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    1. Re: [DAVENPORT] Must Read!!! Rev. John Davenport DNA test results in plus more - June 26, 2003
    2. Winifred Auch
    3. Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] > Don't you have any male Davenport cousins? You could sponsor them to be tested. My father's brother and sister married in their forties and had no children. My father did have 5 Uncles (Davenport) one of which was somewhat known since he had written some music which still shows up in some catalogs (London). Therefore, following that thought it is more than likely that the 5 Uncles had children some of whom were boys. Tracing all that is not exactly impossible, but very VERY hard to do. (G) Most of all, it is time-consuming which at this time, I don't have a lot of due to my husband's recent surgery. Still, I'll do my best to get into it. Its been explained to me here at least 3 times, but I still can't see why "my blood' ain't good enough. <vbg> Sorry, just thickheaded - now that would be coming from my German mother. On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 20:06, Winifred Auch wrote: > Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] > >The Rev. John Davenport was perhaps the best known of the several > Davenports > that arrived in America in the 1600s. His line is well researched and dates > > back at least to Orme de Auceporte around 1086 in England. Over the years > there > has much speculation that all or most of these Davenports were in some way > related. > > Now we have more ammunition. > > The sample from kit # 9415 (Rev. John) has an exact match with the > Albemarle > Davenport line. It also has a 24/25 match with the Thomas of Dorchester > line.<<<<<<<<<< > > Comment: I have a Rev. Thomas Davenport and his two sons, Rev. John > Davenport and Rev. Samuel Davenport. (1700s) in my ancestry - all born in > England.. > > (Un)fortunately I'm not a man so I can't be checked out genetically. <g> > > Winn ><

    06/27/2003 10:39:45
    1. Re: [DAVENPORT] Must Read!!! Rev. John Davenport DNA test results in plus more - June 26, 2003
    2. Winifred Auch
    3. Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] > For the Thomas line - The two participants are from the Thomas > Charles > branch. We could use a participant from one of the other sons - Jonathan, > Ebenezer, or John. This might help pinpoint what Thomas actually was.<<<<< I have Ebenezer Davenport born 1782 in Horsley, Derbyshire (father Rev. Samuel Davenport), and Ebenezer Davenport born 1814 in Derby, Derbyshire, (father Joseph Davenport). Probably no connection but it is an unusual name (Ebenezer) Winn > <

    06/27/2003 10:30:11
    1. [DAVENPORT] What happened to the Will?
    2. I posted the Will before I posted others. What happened to it? It didn't make it to the list...Teri

    06/27/2003 07:39:50
    1. [DAVENPORT] Hannah Soby- Be advised
    2. Please be advised that I did not obtain copies of these originals myself. Copies of the original were made by Charles Florance, then into the hands of J Richard Florance and sent to me by him. They were downloaded by me, printed on my printer and then typed by me today. In order for you to use them as documentation for your own work, you must obtain a copy on your own.... Teri A copy can be made at: The Paul Klapper Library Queens College Brooklyn, NY J Richard Florance can be reached at: Dick- [email protected]

    06/27/2003 07:28:15
    1. [DAVENPORT] Hannah Soby
    2. Tha man that sent me all this info is J Richard Florance, a descendant as well...Teri THE IDENTIFICATION OF EBENEZER (SGS # 063) SEELY’S SECOND WIFE Ebenezer Seely’s second wife is identified as Eunice (Schofield) Davenport in both the 5-Generation Seeley book and on Dan Seelye’s web-site. Evidence is presented below in order to further the understanding of Eunice’s surname at the time of her marriage to Ebenezer. Her maiden name was likely SCHOFIELD, but her surname at the time of her marriage to Ebenezer should have read "SOBEY". Confusion over her surname likely arose from her 1769 Will in which she names step-daughter, Hannah Devenport and as one of two executors, step-son-in-law, Oliver Devenport. Knowing that Ebenezer didn’t have a daughter, Hannah, one could easily add the surname of Devenport to the equation. However, in this case the Davenport surname came only from the marriage of Oliver to Eunice’s step-daughter through her own earlier marriage to Trustum Sobey. A major culprit in this case is the variance between the abstract and the original will. When describing Oliver Davenport the abstract reads "stepson" while the original reads " my step son in law". Interpretation of Eunice’s will from the original abstract, published by the New York Historical Society, was made even more difficult when they published "I leave to my grandson Simeon all of my right and title to this place where I now live." In 1902, this was corrected to read "Gideon", not Simeon. Morse, Willard S., RECORD OF FOUR GENERATIONS OF THE DESCENDANTS OF CAPTAIN ROBERT SEELEY, 1916, makes no mention of a surname for Eunice. As a point of interest, the land described above hadn’t belonged to Ebenezer Seely and as it turned out, Eunice had never had title to it, it belonged to Oliver Davenport......... Supporting Facts: The three children of Trustum Sobey (Soby, Sobe, Sobee), my 4-gt-grandmother Deborah (Sobey) Florance and her two younger siblings, Hannah and Lazarus were baptized 18 August 1729 in the New Rochelle, NY French Church, by pastor L. Stouppe. The baptism was after the death of their mother, Hannah, and Trustum’s marriage to their step-mother, Eunice Scofield. From the translation from French, one learns that their step-mother witnessed the baptisms. Source: Florance, Col. Charles W., WE THE FLORANCES/FLORENCES, 1980, CS71.F62651981, LCCN 82-100490 On 10 Oct 1746, Hannah Sobee witnessed the Phillips Precinct, Dutchess Co., NY will of Thomas (the founder) Davenport and in the Dutch Church, Fishkill, Dutchess Co., NY, Hannah Sobee married the son of Thomas, Oliver Davenport. The last public record found for Trustum Sobey was his appointment as Collector and Constable of Mamaroneck, Westchester Co., NY in 1750 and knowing that Ebenezer Seely listed his second wife, Eunice, in his will of 16 May 1763, we can determine that Trustum likely died between 1750 and 1763. In her will written 11 July 1769, Eunis describes herself as being from Woodbury Clove, New Cornwall Precinct, Orange Co., Province of New York. This means that by that date, she had left Oxford where she had lived with Ebenezer, and was living near her step-daughter, Hannah (Sobey) Davenport and her step-son-in-law, Oliver Davenport. It is thought that she went there to care for her orphaned step-grandchildren, called grandchildren by her, Gideon (didn’t marry until 1770), Peter, Deborah and Mary Florance (All listed in Eunice’s will). The location of where she was living at the time her will was written is backed up by: In the 1768 New Cornwall Precinct minutes - a road was authorized to be built from Highland Mills to New Jersey and it included part of the road to the "Widow Seleys and along the line of Oliver Davenports." >From the above, one can ascertain that the Hannah Davenport listed in Eunice’ s 1769 will was called step-daughter because of her being a "Sobey", not a Seely or Davenport. J Richard Florance 02 Aug 1999

    06/27/2003 07:21:53
    1. [DAVENPORT] Hannah Soby-Eunis Seeley's Will
    2. I couldn't figure out how to go from a .jpg file to the board without an attachment, so I'm typing it. If anyone would like a copy, please just ask...Teri Eunis Seeley's Will probate dated 26 Apr 1770 I Eunis Seeley of Woodbury Clove New Cornwall Precinct Orange County and Province of New York, widow, being thro' the abundant mercy and goodness of God, tho' weak in body, yet of a sound and perfect understanding and memory, do constitute this my last will and testament, and desire it may be received by all as such. First I most humbly bequeath my soul to God my maker, beseeching his most gracious acceptance of it, through the all-sufficient merits and meditation of my most compassionate redeemer Jesus Christ, who gave himself to be an atonement for my sins (and the sins of the world) and is able to save, to the uttermost, all that came unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them and who, I trust, will not reject me, a returning penitent sinner when I come to Him for mercy; in this hope and confidence I render up my soul with comfort, humbly beseeching the most blessed and glorious trinity, one God most holy, most merciful and gracious, to prepare me for the time of my dissolution, and then to take me to himself into that peace and rest, and incomparable felicity, which He has prepared for all that love and fear His holy name, Amen, blessed be God. I give my body to the earth from whence it was taken, in full assurance of it's Resurrection from thence at the Last Day. As for my burial, I desire it may be decent, at the discretion of my executors hereafter named, who, I doubt not, will manage it with all requisite prudence. As to my worldly estate, I will and positively order that all my just debts be paid. First, I give to my grandson Gideon all my right and title of this place whereupon I now live. I also give to my stepdaughter Hannah Devenport ten pounds out of all the monies that remains coming to me out of my deceased husband Seeley's estate, I also give to my grandson Peter ten pounds out of the said money, and that all of the remainder of the said money I give to my grandson Gideon. My will is that Dinah shall be sold and if she fetch sixty pounds, it shall be equally divided between my other six grandchildren and all that she fetches more is to go to my grandson Gideon. I also give and bequeath to my granddaughter Mary my curtains and beig cubbard. I also give to my granddaughter Deberah ten pounds of the debt that John Seeley owes me which that together with all other the legacies that I have left her is to be put out upon interest intill she is married or shall arrive at the full age of eighteen years. I also give to my granddaughter Mary a cow called brockie cow, one hogg, five chairs, the one a great chair, a deep pewter platter, four new plates a bason and a warming pan. I give the hand irons to Abigail. I give my bed and all my sheets and beding that belongs to it to my granddaughter Deberah. I give a bed and the beding that belongs to it to Gideon, together with a cow, two hogs and the horse. Lastly, I do make and constitute my step son in law and my grandson, namely Oliver Davenport and Gideon Florance executors of this my last will and testment. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal the eleventh day of July in the year of our Lord Christ, one thousand seven hundred and sixty nine her Eunis X Seeley mark Signed, sealed, pronounced published and declared by the said Eunis Seeley to be her last will and testament in the presence of us, who in the presence of each other hereunto set our hands Johannes Snock her Hannah X Snock mark Kewis Donnovan Be it remembered that on the fifth day of Decmber one thousand seven hundred sixty nine personally came and appeared before me John Gale surrogate of the said county Lewis Donnovan of Orange county School Master and being duly sworn on his oath, declared that he did see Eunis Seeley sign and seal the within written instrument purporting to be the will of the said Eunis Seeley carrying the date the eleventh day of July one thousand seven hundred sixty nine and heard her publish and declare the same to be and contain her last will and testament that at the time thereof she the said Eunis Seeley was of sound disposing mind and memory to the best of knowledge and belief of him the deponent and that his name subscribed to the said will is of his proper handwriting which he subscribed as witness to the said will in the testors presence and that he the deponent saw Johannes Snock and Hannah Snock the other witnesses to be the said will subscribe their names as witnesses thereto in the testators presence Orange County John Gale, Surrogate (This copy made and proofread 14 Apr 1975 from a copy of the original document held by the Paul Klapper Library, Queens College, Brooklyn, N.Y. Charles W. Florance Jr Colonel USA Retired)

    06/27/2003 07:17:13
    1. Re: [DAVENPORT] Must Read!!! Rev. John Davenport DNA test results in plus more - June 26, 2003
    2. Gordon Banks
    3. Don't you have any male Davenport cousins? You could sponsor them to be tested. On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 20:06, Winifred Auch wrote: > Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] > >The Rev. John Davenport was perhaps the best known of the several > Davenports > that arrived in America in the 1600s. His line is well researched and dates > > back at least to Orme de Auceporte around 1086 in England. Over the years > there > has much speculation that all or most of these Davenports were in some way > related. > > Now we have more ammunition. > > The sample from kit # 9415 (Rev. John) has an exact match with the > Albemarle > Davenport line. It also has a 24/25 match with the Thomas of Dorchester > line.<<<<<<<<<< > > Comment: I have a Rev. Thomas Davenport and his two sons, Rev. John > Davenport and Rev. Samuel Davenport. (1700s) in my ancestry - all born in > England.. > > (Un)fortunately I'm not a man so I can't be checked out genetically. <g> > > Winn > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > For instructions on unsubscribing or searching the list archives visit: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/group.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    06/27/2003 06:35:42
    1. Re: [DAVENPORT] Must Read!!! Rev. John Davenport DNA test results in plus more - June 26, 2003
    2. Gordon Banks
    3. Great work! I do have a question, though. It would appear that #9573 indeed belongs to the Humphrey genetic pool, but 4/25 off in 400 years? Isn't that supposed to be too much? I had interpreted the fact that my cousin (#8305) was off by 2 from the Thomas line to mean the connection had to be back in England before the emigration, but if a descendant of Humphrey could be 4 off, then this would be out the window and we could be descended from Thomas or even John or the Albemarles. What do the people at FTDNA say about the odds of this? Do they have alternative theories (maybe a separate line of Davenports going way back in England from which the Humphreys came)? Maybe when we get most people tested, one of the scientists at FTDNA will wrap it up for us, giving us their opinion of how things look. On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 18:30, [email protected] wrote: > The Rev. John Davenport was perhaps the best known of the several Davenports > that arrived in America in the 1600s. His line is well researched and dates > back at least to Orme de Auceporte around 1086 in England. Over the years there > has much speculation that all or most of these Davenports were in some way > related. > > Now we have more ammunition. > > The sample from kit # 9415 (Rev. John) has an exact match with the Albemarle > Davenport line. It also has a 24/25 match with the Thomas of Dorchester line. > > This means that it is a pretty good bet that the Albemarle line descended > from the Rev. John, or from a very near relative such as a brother, uncle, or > cousin. ( I am not necessarily saying all these people existed). > > The same is true for the Thomas of Dorchester line. But we know Thomas and > The Rev. John are in roughly the same generation so their connection would be in > England. They could be brothers, cousins, have the same grandfather, etc... > > For the Albemarles - Our next step is to see if we find a connection between > Richard born 1642 and The Rev. John Descendants in the USA. If not - we will > need to look for a connection in England. I would also like to see a genealogy > of the early Albemarles if someone has one. > > For the Thomas line - The two participants are from the Thomas > Charles > branch. We could use a participant from one of the other sons - Jonathan, > Ebenezer, or John. This might help pinpoint what Thomas actually was. > > ----------------- > > The second result that came in was kit # 9573. There were rumors in the > family they were from the Humphrey line. The family also goes back to New Jersey > where Humphrey descendants resided. > > It turns out those rumors were true. There is a 21/25 match with the other > Humphreys. Normally we would not consider this a match. But since the Humphrey > results reported so far are so "different" compared to everybody else tested > at FTDNA (over 13600 samples) I will call it a match. Humphreys are only close > to other Humphreys so far. I moved it from the "unknown" line to Humphrey. > > I will let the Humphrey researchers work with #9573 to look for a connection. > > ---------------- > > That's it for now. There should be more results back in a few days. > > Bill Davenport > [email protected] > Davenport Surname DNA Project Administrator > > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > For instructions on unsubscribing or searching the list archives visit: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/group.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    06/27/2003 05:52:16
    1. [DAVENPORT] US Davenports
    2. Winifred Auch
    3. Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] >Someone talked about books not being accurate. Right now, those who descend from Oliver Davenport are in a discussion about who did he marry? Hannah Soby or Hannah Seeley? More and more it looks like Soby but yet even the DAR papers accept Seeley.<<<<<<<<<<<< This is of course a very long stretch, but is there the slightest chance that Soby and Seeley are one and the same person? For instance, considering the variations in *handwriting* if you imagine a b (as in Soby) with an unusually large (ending) loop, that could be seen as an e. <

    06/27/2003 03:31:45
    1. [DAVENPORT] Hannah Soby-Eunice Seeley Will
    2. This file is in .jpg form and I cannot figure out how to copy/paste. Not sure how to get it on the board. Any ideas? Thanks...Teri

    06/26/2003 08:32:19
    1. [DAVENPORT] Hannah Soby
    2. Before I post the other documents, I must first await the permission of my source (hopefully tomorrow)...Teri

    06/26/2003 08:06:50
    1. [DAVENPORT] Hannah Soby
    2. This is what was sent to me, two others will follow. I post the senders name (for verification) as soon as I hear from him...Teri Dear Teri, Great site, but I have two concerns relating to the information found on your Davenport site. My concerns: 1. Oliver Davenport’s wife was Hannah Sobey (Soby, Sobee) and she was never a Seely or Seeley. This certainly also relates to my second concern. 2.** "Notes for HANNAH SOBY/SEELEY: Hannah was the biological daughter of Trustum Soby & Hannah Griffin. Hannah was a blood native of the Delaware Nation. She was later adopted by the Seeley family of Newfield, Tompkins Co, NY for unknown reasons."** (**to ** is from our website- Teri & Butch) Foundation(s) for my concerns. The vehicle from which various researchers mistakenly decided that Hannah was a Seely (Seeley) was the 11 Jul 1769 Last Will & Testament of Eunis Seely, the widow of Ebenezer Seely. In that will, Eunis stated: "I also give to my stepdaughter Hannah Denvenport ten pounds out of all the monies that remains coming to me out of my deceased husband Seely’s estate." >From the above, researchers knowing that Eunis was the second wife of Ebenezer Seely, would assume that Ebenezer had a daughter, Hannah, by his first wife and further that therefore Oliver Davenport (the will called a step-son-in-law and co-executor) married a Hannah Seely. I have likely made many false assumptions during my many years of working on genealogy and therefore can understand the false reading of that will. In truth, Ebenezer Seely never had a daughter, Hannah, and the following is the case in point: The above named widow, Eunis Seely, had numerous marriages and to the best of my knowledge was Eunis Schofield-Sobey-Seely. The reason I say "best of my knowledge" is that I have the feeling that Schofield wasn’t her maiden name, but that of her first marriage. What we do know is that the mother of Hannah, Deborah (my 4-gt-grandmother) and Lazarus Soby was dead by 18 Aug 1729. By that time, Trustum Soby had married Eunis Schofield. Translation from the French (Huguenot) Church of New Rochelle: "Today 18 August 1729. Baptized 3 children of Trustum SOBY and Hannah, his deceased wife, viz: a girl named Deborah age _____, a girl named Hannah age ___, and Lazarus, age _____. The three children were presented by Mr. John Road and madam his wife, by Trustum SOBY, their father and Mrs ______ their stepmother. L. Stouppe, Pastor." We also know from a representation of a Huguenot Church Letter of 01 Jun 1743 found in Bolten’s HISTORY OF WESTCHESTER COUNTY, that both Trustum SOBY and his son-in-law, Gideon FLORANCE II signed that church letter which was requesting addition pastoral help from England. To get to the point.......Hannah was the step-daughter of Eunis Seely via the marriage of Eunis and the widower, Trustum Soby, not a Seely step-daughter. My 3-gt-grandfather, Gideon Florance III, was co-executor of the Eunis Seely will along with Oliver Davenport and Gideon being the eldest son of Gideon and Deborah (Soby) Florance was the recipient of the majority of Eunis’ estate. Also note that Hannah Sobee (Soby) witnessed the will of Thomas (the founder) Davenport in Phillips Precinct, Dutchess Co., NY on 10 Oct 1746. She married Oliver Davenport on 12 Jul 1747 in the Dutch Church, Fishkill, NY. As for Hannah being a bloodnative of the Delaware Nation, I can’t buy that information at all................... Trustum Sobey (my 5-gt-grandfather, b ca 1705) was a French Huguenot whose family had fled France for Cornwall, England prior to his coming to America. Trustum Soby witnessed several Westchester, NY wills during his life time and on 03 Apr 1750, he was appointed Collector and Constable for the Town of Mamoroneck, Westchester Co., NY. Also very doubtfull that Hannah, like her father, would be signing official documents if she was an Indian in that time and place. I will gladly forward a copy (.jpg) of the Eunis Seely Last Will & Testament, Huguenot Church letter or any other proofs you would like to see. An oddity is that my wife’s 2-gt-grandmother was Sarah Seely and as members of the Seely/Seeley Genealogy Society, we had to get them to make the same correction on Hannah being a Soby, not a Seely. It was also nice that my 3-gt-grandfather inherited part of my wife’s ancestors money..........{:-).

    06/26/2003 07:50:50
    1. Re: [DAVENPORT] US Davenports
    2. Hello- Hannah Soby/Seeley has been a puzzlement to many for quite some time. I heard she was born a Soby, biological daughter of Trustum Soby & Hannah Griffin. She was alledgedly later adopted for unknown reasons by Ebenezer Seeley. I'd also heard she was a full-blooded Delaware Native American. The confusion came about due to the Will of Eunice Seeley. A man was kind enough to send me some info to clear this matter up. It turns out that Hannah was a Soby and never a Seeley at all. Hannah's father Trustum was not of the Delaware Nation at all, but of English descent. With the permission of administration, I'd like to post this information, after I've received permission from my source. Please let me know if it would be alright to post such...Teri

    06/26/2003 07:18:29
    1. [DAVENPORT] US Davenports
    2. In a message dated 6/24/03 3:02:48 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I for one would like to see more participation leading back to England. > I may be a little prejuced since I'm the first Davenport of my family in > the US, but I get the feeling that so much effort is expended finding all > the smallest details of the US Davenport but not much is said of how they > got here. > For me, the Davenports came over 10 or so generations ago. That is alot of people to research locally without trying to get to England too. Here, I can physically do the research and have distant cousins in on the act. Except for my Scotsmen, I am 10-13th generation American on all my lines so I am kept quite busy in the US. Someone talked about books not being accurate. Right now, those who descend from Oliver Davenport are in a discussion about who did he marry? Hannah Soby or Hannah Seeley? More and more it looks like Soby but yet even the DAR papers accept Seeley. Or in other surnames there are bogus lines. Phoney genealogists made up royal ancestors where none exist to please 19th century customers. Valerie

    06/26/2003 06:12:18
    1. [DAVENPORT] Must Read!!! Rev. John Davenport DNA test results in plus more - June 26, 2003
    2. Winifred Auch
    3. Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] >The Rev. John Davenport was perhaps the best known of the several Davenports that arrived in America in the 1600s. His line is well researched and dates back at least to Orme de Auceporte around 1086 in England. Over the years there has much speculation that all or most of these Davenports were in some way related. Now we have more ammunition. The sample from kit # 9415 (Rev. John) has an exact match with the Albemarle Davenport line. It also has a 24/25 match with the Thomas of Dorchester line.<<<<<<<<<< Comment: I have a Rev. Thomas Davenport and his two sons, Rev. John Davenport and Rev. Samuel Davenport. (1700s) in my ancestry - all born in England.. (Un)fortunately I'm not a man so I can't be checked out genetically. <g> Winn

    06/26/2003 05:06:34
    1. [DAVENPORT] Must Read!!! Rev. John Davenport DNA test results in plus more - June 26, 2003
    2. The Rev. John Davenport was perhaps the best known of the several Davenports that arrived in America in the 1600s. His line is well researched and dates back at least to Orme de Auceporte around 1086 in England. Over the years there has much speculation that all or most of these Davenports were in some way related. Now we have more ammunition. The sample from kit # 9415 (Rev. John) has an exact match with the Albemarle Davenport line. It also has a 24/25 match with the Thomas of Dorchester line. This means that it is a pretty good bet that the Albemarle line descended from the Rev. John, or from a very near relative such as a brother, uncle, or cousin. ( I am not necessarily saying all these people existed). The same is true for the Thomas of Dorchester line. But we know Thomas and The Rev. John are in roughly the same generation so their connection would be in England. They could be brothers, cousins, have the same grandfather, etc... For the Albemarles - Our next step is to see if we find a connection between Richard born 1642 and The Rev. John Descendants in the USA. If not - we will need to look for a connection in England. I would also like to see a genealogy of the early Albemarles if someone has one. For the Thomas line - The two participants are from the Thomas > Charles branch. We could use a participant from one of the other sons - Jonathan, Ebenezer, or John. This might help pinpoint what Thomas actually was. ----------------- The second result that came in was kit # 9573. There were rumors in the family they were from the Humphrey line. The family also goes back to New Jersey where Humphrey descendants resided. It turns out those rumors were true. There is a 21/25 match with the other Humphreys. Normally we would not consider this a match. But since the Humphrey results reported so far are so "different" compared to everybody else tested at FTDNA (over 13600 samples) I will call it a match. Humphreys are only close to other Humphreys so far. I moved it from the "unknown" line to Humphrey. I will let the Humphrey researchers work with #9573 to look for a connection. ---------------- That's it for now. There should be more results back in a few days. Bill Davenport [email protected] Davenport Surname DNA Project Administrator

    06/26/2003 03:30:59
    1. RE: [DAVENPORT] HHT in Davenports
    2. Paul Meunier, Jr.
    3. I know of no hereditary diseases stemming from my group of Newberry Davenports either. Danice Meunier Jim is right. The DNA test we use is on the male Y chromosome. A "sex" chromosome. Very few if any diseases are know to be connected to it. The parts that are tested are "junk" pieces - not known to be beneficial or detrimental to the individual. However, I think Denna was more interested in finding other Davenports that might have HHT. Bill Davenport [email protected] ---- In a message dated 6/25/2003 6:30:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I doubt this DNA testing reveals anything about hereditary diseases.. though if someone knew what to look for it might be in there. ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== For instructions on unsubscribing or searching the list archives visit: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/group.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    06/26/2003 02:12:27
    1. [DAVENPORT] Re: DAVENPORT-D Digest V03 #122
    2. pamandrandy
    3. HI, I found Davenports in lawerence co and boyd co and carter greenup co ky. if any one is intrested in the names and locations please email me. thanks pam searching for jeremiah and sarah fine snider davenport. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 08:00:52 -0600 >Content-Type: text/plain > >DAVENPORT-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 122 > >Today's Topics: > #1 [DAVENPORT] DNA Test Results - Jun [[email protected]] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from DAVENPORT-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >______________________________ >

    06/26/2003 01:59:55
    1. Re: [DAVENPORT] Any descendants of Charlotte Hewell and John Pass?
    2. JOHN Peacock
    3. I had the same experience with this URL. [email protected] wrote: > In a message dated 6/24/03 11:09:48 AM Central Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/d1099.htm#P1099 > > There seems to be a problem with this address. It is reported "Not Found On > This Server". > > Jno > > ==== DAVENPORT Mailing List ==== > For instructions on unsubscribing or searching the list archives visit: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nvjack/davnport/group.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    06/26/2003 01:19:24
    1. [DAVENPORT] DNA Test Results - June 25, 2003
    2. As of June 25, 2003 - 22 Y-DNA test kits have gone out with results back from 16. Hopefully we will have the results from five of the six in within the week. Three DNA tests have come in since my last report on June 7, 2003. -------- The ancestry of Kit # 9729 is Humphrey of Barbados (b. abt 1600) > William (1664-1742) > William (1696-1768) > William (1744-1768) > William (1766-1858) > William (1789-?) > James > Claude. We have had one other Humphrey so far - # 8742. They both have identical ancestry up to the sons of James. 8742 goes through William instead of Claude. Participant 9729 took the 25 marker test, while 8742 took the 12 marker. Since they share a common ancestry the results were what was expected. An exact 12 of 12 match. Since this branch of the Humphrey line (Humphrey.....James) is far removed of any other Davenport line tested - we need other Humphrey branches tested to see if this is an isolated incident. -------- Kit #10002 traces his ancestry back to Charles Devenport (1810-1888) - born in Greenville, SC, died in Texas. His results matched 25/25 with #9108 a Newberry. Isaac (d.1749) > Francis > Isaac > William > William. He was a 24/25 match to #9068 Isaac (d.1749) > Francis > William > Francis > Ezekial. So #10002 is most likely a Newberry. His branch is probably descended from one of Isaac's (d.1749) other sons or a Francis son other than William. On the DavenportDNA web page his results were moved from the "unknown" lines to the Newberry. -------- Kit # 9146 is another interesting case. He goes back to John Davenport born in 1815 in Kentucky. There is a possible connection to Abraham and Absolom Davenport of Clark Co. KY. The line eventually moved to Iowa. A Haplogroup is a classification of DNA patterns. The R1b haplogroup is the most common group in western Europe. Most of the Davenports tested so far belong to this group. This participant belongs to Haplogroup I. The Humphreys tested so far were J. If you are from different haplogroups - you do not have a common ancestor - at least in the genealogical time frame. If anyone knows of a descendant of Abraham or Absolom - we could use another test subject. ------- That's it for now. Bill Davenport [email protected] Davenport Surname DNA Project Administrator

    06/25/2003 03:45:50