Hey Cuz T. J. You are the GREATEST: Guess You know that already. Keep the faith - Paul D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie Davenport" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] Site Driving Me Crazy!!! > Hey Cuz: > Does this mean that its gonna cost when You get on line? Cuz Paul D In KC > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:59 AM > Subject: [DAVENPORT] Site Driving Me Crazy!!! > > > > > > Hi all- > > I'm getting really frustrated...I want so bad to put the 32 generations of > > Orme de Davenport on the site for all to enjoy. But, I'm having nothing > but > > trouble. I put them on Custom & Custom 2 pages and get a 674 error. I > deleted > > the pages, the re-added them & got the same thing. So, then I deleted > Custom & > > Custom 2 again...then put Orme's people on, same problem...674 error, > > whatever that means! > > Anyway, Butch & I are tired of messing with these fly by night hosts who > do > > not supply tech support if it's a free site. We got a paid site that is > > awesome. I'm building it as we speak & it won't be long til opening. This > > will be the permanent home of our DavenportAncestors. In the meantime, if > you > > have any questions regarding Davenport people, please feel free to email > me. > > Thank you......cuzzin Teri > > > > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > > For instructions on unsubscribing or searching the list archives visit: > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/group.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. > Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

hi i am jesse davenport in ny ----- Original Message ----- From: "JECrain" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] Site Driving Me Crazy!!! > Terri; Why don't you get a FREE site at Rootsweb? That is what I did 3 years > ago. They give you unlimited web space (100 MB's and more if you ask for > it). Plus other helpful features. You can use an online editor or FTP your > files in. There will be a very small ad top and bottom of your page. Nothing > popping up or flashing. I think we all owe it to Rootsweb to support them, > anyway, so this doesn't bother me. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > > Janet Lewis Crain > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~craingen/ > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=craingen > CRAIN*LEWIS*JACKSON*HOLLOWAY*GAMBILL*BRANTLEY*HILL*VICKERS*WAGGONER* > DAVENPORT*ROSE*BRESSIE/BRACEY*STINNETT*RUCKER*WHITE*ANDREWS*MCDONALD* > WILKES*HOPPER*FENDER*HAYES*ELLIOTT*BRADLEY*STAMPER*BALDWIN*CAUDILL*RHEA* > SHADDEN*SIZEMORE * and many more! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dottie Burkhart" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 7:39 AM > Subject: RE: [DAVENPORT] Site Driving Me Crazy!!! > > > > I would be glad to contribute to expenses. Dottie Davenport Burkhart > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bonnie Davenport [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 6:50 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] Site Driving Me Crazy!!! > > > > > > Hey Cuz: > > Does this mean that its gonna cost when You get on line? Cuz Paul D In KC > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:59 AM > > Subject: [DAVENPORT] Site Driving Me Crazy!!! > > > > > > > > > > Hi all- > > > I'm getting really frustrated...I want so bad to put the 32 generations > of > > > Orme de Davenport on the site for all to enjoy. But, I'm having nothing > > but > > > trouble. I put them on Custom & Custom 2 pages and get a 674 error. I > > deleted > > > the pages, the re-added them & got the same thing. So, then I deleted > > Custom & > > > Custom 2 again...then put Orme's people on, same problem...674 error, > > > whatever that means! > > > Anyway, Butch & I are tired of messing with these fly by night hosts who > > do > > > not supply tech support if it's a free site. We got a paid site that is > > > awesome. I'm building it as we speak & it won't be long til opening. > This > > > will be the permanent home of our DavenportAncestors. In the meantime, > if > > you > > > have any questions regarding Davenport people, please feel free to email > > me. > > > Thank you......cuzzin Teri > > > > > > > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > > > For instructions on unsubscribing or searching the list archives visit: > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/group.htm > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > > The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. > > Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go > > to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ______________________________ > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 1/21/2003 > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > For instructions on unsubscribing or searching the list archives visit: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/group.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

jesse davenport in ny ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] Site Driving Me Crazy!!! > Thank you for the great suggestion Janet... > We've already commited to another company & the new Davenport site will be > opening soon. > We found a reputable hosting company (that's not to say that rootsweb > isn't)....no ads, no popups, or other garbage. > This will be the permanent home of our DavenportAncestors > Thanks again......cuzzin Teri > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > For instructions on unsubscribing or searching the list archives visit: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/group.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Bob There won't be "concrete proof" that the two Isaacs are one and the same. If they matched it tells us both lines had a common ancestor. It could be Isaac or it could be a generation or more above him. But - it would show a link. Hope this helps. Bill Davenport [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Robert D.Brooke [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [DAVENPORT] A DNA Testing Plan Dear Bill.......... Would you be kind enough to confirm the following as a viable plan: Isaac Davenport was born in NJ in 1693. He "disappeared" in about 1725. An Isaac Davenport turned up in NC approximately ten years later, and died there in 1749. His descendants went on to become "Newberry Davenports" If we did a 25 marker test on a male Newberry descendant, and a 25 marker test on a male descendant of one of NJ Isaac's brothers, and got a match, wouldn't we have concrete proof that the two Isaacs were one and the same man? Thanks, Bob Brooke PS: Please respond, including this e-mail. Then I can forward both in one swoop to several interested cousins. Thx.

Not exactly. It would prove that the NC Isaac and the NJ Isaac were either the same man or had the same male progenitor. -----Original Message----- From: Robert D.Brooke [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [DAVENPORT] A DNA Testing Plan Dear Bill.......... Would you be kind enough to confirm the following as a viable plan: Isaac Davenport was born in NJ in 1693. He "disappeared" in about 1725. An Isaac Davenport turned up in NC approximately ten years later, and died there in 1749. His descendants went on to become "Newberry Davenports" If we did a 25 marker test on a male Newberry descendant, and a 25 marker test on a male descendant of one of NJ Isaac's brothers, and got a match, wouldn't we have concrete proof that the two Isaacs were one and the same man? Thanks, Bob Brooke PS: Please respond, including this e-mail. Then I can forward both in one swoop to several interested cousins. Thx. ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== For instructions on unsubscribing or searching the list archives visit: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/group.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Dear Emma, Oh, but are you in luck! The two people you are now researching are my very own grandparents! Although they died before I was born I knew & grew up with all the children from that marriage. The specific child you are speaking of that died was my Aunt Nanny! I remember her very well, however her husband had died before my birth. While I'm still very new at this ancestory stuff & don't really know a lot about it, my sister who lives in East Texas has all the information on the Kirklands, as our mother was a Kirkland before she married our father, Clarence C. Young. Also, I sent off for & paid the $40 to buy the CD on this particular lineage. I still haven't downloaded it yet because I'm so new to the computer that I don't know what I'm doing! Ha! However, please contact me & perhaps between the two of us we can help each other with this rediscovering our ancesters. I have pictures of our Aunt Nanny & will be happy to dig them out for you & send them to you in an email. So very happy to have heard from you. Please keep my SN & email address. My name is: Bobbie Joan Underwood 938 Pampa DR Mesquite, TX 75149 Phone: (972) 285-3174 I was born 01/13/41 in Dallas, TX at Methodist Hospital. My mother Opal Louise Kirkland (Henry) Young was the baby daughter of John & Nancy Kirkland. There were four of us children born: Orville Henry born to my mother from a previous marriage, Nancy June Carter, me, and Linda Louise Martin who died at the age of 22yrs of leukemia. The only remaining siblings at this writing are myself and my sister Nancy with whom I have no longer any contact. (so sad) Anything I can tell you, send you or help you with, please feel free to contact me! Very definitely, we are related! Sincerely, Joan Underwood

Dear Bill.......... Would you be kind enough to confirm the following as a viable plan: Isaac Davenport was born in NJ in 1693. He "disappeared" in about 1725. An Isaac Davenport turned up in NC approximately ten years later, and died there in 1749. His descendants went on to become "Newberry Davenports" If we did a 25 marker test on a male Newberry descendant, and a 25 marker test on a male descendant of one of NJ Isaac's brothers, and got a match, wouldn't we have concrete proof that the two Isaacs were one and the same man? Thanks, Bob Brooke PS: Please respond, including this e-mail. Then I can forward both in one swoop to several interested cousins. Thx.

Thank you for the great suggestion Janet... We've already commited to another company & the new Davenport site will be opening soon. We found a reputable hosting company (that's not to say that rootsweb isn't)....no ads, no popups, or other garbage. This will be the permanent home of our DavenportAncestors Thanks again......cuzzin Teri

Please use the subject box so that those of us who are not currently interested in the DNA testing can save a little time and just delete. Thanks, Jann Davenport

Glenora: Thanks for your reply. I can understand your concerns. From a study done by the members of the Genealogy-DNA-L list at Rootsweb, we have found that, in the tests where the results are publicly available, 30% of the 12 marker matches fail at 25 markers. Fail is defined as 3 or more differences in the markers. This means the 25 marker test is usually required to validate a 12 marker match. WIth a 25 marker test, the time to the 50% level for the MRCA is 7 generations. A 35 marker test could cut the 50% level to 3 generations. Both are well within the time frame when we can hope to find supporting documentation. Most of the more recently started Y DNA studies tend to encourage the 25 marker test, instead of the 12 and upgrade. The US government has proposed a 65 marker test, and we are waiting to get the technical details. The Genealogy-DNA-L list is gathering evidences of the mutation rates between related testers to try to determine the mutation rates at various markers. We believe this is one instance where amateurs can make a contribution to the scientific literature, since most scientific studies are of non-genealogically linked populations. As to the ethics, I trust the company I went with and their scientific laboratory not to share my DNA sample with anyone else. Can I be sure of that, no, do I worry about it, not very much. The US govenrment already has my DNA and they will do whatever they want to with it. Illegitamacy and adoptions are part of life. I recommend that no one have the Y DNA testing, unless they are sure they will match the rest of their family, or unless they are looking for a difference. While the degree of relationship can not be determined, a non-match is easy to see. Errors in documentation, clerical errors in transcription, etc. are always with us. We simply have to be careful in our research and documentation. Again, this is a tool to be used in our research, it complements our record research. Like you, I have no doubts that it will be improved in the future. Take Care, Steven C. Perkins On 22 Jan 2003 at 0:06, Glenora Chamberlin wrote: Date forwarded: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 01:06:23 -0700 Date sent: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 00:06:26 -0800 Forwarded by: [email protected] From: Glenora Chamberlin <[email protected]> Subject: [DAVENPORT] Re: DAVENPORT-D Digest V03 #27 To: [email protected] Send reply to: [email protected] > >Glenora: > >Could you give us some idea of what you mean by "the relatively low rate >of success."? I'm curious as to what was being sought that, not being >found, lead to that conclusion. > >Y DNA is not a substitute for paternity tests, and it can't tell you the >exact relationship between two people who have a perfect match on their Y >DNA signature. It can tell you if you are or are not related to someone >of the same surname, and it can tell you the ethnic background of your >direct male line ancestor. > >So, we can use it to see if any of the Northern and Southern Davenport >fanilies are related and, assuming we can determine his Y DNA signature, >we can determine if Davis Davenport was of male Native American or >African or Caucasian ancestry. > >Regards, > >Steven C. Perkins Steve, Nothing was being sought, nor did I say so. I am not an expert, but I do know that if 2 people have a total match of all 12 markers, they are *most likely* related. But, there is still only a 50% chance that their common ancestor lived within the last 14 or so generations, or about 600 years. If even one marker is off, there has been a mutation since that common ancestor was alive which makes a more distant relationship likely. Two markers being different is slipping into questionable results, and three is deemed not related. There can be and often are mixed relationships, bastard children as an example. Thus, another way that lines can be less than clear. At some point, basically from those still living (or access to DNA of the departed) back, it is still a matter of trusting good genealogy and research. No, they are not taken as paternity tests, but can be used as such, or in other ways. Once you part with your DNA one must be quite trusting of the possibilities. Is it destroyed? Is the data? Who holds it and what is the security? Is learning the ethnicity of a patriarch of enough value to become part of a data base and pay the costs involved? I'm not saying these are problems with any particular company, but personally, they are things I would look into quite thoroughly before deciding. My friend who had this done was also asked to fill out family charts, which she did. An error in their transcribing ruined the whole process anyway, so the results were of no value to her, or anyone. But they did muddy her genealogy waters so to speak. I admit a sensitivity to this subject, which also causes me to fully support most genetic research. We have a genetic disorder in the family that has left one of my daughters disabled, and has mutated to another form of the disorder in a grand-daughter, just one generation. Of course that is quite a different topic, but the time I've spent with geneticists has been educational. I do believe that in a few years the testing for family lines will be much more refined, and the ethics as well. So again, all I did was suggest people investigate before committing their money and information. And for those wondering, the disorder is not from the Davenport side. 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Glenora: Thank you for your concern about the DNA testing. Maybe I can lessen that concern by going over a few of your statements: "I am not an expert, but I do know that if 2 people have a total match of all 12 markers, they are *most likely* related.  But, there is still only a 50% chance that their common ancestor lived within the last 14 or so generations, or about 600 years.  If even one marker is off, there has been a mutation since that common ancestor was alive which makes a more distant relationship likely.  Two markers being different is slipping into questionable results, and three is deemed not related." I am not an expert either but I am a computer consultant with a degree in Biology so I have a little understanding of both sides. The statement about the 12 markers is true. That is exactly why I was pushing the 25 marker test. It cuts the time to a Most Recent Common Ancestor to seven generations -- or into the 1600/1700s. Which is the era we are looking at. By testing several representatives from each line we can increase the chance of spotting such an exception. "There can be and often are mixed relationships, bastard children as an example.  Thus, another way that lines can be less than clear.  At some point, basically from those still living (or access to DNA of the departed) back, it is still a matter of trusting good genealogy and research." This in no way replaces the grunt work of genealogy research. And we are not trying to establish paternity. As mentioned above multiple samples will help spot mutations or "non Davenports" that may sneak in. "No, they are not taken as paternity tests, but can be used as such, or in other ways.  Once you part with your DNA one must be quite trusting of the possibilities.  Is it destroyed?  Is the data?  Who holds it and what is the security? " Remember, you "part with your DNA" everyday by licking an envelope, combing your hair, shaking hands etc... If you are interested in the security aspect go to the link below for information. I have no problem with it. <A HREF="http://www.familytreedna.com/privacy.html">http://www.familytreedna.com/privacy.html</A> "Is learning the ethnicity of a patriarch of enough value to become part of a data base and pay the costs involved?  I'm not saying these are problems with any particular company, but personally, they are things I would look into quite thoroughly before deciding.  My friend who had this done was also asked to fill out family charts, which she did.  An error in their transcribing ruined the whole process anyway, so the results were of no value to her, or anyone.  But they did muddy her genealogy waters so to speak." The purpose of this DNA testing is to determine if any of the early Davenport lines are connected. I, nor Family Tree DNA are asking for any family charts. I am only asking each individual which line they believe they are linked to so the results will be meaningful. Any links we may discover could change the direction of one's research. Example - If we find that the Thomas Davenport of Dorchester and the Rev. John Davenport of New Haven are not connected then maybe we can stop 150 years of trying to find a link. Once again - Thank you for your concern. If you have any more, please contact me. Bill Davenport Group Administrator for Davenport Surname DNA Project [email protected]

Terri; Why don't you get a FREE site at Rootsweb? That is what I did 3 years ago. They give you unlimited web space (100 MB's and more if you ask for it). Plus other helpful features. You can use an online editor or FTP your files in. There will be a very small ad top and bottom of your page. Nothing popping up or flashing. I think we all owe it to Rootsweb to support them, anyway, so this doesn't bother me. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ Janet Lewis Crain http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~craingen/ http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=craingen CRAIN*LEWIS*JACKSON*HOLLOWAY*GAMBILL*BRANTLEY*HILL*VICKERS*WAGGONER* DAVENPORT*ROSE*BRESSIE/BRACEY*STINNETT*RUCKER*WHITE*ANDREWS*MCDONALD* WILKES*HOPPER*FENDER*HAYES*ELLIOTT*BRADLEY*STAMPER*BALDWIN*CAUDILL*RHEA* SHADDEN*SIZEMORE * and many more! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dottie Burkhart" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 7:39 AM Subject: RE: [DAVENPORT] Site Driving Me Crazy!!! > I would be glad to contribute to expenses. Dottie Davenport Burkhart > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bonnie Davenport [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 6:50 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] Site Driving Me Crazy!!! > > > Hey Cuz: > Does this mean that its gonna cost when You get on line? Cuz Paul D In KC > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:59 AM > Subject: [DAVENPORT] Site Driving Me Crazy!!! > > > > > > Hi all- > > I'm getting really frustrated...I want so bad to put the 32 generations of > > Orme de Davenport on the site for all to enjoy. But, I'm having nothing > but > > trouble. I put them on Custom & Custom 2 pages and get a 674 error. I > deleted > > the pages, the re-added them & got the same thing. So, then I deleted > Custom & > > Custom 2 again...then put Orme's people on, same problem...674 error, > > whatever that means! > > Anyway, Butch & I are tired of messing with these fly by night hosts who > do > > not supply tech support if it's a free site. We got a paid site that is > > awesome. I'm building it as we speak & it won't be long til opening. This > > will be the permanent home of our DavenportAncestors. In the meantime, if > you > > have any questions regarding Davenport people, please feel free to email > me. > > Thank you......cuzzin Teri > > > > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > > For instructions on unsubscribing or searching the list archives visit: > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/group.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. > Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ______________________________ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 1/21/2003

Dottie- Thank you for your generous offer, however, we cannot accept! This site is our (Butch & I) contribution to all who has helped us find our families & to those still looking. Your contribution could be your family line sent to us for publication on the site. It may help you & others who are searching for family. Thank you again for your kind offer.........cuzzin Teri

I think the Davenport you might be talking about is George Davenport and ? Weems children. I am not sure but I know they lived S Missouri. Janet Ariciu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie Davenport" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] Curiosity > Hey -- You ALL: > (thats Missouri talk) I got news for You There is a place in S. Missouri > that used to be called Davenport Hollow. Where a large band of Davenports > lived. > Story I heard was there was one large bunch that were religous and one group > of outlaws like -- some were brothers. But and -So they went dif ways -- > lot of them stayed in Missory and are still a lot of both related clans here > now. Paul > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "francis davenport" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:44 PM > Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] Curiosity > > > > There probably is no one place called Davenport. The name in an early > form > > dates, so it's been explained to me, to about the 9th century, when the > > Danelaw was in effect. > > > > Remember that after Roman rule ended, around the 4th-5th century, the > island > > of Britain received a steady stream of invaders, mostly Teutons like the > > Angles and the Saxons. These tribes at first fought like cat and dog, but > > in time they settled down, intermarried, sat around swilling mead and > > reciting Beowulf, and thus established the Anglo-Saxon civilization. All > > went well till about the 8th century, when a new wave of Nordic invaders > > hit - Danes, aka the Vikings. These fellows were serious about conquest, > > not intermarriage (they had other plans for the women). The Anglo-Saxons > > put up a brave fight, but the Danes came close to conquering them. In the > > end, though, the Anglo-Saxon king Alfred - the only monarch whom the > English > > have ever named "The Great" - fought the Danes to a standstill. The > result > > was an armistice in which southern England was divided, with fairly free > > civil and trade relations between the Danish and Anglo-Saxon zones. The > > inter-zonal boundary line was a navigable river, which the Anglo-Saxons > > called the Dane, and the Danish zone became known as the Danelaw. In time > a > > Dane-Harbor came to mean a trading port along the Dane river, or a trading > > boat or a trader, and when names were being handed out, it was inevitable > > some people would receive this word as their name. The syllable "port" is > > clearly French, so our name in its present form must not have evolved > until > > after the Norman conquest. By that time the river had probably gone dry, > > and the Danes and Anglo-Saxons had long since intermarried (the women > proved > > smarter). In due course they absorbed the Normans as well, creating > > Churchill's race of Englishmen. > > > > How much of this is right? Don't know, I've never researched any of it > > independently, but it sounds plausible. If you want to look for some sort > > of epicenter, I'd start with Nottinghamshire. My uncle was stationed > there > > in WWII and said the name was commoner than Smith. Good luck. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Winifred Auch" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:24 PM > > Subject: [DAVENPORT] Curiosity > > > > > > > Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] > > > >Just can't go on not knowing where in England we find > > Davenport/Devenport. > > > > > > > > > Not in my world atlas. Not in my encyclopedia. > > > > > > Some one. Oh please come to my rescue. Which shire is it > > > in?<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > > > Cliff, > > > > > > 8Davenport* is a small village near Congleton In the county of > > > **Cheshire**. Look at your atlas - if you can't find Congleton, it > is > > > just south of Macclesfield.- > > > > > > This is the area where most of the Davenport originate from; iow, it > > was > > > the land in Cheshire which was given to his knight by William the > > > Conqueror. Over the years many of the lines spread over into > Derbyshire > > > and other nearby counties.- > > > > > > This is not to be confused with the Plymouth/Devonport in Devonshire. > > > I believe that the part of Plymouth called Devonport gets its name from > > > the fact that it IS a port in the county of Devon. > > > Hence the name "Devonport"! > > > > > > There are very few Davenport in Devonshire - I know, because I lived > > > there for 8 years. My father Charles Harold Davenport was born in > > Exeter, > > > Devon but HIS father came from Derbyshire.- > > > Below is a part of a piece I found in the UK Yahoo, mentioning the > > village > > > of Davenport:- > > > > > > <<<<<There are preserved in the strong room in Congleton Town Hall some > > 121 > > > charters and assorted documents. Eighty-one were written before 1500. > Ten > > > or so relate to various places in North Wales (Hawarden), Staffordshire > > > (Kings Bromley, Longsdon, Lichfield), and Cheshire (Chester, Hough, > > > Macclesfield, Old Rode, Rope, Stapley, Upton, Wickmalban, Wightreston, > > > Willaston), but most are concerned with properties in Congleton itself. > > > > > > Although for convenience I have characterized the collection as > charters, > > > in reality there are a number of different types of document. The oldest > > > firmly dated item of c.1272 is a charter of Henry de Lacy granting the > men > > > of Congleton burgage tenure (the holding of their land by a money rent > > > rather than by personal service) and the right to elect a mayor. There > are > > > several other documents outlining the privileges of the lord and his > > > burgesses of various dates as well as a return to Quo Warranto > proceedings > > > touching the liberties of the lord of Halton in the early fourteenth > > > century. There are simple charters granting land, numerous chirographs > and > > > indentures (both, broadly, agreements of one kind or another), two > wills, > > > and Letters Patent granting the right to build a mill after the floods > of > > > 1451. Finally, there are miscellaneous items like plans for the > > > construction of a gallery in the upper chapel of the early eighteenth > > > century and a mortgage of the nineteenth. > > > > > > The collection is what is left of the borough of Congletons muniments. A > > > fire destroyed many of its records, but what survived were mounted and > > > restored by the Bodley Library in Oxford and, interleaved with a > > > translation by the Rev. Jonathan Wilson, the school master of Congleton, > > > bound in three volumes. A fourth volume containing four Congleton > charters > > > of the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries was given to the town by James > > > Bradwell in the late nineteenth century. > > > > > > By 1272 Congleton was probably already an urban community of long > > standing. > > > Its origins as a trading centre are to be found in the now **depopulated > > > village of Davenport ** .............................<<<< > > > > > > Wynne > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > > > The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. > > > Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > > The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are now available on CD. > > Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. > Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Cuzzin Terri, according Allan Craig my Davenport lines goes from my father John Allen Davenport, born in Gaston NC, Ira Lamar Davenport, James Augustus, William Jr. William Sr. (Lincoln County) George Jr. and George the Immigrant who first appears in VA ca 1703. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 6:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] Site Driving Me Crazy!!! Paul & All (I'm a poet on the side) There will be ABSOLUTELY NO CHARGE to visitors....EVER!!!!!!! The DavenportAncestors staff is funding the site. The only thing y'all need to do is enjoy yourself and send your Davenport family line to us (if you'd like)......cuzzin Teri ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I would be glad to contribute to expenses. Dottie Davenport Burkhart -----Original Message----- From: Bonnie Davenport [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 6:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DAVENPORT] Site Driving Me Crazy!!! Hey Cuz: Does this mean that its gonna cost when You get on line? Cuz Paul D In KC ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:59 AM Subject: [DAVENPORT] Site Driving Me Crazy!!! > > Hi all- > I'm getting really frustrated...I want so bad to put the 32 generations of > Orme de Davenport on the site for all to enjoy. But, I'm having nothing but > trouble. I put them on Custom & Custom 2 pages and get a 674 error. I deleted > the pages, the re-added them & got the same thing. So, then I deleted Custom & > Custom 2 again...then put Orme's people on, same problem...674 error, > whatever that means! > Anyway, Butch & I are tired of messing with these fly by night hosts who do > not supply tech support if it's a free site. We got a paid site that is > awesome. I'm building it as we speak & it won't be long til opening. This > will be the permanent home of our DavenportAncestors. In the meantime, if you > have any questions regarding Davenport people, please feel free to email me. > Thank you......cuzzin Teri > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > For instructions on unsubscribing or searching the list archives visit: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/group.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello All- The above website is no longer in existence. The host went out of business & didn't bother to tell me. The new "temporary" site is below. Coming soon is the permanent home for our DavenportAncestors. I'm sorry for all troubles, but it's beyond my control....cuzzin Teri The Site Is Now At: http://DavenportFamily.1colony.com

> >Glenora: > >Could you give us some idea of what you mean by "the relatively low rate >of success."? I'm curious as to what was being sought that, not being >found, lead to that conclusion. > >Y DNA is not a substitute for paternity tests, and it can't tell you the >exact relationship between two people who have a perfect match on their Y >DNA signature. It can tell you if you are or are not related to someone >of the same surname, and it can tell you the ethnic background of your >direct male line ancestor. > >So, we can use it to see if any of the Northern and Southern Davenport >fanilies are related and, assuming we can determine his Y DNA signature, >we can determine if Davis Davenport was of male Native American or >African or Caucasian ancestry. > >Regards, > >Steven C. Perkins Steve, Nothing was being sought, nor did I say so. I am not an expert, but I do know that if 2 people have a total match of all 12 markers, they are *most likely* related. But, there is still only a 50% chance that their common ancestor lived within the last 14 or so generations, or about 600 years. If even one marker is off, there has been a mutation since that common ancestor was alive which makes a more distant relationship likely. Two markers being different is slipping into questionable results, and three is deemed not related. There can be and often are mixed relationships, bastard children as an example. Thus, another way that lines can be less than clear. At some point, basically from those still living (or access to DNA of the departed) back, it is still a matter of trusting good genealogy and research. No, they are not taken as paternity tests, but can be used as such, or in other ways. Once you part with your DNA one must be quite trusting of the possibilities. Is it destroyed? Is the data? Who holds it and what is the security? Is learning the ethnicity of a patriarch of enough value to become part of a data base and pay the costs involved? I'm not saying these are problems with any particular company, but personally, they are things I would look into quite thoroughly before deciding. My friend who had this done was also asked to fill out family charts, which she did. An error in their transcribing ruined the whole process anyway, so the results were of no value to her, or anyone. But they did muddy her genealogy waters so to speak. I admit a sensitivity to this subject, which also causes me to fully support most genetic research. We have a genetic disorder in the family that has left one of my daughters disabled, and has mutated to another form of the disorder in a grand-daughter, just one generation. Of course that is quite a different topic, but the time I've spent with geneticists has been educational. I do believe that in a few years the testing for family lines will be much more refined, and the ethics as well. So again, all I did was suggest people investigate before committing their money and information. And for those wondering, the disorder is not from the Davenport side. Glenora

I talked with a davenport from new england a couple of years ago and he told me that the davenport name came over with an eastern european future king.I don't recall his name but i think it had henry in it.If i remember correctly he said that it was of german origin,don't know if that is true though.It is somthing to look into .Good Luck,hope this helps. Sincerly, Capt.T.R.Davenport of P.A.

Somebody please answer. I have the same problem. [email protected] wrote: > > I have never been able to get to this website: > http://DavenportAncestors.host12.com. What am I doing wrong? Please help. > Dot Pourteau > [email protected] > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > The Pamunkey Davenport Chronicles are available on CD. > Visit the link below for a free preview and instructions on ordering. > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/chronicles.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237