it was inevitable some people would receive this word as their name. The syllable "port" is clearly French, so our name in its present form must not have evolved until after the Norman conquest. By that time the river had probably gone dry, and the Danes and Anglo-Saxons had long since intermarried (the women proved smarter). In due course they absorbed the Normans as well, creating Churchill's race of Englishmen. How much of this is right? Don't know, I've never researched any of it independently, but it sounds plausible. If you want to look for some sort of epicenter, I'd start with Nottinghamshire. My uncle was stationed there in WWII and said the name was commoner than Smith. Good luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Winifred Auch" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:24 PM Subject: [DAVENPORT] Curiosity > Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] > >Just can't go on not knowing where in England we find Davenport/Devenport. > > > Not in my world atlas. Not in my encyclopedia. > > Some one. Oh please come to my rescue. Which shire is it > in?<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > Cliff, > > 8Davenport* is a small village near Congleton In the county of > **Cheshire**. Look at your atlas - if you can't find Congleton, it is > just south of Macclesfield.- > > This is the area where most of the Davenport originate from; iow, it was > the land in Cheshire which was given to his knight by William the > Conqueror. Over the years many of the lines spread over into Derbyshire > and other nearby counties.- > > This is not to be confused with the Plymouth/Devonport in Devonshire. > I believe that the part of Plymouth called Devonport gets its name from > the fact that it IS a port in the county of Devon. > Hence the name "Devonport"! > > There are very few Davenport in Devonshire - I know, because I lived > there for 8 years. My father Charles Harold Davenport was born in Exeter, > Devon but HIS father came from Derbyshire.- > Below is a part of a piece I found in the UK Yahoo, mentioning the village > of Davenport:- > > <<<<<There are preserved in the strong room in Congleton Town Hall some 121 > charters and assorted documents. Eighty-one were written before 1500. Ten > or so relate to various places in North Wales (Hawarden), Staffordshire > (Kings Bromley, Longsdon, Lichfield), and Cheshire (Chester, Hough, > Macclesfield, Old Rode, Rope, Stapley, Upton, Wickmalban, Wightreston, > Willaston), but most are concerned with properties in Congleton itself. > > Although for convenience I have characterized the collection as charters, > in reality there are a number of different types of document. The oldest > firmly dated item of c.1272 is a charter of Henry de Lacy granting the men > of Congleton burgage tenure (the holding of their land by a money rent > rather than by personal service) and the right to elect a mayor. There are > several other documents outlining the privileges of the lord and his > burgesses of various dates as well as a return to Quo Warranto proceedings > touching the liberties of the lord of Halton in the early fourteenth > century. There are simple charters granting land, numerous chirographs and > indentures (both, broadly, agreements of one kind or another), two wills, > and Letters Patent granting the right to build a mill after the floods of > 1451. Finally, there are miscellaneous items like plans for the > construction of a gallery in the upper chapel of the early eighteenth > century and a mortgage of the nineteenth. > > The collection is what is left of the borough of Congletons muniments. A > fire destroyed many of its records, but what survived were mounted and > restored by the Bodley Library in Oxford and, interleaved with a > translation by the Rev. Jonathan Wilson, the school master of Congleton, > bound in three volumes. A fourth volume containing four Congleton charters > of the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries was given to the town by James > Bradwell in the late nineteenth century. > > By 1272 Congleton was probably already an urban community of long standing. > Its origins as a trading centre are to be found in the now **depopulated > village of Davenport ** .............................<<<< > > Wynne > > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. > Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] >Just can't go on not knowing where in England we find Davenport/Devenport. Not in my world atlas. Not in my encyclopedia. Some one. Oh please come to my rescue. Which shire is it in?<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Cliff, 8Davenport* is a small village near Congleton In the county of **Cheshire**. Look at your atlas - if you can't find Congleton, it is just south of Macclesfield.- This is the area where most of the Davenport originate from; iow, it was the land in Cheshire which was given to his knight by William the Conqueror. Over the years many of the lines spread over into Derbyshire and other nearby counties.- This is not to be confused with the Plymouth/Devonport in Devonshire. I believe that the part of Plymouth called Devonport gets its name from the fact that it IS a port in the county of Devon. Hence the name "Devonport"! There are very few Davenport in Devonshire - I know, because I lived there for 8 years. My father Charles Harold Davenport was born in Exeter, Devon but HIS father came from Derbyshire.- Below is a part of a piece I found in the UK Yahoo, mentioning the village of Davenport:- <<<<<There are preserved in the strong room in Congleton Town Hall some 121 charters and assorted documents. Eighty-one were written before 1500. Ten or so relate to various places in North Wales (Hawarden), Staffordshire (Kings Bromley, Longsdon, Lichfield), and Cheshire (Chester, Hough, Macclesfield, Old Rode, Rope, Stapley, Upton, Wickmalban, Wightreston, Willaston), but most are concerned with properties in Congleton itself. Although for convenience I have characterized the collection as charters, in reality there are a number of different types of document. The oldest firmly dated item of c.1272 is a charter of Henry de Lacy granting the men of Congleton burgage tenure (the holding of their land by a money rent rather than by personal service) and the right to elect a mayor. There are several other documents outlining the privileges of the lord and his burgesses of various dates as well as a return to Quo Warranto proceedings touching the liberties of the lord of Halton in the early fourteenth century. There are simple charters granting land, numerous chirographs and indentures (both, broadly, agreements of one kind or another), two wills, and Letters Patent granting the right to build a mill after the floods of 1451. Finally, there are miscellaneous items like plans for the construction of a gallery in the upper chapel of the early eighteenth century and a mortgage of the nineteenth. The collection is what is left of the borough of Congletons muniments. A fire destroyed many of its records, but what survived were mounted and restored by the Bodley Library in Oxford and, interleaved with a translation by the Rev. Jonathan Wilson, the school master of Congleton, bound in three volumes. A fourth volume containing four Congleton charters of the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries was given to the town by James Bradwell in the late nineteenth century. By 1272 Congleton was probably already an urban community of long standing. Its origins as a trading centre are to be found in the now **depopulated village of Davenport ** .............................<<<< Wynne
For those of you interested in DNA and genealogy, PBS will be airing a program entitled, "The Journey of Man" tomorrow evening, in most areas, at 8:00 PM CST. Dr. Spencer Wells, who has been involved with DNA and genealogy, will host this program. I cannot give you a synopsis of the content, as I have not seen one, but it may be something interesting. Take from email sent by Bill, coordinator of Western KY page. Elaine Kidd O'Leary http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctbiog CT Biographies Project Co-Ordinator RAOGK volunteer for Hartford Co, CT FHC volunteer - Bloomfield, CT
I am searching for information on John Edward Davenport. The only information I have is he married Elizabeth Catherine Sanders on January 22nd 1906, in Walker Co, Ga. Elizabeth's name has also been listed as Lizzie or Lizie Sanders. John and Elizabeth had four children. I have information on the children, I have not been able to obtain any information on John's parents and grandparents. The four children have all past away. Any help I would be very greatful. Marchetta